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2013-01-21 10:37:54 AM  
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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
― Isaac Asimov

Sadly Isaac cast his net too narrow. He should have said: "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States wherever religion thrives, and there has always been."

The idiot's answer to everything: "God did it ... now stop looking for answers!!!"
2013-01-21 01:47:55 PM  
2 votes:

orbister: I have never, ever, met anyone who claims that science explains everything.


Yeah ... anyone who has even a passing understanding of science knows that pretty much the opposite is true: Science is our best tool to gain understanding but it never claims 100% knowledge of anything.
2013-01-21 10:47:33 AM  
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2013-01-21 10:23:13 AM  
2 votes:
If ignorance is bliss shouldn't belligerent ignorance be more blissful? These folks don't seem to be very happy.
2013-01-21 04:35:19 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, and since you are in Ontario, I should point out, Canada doesn't have separation of Church and State. That is a republican (in the sense of the foundation of the government, not the political party). We are a constitutional monarchy that doesn't allow the government to discriminate against religion, and does allow the government to support religious organizations. In fact, its the rights of the minority religion in each province are guaranteed in the constitution.

Here's an explanation from our current chief justice.

Link

Its okay to have religion in schools and religion in laws in Canada in some contexts. Heck our head of state is also the Supreme Governor of the Church of England and the Government had a role in the official creation of the United Church of Canada! If you really think people who support any religion in public schools or laws are religious nutjobs, then you must have a very low opinion of many of the founders of Canada.
2013-01-21 04:20:20 PM  
1 votes:
Farking Canuck
If your point was to argue about the anti-science movement in the the US then you suck at arguing, because what you did was alter and Asimov quote that quite effectively highlighted that point exactly, and made it a generalization about all religion. Since that's a clearly indefensible position you are back pedalling, (pretending you were arguing only about the American movement after a clear and explicit attack on all religion) and resorting to ad-hominem attacks (Unless you have a direct link between the paedophilia scandal, the vatican observatory, the pontifical academy of science, the priests who helped come up with the big bang theory, argued for the acceptance of science by those of faith, and helped lay the foundations for modern genetics, and a monastery with a world famous library).

I thought science types were supposed to accept contrary evidence, revise their hypothesis, and move forward, not ignore evidence and pretend they never said anything wrong to begin with.
2013-01-21 04:20:11 PM  
1 votes:

joker966: Almost everyone that posts here from the left thinks that anyone that isn't from the left is a religious right nutjob.


This is not true.

We think that everyone who ...

- tried to put religion into public schools (yes ID is religion)
- tries to make religious based laws
- discounts evidence based reasoning (aka. science) because their magic book disagrees

,,, are religious nutjobs.

If you are religious but support the separation of church and state, which protects both religions and the rights of individuals, then get vocal and join the fight.

Don't just sit there and whine because you are getting caught in the crossfire.
2013-01-21 01:42:08 PM  
1 votes:

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Don't be too quick to judge. There's only slightly fewer idiots out there whose knee-jerk reaction to any reference to God is "Well you're a farking idiot and your opinions are invalid. Science explains everything!" ...


I have never, ever, met anyone who claims that science explains everything. This particularly applies to professional scientists, perhaps not least because they would all be out of a job if science explained everything.

For that matter, I don't think think I have ever met, or heard of, anyone who believes that science can explain everything, and that goes for professional scientists as well.

It's a uniquely fundamentalist religious position - perhaps by definition so - to believe that a book of iron age myths / camel herder biography / low quality sci-fi can and does explain everything.

By the way, please note that I am not saying that all religious believers claim to know all the answers.
2013-01-21 01:05:47 PM  
1 votes:
Farking Canuck
There is a cult of ignorance wherever religion thrives

Counterexamples to argue against your conjecture. This is just a cursory list of some of the most famous institutions and people who are very strongly tied to religion working to dispel ignorance.

But don't let that dent your confirmation bias or narrow your broad generalizations. Maybe you should have said 'extremism' or 'fundamentalism' or something...

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_academies/acdscien/
http://www.ajcunet.edu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_Saint_Gall
http://vaticanobservatory.org/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/13/science/13prize.html?_r=0
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rj a &ved=0CEUQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfrecTW zgJHk&ei=wHb9UKPPIIz0igLu_4GQCQ&usg=AFQjCNFMmKdvbfYIjLjcmSsBBgAD2vp1Aw &bvm=bv.41248874,d.cGE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
2013-01-21 12:57:51 PM  
1 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Okay, I'll get flamed but here goes anyway?

What do you have against Drudge?


He unironically misrepresents the contents of the articles to add a right-wing spin, and under-represents news that discredits his right-wing spin.
2013-01-21 12:23:31 PM  
1 votes:
Since this is a British newspaper, aren't there supposed to be pics of topless women somewhere?
2013-01-21 11:50:18 AM  
1 votes:
Okay, I'll get flamed but here goes anyway?

What do you have against Drudge?

He aggregates links to news stories. How is that piss you off? Are you Index-haters?
2013-01-21 11:46:22 AM  
1 votes:

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Don't be too quick to judge. There's only slightly fewer idiots out there whose knee-jerk reaction to any reference to God is "Well you're a farking idiot and your opinions are invalid. Science explains everything!" yet can't comprehend basic science like how pure oxygen is lethal or how human reproduction works beyond "Rod D into slot V". I'm not saying there aren't plenty of religious r-tards out there too but derp flows both ways.


The anti-science movement is primarily driven by religious conservatives.
2013-01-21 10:42:57 AM  
1 votes:
Ahhh, I see. The troglodytes were directed towards the telegraph from Drudge Report. It did seem curious to me that they would be there in the first place.
2013-01-21 10:15:24 AM  
1 votes:

UberDave: TFA: "And although drilling two metres on Earth would be a fantastic technological achievement...."

It seems I could accomplish a fantastic technological achievement by visiting my local Home Depot and spending a couple of hours in my back yard.


I wonder if the original quote said "drilling two meters of earth", Either way, way to screw up a quote mr reporter.
2013-01-21 09:54:17 AM  
1 votes:
Nothing brings the derp like Drudge readers.
2013-01-21 09:38:56 AM  
1 votes:
TFA: "And although drilling two metres on Earth would be a fantastic technological achievement...."

It seems I could accomplish a fantastic technological achievement by visiting my local Home Depot and spending a couple of hours in my back yard.
 
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