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(Toronto Star)   Scientists from the Department of Obvious find that loud, obnoxious, rebellious music is preferred by loud, obnoxious, rebellious teenagers. Skrillex immediately returns to studio to produce another "album"   (thestar.com) divider line 237
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2013-01-22 11:51:44 AM

Bedstead Polisher: Ok. I have to ask. There are 12 year olds that listen to jazz???


Those are the Homeschool kids. It's all their parents let them listen to.
 
2013-01-22 11:59:39 AM
Wow, went to sleep, woke up, and this has turned into a pretty cool thread.
 
2013-01-22 12:11:23 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Haliburton Cummings: ok... i have to go and beat some sense into a DJ that lives down the road with a Keytar and a Roland G-707 .....

you all have fun, play safe and remember;

every time you stand up for Shrillex, a puppy gets crushed in the back seat of a Hyundai by an obese raver.

just sayin....

Does using bold make unfunny things funny?


you sound fa....oh nevermind
 
2013-01-22 12:18:38 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Haliburton Cummings: ok... i have to go and beat some sense into a DJ that lives down the road with a Keytar and a Roland G-707 .....

you all have fun, play safe and remember;

every time you stand up for Shrillex, a puppy gets crushed in the back seat of a Hyundai by an obese raver.

just sayin....

Does using bold make unfunny things funny?


actually, when trolling the SHRILLMEX threads, it helps to stand out from the disco wharrrgggbbblle.
it also helps to attract idiotic comments from people so late to the thread, they look daft even posting in the first place.

AND they don't have a glitter button.


howmidoin?
 
2013-01-22 12:29:15 PM

theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:

[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]


If you're going to go Aphex Twin on the thread, f**king do it ALL THE WAY!

www.artrocker.tv2.bp.blogspot.com
i.ytimg.comreinspired.files.wordpress.comwww.romston.com

/Chris Cunningham is a goddamn evil genius
//anybody who disagrees with me should be beaten by a bunch of pint-size kids
 
2013-01-22 12:36:01 PM

blue_2501: theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:

[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]

If you're going to go Aphex Twin on the thread, f**king do it ALL THE WAY!

[www.artrocker.tv image 300x300][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360][reinspired.files.wordpress.com image 320x240][www.romston.com image 640x384]

/Chris Cunningham is a goddamn evil genius
//anybody who disagrees with me should be beaten by a bunch of pint-size kids


yeah the Come To Daddy video has to be one of the best ever made in the medium. Window Licker is pretty amazing as well.
 
2013-01-22 12:49:04 PM

blue_2501: theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:

[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]

If you're going to go Aphex Twin on the thread, f**king do it ALL THE WAY!

[www.artrocker.tv image 300x300][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360][reinspired.files.wordpress.com image 320x240][www.romston.com image 640x384]

/Chris Cunningham is a goddamn evil genius
//anybody who disagrees with me should be beaten by a bunch of pint-size kids


Never heard of Aphex Twin until I saw the Rubber Johnny video. I was hooked.
 
2013-01-22 12:56:33 PM

sleeper2995: My kids oly listen to bands you have never heard of mainly because they haven't been born yet.


Your kids or the bands?
 
2013-01-22 12:59:34 PM

Haliburton Cummings: it helps to stand out


If your comment requires bold text to stand out, it's not worth posting.
 
2013-01-22 01:04:35 PM
I just wanted to throw out

STARfarkER.
 
2013-01-22 01:15:12 PM

blue_2501: theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:

[images.theage.com.au image 420x279]

If you're going to go Aphex Twin on the thread, f**king do it ALL THE WAY!

[www.artrocker.tv image 300x300][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360][reinspired.files.wordpress.com image 320x240][www.romston.com image 640x384]

/Chris Cunningham is a goddamn evil genius
//anybody who disagrees with me should be beaten by a bunch of pint-size kids


All of my yes.  Yes yes yes.
 
2013-01-22 01:17:20 PM

JungleBoogie: Seems kind of reminiscent of the 80's techno music scene:

1) Herbie Hancock - Rockit

2) Newcleus - Jam On It

3) Art of Noise - Paranoimia

But take that, separate and isolate the melodic portions from the discordant portions and voila - dubstep.

Dubstep:

1) Pumped Up Kicks, dubstepped

2) (Note: very loud): Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites, Skrillex

And there seem to be various sub-flavors of dubstep, per the above links.


I've never been much for techno or any of its spin-offs, but I have to admit that one's pretty engaging. Has almost a metal vibe, and being a metalhead that resonates with me.

Truth be told I'd otherwise never pay attention to Skrillex. The name alone makes me thing of some sort of cooking infomercial.

"Just coat your pan in Skrillex and the eggs just slide right off!"

But that track is pretty cool.
 
2013-01-22 01:18:52 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: What's Skrillex? Is that like digital hardcore?


2 pages of comments and no "Sesame Street Aliens Discover Dubstep" ?

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2013-01-22 01:23:07 PM
Skrillex sounds like the Decepticons taking a sh** into a cutlery drawer.

www.seibertron.com
 
2013-01-22 01:24:32 PM

I Like Bread: I don't know if I was ever particularly rebellious... but I like to sit quietly and listen to technical grindcore. It's wonderfully jazzy.


Your post reminded me of the "band" my friend and I had in high school. It was me randomly playing on my guitar (as I had no idea how to play said guitar) and my friend screaming/wailing lyrics. It was terribly awful on purpose, but it was fun. Then he would post it to sites that had samples/demos of people who actually tried making music and just get blasted in the comments. I found a CD we recorded and gave it to his parents. Here is a posting of lyrics he put up, but I couldn't find a link to any of the songs he posted (had a few leads, but they are blocked at work).

Yes, we did name our band "A Moon Beneath The Grindsludge".
 
2013-01-22 02:16:43 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Haliburton Cummings: it helps to stand out

If your comment requires bold text to stand out, it's not worth posting.


well, we can't all stand out in our brilliance like you can can we?

don't you have to be a weight watchers in 26 minutes?
go troll the brony threads k?

ok toughstuff
 
2013-01-22 02:24:44 PM
Here's the thing about Skrillex. His "music" is either so avant garde, it's beyond the most avant garde jazz ever composed...but more likely it's just that...

He has no clue how to compose a song.

I'm serious. His shiat sounds like some high school kid found a sequencer with some samples and just started throwing them together, without any clue about measures, bars, meter, dynamics.

And I'm not just some old man saying get off my lawn. I love dub step. it's just his dub step suck ballz!
 
2013-01-22 02:29:00 PM

Haliburton Cummings: AverageAmericanGuy: If it's too loud, you're too old.

Skrillex isn't for you to sit down and relax to. It's to get your body moving on the dance floor. He's a genius at his craft untalented douche.

ftf everyone


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-22 02:31:01 PM

Haliburton Cummings: well, we can't all stand out in our brilliance like you can can we?


Well, you sure can't.

Haliburton Cummings: don't you have to be a weight watchers in 26 minutes?


Sure don't.
 
2013-01-22 02:36:14 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: I've never been much for techno or any of its spin-offs, but I have to admit that one's pretty engaging. Has almost a metal vibe, and being a metalhead that resonates with me.


Some believe that is one of the main reasons why brostep is so popular in US
/Still doesn't work on people with strong Real Instrument Fetish

Link
 
2013-01-22 02:38:20 PM
Reading this thread has inspired me to listen to Skinny Puppy's "Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate" on the train ride home tonight. Thanks everyone!
 
2013-01-22 02:43:54 PM
 
2013-01-22 03:30:29 PM

ObscureNameHere: Reading this thread has inspired me to listen to Skinny Puppy's "Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate" on the train ride home tonight. Thanks everyone!


wow the last time i heard about Skinny Puppy was 1990
 
2013-01-22 05:44:03 PM

LewDux: Guide to Electronic Sub-Genres and Styles with Youtube samples for quick listening.


Neat. I'll have to check that out when I get home.
 
2013-01-22 06:06:05 PM
Music is music and your tastes are usually context-sensitive. What we perceive as crap is perceived as "awesome" by other people.

/listened to mostly Styx and Journey as a kid, so I really really can't knock this music because mine was cheesy shiat.
 
2013-01-22 06:33:35 PM

JungleBoogie: 1) Herbie Hancock - Rockit
2) Newcleus - Jam On It
3) Art of Noise - Paranoimia
But take that, separate and isolate the melodic portions from the discordant portions and voila - dubstep.
Dubstep:
1) Pumped Up Kicks, dubstepped


And here we come to the BIGGEST problem with dubstep (or, what we're really referring to here is brostep): It's not an actual music genre.

It is a music technique, an audio aesthetic more concerned with texture, timbre, resonance and blistering midrange frequencies than actual harmony, melody and rhythm, but it has no native essence by itself. For this reason, it is inherently parasitical. It can only survive by corrupting existing music. Much like a virus, which cannot survive on its own and must propagate by taking over living cells and rewriting their DNA to produce more viruses, dubstep is a fiercely aggressive sound assault that can only exist by invading existing songs and implanting itself as the song's hook (or in dubstep terminology "the drop"), which comes out sounding like the audio equivalent of a cancerous growth. It doesn't improve the song and in most cases usually kills it.

That's what dubstep really is: It is a literal tumor festering on the living organs of electronic music.

There are no original dubstep tracks. All dubstep is a violent invasion and takeover of an already existing pop hit. Dubstep cannot create, it can only corrupt. It is violent, misogynistic, and beloved by Ketamine addicts. It is, in all seriousness, the most offensive form of electronic music that's ever been created. And I listen to farking power noise.

The fact that it attracts legions of douchebag fratboy "bros" to festivals and raves also doesn't help things.
 
2013-01-22 07:22:33 PM

Cpl.D: "Skillrex"? Not familiar. What instrument does he play?


None. People don't use "instruments" any longer. And music is now broken down into 8,456,432,001 sub categories...
 
2013-01-22 07:25:10 PM
"Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains."

-Buddy Ackerman, "Swimming With Sharks"
 
2013-01-22 08:31:37 PM

Ishkur: JungleBoogie: 1) Herbie Hancock - Rockit
2) Newcleus - Jam On It
3) Art of Noise - Paranoimia
But take that, separate and isolate the melodic portions from the discordant portions and voila - dubstep.
Dubstep:
1) Pumped Up Kicks, dubstepped

And here we come to the BIGGEST problem with dubstep (or, what we're really referring to here is brostep): It's not an actual music genre.

It is a music technique, an audio aesthetic more concerned with texture, timbre, resonance and blistering midrange frequencies than actual harmony, melody and rhythm, but it has no native essence by itself. For this reason, it is inherently parasitical. It can only survive by corrupting existing music. Much like a virus, which cannot survive on its own and must propagate by taking over living cells and rewriting their DNA to produce more viruses, dubstep is a fiercely aggressive sound assault that can only exist by invading existing songs and implanting itself as the song's hook (or in dubstep terminology "the drop"), which comes out sounding like the audio equivalent of a cancerous growth. It doesn't improve the song and in most cases usually kills it.

That's what dubstep really is: It is a literal tumor festering on the living organs of electronic music.

There are no original dubstep tracks. All dubstep is a violent invasion and takeover of an already existing pop hit. Dubstep cannot create, it can only corrupt. It is violent, misogynistic, and beloved by Ketamine addicts. It is, in all seriousness, the most offensive form of electronic music that's ever been created. And I listen to farking power noise.

The fact that it attracts legions of douchebag fratboy "bros" to festivals and raves also doesn't help things.


I don't particularly like dubstep either, but do you also rant at those who use electric guitar, since that's just a copy of the acoustic guitar, whose users you also rant at because that's just a remake of the banjo, whose users you rant at since that's just a 5 string version of the banya?

Hell, do you refuse to listen from anything that's an offshoot of jazz (including by extension any offshoot of rock) because that was created by slaves simply taking West European melodies and "implanting" African rhythm and antiphonal structure?

/around 50% serious
 
2013-01-22 08:35:13 PM

ATRDCI: I don't particularly like dubstep either, but do you also rant at those who use electric guitar, since that's just a copy of the acoustic guitar, whose users you also rant at because that's just a remake of the banjo, whose users you rant at since that's just a 5 string version of the banya?

Hell, do you refuse to listen from anything that's an offshoot of jazz (including by extension any offshoot of rock) because that was created by slaves simply taking West European melodies and "implanting" African rhythm and antiphonal structure?



You need to read the whole thread.

No, seriously.
 
2013-01-22 09:10:23 PM

Ishkur: ATRDCI: I don't particularly like dubstep either, but do you also rant at those who use electric guitar, since that's just a copy of the acoustic guitar, whose users you also rant at because that's just a remake of the banjo, whose users you rant at since that's just a 5 string version of the banya?

Hell, do you refuse to listen from anything that's an offshoot of jazz (including by extension any offshoot of rock) because that was created by slaves simply taking West European melodies and "implanting" African rhythm and antiphonal structure?


You need to read the whole thread.

No, seriously.


I have, and even with "50% serious" slahsie, perhaps my response had a bit too much I suppose bile for a lack of the better term.

For full context, I make no claims to intimately knowing the "electronic scene" or whatever it is you want to call it, and I personally hope that dubstep goes the way of the dodo (as well as the auto-tune for anything other than a rarely used fix-up tool). I just think its a bit unwise to start judging a "genre" as young as dubstep is, when rock is only around 60 years old and jazz is only around 100. Especiallly when you are judging it because it takes songs outside of its genre and puts its own spin on it which pretty much every genre has done.

/I'd say dubstep's highest hope would be to be the cubism of music, but jazz sorta did that back when cubism came out in the first place
//The fact that, as you say, there are no real "dubstep songs" (yet anyway), at least signals that it will not last very long
 
2013-01-22 09:53:53 PM

ATRDCI: For full context, I make no claims to intimately knowing the "electronic scene" or whatever it is you want to call it, and I personally hope that dubstep goes the way of the dodo (as well as the auto-tune for anything other than a rarely used fix-up tool). I just think its a bit unwise to start judging a "genre" as young as dubstep is, when rock is only around 60 years old and jazz is only around 100. Especiallly when you are judging it because it takes songs outside of its genre and puts its own spin on it which pretty much every genre has done.


oh man... this paragraph requests like three or four essays in response. I'm busy and don't have time for another massive post right now, so let me be as brief as possible.

- Technology and the pace of life has accelerated everything such that any movement or scene that might've played out organically over several years a century ago can today move through its typical phases of growth, acceptance, commercial viability, intellectual progression, etc. in a matter of weeks. 6 months is a very long time in the electronic music community and things can turn on a dime. Increased communications, technology, the speed at which the music can be made, produced, performed, and disseminated to everybody is unparalleled.

This is why it's improper to compare today's movements to that of Jazz and Rock. They came about at a time where it would have taken several years to set up labels, write/record/produce music, perform it in front of audiences and spread the media around for home use. Today, this process can be accomplished in days. So while you might think its disingenuous to compare a 7 year old genre to a 60 year old genre, keep in mind that in those 7 years that genre has released more music than in that 60 year old genre's first 30 years of existence and that music has reached more ears faster and more efficiently than any previous music or fad. And almost all without the benefit of commercial media.

It took the Beatles two years of relentless writing, performing, playing and touring to make it big with Please Please Me. They had an estimated 40 million fans by that point. Kpop sensation Psy accumulated that many in a single day.

Everything is sped up now, which means not only can movements arrive in a flash, but they can disappear in a flash too. In electronic music's case, the general rule of thumb is that a single genre (with its own self-contained and self-derived code of esthetics and style) tends to have a shelf-life of about 3-5 years tops (although this duration is shrinking). At that point, it will have either evolved into a subgenre or split into other genres, or get supplanted by another thing entirely.

I will tell you one thing, though: An interesting thing about musical evolution is that, unlike biological evolution, no genre ever goes extinct. There is always someone somewhere still making the stuff (and if you disagree, head down to New Orleans and check out the still vibrant Zydeco community). And if a genre does go extinct, it will be resurrected (lazarus taxonomies are abundant in electronic music).

- Regarding "taking other music and putting its own spin on it", I'm not talking about covers/remixes/mashup/sampling (a genre should not subsist solely on a diet of those things anyway). Dubstep doesn't have any actual full, original songs -- it simply injects itself into existing songs, which are played as is (or sped up/transposed), then instead of the chorus, you get a 64th slice of the last bar looping and then "the drop". For like a minute. And then the song comes back. That's dubstep -- that middle "drop" part right there. It's not the full song, it's just that little bridge. Like I said, it can't exist by itself, it can only exist inside other songs. Like a virus.

(someone will probably come up with exceptions, but seriously -- that's not indicative of the genre now, is it?)


Dammit, you just made me write another essay. Stop it.
 
2013-01-23 02:09:58 AM

Ishkur:
oh man... this paragraph requests like three or four essays in response. I'm busy and don't have time for another massive post right now, so let me be as brief as possible...

...That's dubstep -- that middle "drop" part right there. It's not the full song, it's just that little bridge. Like I said, it can't exist by itself, it can only exist inside other songs. Like a virus.


Okay.. if you admit the "guitar" is a virus, too, i'm okay with that.
 
2013-01-23 05:26:43 AM

LookForTheArrow: Okay.. if you admit the "guitar" is a virus, too, i'm okay with that.


no.
 
2013-01-23 08:50:33 AM

LookForTheArrow: Ishkur:
oh man... this paragraph requests like three or four essays in response. I'm busy and don't have time for another massive post right now, so let me be as brief as possible...

...That's dubstep -- that middle "drop" part right there. It's not the full song, it's just that little bridge. Like I said, it can't exist by itself, it can only exist inside other songs. Like a virus.

Okay.. if you admit the "guitar" is a virus, too, i'm okay with that.


No, *this* is a Virus:
medias.audiofanzine.com
 
2013-01-23 12:59:30 PM

Ishkur: Dammit, you just made me write another essay.


Well, hold on a minute, I don't recall anyone really had a gun to your head, young man. ;-P
 
2013-01-24 03:25:51 AM
Well Ishkur you just got kittay to fave this whole thread.
 
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