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2013-01-20 04:02:00 PM  
Those chucklefarks...
 
2013-01-20 04:28:40 PM  

Donnchadha: Those chucklefarks...


i575.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-20 04:42:46 PM  
If people think video games influence children's behavior we'd have an entire generation of city planners.

And the kids that grew up in the 80's playing Pac-Man would have spent the 90's dancing in dark rooms to techno music and muching on magic pills......oh wait.
 
2013-01-20 05:10:37 PM  

GAT_00: Donnchadha: Those chucklefarks...

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That pic makes me LOL every single time I see it.
 
2013-01-20 05:14:47 PM  
God I love those games. I love those games so much, I even enjoy games like Command & Conquer and Simpsons Tap Out because they're kinda like Sim City. Then I would get frustrated in C&C because they would keep coming and destroying the cool base I was trying to build.

/worst C&C player ever
 
2013-01-20 05:15:25 PM  
It won't actually help with any of that. You can't save your game, so no playing with tornadoes. No subways, either. And your cities, in addition to being tiny in space, can't have more people than Wichita, Kansas; in order to survive, your city will have to specialize, which is the exact opposite of how real-world cities behave.

As a teacher who uses games with students all the time, I honestly believe that playing this variant of SimCity will make students less educated rather than more.
 
2013-01-20 05:16:55 PM  
It has been a long time since I played simcity but one of the things I liked to do was having airplanes crash by the dozens all over the city.
 
2013-01-20 05:21:53 PM  

optikeye: If people think video games influence children's behavior we'd have an entire generation of city planners.

And the kids that grew up in the 80's playing Pac-Man would have spent the 90's dancing in dark rooms to techno music and muching on magic pills......oh wait.


I should be an expert at guiding oxen-drawn wagons across rivers.
 
2013-01-20 05:22:54 PM  

Gergesa: It has been a long time since I played simcity but one of the things I liked to do was having airplanes crash by the dozens all over the city.


Kim Jong Il: It will be 911 times 2356.
Chris: My God, that's... I don't even know what that is!
Kim Jong Il: Nobody does!
 
2013-01-20 05:23:10 PM  
I played with one of the early Sim City versions but I don't know the current abilities.

Does it allow you to set up a Working Nazi Dictatorship? Diss the Fascist all you want, but they often had "booming" economies and got the trains to run on time.
 
2013-01-20 05:29:07 PM  

cgraves67: optikeye: If people think video games influence children's behavior we'd have an entire generation of city planners.

And the kids that grew up in the 80's playing Pac-Man would have spent the 90's dancing in dark rooms to techno music and muching on magic pills......oh wait.

I should be an expert at guiding oxen-drawn wagons across rivers.


And I'm an expert on making a snack in exactly the amount of time it takes to load a flight simulator.
 
2013-01-20 05:45:13 PM  

HairBolus: I played with one of the early Sim City versions but I don't know the current abilities.

Does it allow you to set up a Working Nazi Dictatorship? Diss the Fascist all you want, but they often had "booming" economies and got the trains to run on time.


Except they didn't.....

The Reichsbahn was basically ignored for the first 8 years of Nazi control and would've ground to a total halt (and almost did on multiple occasions) for lack of spare parts, locomotives and rolling stock if the Germans hadn't stolen all the French, Austrian, Czech and Polish rolling stock for their own in '39-40.
Italy didn't do much better.
The economies of both countries were strained to collapse by peacetime deficit spending on military projects and without the loot from the occupied territories never would have lasted more than a few years after '39 even without the war, at least with the same scale of military spending and quality of life for their citizens.
 
2013-01-20 06:10:55 PM  
This is going to be the worst Sim city game ever. I don't understand who they are aiming for with this one, casual Sim city players left for the Sims long ago. Simcity 4 was superb but this is garbage. The more I learn of this game the more I am pissed off. This game will bomb terribly and I hope whoever is responsible for this game kills themselves.
 
2013-01-20 06:20:42 PM  
My computer still isnt fast enough to run simcity 4...
 
2013-01-20 06:30:00 PM  
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/Vaguely relevant?
 
2013-01-20 06:32:47 PM  

frozenhotchocolate: This is going to be the worst Sim city game ever. I don't understand who they are aiming for with this one, casual Sim city players left for the Sims long ago. Simcity 4 was superb but this is garbage. The more I learn of this game the more I am pissed off. This game will bomb terribly and I hope whoever is responsible for this game kills themselves.


Yeah, they had a great basis for SimCity 4 but the random crashes they never fixed seemed to drive away a lot of users. They should have built off of what was a solid start, but instead they seem to have placed the blame for it being a failure on the gameplay instead of the game crashing before you could get much of anything done.
 
2013-01-20 06:49:53 PM  
SimCity games have limitations. But the basic idea is a far better way of educating than standard classroom.

Stephen Johnson Everything Bad Is Good For You (Link) pointed out that 7 yo's learning stuff that previous generations never got until University.

i49.tinypic.com

If we can figure out how to make other lessons as engaging as SimCity, we will fix many of our ed problems overnight
 
2013-01-20 06:51:30 PM  
You people can do what you want, but I'm voting for Ed Ward for Sim City mayor.
 
2013-01-20 07:05:50 PM  

frozenhotchocolate: This is going to be the worst Sim city game ever. I don't understand who they are aiming for with this one, casual Sim city players left for the Sims long ago. Simcity 4 was superb but this is garbage. The more I learn of this game the more I am pissed off. This game will bomb terribly and I hope whoever is responsible for this game kills themselves.


Maybe you should, I dunno, play it first?
 
2013-01-20 07:08:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: frozenhotchocolate: This is going to be the worst Sim city game ever. I don't understand who they are aiming for with this one, casual Sim city players left for the Sims long ago. Simcity 4 was superb but this is garbage. The more I learn of this game the more I am pissed off. This game will bomb terribly and I hope whoever is responsible for this game kills themselves.

Maybe you should, I dunno, play it first?


Always on DRM is fine. Putting your saved games to the EA servers where you can't have fun and destroy your city then reload makes it the worst. I'm going to pirate this game when "offline" mode is hacked into it.
 
2013-01-20 07:11:15 PM  
I have the iPad app.  Best way to waste time ever
 
2013-01-20 07:19:11 PM  
Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?
 
2013-01-20 07:24:13 PM  

cgraves67: optikeye: If people think video games influence children's behavior we'd have an entire generation of city planners.

And the kids that grew up in the 80's playing Pac-Man would have spent the 90's dancing in dark rooms to techno music and muching on magic pills......oh wait.

I should be an expert at guiding oxen-drawn wagons across rivers.


I know exactly what to do when someone gets dysentery: bury them.
 
2013-01-20 07:35:00 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?


AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.
 
2013-01-20 07:38:54 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.


Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????
 
2013-01-20 07:45:43 PM  
Aw man, they're going to go all Diablo 3 on this aren't they? :(
 
2013-01-20 07:56:18 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????


i1-win.softpedia-static.com
EA Games
ruin everything
 
2013-01-20 07:59:36 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????


I never cared for the old SimCity games, and outside of the terrible online only nonsense with the constant realtime saves, this new version looks like something I might actually enjoy playing.

Also, I'm sure the game will be cracked and the DRM will be removed, as will the crazy save restrictions, within months of the release.
 
2013-01-20 08:04:46 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????


This is stupid true.  Plus "always-online" DLC that will allow for a few minutes of play, at best, if servers go down.

And also, there are plans for a shiatton of DLC buildings, Sim skins, etc., which they're calling "ploppables."  The game itself is turning out to be a gigantic ploppable.
 
2013-01-20 08:05:58 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: "always-online" DLC


DRM.  My bad.
 
2013-01-20 08:11:47 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????

This is stupid true.  Plus "always-online" DLC that will allow for a few minutes of play, at best, if servers go down.

And also, there are plans for a shiatton of DLC buildings, Sim skins, etc., which they're calling "ploppables."  The game itself is turning out to be a gigantic ploppable.



My face right now:
laurenspieller.files.wordpress.com

/No I'm not that cute IRL
//Ruggedly handsome maybe.... *keeps dreaming*
 
2013-01-20 08:39:02 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????

This is stupid true.  Plus "always-online" DLC that will allow for a few minutes of play, at best, if servers go down.

And also, there are plans for a shiatton of DLC buildings, Sim skins, etc., which they're calling "ploppables."  The game itself is turning out to be a gigantic ploppable.


Really getting sick of games with double digit DLC's - they're basically BEGGING you to not buy the game until 2 years out when it comes out in GOY edition with all DLC's included.
 
2013-01-20 08:42:47 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????


The EA answer is that you're going to have so much more fun playing the game thanks to forced socialization that you won't even notice the massive decrease in game options (for example, no subways in this version either). So instead of game features, you'll have leaderboards. Because when people think SimCity, they immediately think leaderboards.

Oh, and also - according to EA - there's just so much going on under the hood of the game, that your computer isn't powerful enough to run it. You need access to their cloud computing to handle all of the details.

The more realistic answer would be that A) they like the idea of always on DRM, as although it may eventually get cracked, it'll likely last at least a week or so during which time most of the sales will take place, and B) EA has decided to try and shoehorn multiplayer into everything, because they've realized that people talking other people into playing games is a great marketing system.

For someone who was looking forward to a new single player (that part shouldn't even need to be said) SimCity, this is going to be an abomination.
 
2013-01-20 08:45:36 PM  
Simcity was ruined with that SimCity Societies game. That was an abortion.
 
2013-01-20 08:59:59 PM  
I have Simcity 4, which I picked up for a song on Steam. I think I'll stick with that, rather than this online-based bull.
 
2013-01-20 09:08:52 PM  
I bought CitiesXL 2012 when it was on sale, but haven't played much. (4 hours) It just seems like my city is impossible to please. I can't just sit back and generate revenue for a minute. Then again, these games have always been an exercise in slowly going bankrupt for me..

Anyway, CitiesXL seems like a decent clone with no EA.
 
2013-01-20 09:10:07 PM  
Fark EA
 
2013-01-20 09:12:26 PM  
The upcoming SimCity game looks remarkable, but I'm sure it will be stripped down to a minimum "game" that will require $300 worth of DLC to turn it into something worthwhile to sit down and actually play, like they did with Sims 3.

It will take quite a bit to get me to load Origin on my machine. It's like a platimum-plated, crappier, less-game-populated version of Steam, which works great (the latest updates now allow you to place your steam games on alternative drives, for those people with limited space on their SSD boot drives)
 
2013-01-20 09:16:19 PM  

LesserEvil: The upcoming SimCity game looks remarkable, but I'm sure it will be stripped down to a minimum "game" that will require $300 worth of DLC to turn it into something worthwhile to sit down and actually play, like they did with Sims 3.

It will take quite a bit to get me to load Origin on my machine. It's like a platimum-plated, crappier, less-game-populated version of Steam, which works great (the latest updates now allow you to place your steam games on alternative drives, for those people with limited space on their SSD boot drives)


...to clarify, I mean Steam works well. I have no idea on Origin, except that it is EA's attempt to "me too" the cloud gaming market, but instead of Gabe's vision that aims to make gamers happy (and make loads of cash in the process), we have faceless EA CEO's vision of generating as much cash as possible from suckers, erm, gamers as possible and shove our own intrusive DRM down their throats without regard to their wishes.
 
2013-01-20 09:27:34 PM  

MasonL87: Doktor_Zhivago: Fair_Poopsmith: Bonanza Jellybean: Which can only be played online, has draconian DRM otherwise, DLC out the ass, and will be shut down in six months so they can charge you $60+ for next year's identical iteration.

/did I miss anything?

AND everything saves in real-time.  So... no more sandbox fun.  No more trying something out, then demolishing it and reloading a previous save.  No more unleashing monsters just for the hell of it and starting over again.  No more trial and error.

No more SimCity, really.  Fark this game in its stupid ass.

Is this true????

I was so excited when I heard about the remake... why would they do that... WHY?????????

I never cared for the old SimCity games, and outside of the terrible online only nonsense with the constant realtime saves, this new version looks like something I might actually enjoy playing.

Also, I'm sure the game will be cracked and the DRM will be removed, as will the crazy save restrictions, within months hours of the release.


FTFY.

/will probably "acquire" it from Sweden just to spite EA
//regardless, I won't play it
 
2013-01-20 09:35:03 PM  
So what you're all saying then, is not to get excited about this?

/damn
 
2013-01-20 10:30:55 PM  

LesserEvil: LesserEvil: The upcoming SimCity game looks remarkable, but I'm sure it will be stripped down to a minimum "game" that will require $300 worth of DLC to turn it into something worthwhile to sit down and actually play, like they did with Sims 3.

It will take quite a bit to get me to load Origin on my machine. It's like a platimum-plated, crappier, less-game-populated version of Steam, which works great (the latest updates now allow you to place your steam games on alternative drives, for those people with limited space on their SSD boot drives)

...to clarify, I mean Steam works well. I have no idea on Origin, except that it is EA's attempt to "me too" the cloud gaming market, but instead of Gabe's vision that aims to make gamers happy (and make loads of cash in the process), we have faceless EA CEO's vision of generating as much cash as possible from suckers, erm, gamers as possible and shove our own intrusive DRM down their throats without regard to their wishes.


Origin is serviceable, but considering how EA treats a lot of their other online services, any loyalty to it should be suspect at best. The cloud save functionality is barely functional and there's not a lot of options in terms of organizing your visible library of games on it. The only reason it managed to gain a sizable population at all was only because of Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3on PC, and the number of other console games where they've managed to shoehorn Origin account services into it.

They also seem to have no desire to keep Origin evolving much like Steam has. They've put more effort into trying to build up 3rd party support into the storefront than in keeping the client competitive with steam.

For me though, my dislike of Origin comes from it being one of the major reasons Syndicate was killed off as a franchise. Sure, the game wasn't earth shattering, but that they locked it away to Origin and only Origin killed interest in it for myself and many others at launch.

Hell, could probably be partially to blame for TOR's less than stellar launch numbers in that first month since there was a lot of confusion on how to obtain it.
 
2013-01-20 10:32:41 PM  
Is it an EA game?

Yes?

Then go fark yourself. I'm not playing it, I'm not buying it, I'm not even farking pirating it.
 
2013-01-20 11:23:22 PM  

kroonermanblack: Is it an EA game?

Yes?

Then go fark yourself. I'm not playing it, I'm not buying it, I'm not even farking pirating it.


I'd like to subscribe
I've got 5 subscriptions to your newsletter already.

I do few things in life on principle as I can be a rather unprincipled person. And it probably reflects poorly on my character when I admit one of my few principles is telling EA to go fark themselves. That said, there it is.
 
2013-01-20 11:38:47 PM  

SJKebab: So what you're all saying then, is not to get excited about this?

/damn


Pretty much.

Watched a lot of "eavision" videos on Youtube and got really antsy....
 
2013-01-20 11:52:45 PM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: God I love those games. I love those games so much, I even enjoy games like Command & Conquer and Simpsons Tap Out because they're kinda like Sim City. Then I would get frustrated in C&C because they would keep coming and destroying the cool base I was trying to build.

/worst C&C player ever


But General Shih Tao is generous, so generous...
 
2013-01-20 11:57:45 PM  

mjjt: SimCity games have limitations. But the basic idea is a far better way of educating than standard classroom.

Stephen Johnson Everything Bad Is Good For You (Link) pointed out that 7 yo's learning stuff that previous generations never got until University.



If we can figure out how to make other lessons as engaging as SimCity, we will fix many of our ed problems overnight


Civilization and Alpha Centauri surely have taught thousands of people how science, technology, and the arts combine to produce the world we live in. Probably many more than ever saw the series "Connections."
 
2013-01-21 12:00:31 AM  

soporific: cgraves67: optikeye: If people think video games influence children's behavior we'd have an entire generation of city planners.

And the kids that grew up in the 80's playing Pac-Man would have spent the 90's dancing in dark rooms to techno music and muching on magic pills......oh wait.

I should be an expert at guiding oxen-drawn wagons across rivers.

I know exactly what to do when someone gets dysentery: bury them.


I am properly trained in resisting and exterminating, if need be, at least 478 different invasive alien species.
 
2013-01-21 12:02:36 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: HairBolus: I played with one of the early Sim City versions but I don't know the current abilities.

Does it allow you to set up a Working Nazi Dictatorship? Diss the Fascist all you want, but they often had "booming" economies and got the trains to run on time.

Except they didn't.....

The Reichsbahn was basically ignored for the first 8 years of Nazi control and would've ground to a total halt (and almost did on multiple occasions) for lack of spare parts, locomotives and rolling stock if the Germans hadn't stolen all the French, Austrian, Czech and Polish rolling stock for their own in '39-40.
Italy didn't do much better.
The economies of both countries were strained to collapse by peacetime deficit spending on military projects and without the loot from the occupied territories never would have lasted more than a few years after '39 even without the war, at least with the same scale of military spending and quality of life for their citizens.


That's why you need to embrace the Tropic model of governance.
 
2013-01-21 12:03:13 AM  
*Tropico
 
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