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(Daily Mail)   'I have no use for money': Bill Gates plans to use his billions to eradicate polio   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-01-21 01:49:34 PM  
Damnit Bill, people with money are supposed to be evil.  You're ruining it for all of the other billionaires.
 
2013-01-21 01:52:16 PM  
Well I sure as hell do

/toss a little down here
 
2013-01-21 01:57:48 PM  
That's very sweet of him.
 
2013-01-21 02:27:39 PM  
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2013-01-21 02:41:04 PM  
Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?
 
2013-01-21 02:42:17 PM  
Although I can find headlines of Gates saying "I have no use for money", none of the related articles actually contain a quote of him saying that.

In any case, eradicating polio seems like a very good use for money.
 
2013-01-21 02:52:47 PM  

unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?


It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.
 
2013-01-21 02:57:46 PM  

BillCo: Damnit Bill, people with money are supposed to be evil.  You're ruining it for all of the other billionaires.


Thankfully he and Buffett might be making some a bit uncomfortable.
 
2013-01-21 03:01:55 PM  
Only rich people say things like "money isn't important to me."
 
2013-01-21 03:02:07 PM  
Maybe he could buy out Microsoft and turn it around. Seems that he'd be good at something like that.
 
2013-01-21 03:02:55 PM  
again?
 
2013-01-21 03:03:22 PM  
Or he could make sure there's clinical trials of the DRACO antiviral. Either way, it's a hell of a tax right off.
 
2013-01-21 03:03:29 PM  
Well what the hell is Ralph Lauren supposed to do now, just pack it in and give up?
 
2013-01-21 03:03:51 PM  
My wallet has polio, give it money.
 
2013-01-21 03:04:08 PM  
No, he's not going to give it all to you. He's not stupid.
 
2013-01-21 03:04:25 PM  
Second time I've seen this without the headline quote.

He said:
Money has no utility to me beyond a certain point.

Not that he has no use for money.
 
2013-01-21 03:05:19 PM  
even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.
 
2013-01-21 03:05:46 PM  

edmo: Only rich people say things like "money isn't important to me."


Great headline misquote by both subby and the D fail. What he said was:

"Money has no utility to me beyond a certain point. Its utility is entirely in building an organization and getting the resources out to the poorest in the world."

Evil prick.
 
gja
2013-01-21 03:05:47 PM  
I find it not a little amusing that his father was such an unbearable hard-ass to him when he was younger and dropped out of college.
Bill is doing more good than imaginable. Polio is an insidious disease. We licked it here, it would be wonderful to list it as 'extinct'.
 
2013-01-21 03:07:04 PM  

BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.



Sadly, Bill isn't exactly the right guy to combat that sort of proud ignorance. "Outing" the source of the funding as an American Billionaire will be a great propaganda tool for those barbarians.
 
2013-01-21 03:07:12 PM  

BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.


I've always wondering why any cultish leader makes statements like these and how they actually go about justifying such statements? Is it simply to justify/cement their own power of the individuals who take them seriously? Are the clerics themselves really that ignorant? Seems to me that anyone who reads one book will read another and another and really not be all that foolish of a person. Do they not see the evidence of the positive effects vaccines have had on human civilization since their inception? Mostly I'm just curious how ignorance is able to flourish on any level.
 
2013-01-21 03:07:32 PM  

dionysusaur: even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.


Waiting for us to enter...waiting to enter us. Until next time, try to enjoy the daylight.
 
2013-01-21 03:07:50 PM  
Say what you want about his products. The man has done more good with his money than most
 
2013-01-21 03:08:08 PM  
Had polio when I was four, Bill. I'll send you my account number.
 
2013-01-21 03:08:23 PM  
Anyone know what Steve Jobs did with his money?
 
2013-01-21 03:08:31 PM  
It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

There was a polio outbreak in Minnesota in 2005 spread among unvaccinated Amish. Link
 
2013-01-21 03:08:40 PM  
 
2013-01-21 03:08:40 PM  
Rich guy avoiding inheritance taxes.
 
2013-01-21 03:08:43 PM  

unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?


That's like saying, "Aren't the rats gone already? I mean besides the one male and two females left on the island that we can't get rid of, aren't the rats completely gone?"

It's not gone until it's gone. This is why anti-vax nitwits are ruining things for everybody.
 
2013-01-21 03:09:06 PM  
'I have no use for money': Bill Gates plans to use his billions to eradicate polio

Fo' real, g. I'd be more impressed if this asshat stopped being a do-gooder and fix every that is wrong with Win 8. 'Cause it sucks!!!
 
2013-01-21 03:09:06 PM  
So he's giving his money to strippers?
 
2013-01-21 03:09:21 PM  
Well, polio is bad, but I read somewhere that it would be actually possible to get rid of mosquito completely and forever, if enough money is spent. Why not do that, it will kill several birds with one stone including several fatal diseases.
 
2013-01-21 03:09:45 PM  
The top 5% pay for 70% of the vaxes
 
2013-01-21 03:10:00 PM  

unlikely: I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?


Let's not forget we used a fake vaccination program to find Bin Laden. Certain people might have very real reasons to avoid vaccinations in that part of the world. And while we may not like those people, they're just as capable of spreading polio as anyone else.
 
2013-01-21 03:10:14 PM  
My uncle had polio.
He got over it.
But it took a hell of a lot of work.
 
2013-01-21 03:10:18 PM  
So he wants to fill the world with retarded children? What a monster!
 
2013-01-21 03:10:29 PM  

orbister: Anyone know what Steve Jobs did with his money?


Built an ugly boat then died.
 
2013-01-21 03:10:35 PM  

gja: Polio is an insidious disease. We licked it here,


You know, it probably wouldn't spread as fast if people quit licking polio.
 
2013-01-21 03:11:31 PM  

unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?


Go to India.
 
2013-01-21 03:11:52 PM  
Why polio? Why not something like Jock Itch?
 
2013-01-21 03:12:04 PM  

edmo: Only rich people say things like "money isn't important to me."


Money is rather important to me, but that's because I don't have a lot of it. I'd dare I need it to survive
 
2013-01-21 03:12:15 PM  

orbister: Anyone know what Steve Jobs did with his money?


Those who tell don't know and those know won't tell.
 
2013-01-21 03:12:38 PM  
What about Water Polio? That actually looked like a lot of fun.
 
gja
2013-01-21 03:13:14 PM  

jbuist: gja: Polio is an insidious disease. We licked it here,

You know, it probably wouldn't spread as fast if people quit licking polio.


I said POLIO, not CORNHOLIO....
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2013-01-21 03:13:15 PM  

orbister: Anyone know what Steve Jobs did with his money?


Hire lawyers to sue companies?

/no clue
 
2013-01-21 03:13:57 PM  
Your move, Steve Jobs. Oh, nvm.
/guess Jobs should've put some money into eradicating something... maybe pancreatic cancer
 
2013-01-21 03:14:15 PM  

BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.


India was polio-free in 2012. Pakistan is where the hot spot is in Asia :(
 
2013-01-21 03:14:45 PM  
I would rather Bill do something like this instead of him "paying a little bit more" and sending it down the rat hole. I am sure the overhead the Gates Foundation has is very small compared to the Government's.
 
2013-01-21 03:15:02 PM  
The great thing about finishing polio is that we'll have resources to get going on malaria and measles.'

There's some forward thinking for ya.
 
2013-01-21 03:15:04 PM  
I don't like Microsoft. I doubt very much if I would like Mr. Gates if I were to meet him.

But credit where it's due. Eradicating polio is a worthy cause, so kudos to him (and, presumably, Melinda).
 
2013-01-21 03:16:27 PM  

unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?


Polio is still hanging on in a Africa and Asia but cases are under 1 per 100,000 in most of the rest of the world. It is still more widely spread than I thought it was, with occasional cases in the developed world (mostly in immigrants, I imagine). You're unlikely to contract it unless you go to Africa or maybe the low-rent bits of Asia. All it needs is a little more push world-wide to finish the job.

I remember a fairly young guy with polio when I was a kid, probably the last case in the village or the county even. If it didn't kill or cripple you for life, it caused deformation or atrophy of the legs. This guy had really short bandy legs and walked with a chimp-like waddle--and he was one of the lucky ones--many polio victims could not walk at all without crutches or died of the disease.

It will take some effort to eliminate it. In Afghanistan, the country with the most polio cases, it exceeds 10 per 100,000. Most polio infections don't do serious harm, but when it gets into your blood it can be nasty.

According to Wikipedia ("Poliomyelitis eradication") there were 716 cases in 16 countries in 2011.
 
2013-01-21 03:16:42 PM  
Good, he's done a lot of good stuff with all that cash. But the cynic in me wonders if a sudden and significant drop in child mortality would lead to food availability problems. Still beats living with a paralyzing nerve disease though.

orbister: Anyone know what Steve Jobs did with his money?


Artisanal turtlenecks.
 
2013-01-21 03:16:44 PM  

Lumpmoose: BillCo: Damnit Bill, people with money are supposed to be evil.  You're ruining it for all of the other billionaires.

Thankfully he and Buffett might be making some a bit uncomfortable.


People who make billions tend to be incredibly competitive. The type of people who don't sit back and do nothing when someone else is outdoing them.

Case in point: this one philanthropist who had signed the pledge was going to donate a huge sum to her alma mater. As they were finalizing it all, someone happened to mention that it would be the second biggest donation ever to such a school. So at the press conference she makes the surprise announcement that she's doubling the donation so as not to be second best.
 
2013-01-21 03:17:00 PM  

SultanofSchwing: What about Water Polio? That actually looked like a lot of fun.


Plus you get to wear those skimpy speedos and show off your package.
 
2013-01-21 03:17:58 PM  

dionysusaur: even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.


The polio virus cannot survive more than a few weeks at room temperature outside of a human body. It will not be waiting if there is no one it can transmit itself to.

In a few decades we may be able to stop polio vaccinations.
 
2013-01-21 03:18:02 PM  

DubtodaIll: BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.

I've always wondering why any cultish leader makes statements like these and how they actually go about justifying such statements? Is it simply to justify/cement their own power of the individuals who take them seriously? Are the clerics themselves really that ignorant? Seems to me that anyone who reads one book will read another and another and really not be all that foolish of a person. Do they not see the evidence of the positive effects vaccines have had on human civilization since their inception? Mostly I'm just curious how ignorance is able to flourish on any level.


I could fill your eyes with details of the social and psychological elements that contribute to such occurrences, but I'll simply it and just state that stupid is easy to accomplish, intelligence is not. Primates naturally seek easy things.
 
2013-01-21 03:18:23 PM  

dionysusaur: even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.


Like smallpox?
 
2013-01-21 03:19:58 PM  

DubtodaIll: BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.

I've always wondering why any cultish leader makes statements like these and how they actually go about justifying such statements? Is it simply to justify/cement their own power of the individuals who take them seriously? Are the clerics themselves really that ignorant? Seems to me that anyone who reads one book will read another and another and really not be all that foolish of a person. Do they not see the evidence of the positive effects vaccines have had on human civilization since their inception? Mostly I'm just curious how ignorance is able to flourish on any level.


Really? We have literate, seemingly intelligent people right here in the states that let a bimbo convince them not to vaccinate their children and you can't imagine how frightened, powerless and uneducated people in developing nations would fall for this claptrap?

Among the general populace, there are natural leaders who think, make decisions, and lead. Most people are followers, though, and will take whatever their chosen leader says as gospel. I think it's instinctive and probably some ancient survival adaptation.
 
2013-01-21 03:20:35 PM  

mayIFark: Well, polio is bad, but I read somewhere that it would be actually possible to get rid of mosquito completely and forever, if enough money is spent. Why not do that, it will kill several birds with one stone including several fatal diseases.


Funny you mention that: The foundation is also supporting several methods of eradicating malaria, including eliminating the particular mosquito that carries it.
 
2013-01-21 03:20:50 PM  

hobberwickey: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

Go to India.


India isn't the example you're looking for. No cases at all in 2012.
 
2013-01-21 03:22:28 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: I don't like Microsoft. I doubt very much if I would like Mr. Gates if I were to meet him.

But credit where it's due. Eradicating polio is a worthy cause, so kudos to him (and, presumably, Melinda).


As a developer I love Microsoft. One central source of widely accepted tools that work as advertised. They'll probably even take over the smart phone market just because they are the only software manufacturer that pays attention to what the people that actually develop software need.
 
2013-01-21 03:22:33 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Countries with polio. Red: present, green: carried from outside, gray: absent.
 
2013-01-21 03:28:22 PM  

DubtodaIll: BronyMedic: unlikely: Isn't polio all but gone already? I mean besides a few anti-vax holdouts like ultra-religio-pakistan, isn't it completely gone?

It's making a huge comeback in India and Nigeria, in particular, because of religious anti-vax nonsense and anti-west fear mongerig.

Clerics and community leaders are ACTUALLY telling these people that vaccines are a western plot to sterilize them and give them AIDS.

I've always wondering why any cultish leader makes statements like these and how they actually go about justifying such statements? Is it simply to justify/cement their own power of the individuals who take them seriously? Are the clerics themselves really that ignorant? Seems to me that anyone who reads one book will read another and another and really not be all that foolish of a person. Do they not see the evidence of the positive effects vaccines have had on human civilization since their inception? Mostly I'm just curious how ignorance is able to flourish on any level.


This book The Righteous Mind Link, suggests answers to those Q's
 
gja
2013-01-21 03:29:07 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: I don't like Microsoft. I doubt very much if I would like Mr. Gates if I were to meet him.

But credit where it's due. Eradicating polio is a worthy cause, so kudos to him (and, presumably, Melinda).


You might, if you ever had the chance, be very surprised.
I was when I met him. I will confess that it was many years back when they were just starting up the Windows Advanced Server NT roadshows and he still tagged along to some of the larger metro shows. Stood and chatted with him about some of the engineering precepts that help form some of the core APIs. He is very smart, and very personable when he is in his 'comfort zone' as he was among all of us geeks present at the event.

I cannot think of a better legacy than to be remembered as someone who helped rid the world of a disease.
 
2013-01-21 03:42:57 PM  
Polio isn't like smallpox; many animals can carry it, so it's much harder to eradicate. The Gates Foundation works on a lot of other great projects too. Interestingly, his motivation was Andrew Carnegie. Like Gates, many people disliked Carnegie in business, but the guy was an awesome philanthropist. Gates has also inspired many of his peers (like Buffett) to donate heavily.
 
2013-01-21 03:57:58 PM  

edmo: Only rich people say things like "money isn't important to me."


I'm not rich and money isn't very important to me. There's more to life than things.
 
gja
2013-01-21 04:10:52 PM  

Honest Bender: edmo: Only rich people say things like "money isn't important to me."

I'm not rich and money isn't very important to me. There's more to life than things.


"The best thing in life isn't things".

Don't know the author, couldn't agree more though.
 
2013-01-21 04:15:37 PM  

dionysusaur: even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.


Wrong
 
2013-01-21 05:27:59 PM  

roadmarks: dionysusaur: even with 100% vax rates, the virus is still out there, waiting. no pity, no remorse, it won't stop. ever.

The polio virus cannot survive more than a few weeks at room temperature outside of a human body. It will not be waiting if there is no one it can transmit itself to.

In a few decades we may be able to stop polio vaccinations.


So, only humans (or hominines)? Before that there was _no_ poliovirus? There's no reservoir out there in nature like for Ebola or Marburg? As far as that goes, does the vax let your body kill it altogether, or keep it from busting out?

It may not be virulent in non-human populations, but still transmissible - until proven otherwise, this is the way we should roll.
 
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