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(Pro Football Talk)   Atlanta fan shows Southern hospitality by serving a punch to a 49ers fan. Then things get stabby   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 66
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2013-01-21 12:21:33 AM
ray has a pretty air-tight alibi this time.
 
2013-01-21 12:43:03 AM
Did the conversation go something like this"

"Hey! How about a nice Hawaiian punch?"

"Sure".
 
2013-01-21 03:04:27 AM
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-21 03:28:50 AM
This is why I don't follow pro sports.
 
2013-01-21 05:55:42 AM
But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!

Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.
 
2013-01-21 07:11:45 AM
Another responsible football fan.

/this is my Boobies in the Sports Tab, be gentle
 
2013-01-21 07:44:06 AM
Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.

I'm sure the argument leading to the punch and the punch itself can be attributed to fan rivalry...but once someone makes it physical, I'm thinking all that goes out the window.

Looking at it from the 49er side, I'd probably be a bit on edge if I just got hit by a Falcons' fan just because I doubt the ensuing fight would be 1v1.
 
2013-01-21 08:01:05 AM
I see we're getting all the bases covered early here, all I need now is "**team name** 's fans are classless" and "something about tribalism" to fill out my idiot fan incident bingo card.
 
2013-01-21 08:12:59 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!

Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.


Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch
 
2013-01-21 08:21:52 AM

Warlordtrooper: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!

Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.

Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch


san fran fans have violent reputation, so gonna say probably attempted murder
 
2013-01-21 08:45:13 AM
SF fans have to do something to get their street cred in the same neighborhood as Raiders fans. Given their city is most famous for producing homos and communists, I guess desperate times called for desperate measures.
 
2013-01-21 08:45:38 AM

Warlordtrooper: Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch


It's hard to claim self defense over an unarmed attacker. It'd have to be one hell of a punch for it to put your life in danger. He's going to have an uphill battle justifying cutting the guy's throat.
 
2013-01-21 08:46:22 AM
/this is my Boobies in the Sports Tab, be gentle

We will, are your nipples hard?
 
2013-01-21 08:51:01 AM

Kyro: Warlordtrooper: Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch

It's hard to claim self defense over an unarmed attacker. It'd have to be one hell of a punch for it to put your life in danger. He's going to have an uphill battle justifying cutting the guy's throat.


Depends on the size disparity. A 115lb girl can easily claim deadly force was necessary fighting off an unarmed 250lb man.
 
2013-01-21 08:52:40 AM
A Ravens fan would have gotten away with it!
 
2013-01-21 08:54:58 AM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar:
Depends on the size disparity. A 115lb girl can easily claim deadly force was necessary fighting off an unarmed 250lb man.


Well, it did say a SF fan stabbed a Southerner.
 
2013-01-21 08:57:11 AM

Kyro: Warlordtrooper: Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch

It's hard to claim self defense over an unarmed attacker. It'd have to be one hell of a punch for it to put your life in danger. He's going to have an uphill battle justifying cutting the guy's throat.


Rule number one of "surrounded in a sea of potential assailants": Make an example of the first person who tries you.
 
2013-01-21 08:57:15 AM
History repeats.
Southerner immediately relies on physical conflict upon having his pride and ego wounded. Attacks a nearby neighbor, sure of his own strength, and ultimately loses the fight because he wasnt ready for the consequences of starting a fight with a stranger who is better armed than he was.


At least Atlanta wasnt set on fire this time.
 
2013-01-21 09:14:16 AM

Subtle_Canary: History repeats.
Southerner immediately relies on physical conflict upon having his pride and ego wounded. Attacks a nearby neighbor, sure of his own strength, and ultimately loses the fight because he wasnt ready for the consequences of starting a fight with a stranger who is better armed than he was.


At least Atlanta wasnt set on fire this time.


Are you saying that like it's a good thing?
 
2013-01-21 09:16:10 AM
Ban assault knives!!

Limit knives to 3 inches! There's no use for a knife longer than 3 inches!
 
2013-01-21 09:16:22 AM

Warlordtrooper: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!

Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.

Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch


First rule of self defense is that you respond to an attack with reasonable force to repel the attack. In other words if a single person punches you, you respond with a punch, kick, tackle. You don't pull a knife and stab them. Once you go for a weapon you just escalated and can't claim self defense.
 
2013-01-21 09:18:46 AM
This is the PLAYOFFS! The slapfights are for Jaguars or Browns games. In the playoffs we must step the ultraviolence up to match the play on the field. Go big or go home!
 
2013-01-21 09:24:01 AM

Warlordtrooper: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!

Seriously, though, people -- they're sports teams. Attempted murder of a person who happens to be wearing a slightly brighter color red than you isn't going to get you the key to the city, or even a visit in jail from Arthur Blank or Jed York.

Attempted murder or self defense? The falcon guy threw the first punch


So you might say it was a falcon punch?
 
2013-01-21 09:25:59 AM
ongbok: First rule of self defense is that you respond to an attack with reasonable force to repel the attack. In other words if a single person punches you, you respond with a punch, kick, tackle. You don't pull a knife and stab them. Once you go for a weapon you just escalated and can't claim self defense.

Just pulling a weapon on an unarmed aggressor does not negate self-defense. If the attacker is physically dominant, for example. Also, I'd imagine the Niners fan was probably outnumbered by Falcons fans. The Niners fan may still prove to be an aggressive asshat (bringing a knife to a football game?), but the mere fact he pulled a knife in response to being punched does not in and of itself mean it's not a valid case of self defense.
 
2013-01-21 09:28:17 AM

Hurp: Ban assault knives!!

Limit knives to 3 inches! There's no use for a knife longer than 3 inches!


Dude, you got your political circle-jerking in my sports tab....eeeewwwwwww

/Nobody here cares about that. But feel free to make any crazy statements you want about the upcoming Harbaugh-bowl.
 
2013-01-21 09:29:22 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But Philly fans threw a snowball at a drunk dressed as Santa in 1968 so they're a million times worse than a Voltron made of Hitler, Stalin, John Wayne Gacy, Joel Schumacher and Honey Boo Boo raping the Lincoln Memorial!


Hey, hey, hey! All Schumacher did was direct a shiatty Batman movie! He doesn't deserve to be in the same evil breath as Honey Boo Boo!
 
2013-01-21 09:31:07 AM
I for one hope that Douchey McStabby gets sent to pmita prison. Now it will be a bigger pain in the ass to get into stadia.
 
2013-01-21 09:31:12 AM

Hurp: Ban assault knives!!

Limit knives to 3 inches! There's no use for a knife longer than 3 inches!


I was going to say assault laws didn't stop this, so abolish all assault laws...but I see you've got the politics derp already covered.
 
2013-01-21 09:34:31 AM

Subtle_Canary: Southerner immediately relies on physical conflict upon having his pride and ego wounded. Attacks a nearby neighbor, sure of his own strength, and ultimately loses the fight because he wasnt ready for the consequences of starting a fight with a stranger who is better armed than he was.


Y'know how we make fun of those weirdos that recreate Civil War battles? Yeah, you're a little far gone. Let it go, man. Letting a 150 year old war color your opinion of people that live in the same region today is.. really freaking weird.
 
2013-01-21 09:34:59 AM
Getting stabbed with a knife is probably less deadly to your health than most of Paula Dean's favorite recipes.
 
2013-01-21 09:35:50 AM
It's surprising the NFL can still pull down $100-$300 for a ticket. The last game I went to was last season at Mile High, I mean, Invesco Field at Mile Stadium Stadium. Christ was it boring, and it ended in overtime. My section was a sea of riff-raff. Must have seen at least a dozen people get hauled off by security for starting fights. Every one of those people was a pussy wearing a jersey and only acting big from being with a gang of like-minded mongoloids. The bathrooms were disgusting and had unnecessarily long lines. The beers were $10. The commercial breaks at the game are twice as excruciating. The whole thing just f*cking sucked in person. Still fun as hell to watch on TV.
 
2013-01-21 09:36:50 AM

Kyro: Subtle_Canary: Southerner immediately relies on physical conflict upon having his pride and ego wounded. Attacks a nearby neighbor, sure of his own strength, and ultimately loses the fight because he wasnt ready for the consequences of starting a fight with a stranger who is better armed than he was.

Y'know how we make fun of those weirdos that recreate Civil War battles? Yeah, you're a little far gone. Let it go, man. Letting a 150 year old war color your opinion of people that live in the same region today is.. really freaking weird.


Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.
 
2013-01-21 09:39:14 AM

Hurp: Ban assault knives!!

Limit knives to 3 inches! There's no use for a knife longer than 3 inches!


CT has already done this. At least MA was smart enough to give people responsible enough to carry a concealed weapon the right to carry a far less dangerous 4" knife.
 
2013-01-21 09:46:55 AM
A pairing knife, or Santoku, does not make for a well regulated kitchen staff.
 
2013-01-21 09:48:48 AM

eyeq360: Getting stabbed with a knife is probably less deadly to your health than most of Paula Dean's favorite recipes.


*Reads*
*Starts an outraged reply*
*Wanders off to make coffee with real cream*

Fark the Failcons.  Fark the Niners.  Go Ravens, I suppose.
 
2013-01-21 09:49:02 AM

qorkfiend: Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.


Hey, y'know that one asshole in your neighborhood that's like, a complete dickbag? Yeah. We have those too. And just like your asshole doesn't speak for you, the small group of nutbags that do that shiat do not speak for us. I'll ask you kindly not to assume that just because some jackwagon in my state thinks he's edgy by putting a Confederate flag sticker on his pickup, that does not make it an "integral part of our culture".

Or are you represented by every asshole that ever assholed in New York? Because I can probably find a couple.
 
2013-01-21 09:52:13 AM
qorkfiend: Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.

Oh, bless your heart. You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you.  I hate to break it to you, but most of us go our whole day without even thinking about the Civil War. That is unless some poor unfortunate Yankee with an inferiority complex brings it up.
 
2013-01-21 09:53:08 AM

poughdrew: A pairing knife, or Santoku, does not make for a well regulated kitchen staff.


You'll have to pry my Shun santoku from my cold, dead hands.
 
2013-01-21 10:00:17 AM

Nabb1: Oh, bless your heart. You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you.  I hate to break it to you, but most of us go our whole day without even thinking about the Civil War. That is unless some poor unfortunate Yankee with an inferiority complex brings it up.


The other day I was talking with a fellow son of the soil about the War of Northern Aggression, and how much we wish things could just go back to the good old days of white power and yankees staying out of our business.

Except that conversation never happened. Or anything like it. Nor have I ever heard a conversation like that take place. Y'know why? Because it was 150 years ago. I don't even know anyone who ever knew anyone who owned or was a slave. And I think that's the first time I've used the word "yankee" outside of a baseball discussion.

After living down here 20something years, I've noticed something: there's a few southern weirdos that can't let the civil war go, and we giggle at them. But there's a lot of northern weirdos that can't let the civil war go, and they post on Fark.
 
2013-01-21 10:07:10 AM

qorkfiend: Kyro: Subtle_Canary: Southerner immediately relies on physical conflict upon having his pride and ego wounded. Attacks a nearby neighbor, sure of his own strength, and ultimately loses the fight because he wasnt ready for the consequences of starting a fight with a stranger who is better armed than he was.

Y'know how we make fun of those weirdos that recreate Civil War battles? Yeah, you're a little far gone. Let it go, man. Letting a 150 year old war color your opinion of people that live in the same region today is.. really freaking weird.

Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.


Most everyone in Atlanta is from the North. While there are some actual Southereners here, they all live way out in the burns and will tell you that they never set foot in the city because why would you when you live on a cul-de-sac behind a strip mall and can eat at Applebee's every night?!
 
2013-01-21 10:08:03 AM

REO-Weedwagon: It's surprising the NFL can still pull down $100-$300 for a ticket. The last game I went to was last season at Mile High, I mean, Invesco Field at Mile Stadium Stadium. Christ was it boring, and it ended in overtime. My section was a sea of riff-raff. Must have seen at least a dozen people get hauled off by security for starting fights. Every one of those people was a pussy wearing a jersey and only acting big from being with a gang of like-minded mongoloids. The bathrooms were disgusting and had unnecessarily long lines. The beers were $10. The commercial breaks at the game are twice as excruciating. The whole thing just f*cking sucked in person. Still fun as hell to watch on TV.


tailgating basically, also college games are more fun than nfl games live, the only exception i could imagine is postseason but only a few teams ever reach that every year, and the ticket prices i'm sure are unbelievable
 
2013-01-21 10:14:40 AM

Kyro: Nabb1: Oh, bless your heart. You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you.  I hate to break it to you, but most of us go our whole day without even thinking about the Civil War. That is unless some poor unfortunate Yankee with an inferiority complex brings it up.

The other day I was talking with a fellow son of the soil about the War of Northern Aggression, and how much we wish things could just go back to the good old days of white power and yankees staying out of our business.

Except that conversation never happened. Or anything like it. Nor have I ever heard a conversation like that take place. Y'know why? Because it was 150 years ago. I don't even know anyone who ever knew anyone who owned or was a slave. And I think that's the first time I've used the word "yankee" outside of a baseball discussion.

After living down here 20something years, I've noticed something: there's a few southern weirdos that can't let the civil war go, and we giggle at them. But there's a lot of northern weirdos that can't let the civil war go, and they post on Fark.


You'd think that they'd come up with something new in the past 150 years, but I guess they just aren't that inventive.
 
2013-01-21 10:15:01 AM

Rapmaster2000: Most everyone in Atlanta is from the North. While there are some actual Southereners here, they all live way out in the burns and will tell you that they never set foot in the city because why would you when you live on a cul-de-sac behind a strip mall and can eat at Applebee's every night?!


Eh.. I live out in the Atlanta burbs. And you're right about the food: we suck at it. It's mostly chains. But that's the suburbs for you.

However, most us end up downtown regularly anyway. If not for work, or social lives require it. To your point: there's nothing but strip malls out here. And that's fine for a monday-friday life where you're just trying to get home, but when the weekend arrives and it's time to cut loose, you gotta go where the action is.
 
2013-01-21 10:20:41 AM
just because those involved were a falcon and 49er fan doesn't mean both aren't atlantians. a 49er jersey doesn't mean from san fran. just like wearing an atlanta jersey doesn't mean you are from georgia.
 
2013-01-21 10:27:48 AM

poughdrew: A pairing knife, or Santoku, does not make for a well regulated kitchen staff.


Pearing knife.

/Pet peeve ;)
 
2013-01-21 10:28:47 AM

Nabb1: You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you


Yes
 
2013-01-21 10:34:01 AM

Nabb1: You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you.


Well, you guys do seem to revere anything with the word "antebellum" in it.
 
2013-01-21 10:34:56 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: just because those involved were a falcon and 49er fan doesn't mean both aren't atlantians. a 49er jersey doesn't mean from san fran. just like wearing an atlanta jersey doesn't mean you are from georgia.


Indeed. Was fun seeing people on my FB (I'm from Washington) calling out Seahawks "bandwagoners." Of course, these were Patriots and 49ers fans who never lived in either place. Also, those 49ers fans never posted about their love of the 49ers until the last couple years.
 
2013-01-21 10:35:43 AM
haha...the civil war...atlanta burned...I bet all those rednecks can't get enough of the rebel flag. It's like a broken record.

Also, if you live in the burbs anywhere, you are going to get cul-de-sacs, strip malls, and Applebees. It's not like that is unique to metro Atlanta.

Go to Chops or Fogo or Woody's Cheesesteaks or Nuevo Laredo Cantina like the rest of us
 
2013-01-21 10:42:52 AM

KiwDaWabbit: Well, you guys do seem to revere anything with the word "antebellum" in it.


I think you may be reading into it more than we are.

And you're looney if you don't think this is beautiful.

www.dreamstime.com
 
2013-01-21 11:24:53 AM

qorkfiend: Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.


My neighbor finally put away his Confederate Flag. I think his mom got fed up when he set fire to a tire in the backyard. This in suburban Atlanta.
/ yes I am a damn Yankee
// Atlanta sports teams are doomed to craptastic failure
/// Bless my heart
 
2013-01-21 11:53:57 AM

Kyro: Nabb1: Oh, bless your heart. You really think all Southerners obsess about the Civil War all day longing for a way of life long gone, don't you.  I hate to break it to you, but most of us go our whole day without even thinking about the Civil War. That is unless some poor unfortunate Yankee with an inferiority complex brings it up.

The other day I was talking with a fellow son of the soil about the War of Northern Aggression, and how much we wish things could just go back to the good old days of white power and yankees staying out of our business.

Except that conversation never happened. Or anything like it. Nor have I ever heard a conversation like that take place. .


Bullshiat. You and I talked for hours over beers about that. Don't be ashamed.
 
2013-01-21 01:04:19 PM
Sounds lazy to me, using a knife instead of fighting like a man. Falcons fan, never mind - laziest team in the NFL.

Worked for the Falcons for a year (Glanville's first year), running their SupersTat system. I had to work every home game. Jesus tits, what a pile of failed humanity Falcons fans are. The only thing worse than a stadium full of Falcons fans happens when the Saints come to town. Human garbage, sorry.

Glad to see the Falcons didn't squeak by after playing lazy on a lead. Way to man up for Tony Gonzalez you worthless punks.
 
2013-01-21 01:10:14 PM

ongbok: First rule of self defense is that you respond to an attack with reasonable force to repel the attack. In other words if a single person punches you, you respond with a punch, kick, tackle. You don't pull a knife and stab them. Once you go for a weapon you just escalated and can't claim self defense.


You sound like you've never been in a fight in your life.
 
2013-01-21 01:15:19 PM
The last time I was in Atlanta 8 years ago my friend got stabbed while we were leaving an after party. There was a big fight out front and he was mistaken for one of the people that started it. He didnt get hurt too bad got it in the shoulder. It was a shiatty trip all the way around and I have vowed to never go back. My companys HQ is in Atlanta now and I come up with every excuse not to go there for awards and stuff.
 
2013-01-21 01:17:11 PM

groppet: The last time I was in Atlanta 8 years ago my friend got stabbed while we were leaving an after party. There was a big fight out front and he was mistaken for one of the people that started it. He didnt get hurt too bad got it in the shoulder. It was a shiatty trip all the way around and I have vowed to never go back. My companys HQ is in Atlanta now and I come up with every excuse not to go there for awards and stuff.


I've been here 20 years. Sherman should have salted the earth here.
 
2013-01-21 01:25:06 PM
If the knife wielder went to the game, how did he get the knife past the metal detectors?
 
2013-01-21 01:45:28 PM

Insatiable Jesus: laziest team in the NFL.


Insatiable Jesus: what a pile of failed humanity Falcons fans are.


Insatiable Jesus: The only thing worse than a stadium full of Falcons fans happens when the Saints come to town. Human garbage


Insatiable Jesus: you worthless punks.


Insatiable Jesus: Sherman should have salted the earth here.


You're just so positive and uplifting. I'm high on your good vibes.
 
2013-01-21 02:16:34 PM
As a person who was born and raised in Georgia and lives in the eastside of Atlanta, and who knows way more southerners than northerners who live in the city proper, I'm getting a kick out of all of these people who assume the city is full of transplants.

Protip: it's not. It's the burbs that's full of northerners who are too afraid of black people to live where any actual culture is based.
 
2013-01-21 02:20:13 PM

Cheeseface: Protip: it's not. It's the burbs that's full of northerners who are too afraid of black people to live where any actual culture is based.


Anecdotal evidence to his point: my office is in the burbs: of the 12 people on my team, two are from the south.
 
2013-01-21 02:47:15 PM
You guys seem awfully fixated on making the distinction between who is a carpetbagger and who is not.
 
2013-01-21 05:11:05 PM

SpikeStrip: ray has a pretty air-tight alibi this time.


Aaaaand done in one.
 
2013-01-21 05:17:37 PM

nucal: qorkfiend: Sure, if the South gives up their Confederate symbols and rhetoric. If you don't want people to remember you for things that happened 150 years ago, then don't embrace the things that happened 150 years ago as an integral part of your culture.

My neighbor finally put away his Confederate Flag. I think his mom got fed up when he set fire to a tire in the backyard. This in suburban Atlanta.
/ yes I am a damn Yankee
// Atlanta sports teams are doomed to craptastic failure
/// Bless my heart


I gotta ask: was there a reason to burn the tire, like political commentary, or was it a case of "it just needed burnin'!"?
 
2013-01-21 06:31:36 PM
 
2013-01-21 09:02:32 PM
We've secretly replaced 49ers fans with Oakland Raiders fans.

Let's see if anyone notices. >.>
 
2013-01-21 10:11:39 PM

born_yesterday: I gotta ask: was there a reason to burn the tire, like political commentary, or was it a case of "it just needed burnin'!"?


It was a case of it just needed burnin'. They ran out of Christmas trees to put on the bonfire.
 
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