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(Washington Post)   The Obama administration is creating clear rules to follow when targeting a specific individual for death...except for CIA drones. Whatever, they can do what they want   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 17
    More: Asinine, CIA, obama, Obama administration, legal principles, John O. Brennan, counter-terrorism, Pakistani Taliban, Jeh Johnson  
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2013-01-21 11:11:27 AM  
2 votes:
I'm sure all the fark liberals screaming for a Bush war crimes trial will just happily add Obama to the list, right? Right? Yeah, that's what we thought.
2013-01-21 10:44:11 AM  
2 votes:
It's not bad when liberals do it. Just get over it. Republican bad, liberal good. It's simple as that. If you have trouble with it, too bad, you're probably racist anyway.
2013-01-21 10:40:11 AM  
2 votes:
Subby's lack of faith in dear leader is disturbing...
2013-01-21 02:35:10 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: cryinoutloud: /just a graph, I have no opinion about it.

Gee, I wonder why so many of those killed are called "militants"?

ndeed, newspaper revelations last week about the "kill list" showed the Obama administration defines a militant as any military-age male in the strike zone when its drone attacks.


Well, how do you think they reduced civilian casualties to practically nothing?

/hint: it wasn't by refusing to kill people that would have been called "civilians" if we had a Republican president
//I'm just glad we're finally getting something done, now that the media is completely on board with the military instead of fighting them every step of the way
///no Republican administration could have killed bin Laden, the media would have warned him well in advance of any strike
2013-01-21 02:07:17 PM  
1 votes:

cryinoutloud: umad: So life sucks, STFU and deal with it. Quite the patriot you are.

And you're a dick on every subject, either trolling or you're just a natural asshole.


You're right. I'm an asshole troll because I don't think we should be bombing the shiat out of innocents. I'm a real monster.

Why would I care what you think?

Because I'm smarter than you.
2013-01-21 01:25:39 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: Here's the story of one of the "militants" killed by the US as told by a journalist who had chanced to meet him when he came to protest drone killings of civilians.


People who put themselves into war zones, even if they're innocent, might get killed. News at----oh, no news. It's common sense. Same argument as me walking down a dark alley in a mini-skirt in a bad part of town. I might not deserve to get raped, I might not be "asking for it," but I should be aware that I've put myself into a position where I might be in danger.

And telling the CIA that "it's not fair" I don't think carries much weight. If he knows that our government is corrupt and kills civilians, did he expect to get some special treatment because HE is a civilian?

I hate cops. For that reason, I'm NOT going to go start a public protest about how stupid and brutal most cops are, because I know that's a good way to get myself killed, even if, by law, I haven't done anything wrong.  That's not fair, either. Could it be that life, and governments, are not fair?
2013-01-21 12:27:14 PM  
1 votes:
But I've been told by Republicans that all of our problems are caused by black and brown people.
2013-01-21 12:15:26 PM  
1 votes:

Champion of the Sun: It's kinda weird that only a tiny minority of the populace has a problem with this. Not even 10% of us can get upset about the CIA using flying death robots with no oversight. I guess we're either incredibly stupid, or desensitized to killing. Probably both


/No, it's more the fact that the terrorists hide in buildings with civilians in them. Or churches. You can't expect to bomb and not have civilian casualties. I'm sure (and ive seen alot of those vids) that they try their hardest to not lob a hellfire into someone's house that is not involved, but ya, it's war. It sucks, but it's much better than the carpet bombing of WWII.
2013-01-21 11:54:34 AM  
1 votes:

Anonymous Bosch: For the people biatching about how it's "okay when Obama does it":

No, not really. But as stated above there's a farkton more blame for Bush here. We, as a country, wouldn't be doing this if a certain War On An Abstract Concept didn't get started on the first place. But that would've required an atmosphere in 2001-3 wherein actual debate could've occurred, instead of the swarm of chest-thumping, flag-waving idiots we had terrifying politicians into rubber-stamping shiat like the Patriot Act.

My father had the gall to tell one of his co-workers that he thought the war in Iraq was a bad idea, and the response he got was that he obviously just wanted to see Americans die.

Should Obama or the CIA be doing this? Is it moral, ethical or legal? fark NO. But you conservative assholes let the genie out of the bottle, and people tend not to give power back, as you might have noticed from the umpteenth extension of warrantless wiretapping recently. You didn't just condone torture and murder and the destruction of civil liberty, you cheered for it. And some of you are still out there cheering for it as long as Obama doesn't get the credit. You ceded any pretense of moral authority the United States of America ever had because you got scared..


This, exactly. As long as the guy in the White House has an (R) after his name, all of things they're complaining about now are just fine and anyone who dares sugges otherwise must Hate America. And of course, they're determined that pointing out that anything they're complaining about started while their guy held the reigns means you support it under the current administration. I have this exact exchange with derptards on my local news channel's FB feed every day, but I had never managed to put it as clearly and eloquently as you just did.

/Hat's Off
//Totallly going to paraphrase this the next time some idiot whines about drones.
2013-01-21 11:45:51 AM  
1 votes:

halfof33: I like it when a guy who has been here a month starts right out with the ad hominems.

So it is not a problem that the Administration is assassinating people in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia?

Ok then.


Listen brah, this is my fourth or fifth login here. Been around a long time. (Never used them for trolling/sockpuppetting) And it doesn't take much reading to see that you a troll. I was just laughing at the fake liberal you guys were making up. I said these are illegal actions, just that comparing targeted drone strikes and invasion of a sovereign country based on lies you created are so wildly different, that comparing them would be idiotic. There's a chance Obama could be a war criminal, anyone that isn't a partisan knows Bush is one. And you're the kind of piece of excrement that Anonymous Bosch was talking about. You don't care that these drone strikes are occurring, you only care that Obama is the one okaying them.
2013-01-21 11:44:23 AM  
1 votes:

Anonymous Bosch: For the people biatching about how it's "okay when Obama does it":


Actually, we were pointing out the hypocrisy of people saying it is only bad when Bush did it.

Small but significant difference, and one that there was no way in hell was going to get in the way of your little rant, right sport?

protip: Obama's not ACTUALLY using the drones in Iraq, so... yeah. Bush bad, we get it. Thanks for posting.
2013-01-21 11:36:39 AM  
1 votes:
For the people biatching about how it's "okay when Obama does it":

No, not really. But as stated above there's a farkton more blame for Bush here. We, as a country, wouldn't be doing this if a certain War On An Abstract Concept didn't get started on the first place. But that would've required an atmosphere in 2001-3 wherein actual debate could've occurred, instead of the swarm of chest-thumping, flag-waving idiots we had terrifying politicians into rubber-stamping shiat like the Patriot Act.

My father had the gall to tell one of his co-workers that he thought the war in Iraq was a bad idea, and the response he got was that he obviously just wanted to see Americans die.

Should Obama or the CIA be doing this? Is it moral, ethical or legal? fark NO. But you conservative assholes let the genie out of the bottle, and people tend not to give power back, as you might have noticed from the umpteenth extension of warrantless wiretapping recently. You didn't just condone torture and murder and the destruction of civil liberty, you cheered for it. And some of you are still out there cheering for it as long as Obama doesn't get the credit. You ceded any pretense of moral authority the United States of America ever had because you got scared.

You destroyed this country, and you're whining like little biatches now that it looks like you might have to pay the price too. fark off.
2013-01-21 11:20:11 AM  
1 votes:

halfof33: WhoopAssWayne: I'm sure all the fark liberals screaming for a Bush war crimes trial will just happily add Obama to the list, right? Right? Yeah, that's what we thought.

Some guy was crowing last night about Bush being a "war criminal" and how he couldn't visit certain countries without fear of getting arrested, and I pointed out that many countries aren't particularly happy with The Administration's use of hunter/killer drones, and how is that working out for you.

/hypocritical slurpers gonna slurp


I know you're both just trolls, and I do think there's a lot of illegality in the way Obama does things. But this is a lot different than manufacturing evidence in order to invade a sovereign country. Can you not see the difference? Wait, don't answer that. If Obama starts assassinating people based on lies he created and fed to the media, while relying on those media statements as proof of his assertions, then we can talk. Still shouldn't kill citizens without due process.
2013-01-21 10:55:42 AM  
1 votes:

GameSprocket: stirfrybry: It's not bad when liberals do it. Just get over it. Republican bad, liberal good. It's simple as that. If you have trouble with it, too bad, you're probably racist anyway.

Just gonna phone it in, huh?


Today is not a good day for people like him. He's doing the best he can.
2013-01-21 10:54:40 AM  
1 votes:

stirfrybry: It's not bad when liberals do it. Just get over it. Republican bad, liberal good. It's simple as that. If you have trouble with it, too bad, you're probably racist anyway.


Just gonna phone it in, huh?
2013-01-21 10:39:19 AM  
1 votes:
Spittle-flecked manifestos about U.N. black helicopters is so 1996. It's all about drones now.
2013-01-21 10:37:25 AM  
1 votes:
Is that supposed to be "Whateva! They can do what they want"

Whatever.

Won't help Vincent Foster.
 
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