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2013-01-21 06:49:17 PM  
I think I'll wait to see what Armond White has to say.
 
2013-01-21 07:28:43 PM  
RottenTomatoes jumped the shark a long while ago for new releases. They are not to be trusted any more.
 
2013-01-21 07:30:04 PM  
The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.
 
2013-01-21 07:40:52 PM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


It made money and critics liked it. Of course Fark hates it.

Temple of the Doom is the jump sharking your looking for.
 
2013-01-21 07:43:44 PM  
I *liked* Temple of Doom.

:/
 
2013-01-21 07:47:27 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.

It made money and critics liked it. Of course Fark hates it.

Temple of the Doom is the jump sharking your looking for.


Temple of Doom had a distinct lack of Shia the beef.
 
2013-01-21 07:51:04 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I *liked* Temple of Doom.

:/


As did I. Regrettably, all signs point to The Last Stand being more "Crystal Skull"-ish in quality.
 
2013-01-21 07:54:20 PM  

Apos: As did I. Regrettably, all signs point to The Last Stand being more "Crystal Skull"-ish in quality.


I actually enjoyed The Last Stand, myself.

Admittedly, it's nowhere near as good as most of Arnold's classics, but it did the trick. One could do a lot worse than that, I would think.
 
2013-01-21 07:59:01 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: As did I. Regrettably, all signs point to The Last Stand being more "Crystal Skull"-ish in quality.

I actually enjoyed The Last Stand, myself.

Admittedly, it's nowhere near as good as most of Arnold's classics, but it did the trick. One could do a lot worse than that, I would think.


I see. And I presume the awesomeness of Luis Guzman negating the inanity of Knoxville is part of the reason it worked for you?
 
2013-01-21 08:00:31 PM  

Apos: I see. And I presume the awesomeness of Luis Guzman negating the inanity of Knoxville is part of the reason it worked for you?


Knoxville didn't really faze me, actually.

And Luis Guzman more than brought his Luis Guzman-ness to the movie.

I wish they did more stuff to involve sub-villain Peter Stormaire, but so it goes.
 
2013-01-21 08:00:55 PM  
I don't know if the movie is any good but I'm hoping Arnold disappears forever after ruining California.
 
2013-01-21 08:04:54 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: I see. And I presume the awesomeness of Luis Guzman negating the inanity of Knoxville is part of the reason it worked for you?

Knoxville didn't really faze me, actually.

And Luis Guzman more than brought his Luis Guzman-ness to the movie.

I wish they did more stuff to involve sub-villain Peter Stormaire, but so it goes.


Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.
 
2013-01-21 08:10:48 PM  
Saw it last night, it sucked and not in a cheesy 80's flick kind of way.
 
2013-01-21 08:23:12 PM  

Tumbleweed Garden: I don't know if the movie is any good but I'm hoping Arnold disappears forever after ruining California.


I don't think California is Arnold's fault.

Rather, California is California's fault.
 
2013-01-21 08:40:03 PM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


It's not the worst thing ever.  There are movies that I've literally given up on before finishing them.  I've seen Crystal Skull a few times, and while it's far from perfect it's not impossible to get some enjoyment out of it, as long as you are willing to accept that there are things in the other movies that are just as far-fetched (well, other than the fridge, that's definitely stupid).

Besides, as I've avoided the Transformers movies after the 1st one, and the only other experience I can think of of Shia is him getting killed in  Constantine, he just doesn't get under my skin like he does most everyone else.
 
2013-01-21 08:40:41 PM  

Apos: I wish they did more stuff to involve sub-villain Peter Stormaire, but so it goes.

Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.


Agreed. He makes any movie better.
 
2013-01-21 08:42:14 PM  
And I see that in true RT fashion it has a fairly high "liked it" rating. I think the liked it rating has a good 20% curve since you're hard pressed to find movies that have a low "liked it" percentage.

I guess it's the result of people like my friend that hasn't seen a movie they didn't like. Still I would have thought that those guys would be more than balanced out by the people that haven't seen a movie they liked.
 
2013-01-21 08:59:54 PM  
Saw it the other day. Wasn't bad in my opinion. Not great mind you but not bad. Decent popcorn flick. My opinion (and some spoilers as well) was that Peter Stormaire should have been the main villian instead of a sub villian. I agree he should have been in that movie more either way. Luis Guzman was only in the movie during the beginning/middle but then just disappears pretty much near the end. Eduardo Noriega character was completely useless and did nothing but drive a car all movie. Arnold was Arnold. Not much more to say about that. I enjoyed Knoxville's character and it was just the right amount of Knoxville in the movie. I always do enjoy Forest Whitaker characters. I just enjoy him as an actor for some reason. That's my opinion (with limited spoilers as best I could).
 
2013-01-21 09:00:35 PM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


was better than temple of doom
 
2013-01-21 09:12:16 PM  

5 star chef of tv dinners: I enjoyed Knoxville's character and it was just the right amount of Knoxville in the movie.


WTF are you talking about? Knoxville was the most annoying character I've seen in a movie. I bet you also liked the whole chopping down the telephone pole bit, didn't you?
 
2013-01-21 09:15:00 PM  

Apos: Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.


He and Tilda Swinton elevated Constantine to a level of pretty-goodness it wouldn't have had relying just on Keanu and Shia Beef.
 
2013-01-21 09:31:09 PM  

Apos: I presume the awesomeness of Luis Guzman negating the inanity of Knoxville is part of the reason it worked for you?


Sitting two seats away from him worked for me at the premier.
 
2013-01-21 09:39:44 PM  

theorellior: Apos: Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.

He and Tilda Swinton elevated Constantine to a level of pretty-goodness it wouldn't have had relying just on Keanu and Shia Beef.


This. I still watch Constantine, just for the last 15 minutes.
 
2013-01-21 09:44:47 PM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


Depends whether it gets graded on a Spielberg curve or if it gets graded against all movies. Obviously, it's the Godfather III of Spielberg adventure films. Against all movies, it's a legitimate, well-intentioned, slickly crafted encore performance by the cast and crew from one of the greatest adventure movies ever made. It's not their best work but it has it's moments and if nothing else people are entertained by arguing about it, while other actually bad films are forgotten completely.
 
2013-01-21 09:46:16 PM  

FormlessOne: theorellior: Apos: Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.

He and Tilda Swinton elevated Constantine to a level of pretty-goodness it wouldn't have had relying just on Keanu and Shia Beef.

This. I still watch Constantine, just for the last 15 minutes.


Shia The Beef dies. I'd say that's pretty much worth any price of admission.
 
2013-01-21 10:00:49 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: 5 star chef of tv dinners: I enjoyed Knoxville's character and it was just the right amount of Knoxville in the movie.

WTF are you talking about? Knoxville was the most annoying character I've seen in a movie. I bet you also liked the whole chopping down the telephone pole bit, didn't you?


It was meh.  I try not to think to much in these types of movies.  I think he played the roll he was suppose to rather well.  Knoxville isn't a very good actor and won't win anything (other then a razzie) but he played his part.  He's only in the movie for like 30 minutes total.
 
2013-01-21 10:31:37 PM  
It wasn't the first time I saw Luis Guzman, but I'll always remember him for his role in The Cowboy Way.
Please don't judge me...much.
 
2013-01-21 10:58:03 PM  
Why do you guys hate him so much?
 
2013-01-21 11:14:05 PM  

moothemagiccow: cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.

was better than temple of doom



You keep your whoremouth shut when men are talking, doll.
 
2013-01-21 11:19:15 PM  
Just got back from seeing it. It was awesome because of two words: german suplex.
 
2013-01-21 11:29:26 PM  
After seeing Genesis Rodriguez on Ferguson the other night, I feel strangely drawn to this film.
 
2013-01-21 11:50:50 PM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


Fark you, you whiners.
It was better than the slapstick romp that was Last Crusade.

/not a troll
//deal with it
 
2013-01-22 12:02:42 AM  

bhcompy: FormlessOne: theorellior: Apos: Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.

He and Tilda Swinton elevated Constantine to a level of pretty-goodness it wouldn't have had relying just on Keanu and Shia Beef.

This. I still watch Constantine, just for the last 15 minutes.

Shia The Beef dies. I'd say that's pretty much worth any price of admission.


He's supernaturally dribbled to death. Have to agree with you on that.
 
2013-01-22 12:05:22 AM  

Zombie DJ: cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.

Fark you, you whiners.
It was better than the slapstick romp that was Last Crusade.

/not a troll
//deal with it


Please. "Indiana Jones and the Atomic Refrigerator" was a mess of a film, compared with "Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail." The latter had Sean Connery, a bit more plot, and some fun. The former had Shia The Beef (I do love that... hell of a last name, there...), an incredulous plot, and the aforementioned "atomic refrigerator", not to mention that ridiculous sword-fight and the "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS" impersonator.
 
2013-01-22 12:30:09 AM  

jbtilley: And I see that in true RT fashion it has a fairly high "liked it" rating. I think the liked it rating has a good 20% curve since you're hard pressed to find movies that have a low "liked it" percentage.

I guess it's the result of people like my friend that hasn't seen a movie they didn't like. Still I would have thought that those guys would be more than balanced out by the people that haven't seen a movie they liked.


The audience reviews have been shiat for a while, mainly because people will give a "liked it" rating to movies before they are even released. It's a practice that became painfully obvious during Atlas Shrugged's release, and continues to movies like "Last Stand" and "A Haunted House." If you read them, some of the audience reviews are straight up trolling.

Reminds me of back when studios used to make up fake critic quotes and use them in their TV spots.
 
2013-01-22 12:36:42 AM  
When people claim films like this Arnold film is bad, they have no idea what a bad film really is. You wanna see a bad film? Go rent Human Centipede 2: Second Sequence. That really is one of the worst films you can watch, even for fans of the original.
 
2013-01-22 12:45:38 AM  
Arnold can EABOD and DIAF already.
 
2013-01-22 01:25:28 AM  

FormlessOne: Zombie DJ: cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.

Fark you, you whiners.
It was better than the slapstick romp that was Last Crusade.

/not a troll
//deal with it

Please. "Indiana Jones and the Atomic Refrigerator" was a mess of a film, compared with "Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail." The latter had Sean Connery, a bit more plot, and some fun. The former had Shia The Beef (I do love that... hell of a last name, there...), an incredulous plot, and the aforementioned "atomic refrigerator", not to mention that ridiculous sword-fight and the "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS" impersonator.


No. It sucked, Jr.
 
2013-01-22 01:29:39 AM  

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Arnold can EABOD and DIAF already.


Must be a Kennedy...
 
2013-01-22 02:59:27 AM  
I like the review on the side bar that says 'The Last Stand' is the 'St. Anger' of Schwarzenegger movies. Ouch.

I'll probably still see it but I'll wait until it's on video.

/Re-watched Temple Of Doom recently. Not nearly as good as I remembered.
 
2013-01-22 03:16:12 AM  

cefm: The article also mentions that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a 78% fresh rating from critics??? Are you farking kidding me? That abortion of a film should never have been made. Yet Richard Roeper gave it a thumbs up......wow.


It's because critics saw it as an "Indiana Jones" film. Fun but nothing to be taken seriously.

Raiders is the best followed by Last Crusade.  Doom and Skull were decent Indy Flicks, but contain elements I didn't care for.
 
2013-01-22 04:15:26 AM  

skinink: When people claim films like this Arnold film is bad, they have no idea what a bad film really is. You wanna see a bad film? Go rent Human Centipede 2: Second Sequence. That really is one of the worst films you can watch, even for fans of the original.


I enjoyed it. C'mon, it was funny!
 
2013-01-22 04:47:30 AM  
I've found that my enjoyment of an Arnold movie is directly proportional to the amount of dialogue he is given.

Terminator 1 and 2.:Arnold barely spoke, save for a few one liners. Excellent movies.

Conan the Barbarian: He didn't speak for like the first 20 minutes. Great movie.

The Running Man and Total Recall: Marginally more dialogue for Arnold to learn. Enjoyable, but not as good as they could have been.

Raw Deal and Eraser: The director and writer tried to get him to carry the plot. Bad mistake. Can't get through those movies without subtitles.

Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All The Way: He not only had to speak a lot, he had to emote. Yeesh.
 
2013-01-22 05:15:58 AM  
You're drunk, Arnold. Go home.
 
2013-01-22 05:44:36 AM  

stoli n coke: I've found that my enjoyment of an Arnold movie is directly proportional to the amount of dialogue he is given.
Terminator 1 and 2.:Arnold barely spoke, save for a few one liners. Excellent movies.
Conan the Barbarian: He didn't speak for like the first 20 minutes. Great movie.
The Running Man and Total Recall: Marginally more dialogue for Arnold to learn. Enjoyable, but not as good as they could have been.
Raw Deal and Eraser: The director and writer tried to get him to carry the plot. Bad mistake. Can't get through those movies without subtitles.
Kindergarten Cop and Jingle All The Way: He not only had to speak a lot, he had to emote. Yeesh.


What about Commando? That movie is ALL ABOUT Arnold's one-liners. And Predator -- he's got some good zingers there too. True Lies is a great movie specifically because of the interplay between him and Tom Arnold (and Bill Paxton... and Jamie Lee Curtis... and hell, even Tia Carrere). Doesn't speak much in Red Heat -- decent flick. Red Sonja...eugh.

Your theory is partly true, but there are exceptions.
 
2013-01-22 06:45:36 AM  
so how bad is arnold getting around in the movie? are most of his shots not moving, just standing, etc?
 
2013-01-22 07:34:51 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: 5 star chef of tv dinners: I enjoyed Knoxville's character and it was just the right amount of Knoxville in the movie.

WTF are you talking about? Knoxville was the most annoying character I've seen in a movie. I bet you also liked the whole chopping down the telephone pole bit, didn't you?


Im pretty sure this is literally the exact same character he played in Walking Tall.
 
2013-01-22 07:50:58 AM  

theorellior: Apos: Stormare's in the movie? Don't recall even seeing him in the trailer(s). Dude deserves FAR more recognition than he's received thus far. Stellar actor.

He and Tilda Swinton elevated Constantine to a level of pretty-goodness it wouldn't have had relying just on Keanu and Shia Beef.


Constantine would have been a far better movie if it hadn't been called "Constantine." I couldn't get over just how badly they farked up "Hellblazer" to make that movie.

That said, the movie is very watchable, and I agree with you on Swinton and Stormare...they steal the movie.
 
2013-01-22 08:23:54 AM  
I'm pissed off I didn't get to see this over the weekend.

I wanted to go, but my girlfriend sucks.

Great. I'll be out of town in the coming weekend, and the damn movie will probably be pulled from theaters after that.
 
2013-01-22 08:28:35 AM  

doczoidberg: my girlfriend sucks.


go on...
 
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