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(Wisconsin State Journal)   "I don't mind paying my debt to society and being responsible for my actions. When you can have one beer and be arrested for drunk driving, it's ridiculous." says the man with 7 drunk driving convictions   ( host.madison.com) divider line
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2013-01-21 10:57:05 AM  
Seize their vehicles and sell them.
 
zez
2013-01-21 10:59:17 AM  
That's why I like living in a real neighborhood rather than a mcmansion suburb. We have local bar & grills, taverns, restaurants and more all within walking distance. I can go have a few beers with friends, watch the game and go home all without needing to drive.
 
2013-01-21 10:59:25 AM  

MagSeven: megarian: DrPainMD: What's ridiculous is that a person can get into his car, safely drive from Point A to Point B, and be in violation of the law due to an arbitrary level of some substance in his blood.

I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.

I might be mistaken, but I think the limit is set at .08 because that's the avg BAC of an average sized person having one beer an hour. After having one beer, ideally you should wait an hour for it to metabolize out of you. But, you know, ain't nobody got time for that, so .08 and under is good. When they lower the limits below that, people get up in arms because you can get DUIs for half a beer or even using too much mouthwash in the morning.


You do have a point.
 
2013-01-21 11:02:40 AM  

Begoggle: Seize their vehicles and sell them.


i would be ok with this if the money used by seizing the vehicles was used to provide cab vouchers for bars so people wouldnt have to drive.

while noone should drink and drive, in a lot of communities, you dont really have much choice. doesnt excuse it but it explains it to a certain extent.
 
2013-01-21 11:03:35 AM  

zez: That's why I like living in a real neighborhood rather than a mcmansion suburb. We have local bar & grills, taverns, restaurants and more all within walking distance. I can go have a few beers with friends, watch the game and go home all without needing to drive.


Yep. There's a great little Tavern about 3 blocks from me.
They even carry The Bloody Axe!!!

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2013-01-21 11:07:58 AM  
I hope they don't think putting these peoples' names and addresses on the net will shame them into stopping. A person with 5 or more DUI's really doesn't give a fark what other people think.
 
2013-01-21 11:08:35 AM  

Father_Jack: Begoggle: Seize their vehicles and sell them.

i would be ok with this if the money used by seizing the vehicles was used to provide cab vouchers for bars so people wouldnt have to drive.

while noone should drink and drive, in a lot of communities, you dont really have much choice. doesnt excuse it but it explains it to a certain extent.


What a crock of bullshiat. You ALWAYS have a choice. If you can't get home without driving, don't drink. So no, it doesn't explain it. What explains it is that people simply don't want to be responsible regardless of their constant bleating that they are.
 
2013-01-21 11:14:01 AM  

tukatz: y.

Wisconsin needs to start locking up at 3rd offense.   And claiming their cars for auction to make up some of the outrageous court costs.


I'm not disagreeing with you, but the question is where do we lock these people up? The work release jails all have waiting lists to begin serving your sentence, and expanding jails is incredibly expensive. As our wonderful governor continues to run this state into the ground, the funding for punishing drunken drivers will continue to dry up
 
2013-01-21 11:19:19 AM  

Father_Jack: Begoggle: Seize their vehicles and sell them.

i would be ok with this if the money used by seizing the vehicles was used to provide cab vouchers for bars so people wouldnt have to drive.



I work thirty miles from home:

1) Go to bar after work and drink a couple of beers
2) Get free ride and avoid $75 cab fare
3) Profit!
 
2013-01-21 11:20:33 AM  

Begoggle: Seize their vehicles and sell them.


We have municipalities and counties in New Mexico falling all over themselves to start vehicle seizure programs once Albuquerque started doing it.

The comical part comes in where these people get their vehicle seized, so they don't have one to install the mandatory interlock in. The proposal in the legislature now is require those people to have a breathalyzer installed in their home.

So, it isn't really so much about preventing them from drinking and driving, it's about making interlock revenue.
 
2013-01-21 11:26:15 AM  

Grimble Crumble: Father_Jack: Begoggle: Seize their vehicles and sell them.

i would be ok with this if the money used by seizing the vehicles was used to provide cab vouchers for bars so people wouldnt have to drive.


I work thirty miles from home:

1) Go to bar after work and drink a couple of beers
2) Get free ride and avoid $75 cab fare
3) Profit!


You still have to find a way back to your car in the morning.
 
2013-01-21 11:26:49 AM  
HOW THE FARK DO YOU STILL HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AFTER YOUR 3RD CONVICTION??

STUPID ARSEHOLES! LEARN SOME PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!
 
2013-01-21 11:28:00 AM  
my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.
 
2013-01-21 11:30:15 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: zez: That's why I like living in a real neighborhood rather than a mcmansion suburb. We have local bar & grills, taverns, restaurants and more all within walking distance. I can go have a few beers with friends, watch the game and go home all without needing to drive.

Yep. There's a great little Tavern about 3 blocks from me.
They even carry The Bloody Axe!!!

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well you guys are hip arent you

/facepalm
 
2013-01-21 11:35:12 AM  

zez: That's why I like living in a real neighborhood rather than a mcmansion suburb. We have local bar & grills, taverns, restaurants and more all within walking distance. I can go have a few beers with friends, watch the game and go home all without needing to drive.


In Janesville, WI (the city profiled in the article) you are always within walking distance of a bar or liquor store. I agree that having a local pub people could walk to could possibly cut back on OWI, but this dude didn't even have that excuse
 
2013-01-21 11:37:11 AM  

Dirtybird971: HOW THE FARK DO YOU STILL HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AFTER YOUR 3RD CONVICTION??

!


Short answer? You don't have a DL and you keep driving anyway
 
2013-01-21 12:04:33 PM  

starlost: my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.


North Carolina was talking about doing that. It would kill the market according to sales people at the shops. I guess we will see who wins. Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


/You looks as goofy on a scooter as you do in a Prius
 
2013-01-21 12:06:43 PM  

Onkel Buck: starlost: my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.

North Carolina was talking about doing that. It would kill the market according to sales people at the shops. I guess we will see who wins. Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


/You looks as goofy on a scooter as you do in a Prius


How can you tell if someone owns a Prius?

Don't worry about it. They'll tell you.

/I'll be here all night.
 
2013-01-21 12:12:47 PM  

EvilEgg: Egoy3k: If you really want to piss off the cops pull a U-turn before a roadblock when you are sober. They'll pull two squad cars away from the roadblock just to chase you down and then get nothing on the breath tester.

/I've done this
//I was a dumb 16 year old

Then they arrest for an illegal u-turn, reckless driving, and a couple more charges I'm sure I am missing.  The point is, you are always breaking the law.


Evading a sobriety checkpoint is often an offense in itself.
 
2013-01-21 12:16:02 PM  

Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.
 
2013-01-21 12:17:38 PM  

tukatz: And, sorry to all the "I only had a few beers" or "I was sobering up" people, but you were stopped for some reason. Whether it was speeding, weaving, running a red light or whatever...


I got a DUI by having a tail light out. Even more comical, I was on my way home from an AA meeting, and had gone to the meeting so that I wouldn't drink anymore. I hadn't had a drink in many hours, and was barely over the limit, which for a drunk isn't even noticeable.

ongbok: I hope they don't think putting these peoples' names and addresses on the net will shame them into stopping. A person with 5 or more DUI's really doesn't give a fark what other people think.


Newsflash: People with drug problems are often in denial about them.
 
2013-01-21 12:21:39 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: DUI laws are in place to profit from drunk driving, not to stop it.



That is 100% CORRECT! It is alllllll about money. Elderly drivers are MUCH more dangerous than someone with a 0.15 BAC. Does MADD care? No. All states should RAISE their bullcrap "impaired" driving limit back up to 0.15 because that is when people ARE drunk.
 
2013-01-21 12:23:19 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.

Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.


Wasnt there a scooter shop in Raleigh? I want to say the bartender at the bar I worked at was dating a guy that worked at one. He would to park his scooter out front of the bar with all the Harleys, used to crack me up
 
2013-01-21 12:28:57 PM  

Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.

Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.

Wasnt there a scooter shop in Raleigh? I want to say the bartender at the bar I worked at was dating a guy that worked at one. He would to park his scooter out front of the bar with all the Harleys, used to crack me up


Just Googled, the only ones I find that are 'Scooters' only are those wheelchair scooter places. The ones I found that have the Motor Scooters are Motorcycle Shops (BMW, Suzuki, Harley, etc.)... maybe some of the wheelchair places sell... yeah, while typing that my brain said "I don't think so..."
 
2013-01-21 12:34:48 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.

Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.

Wasnt there a scooter shop in Raleigh? I want to say the bartender at the bar I worked at was dating a guy that worked at one. He would to park his scooter out front of the bar with all the Harleys, used to crack me up

Just Googled, the only ones I find that are 'Scooters' only are those wheelchair scooter places. The ones I found that have the Motor Scooters are Motorcycle Shops (BMW, Suzuki, Harley, etc.)... maybe some of the wheelchair places sell... yeah, while typing that my brain said "I don't think so..."


Place was called Urban Scooters on Buck Jones. I think it's closed now. I knew I would remember it.
 
2013-01-21 12:44:18 PM  

megarian: Onkel Buck: starlost: my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.

North Carolina was talking about doing that. It would kill the market according to sales people at the shops. I guess we will see who wins. Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


/You looks as goofy on a scooter as you do in a Prius

How can you tell if someone owns a Prius?

Don't worry about it. They'll tell you.

/I'll be here all night.


I've heard that same joke, only subbing 'pilot' for 'Prius owner'.
 
2013-01-21 12:46:29 PM  
As a poster child for the heavy-handedness of drunk driving rules (and punishments), this guy is pathetic. Seven DUIs, dude, you shouldn't even have a license so shut up and be grateful.

And to those saying how unfair it is that blowing 0.08 gets you slapped with a DUI, the law is saying that your judgement/reflexes are impaired, not that you are "drunk". Sure, you probably don't feel drunk on 1 beer an hour but that doesn't mean you aren't a bit slower or a bit more heedless than you should be behind the wheel. Sucks to be someone who gets nailed the next morning, but seriously...where do you live that they do DUI checks in the AM?!

/got into a car with a driver who was drunk (not just impaired)
//ONCE
///never again
 
2013-01-21 12:47:19 PM  

John Buck 41: megarian: Onkel Buck: starlost: my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.

North Carolina was talking about doing that. It would kill the market according to sales people at the shops. I guess we will see who wins. Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


/You looks as goofy on a scooter as you do in a Prius

How can you tell if someone owns a Prius?

Don't worry about it. They'll tell you.

/I'll be here all night.

I've heard that same joke, only subbing 'pilot' for 'Prius owner'.


Vegan works, too.
 
2013-01-21 12:49:02 PM  

cryinoutloud: tukatz: And, sorry to all the "I only had a few beers" or "I was sobering up" people, but you were stopped for some reason. Whether it was speeding, weaving, running a red light or whatever...

I got a DUI by having a tail light out.


See, this is what some of us are talking about, i.e., being pulled over for nonsense like that.

BS.

//follow the ka-$$HING. It's all about the Benjamins.
 
2013-01-21 12:50:15 PM  

megarian: John Buck 41: megarian: Onkel Buck: starlost: my state still says mopeds do not require a drivers license iirc but they are trying to stop that. this is a southern state so you can pretty much ride the moped year round if needed so the drunks get one.

North Carolina was talking about doing that. It would kill the market according to sales people at the shops. I guess we will see who wins. Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.


/You looks as goofy on a scooter as you do in a Prius

How can you tell if someone owns a Prius?

Don't worry about it. They'll tell you.

/I'll be here all night.

I've heard that same joke, only subbing 'pilot' for 'Prius owner'.

Vegan works, too.


Indeed.
 
2013-01-21 12:53:50 PM  

Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.

Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.

Wasnt there a scooter shop in Raleigh? I want to say the bartender at the bar I worked at was dating a guy that worked at one. He would to park his scooter out front of the bar with all the Harleys, used to crack me up

Just Googled, the only ones I find that are 'Scooters' only are those wheelchair scooter places. The ones I found that have the Motor Scooters are Motorcycle Shops (BMW, Suzuki, Harley, etc.)... maybe some of the wheelchair places sell... yeah, while typing that my brain said "I don't think so..."

Place was called Urban Scooters on Buck Jones. I think it's closed now. I knew I would remember it.


Yeah, just looked around for info on them here... everything went to motorcycle shops. Guess a scooter only store isn't going to do business. Hardly ever see them on the roads, actually. There's one guy in my neighborhood who uses his just to run a quick errand nearby... but he's also got 2 Harleys and a truck.
 
2013-01-21 01:08:23 PM  
mopeds are everywhere here. the bastards don't drive near the shoulder but smack in the middle of the road at 25-40 mph. if they just made a attempt to get over when there is room i wouldn't hate them so much.
 
2013-01-21 01:08:38 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: Revenue for the state or keeping scooter salespersons employed.

Motorcycle shops are the ones who sell scooters. If they have to start selling the scooters only to people with valid DLs they'll still be fine. Our motorcycle shops do great business here in NC.

Wasnt there a scooter shop in Raleigh? I want to say the bartender at the bar I worked at was dating a guy that worked at one. He would to park his scooter out front of the bar with all the Harleys, used to crack me up

Just Googled, the only ones I find that are 'Scooters' only are those wheelchair scooter places. The ones I found that have the Motor Scooters are Motorcycle Shops (BMW, Suzuki, Harley, etc.)... maybe some of the wheelchair places sell... yeah, while typing that my brain said "I don't think so..."

Place was called Urban Scooters on Buck Jones. I think it's closed now. I knew I would remember it.

Yeah, just looked around for info on them here... everything went to motorcycle shops. Guess a scooter only store isn't going to do business. Hardly ever see them on the roads, actually. There's one guy in my neighborhood who uses his just to run a quick errand nearby... but he's also got 2 Harleys and a truck.


I live north of Wake Forest right now, pretty much in the sticks and I used to see this old guy on a scooter out on 96 on my way to work in the morning and on my way home at night. I also saw another guy on a scooter while at the grocery store. He was trying to figure out how to secure his suitcase of beer to it so he wouldnt have to hold it while he was driving.
 
2013-01-21 01:13:49 PM  

Onkel Buck: I live north of Wake Forest right now, pretty much in the sticks and I used to see this old guy on a scooter out on 96 on my way to work in the morning and on my way home at night. I also saw another guy on a scooter while at the grocery store. He was trying to figure out how to secure his suitcase of beer to it so he wouldnt have to hold it while he was driving.


Heh. I had to hold onto a 12 pack once sitting on the back of a BMW R1200GS. We only had to go 4 or 5 blocks but both of our cars were on the fritz and we needed beer coming home from a long ride out in the sticks. Walking after that ride was not an option.
 
2013-01-21 01:17:32 PM  
Asa Phelps: "I don't have much sympathy for drunk drivers, but it seemed a little excessive to me."

That's how I feel about most drunk driving laws.

/ "first they came for the drunks", and all that
// "then they came for the alleged terrorists" ...
/// we're basically all farked.
 
2013-01-21 01:19:43 PM  
I think the online map won't do any good and is just a waste of money. But with 7 convictions, that guy just needs to keep his piehole shut.

The maps can be used by non-drunk drivers to determine what roads they should avoid.

I got a DUI by having a tail light out.

So if you are going to get in the car after having a beer, keep it in good shape. How long was that light out? Do a regular check and get that shiat fixed.
 
2013-01-21 01:20:50 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: I live north of Wake Forest right now, pretty much in the sticks and I used to see this old guy on a scooter out on 96 on my way to work in the morning and on my way home at night. I also saw another guy on a scooter while at the grocery store. He was trying to figure out how to secure his suitcase of beer to it so he wouldnt have to hold it while he was driving.

Heh. I had to hold onto a 12 pack once sitting on the back of a BMW R1200GS. We only had to go 4 or 5 blocks but both of our cars were on the fritz and we needed beer coming home from a long ride out in the sticks. Walking after that ride was not an option.


Did you ever go to Bonedaddy's Hideaway before it closed? Korner Pocket?
 
2013-01-21 01:22:17 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: These farking maps are too time-consuming.  Just let me enter my home address and get a list of every sex offender, gun owner, drunk driver, and pit bull owner within a given radius of it.


How about a list of everyone who's all of these?  That's the house to stay away from.
 
2013-01-21 01:25:19 PM  
I'm tired of everyone judging me just because I have a measly five drunk driving convictions.

It's not like I'm irresponsible, or anything.
 
2013-01-21 01:25:37 PM  

megarian: DrPainMD: What's ridiculous is that a person can get into his car, safely drive from Point A to Point B, and be in violation of the law due to an arbitrary level of some substance in his blood.

I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.


Google the term "partition ratio". That's likely your answer.
 
2013-01-21 01:27:05 PM  

Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: I live north of Wake Forest right now, pretty much in the sticks and I used to see this old guy on a scooter out on 96 on my way to work in the morning and on my way home at night. I also saw another guy on a scooter while at the grocery store. He was trying to figure out how to secure his suitcase of beer to it so he wouldnt have to hold it while he was driving.

Heh. I had to hold onto a 12 pack once sitting on the back of a BMW R1200GS. We only had to go 4 or 5 blocks but both of our cars were on the fritz and we needed beer coming home from a long ride out in the sticks. Walking after that ride was not an option.

Did you ever go to Bonedaddy's Hideaway before it closed? Korner Pocket?


Bikers around here don't like Motorcyclists on BMWs. So, no.
 
2013-01-21 01:34:02 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: CapeFearCadaver: Onkel Buck: I live north of Wake Forest right now, pretty much in the sticks and I used to see this old guy on a scooter out on 96 on my way to work in the morning and on my way home at night. I also saw another guy on a scooter while at the grocery store. He was trying to figure out how to secure his suitcase of beer to it so he wouldnt have to hold it while he was driving.

Heh. I had to hold onto a 12 pack once sitting on the back of a BMW R1200GS. We only had to go 4 or 5 blocks but both of our cars were on the fritz and we needed beer coming home from a long ride out in the sticks. Walking after that ride was not an option.

Did you ever go to Bonedaddy's Hideaway before it closed? Korner Pocket?

Bikers around here don't like Motorcyclists on BMWs. So, no.


Good point. I don't recall seeing to many BMWs out front when I worked there.
 
2013-01-21 01:37:08 PM  

megarian: I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.


Having two servings of beers in one giant cup is not "one beer".
 
2013-01-21 01:45:19 PM  

DrPainMD: What's ridiculous is that a person can get into his car, safely drive from Point A to Point B, and be in violation of the law due to an arbitrary level of some substance in his blood.


I don't think you know what that word means.

ar·bi·trar·y/ˈärbiˌtrerē/AdjectiveBased on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.(of power or a ruling body) Unrestrained and autocratic in the use of authority.
I'm fairly certain that a system was used to determine what constitutes driving under the influence.

If it was truly arbitrary, they could simply choose any number at any time and say "aha! .0001!!! you are under the influence".
 
2013-01-21 01:45:26 PM  

The Larch: megarian: I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.

Having two servings of beers in one giant cup is not "one beer".


That's why I said "one 16oz beer".
 
2013-01-21 01:46:44 PM  

The Larch: megarian: I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.

Having two servings of beers in one giant cup is not "one beer".


1 1/3. A 24oz mug of beer is two drinks.
 
2013-01-21 01:46:57 PM  

fusillade762: A lot of drunk drivers are good (drivers) because they do it all the time

Practice makes perfect.


It's true.
 
2013-01-21 01:49:38 PM  

DittoToo: The Larch: megarian: I am suspicious of breathalyzers. I had ONE 16oz beer... literally one, not "officer, I swear I only had one"... And I blew a point .08 on the dot. I was pulled over for the light over my license plate being out. I'm not very good at maths or chemistyy, but I have no idea how one beer = .08.

Having two servings of beers in one giant cup is not "one beer".

1 1/3. A 24oz mug of beer is two drinks.


Great. Now I want beer.
 
2013-01-21 01:58:48 PM  
Who are all these people with home breathalyzers that monitor their guests BAC? I never want to know you people or ever consume alcohol around you people... This is just bizzare. I guess it is a natural product of a police state. Random breath tests? You people should move...
 
2013-01-21 02:04:15 PM  

Maul555: Who are all these people with home breathalyzers that monitor their guests BAC? I never want to know you people or ever consume alcohol around you people... This is just bizzare. I guess it is a natural product of a police state. Random breath tests? You people should move...


I've got a few cop friends. We've done the drinking without eating, and drinking with eating tests to find the standard for each of us... Hey, turns a normal night drinking together a bit more funny.
 
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