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2013-01-21 09:04:56 AM

Kurmudgeon: Star Trek is dead, this version is from the hipster universe.
/prefers the Terran Empire.


This is just one of the three Star Trek universes
1 The classic storyline
2 Abram's version
3. Mirror/Evil verse
They could tell stories in each verse and satfiy all fans.
 
2013-01-21 09:10:53 AM
Benedict Cumberbatch and Matt Smith have the same physical trait in common that they can look really weird one moment and totally hot the next.

However, they both look fabulous here:

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-21 09:12:15 AM
Wait a minute - I'm a British-born Anglican and I'm circumcised (thanks to foreskin-hating Canuckian socialist health-care).
 
2013-01-21 09:13:05 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.


This is such a ridiculous conversation that's overdone on Fark, but...

All of your "facts" are contestable, and none of them is any reason to proceed. Most world governments in the West are effectively advising against the practice, a trend which will increase in the future.

There is nothing wrong with either way, from a self-esteem standpoint. Don't feel like you need to cut every boy to look like you so that it continue to be "normal". That's the subtle impetus you're really gesturing towards. It's simply not a practice likely to survive in the West with the decrease of religious faith and an increase in rationality / choice when it comes to medical procedures.

In summation: I don't care about it, but I do believe it is a completely unnecessary practice and (no slings , no arrows here at you or anyone else) it seems fairly common-sense that it would reduce sensitivity of the organ as well as potentially increase the likelihood of late-life ED for the same reasons.

Lastly, why would you surgically alter your body as soon as you are born? Is there something wrong with our natural state that we seriously need to clip our penises? Were they designed wrong or something?
 
2013-01-21 09:24:16 AM

ReapTheChaos: "his clingy costume showed off his lunchbox."

So is this what the kids are calling it these days?


It's a British word. Like "lorry", "crisps", or "dole".

It's kind of interesting... in Great Britain, what we call a "lunchbox" (carrier designed to carry children's lunches to school) is known as a "scrotum".

"Sebastian, Siobhan! The lorry's here to take you to Tallywacker Academy. I've packed your kippers in your scrotum, don't forget it!"
 
2013-01-21 09:36:09 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-21 09:37:42 AM
i716.photobucket.com

"Captain, please, I can read your thoughts!"

"Counselor, everyone on this ship is thinking the same thing."
 
2013-01-21 09:38:25 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.


But neither does....oh wait I see what you did there.
 
2013-01-21 09:38:28 AM

Cyno01: Because its the most British name ever.


I dunno. I always assumed the most British name ever had to include "Nigel" somewhere.
 
2013-01-21 09:39:48 AM
MIne was so big, it was a fiveskin.
 
2013-01-21 09:43:36 AM
"You can almost see what religion I am."

Jedi?
 
2013-01-21 09:45:51 AM

StrikitRich: "You can almost see what religion I am."

Jedi?


Transcendental Transexual?
 
2013-01-21 09:48:30 AM
He can cumber my batch anytime....

For reals though, Sherlock is a fantastic show. More of a mini-series. 2 seasons, 3 hour and a half episodes. I highly recommend it.
 
2013-01-21 09:49:50 AM
No matter what religion he is, one can only hope it's his lunchbox and not his religion's choice of Holy Scripture..
 
2013-01-21 09:52:00 AM

greenlady1: He can cumber my batch anytime....

For reals though, Sherlock is a fantastic show. More of a mini-series. 2 seasons, 3 hour and a half episodes. I highly recommend it.


My wife is very pissed at me because of Sherlock. I got her hooked (via Netflix) after season 2. After the end of episode 6, I turned to her and said "Well, that's it! No more episodes!".

"Only six episodes??? Are you FREAKIN' kidding me" were her exact words.

I guess it was a bit of a tease.
 
2013-01-21 09:53:21 AM
What a "psychological terrorist" might look like.

wherethelongtailends.com
 
2013-01-21 09:56:17 AM

FunkOut: ReapTheChaos: "his clingy costume showed off his lunchbox."

So is this what the kids are calling it these days?

Well, in some areas they're calling it the ol' marshmallow yam casserole.


Plus 1 funny
 
2013-01-21 10:06:58 AM
Fuxsa Benedict Cumberbatch?
 
2013-01-21 10:13:57 AM

HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.


Well that and they can sell the foreskins to face cream companies for tens of thousands of dollars per ounce.
 
2013-01-21 10:14:38 AM

moel: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

But neither does....oh wait I see what you did there.


Actually it does prevent cancer of the penis. Aids risk is also lowered with it.
 
2013-01-21 10:17:23 AM

limeyfellow: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

Well that and they can sell the foreskins to face cream companies for tens of thousands of dollars per ounce.


Or sell the skins to doctors for eyelid transplants. No risk for you expect you might end up cock eyed
 
2013-01-21 10:22:04 AM
The uniforms might as well just be a body condom.
 
2013-01-21 10:26:35 AM

WhippingBoy: greenlady1: He can cumber my batch anytime....

For reals though, Sherlock is a fantastic show. More of a mini-series. 2 seasons, 3 hour and a half episodes. I highly recommend it.

My wife is very pissed at me because of Sherlock. I got her hooked (via Netflix) after season 2. After the end of episode 6, I turned to her and said "Well, that's it! No more episodes!".

"Only six episodes??? Are you FREAKIN' kidding me" were her exact words.

I guess it was a bit of a tease.


Especially now that the 3rd season is delayed until next year...
 
2013-01-21 10:27:20 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.



Of course you are. For the uncircumcised, the idea of an unclad bellend bouncing around in your trousers is painful to the point of horror. Like a more unpleasant version of scrubbing the inside of your mouth with cotton tissues in perpetuity..

That indeed suggests that the nature of the skin is fundamentally changed.

It's like arguing that babies should have their fingernails removed to reduce the chance of them harbouring bacteria under tham.
 
2013-01-21 10:32:10 AM

browneye: Benedict Cumberbatch and Matt Smith have the same physical trait in common that they can look really weird one moment and totally hot the next.

However, they both look fabulous here:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]


No, both of them look like feet. there is not a stich of hottness to either of them.
 
2013-01-21 10:36:42 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.


Personally, I agree. That I why I started a group to lobby for mandatory double mastectomies in all girls once they reach puberty. That would save even more lives than circumcision.
 
2013-01-21 10:48:07 AM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: The uniforms might as well just be a body condom.


i1125.photobucket.com
How ya doin'?
 
2013-01-21 10:49:32 AM

Gulper Eel: The Catskills called. They want their joke from 1965 back.


I remember Robin Williams telling that joke.
 
2013-01-21 10:52:21 AM

WhippingBoy: greenlady1: He can cumber my batch anytime....

For reals though, Sherlock is a fantastic show. More of a mini-series. 2 seasons, 3 hour and a half episodes. I highly recommend it.

My wife is very pissed at me because of Sherlock. I got her hooked (via Netflix) after season 2. After the end of episode 6, I turned to her and said "Well, that's it! No more episodes!".

"Only six episodes??? Are you FREAKIN' kidding me" were her exact words.

I guess it was a bit of a tease.


There will be a series 3. I wish there were more episodes per series, the few they did put out are stellar.
 
2013-01-21 10:55:01 AM

katerbug72: Gulper Eel: The Catskills called. They want their joke from 1965 back.

I remember Robin Williams telling that joke.


I should have read the whole thread before posting. Oops.
 
2013-01-21 10:57:07 AM

BigLuca: Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.

Personally, I agree. That I why I started a group to lobby for mandatory double mastectomies in all girls once they reach puberty. That would save even more lives than circumcision.


How is removing a little skin like removing breasts?
 
2013-01-21 11:01:20 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: BigLuca: Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.

Personally, I agree. That I why I started a group to lobby for mandatory double mastectomies in all girls once they reach puberty. That would save even more lives than circumcision.

How is removing a little skin like removing breasts?


I think the point he was trying to make is that we shouldn't be modifying people's bodies without their consent, and that claiming that circumcision "should" (presumably to infants who are utterly unable to give consent) is bone-chillingly scary.
 
2013-01-21 11:03:25 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: BigLuca: Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.

Personally, I agree. That I why I started a group to lobby for mandatory double mastectomies in all girls once they reach puberty. That would save even more lives than circumcision.

How is removing a little skin like removing breasts?


It's arguably far less of a thing to remove the breasts, as they only have a purpose during breastfeeding, which in itself is optional. A foreskin has a job every hour of the day, just like an eyelid does.
 
2013-01-21 11:06:56 AM

WhippingBoy: Mid_mo_mad_man: BigLuca: Mid_mo_mad_man: entropic_existence: Mid_mo_mad_man: Bob Down: HotWingAgenda: That joke only makes sense outside the US, where circumcision is the norm no matter what religion you are, due to health practices.

As it was in other countries until Washing Yourself was invented.

Washing doesn't prevent cancer of the penis and stds including aids.

Circumsision doesn't prevent it either, it merely lowers your risk factor. By a pretty sizable percentage points, but double-digit reductions in extremely small percentages results in fairly small reductions. As in, it isn't enough for it to be much of a factor overall.

That and neither of those reasons is why it is so prevalent in the US, where it has been that way for decades and those are both fairly recent findings.

Anything that's is cheap, simple and makes condom usage more effective should be done. I doubt I'm missing anything not have a foreskin.

Personally, I agree. That I why I started a group to lobby for mandatory double mastectomies in all girls once they reach puberty. That would save even more lives than circumcision.

How is removing a little skin like removing breasts?

I think the point he was trying to make is that we shouldn't be modifying people's bodies without their consent, and that claiming that circumcision "should" (presumably to infants who are utterly unable to give consent) is bone-chillingly scary.


I never said parents had to do it. I said should.
Has anyone here been circumcised as an adult? I'm curious about pain bruising etc
 
2013-01-21 11:21:58 AM

Bungles: A foreskin has a job every hour of the day, just like an eyelid does.


Eyes collect smegma? So that's what that crust is.
 
2013-01-21 11:27:42 AM
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TeddyRooseveltsMustache: The uniforms might as well just be a body condom.


**clears throat**
 
2013-01-21 11:38:02 AM

Kurmudgeon: Bungles: A foreskin has a job every hour of the day, just like an eyelid does.

Eyes collect smegma? So that's what that crust is.



I'm not sure there's many in the West who's over the age of 14 would have ever really encountered smegma.

It's a far more minor cleaning job than, say, a vagina. And no-one's agruing girls should have their vaginas cut out.
 
2013-01-21 11:40:36 AM

WhippingBoy:
I think the point he was trying to make is that we shouldn't be modifying people's bodies without their consent, and that claiming that circumcision "should" (presumably to infants who are utterly unable to give consent) is bone-chillingly scary.


Yep, what he said. If you weigh the ethical consideration versus the health benefits the facts weigh pretty heavily against circumcision. The American Academy of Pediatrics stopped recommending it in 1999. Yes, it does dramatically lower the risk of penile cancer, but that is a rare cancer in the first place, and secondly it is usually caused by HPV and if/when boys are routinely vaccinated against HPV it should lower the benefits to insignificant levels. As for HIV it lowers the risk by about 15% (in the US). So you would need to circumcise about 400 boys to prevent one additional case of HIV. There are literally dozens of ways to achieve the same reduction in rates without using surgery.
 
2013-01-21 11:44:27 AM

MorrisBird: Bathia_Mapes: log_jammin: why have I not heard the name "Benedict Cumberbatch" before and why am I, apparently, the only one who finds it so amusing?

I'm honestly surprised you haven't heard of him before now. Amongst other things, he's the star of the British TV series Sherlock.

Which rocks.


And won't be back on air until next September! Gah!!!
 
2013-01-21 12:03:05 PM

Bungles:
It's arguably far less of a thing to remove the breasts, as they only have a purpose during breastfeeding, which in itself is optional. A foreskin has a job every hour of the day, just like an eyelid does.


Also, the death rate from all forms of penile cancer (even the type circumcision wouldn't prevent) is about 200 per year. The death rate for women by breast cancer is about 40,000 per year. Yet nobody is seriously debating routine breast removal. Hell, routine removal of breast tissue in men would save about the same number -- 200 men die of breast cancer per year. Lets do that instead.

The only reason we still circumcise is because of cultural inertia. I think it is an anachronism that will eventually be discarded.
 
2013-01-21 12:03:10 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: I never said parents had to do it. I said should.
Has anyone here been circumcised as an adult? I'm curious about pain bruising etc


I was 12, is that old enough to offer a valid opinion for you?

It's grievous bodily harm. I'd like to be able to say "I don't know why this illegal activity is accepted." but unfortunately I do know why. The longer we allow religion to determine medical policy the worse off we'll be as a society.

Any benefit of the surgery can be overshadowed by education and hygiene. Get people to stop having sex while suffering from an STI, don't mutilate their genitals to reduce the danger of the idiotic practice.
 
2013-01-21 12:10:26 PM

BigLuca: Bungles:
It's arguably far less of a thing to remove the breasts, as they only have a purpose during breastfeeding, which in itself is optional. A foreskin has a job every hour of the day, just like an eyelid does.

Also, the death rate from all forms of penile cancer (even the type circumcision wouldn't prevent) is about 200 per year. The death rate for women by breast cancer is about 40,000 per year. Yet nobody is seriously debating routine breast removal. Hell, routine removal of breast tissue in men would save about the same number -- 200 men die of breast cancer per year. Lets do that instead.

The only reason we still circumcise is because of cultural inertia. I think it is an anachronism that will eventually be discarded.


I'm British, and I have to say that we view the American circumcision fetish as.,.. odd. Anyone in the UK who was circumcised would be presumed Jewish, No-one would even really consider it as something anyone would do outside religion.
 
2013-01-21 12:26:34 PM
I'll just leave this here, in case anybody actually cares about the science of circumcision, rather than just hand waving and opinion-trumpeting:

Male circumcision for prevention of heterosexual acquisition of HIV in men
 
2013-01-21 12:31:16 PM

e lo: I'll just leave this here, in case anybody actually cares about the science of circumcision, rather than just hand waving and opinion-trumpeting:

Male circumcision for prevention of heterosexual acquisition of HIV in men



This!
 
2013-01-21 12:33:48 PM

e lo: I'll just leave this here, in case anybody actually cares about the science of circumcision, rather than just hand waving and opinion-trumpeting:

Male circumcision for prevention of heterosexual acquisition of HIV in men



The conclusions of most of the investigations I've read suggest that it's linked to transition via open syphilis sores on the thighs, and that circumcision actually reduced syphilis transmission.


I'm not sure how studies in Africa where syphilis sores are common is particularly applicable in Western counties where syphilis is not.
 
2013-01-21 12:35:07 PM
Cautiously approves:

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-21 12:40:48 PM
 
2013-01-21 12:41:13 PM

e lo: I'll just leave this here, in case anybody actually cares about the science of circumcision, rather than just hand waving and opinion-trumpeting:

Male circumcision for prevention of heterosexual acquisition of HIV in men


Are newborns routinely engaging in so much sex that they need to be worried about HIV?

If you choose to get circumcised once you reach the age of majority, go nuts! Just don't force it on utterly helpless infants who have no say in what's being done to them.
 
2013-01-21 12:51:55 PM

LonMead: brainlordmesomorph: ROBIN WILLIAMS MADE THAT JOKE IN 1982!

Borscht Belt comedians made that joke in the 40's and 50's.
Shakespeare made that joke at the Globe Theatre.
The well-known stand-up philosopher Comicus made that joke working the main room at The Palace.
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What I'm getting at is old joke, is old.


1) My first hearing of it was Robin Williams, gay man watching football.
2) When you die at the Palace, you really die at the Palace.
 
2013-01-21 12:53:47 PM

WhippingBoy: e lo: I'll just leave this here, in case anybody actually cares about the science of circumcision, rather than just hand waving and opinion-trumpeting:

Male circumcision for prevention of heterosexual acquisition of HIV in men

Are newborns routinely engaging in so much sex that they need to be worried about HIV?

If you choose to get circumcised once you reach the age of majority, go nuts! Just don't force it on utterly helpless infants who have no say in what's being done to them.


Speaking of utterly helpless infants who have no say in what's being done to them, do any of you happen to need a babysitter?
 
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