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(The Sunday Times (UK))   Antarctica has finally been conquered by the car, with scientists and commercial adventure firms creating three new "road" routes from the coast to the South Pole   (thesundaytimes.co.uk) divider line 46
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2013-01-21 12:24:13 PM
Oh wow.
 
2013-01-21 01:11:24 PM
Where do they stop for gas?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-21 01:11:46 PM
Crevasses. Very dangerous. You go first.
 
2013-01-21 01:13:45 PM
I'm sure the entire article was fascinating
 
2013-01-21 01:58:15 PM
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We're not overly impressed.
 
2013-01-21 02:00:56 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?


Just make sure you go before you leave
 
2013-01-21 02:30:26 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?


They're going to strategically place Chevron/McDonald's along the routes.
 
2013-01-21 02:33:19 PM
so, ice road truckers are actually going to be driving on ice again ?
 
2013-01-21 02:36:26 PM
FTA:  So far about 10 convoys of modified 4x4 vehicles have made the trip, their occupants enjoying heated cabins, electric windows and reclining seats as they journey to the remotest place in the world.

when will lowly peons like us see luxurious appointments such as "heated cabins" and "electric windows?" to say nothing of "reclining seats!!!"
 
2013-01-21 02:49:48 PM

netizencain: [img826.imageshack.us image 400x261]
We're not overly impressed.


I'm glad we got this out of the way.
 
2013-01-21 02:52:00 PM
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Here's an interior shot of the "modified" vehicle.
 
2013-01-21 02:53:05 PM
What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.
 
2013-01-21 02:55:14 PM

Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.


Unicorn Blood. Low freezing point, but it's hell on the gaskets.
 
2013-01-21 02:56:04 PM

Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.


Who needs antifreeze when you don't turn off the engine?
 
2013-01-21 02:59:08 PM

Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.


70/30 antifreeze/water ratio protects down to -72F.

I do not believe many expeditions travel in the winter down there, so winter temps are not a concern unless for storage.
 
2013-01-21 02:59:26 PM
While that was maybe one of the less annoying registration requests, I'm not going to register to read the whole thing - can anyone tell me how many people died en route? Did the heated cars sink into the ice never to be seen again?
 
2013-01-21 02:59:52 PM

Need a Dispenser Here: Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.

Who needs antifreeze when you don't turn off the engine?


It helps if you like your heater.
 
2013-01-21 03:00:01 PM
So far about 10 convoys of modified 4x4 vehicles have made the trip, their occupants enjoying heated cabins, electric windows and reclining seats as they journey to the remotest place in the world.

Passing such scenic vistas as the Dry Valleys, the Polar Research Station and the Captain Oates Speed Bump.
 
2013-01-21 03:00:14 PM

Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.


CVS sells these little gel inserts for your boots or gloves to keep you warm.  Just tape a few of those to the engine block, right?
 
2013-01-21 03:03:59 PM
Don't pick up any Swedish hitchikers
 
2013-01-21 03:05:20 PM

netizencain: Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.

CVS sells these little gel inserts for your boots or gloves to keep you warm.  Just tape a few of those to the engine block, right?


Yeah, but you're going to have to microwave them first. Also, bring a microwave.
 
2013-01-21 03:06:48 PM
Here's another version of same story if problems reading

Link
 
2013-01-21 03:09:47 PM
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2013-01-21 03:11:41 PM

Arkanaut: What kind of antifreeze do they use? I just looked up ethylene glycol, and that freezes at 9oF. The average Antarctic winter sees temperatures of below -100oF on average.


Do you even need a liquid cooled engine?
 
2013-01-21 03:13:36 PM

whither_apophis: Don't pick up any Swedish hitchikers


Norwegians. They're Norwegians Mac.
 
2013-01-21 03:21:55 PM
Yay lets mess up another pristine environment!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-21 03:29:26 PM
Phase diagram of what waterrockets was talking about here: https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/Petrology/beutect.htm (eutectics including ethylene glycol mixed with water; Fark won't let me link the page).
 
2013-01-21 03:31:12 PM

bob_ross: Yay lets mess up another pristine environment!


Unlike Mt. Everest, these is no excuse to leave to leave air tanks, shiat and dead bodies lying all over the place.
 
2013-01-21 03:36:53 PM
Does have an upside in that there are scientific projects hampered by the need to get stuff to the South Pole by large American aircraft flying out of Christchurch, or by Sno Cats out of McMurdo Base

If you can just use Toyota 4WDs then becomes like shift from mainframes to PCs - whole lot of unexpected possibilities emerge
 
2013-01-21 03:38:56 PM

bob_ross: Yay lets mess up another pristine environment!


Weren't they getting to their bases by plane before? And I imagine that to get around between places once you are there was normally done by snowmobile. So cars with actual emission controls might actually be an improvement.
 
2013-01-21 03:51:39 PM

UberDave: Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?

They're going to strategically place Chevron/McDonald's along the routes.


And once you pass a certain marker there will be Cracker Barrels too.
 
2013-01-21 03:52:06 PM
I read the headline as "Antarctica has finally been conquered by the cat."

/disappointed
 
2013-01-21 04:14:07 PM
They tried this in the 1930's with the "Antarctic Snow Cruiser". A bus-like vehicle that was part RV camper, part aircraft carrier.

www.retronaut.com

www.retronaut.com

It's tires were useless against the ice & snow and was abandoned. It was rediscovered in the 40's but later expeditions could find no trace of it, leading to some theories that it either was buried under tons of ice, sunk during melting periods, or was stolen by the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Snow_Cruiser
 
2013-01-21 05:14:17 PM

TV's Vinnie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Snow_Cruiser


that's hilarious - 37 tons, presumably before they stuck a plane on top of it, then smooth tires, and a 150hp motor - must have made sense to someone

today far lighter, more powerful vehicles
compressed snow, crevasse radar and GPS to stay on track
 
2013-01-21 05:46:35 PM

StoPPeRmobile: UberDave: Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?

They're going to strategically place Chevron/McDonald's along the routes.

And once you pass a certain marker there will be Cracker Barrels too.


Your taun taun will freeze before the first marker!
 
2013-01-21 06:19:37 PM

whither_apophis: Don't pick up any Swedish hitchikers


"They're Norwegians, Mac"
 
2013-01-21 09:29:29 PM
Sounds great. As long as the weather behaves. And you don't break down. Or get lost. Or have literally anything else at all go wrong.

Then you would probably die. Quickly.
 
2013-01-21 10:02:34 PM

NowhereMon: I'm sure the entire article was fascinating


Yeah, I think I would've liked to have been able to read the WHOLE GODDAMN ARTICLE.
 
2013-01-21 10:43:23 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: NowhereMon: I'm sure the entire article was fascinating

Yeah, I think I would've liked to have been able to read the WHOLE GODDAMN ARTICLE.


Link
 
2013-01-21 11:31:03 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?


People who go on these expeditions are actually responsible for dropping barrels of gasoline along their routes with feet-high flags indicating the stash. So future expeditions can make use of the fuel.

Link
 
2013-01-22 12:06:54 AM
Meh, Hillary drove a farm tractor to the South Pole in 1958:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Trans-Antarctic_Expedition
 
2013-01-22 01:11:17 AM

TV's Vinnie: They tried this in the 1930's with the "Antarctic Snow Cruiser". A bus-like vehicle that was part RV camper, part aircraft carrier.

[www.retronaut.com image 598x448]

[www.retronaut.com image 598x365]

It's tires were useless against the ice & snow and was abandoned. It was rediscovered in the 40's but later expeditions could find no trace of it, leading to some theories that it either was buried under tons of ice, sunk during melting periods, or was stolen by the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Snow_Cruiser


Dirk Pitt rediscovered it a few years back. And then crashed it.
 
2013-01-22 02:27:19 AM

Gough: Meh, Hillary drove a farm tractor to the South Pole in 1958:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Trans-Antarctic_Expedition


In 2013 you probably need to mention that it was Sir Edmund H rather than H Clinton

/wtf is a kiwi doing in Moscow? (apart from freezing his nuts off, no doubt)
 
2013-01-22 02:29:55 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Because People in power are Stupid: Where do they stop for gas?

Just make sure you go before you leave


Oh, poo. They're in the middle of nowhere...just hang it out the window and let loose....

/Pissing icicles would be an awkward superpower...
 
2013-01-22 12:40:45 PM

HighZoolander: While that was maybe one of the less annoying registration requests, I'm not going to register to read the whole thing - can anyone tell me how many people died en route? Did the heated cars sink into the ice never to be seen again?


The Scott expedition in 1912 died. The car people are all fine.
 
2013-01-22 10:10:37 PM

mjjt: Your Average Witty Fark User: NowhereMon: I'm sure the entire article was fascinating

Yeah, I think I would've liked to have been able to read the WHOLE GODDAMN ARTICLE.

Link


Thank you. Thank you very much.
 
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