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(KOB4)   The Guns Keep Us Safe Tour 2013 keeps chugging along with a stop in New Mexico where five people, including three children, were shot dead by a 15 year old boy   (kob.com) divider line 1330
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2013-01-20 06:00:37 PM
Well obviously we need armed guards on all the streets and watching all homes instead of just police patrols.

We can't restrict the right to have the weapons but need to station armed guards everywhere to ensure freedom and safety!
 
2013-01-20 06:01:08 PM

CrazyCracka420: If only the 2 adults and 3 kids were packing heat this would have never happened.


This is actually THEIR fault for ALLOWING themselves to be victims. If you don't have what it takes to protect yourself, you get what you deserve.
 
2013-01-20 06:01:29 PM

Vodka Zombie: Ha! The only flaw in your otherwise impeccable logic is that cars aren't used to fight tyranny. You can only fight tyranny with a bunch of guns.

So, since this 15 year old used a gun, we have no choice but to believe that this family was tyranny, and it was his patriotic duty to water the tree of liberty (which can only be watered with a gun and not a car). I expect the NRA will be giving him a freedom medal.


Know how I know you're a trolling scumbag?
 
2013-01-20 06:01:51 PM
And what did YOU do to celebrate Gun Appreciation Day?
 
2013-01-20 06:01:57 PM
Okay, so, like, the South Valley isn't really all that safe and just 'cause I confine myself to the NE Heights, that doesn't mean I'm hate'n either.


/ also, I abhore traveling across the river, keep it on the Texas side as much as possible.
 
2013-01-20 06:02:12 PM

desertfool: Is anyone else sick of the damned gun threads? Even the foobies threads have guns nowadays!


I'm with you.  Now is not the time to be talking about guns.  I think Subby should be forced to re-submit this thread and make no mention of the fact that a gun was used.  Maybe you can suggest a headline and help Subby out.  I'm sure he'd thank you.

/Honestly, I'm not sick of the gun threads.
//I'm sick of mass shootings that bring about the gun threads.
 
2013-01-20 06:02:17 PM

Aeon Rising: Can we start report car accidents with such frequency? That way people may pay attention to something that will actually save more lives.


Sigh. Maybe you missed the numerous times it has been pointed out that to operate a car you need a special license, must pass a proficiency test, are subject to many restrictions as to where, when, and how you can operate your vehicle, the vehicle itself must have certain safety features, be regularly inspected and registered with the state. You also are required to have insurance. None of those things are required to purchase and own or operate most guns.
 
2013-01-20 06:02:23 PM

vpb: give me doughnuts: vpb: queezyweezel: cameroncrazy1984: queezyweezel: What's an "assault type rifle"?

When did they modify the definition to cover semiautomatic replicas?

There is no such thing as a "semi-automatic replica".  A semi-automatic assault rifle is an actual military assault rifle with the full auto portion omitted or disabled.

It's still an assault rifle, just as a car with a transmission that won't go into fifth gear is still a car.

There's no such thing as a semi-automatic assault-rifle. It can look like one, but if it isn't capable of full-automatic (or burst) fire, then it is is just a rifle.

Wrong.

A semi-automatic assault rifle is an assault rifle.  Do you think a selective fire rifle stops being an assault rifle when it is set to semi-auto?  In fact they are not that difficult to convert to full auto.  Just add the missing parts and any missing machining.

The argument based on the NRA's definition of assault rifle is one of the silliest I have ever heard.



No. Just f*cking stop already.

Selective fire is a necessary condition of an assault rifle. Period. No selective fire, no assault rifle. That's what the term means. It's what it's meant for a very long time, and we don't need jackasses like you redefining our terminology for political reasons. If you're against semiautomatic rifles, say you're against semiautomatic rifles. But quit trying to redefine words to suit your needs.

Now the journalists have been called out enough for misusing terminology that they say "assault type". Again, no. Quit being stupid and just call it a magazine fed semiauto.
 
2013-01-20 06:02:38 PM
Stop reporting on this stuff!

Look over there!
 
2013-01-20 06:02:41 PM
So how's that culture of crime, violence and badassery working out so far?
 
2013-01-20 06:03:19 PM

Pincy: Aeon Rising: Can we start report car accidents with such frequency? That way people may pay attention to something that will actually save more lives.

Don't know about where you live, but any car accident around here that involves fatalities is plastered on all the local news stations with live reporters and interviews from witnesses. And I'm in a city with over a million people.


Its almost like cars serve a purpose other than the deaths or injuries of people and accidents involving said vehicles are therefore accepted more easily* as a cost of their convenience and necessity to our way of life. False Equivalence is false.

/Also cars tend to kill people in ACCIDENTS not premeditated murderous rampages. I don't think there are tens of thousands of car based murders every year. I could be wrong though..

*not that people dying in car accidents is a good thing, dammit you know what i mean...
 
2013-01-20 06:03:36 PM

Tymast: Why isn't the media reporting on all the guns that haven't killed someone yet?


Because it's much more fun to use fear and logical fallacy to erode the rights of the populous.
 
2013-01-20 06:03:40 PM
How did I guess it'd be in the South Valley?
 
2013-01-20 06:05:15 PM

pedrop357: Do we do this when people, including teens, kill their family with breakopen shotguns or baseball bats?


Why would we?
There's no political points to score.

Besides, kids murdering their families has never happened before ar-15's.
 
2013-01-20 06:05:16 PM

pedrop357: Vodka Zombie: Ha! The only flaw in your otherwise impeccable logic is that cars aren't used to fight tyranny. You can only fight tyranny with a bunch of guns.

So, since this 15 year old used a gun, we have no choice but to believe that this family was tyranny, and it was his patriotic duty to water the tree of liberty (which can only be watered with a gun and not a car). I expect the NRA will be giving him a freedom medal.

Know how I know you're a trolling scumbag?


Really?

I think I was being pretty flippin' obvious about it.  But, you know, not really trolling.  Making a joke?  Sure.  Trolling?  I don't know.  I'll let you be the judge.
 
2013-01-20 06:05:24 PM

pedrop357: In other news, about 80 kids under age 11 have died so far this month from child abuse, with just 1400 or so to go this year.

When that dad used fuel to kill his two sons and himself, I don't remember anyone talking about the fuel used
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/justice/washington-powell-case/index.ht m l


I got nothing against responsible gun ownership, but all this false equivalency malarkey is making it's leading proponents come off like a pack of window lickers who smell of Doritos and their own flatulence.
 
2013-01-20 06:05:51 PM

Dinki: Sigh. Maybe you missed the numerous times it has been pointed out that to operate a car you need a special license, must pass a proficiency test, are subject to many restrictions as to where, when, and how you can operate your vehicle, the vehicle itself must have certain safety features, be regularly inspected and registered with the state. You also are required to have insurance. None of those things are required to purchase and own or operate most guns.


The 2nd amendment to the constitution doesn't talk about the right to operate motor vehicles, either.

Oddly enough, a car don't require a federal dealers license to sell, a background check to purchase, a special permit merely to possess in most states and a separate permit to operate that requires fingerprints and background check.. Drivers licenses are valid in every state, there no restrictions on automatic transmissions. No state requires you to show cause in order to get a drivers license, nor do drivers licenses cost $60-200 and require retesting, fingerprinting, and (only in some states) another interview to prove that you're worthy of being licensed.
 
2013-01-20 06:06:57 PM

pedrop357: Dinki: Sigh. Maybe you missed the numerous times it has been pointed out that to operate a car you need a special license, must pass a proficiency test, are subject to many restrictions as to where, when, and how you can operate your vehicle, the vehicle itself must have certain safety features, be regularly inspected and registered with the state. You also are required to have insurance. None of those things are required to purchase and own or operate most guns.

The 2nd amendment to the constitution doesn't talk about the right to operate motor vehicles, either.

Oddly enough, a car don't require a federal dealers license to sell, a background check to purchase, a special permit merely to possess in most states and a separate permit to operate that requires fingerprints and background check.. Drivers licenses are valid in every state, there no restrictions on automatic transmissions. No state requires you to show cause in order to get a drivers license, nor do drivers licenses cost $60-200 and require retesting, fingerprinting, and (only in some states) another interview to prove that you're worthy of being licensed.


See above post.
 
2013-01-20 06:07:08 PM

ZeroPly: Quit being stupid and just call it a magazine fed semiauto.


How about you gunnuts quit being asshats and stop trying to derail any meaningful limits on gun ownership with pathetic semantic BS?
 
2013-01-20 06:07:09 PM
Also on that same day approximately 311,591,860 people were NOT murdered with a firearm!
 
2013-01-20 06:07:19 PM
It's ironic that this multiple shooting will not be large enough to create a big national stir. It's like the NRA has this mass murder safety zone where things work out for them unless a threshold is reached.
 
2013-01-20 06:07:26 PM

Somacandra: Vodka Zombie: I'm just thankful this kid didn't get his hands on a hammer. Can you even begin to imagine the bloodbath had he found a hammer,

[i.imgur.com image 265x375]R.I.P. MAXWELL'S SILVER HAMMER


Actually l think this is the song that applies

Link
 
2013-01-20 06:07:26 PM

bunner: pedrop357: In other news, about 80 kids under age 11 have died so far this month from child abuse, with just 1400 or so to go this year.

When that dad used fuel to kill his two sons and himself, I don't remember anyone talking about the fuel used
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/justice/washington-powell-case/index.ht m l

I got nothing against responsible gun ownership, but all this false equivalency malarkey is making it's leading proponents come off like a pack of window lickers who smell of Doritos and their own flatulence.


Leave Doritos out of this, please.
 
2013-01-20 06:07:37 PM

bunner: I got nothing against responsible gun ownership, but all this false equivalency malarkey is making it's leading proponents come off like a pack of window lickers who smell of Doritos and their own flatulence.


No, it shows that the special treatment reserved for guns demonstrates an agenda and is not rooted in any concern for children or saving lives.
 
2013-01-20 06:07:48 PM

ekdikeo4: Has there been a gun incident in the last 3 months that wasn't initially reported as someone carrying an AR15?


That's the media's fault. They use a new definition now.

Handgun = IT WAS A GLOCK!!!
Long gun = IT WAS AN AR-15!!!!

Apparently someone pointed out to them that AK-47's are not common in the US, so they updated their boilerplate gun story.
 
2013-01-20 06:07:50 PM
FTA:

Albuquerque Fire Chief James Breen said the Albuquerque Fire Department is morning the senseless loss of one of our spiritual counselors, Greg Griego.

He said Griego was a dedicated professional that passionately served his fellow man and the firefighters of this community.

Breen said Griego's calming spirit and gentle nature will be missed.

Griego also volunteered at the Bernalillo County jail for 13 years, offering spiritual comfort and guidance to the incarcerated, according to Metropolitan Detention Center Chief Ramon Rustin.


If only he'd 1) spent some of that counseling time with one of his own goddamn children and 2) locked up his weapons, if he was unwilling to offer 'spiritual comfort' to one of his own goddamn children

\there ya go, gun fetishists - I went right to the real problem
\\of course, if he had a hammer...
\\\he'd hammer in the morning, he'd hammer in the evening
 
2013-01-20 06:08:26 PM

doglover: Actually, the argument is crazy people like this kid, are the problem. Guns are just a detail.


Before: Sane, lawful gun user.
After: He was obviously crazy! Why didn't anyone take his guns?
 
2013-01-20 06:08:35 PM
Ban assault hatchets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden
 
2013-01-20 06:08:45 PM

mjjt: Somacandra: Vodka Zombie: I'm just thankful this kid didn't get his hands on a hammer. Can you even begin to imagine the bloodbath had he found a hammer,

[i.imgur.com image 265x375]R.I.P. MAXWELL'S SILVER HAMMER

Actually l think this is the song that applies

Link


Although l wonder if either of these songs wd be released, or given air-time, today
 
2013-01-20 06:09:00 PM
I think AR is an acronym for "automatic rifle".
 
2013-01-20 06:09:04 PM

WhoopAssWayne: More dead children for Obama and his scumbag supporters to exploit. It's your lucky day liberals, more dead children!


like the NRA did with Mr. Obama's children.

You slug.
 
2013-01-20 06:09:13 PM

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Tymast: Why isn't the media reporting on all the guns that haven't killed someone yet?

Because it's much more fun to use fear and logical fallacy to erode the rights of the populous.


It would have been nice if all the gun rights advocates that are so concerned about our rights spoke up when the Supreme Court ruled that Miranda rights no longer have to be read. Or when OWS protesters were beaten to a pulp for exercising their right to peaceably assemble. Or when,the Bush administration set the precedent that torture is an acceptable mechanism to erradicate 5th amendment rights. Or when terrorism became a sufficient charge to detain indefinitely without charge or council. Or when warrant-less searches in the name of fighting terror became commonplace.

But yeah, that firearm will protect us all from tyranny.
 
2013-01-20 06:09:23 PM
Weapon of Peace ™
 
2013-01-20 06:09:33 PM

bunner: So how's that culture of crime, violence and badassery working out so far?


bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com

"I'll let you know after I'm released for defending myself against an unarmed kid who was running away from me."
 
2013-01-20 06:09:34 PM
Friends identified the man as Greg Griego, a pastor at Calvary Church in Albuquerque.

He must be a pastor of the Church Militant.
 
2013-01-20 06:10:18 PM

cameroncrazy1984: queezyweezel: What's an "assault type rifle"?

From dictionary.com:

assault riflenoun1.a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomati c fire,utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.2.a nonmilitary weapo n modeled on the military assault rifle,usually modified to allow only  semiautomatic fire.Origin:
1970-75

Any other questions?


According to the brady bill, you are incorrect. The classifications for an assault weapon under the Brady bill are as follows.

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.


To further add to the stupidity, This is not the only definition of an assault rifle. Each state has their own definition.

/most gun crime is committed with pistols anyways. Shootings involving rifles just get more press because more people are involved. It's the same reason you never hear about the people who die daily in car crashes, because its only a couple people. The moment a plane crashes and 200 people die, it's a national tragedy and far worse then car accidents, simply because more people died at one time, even if it's still statistically safer.
 
2013-01-20 06:10:22 PM

IlGreven: Before: Sane, lawful gun user.
After: He was obviously crazy! Why didn't anyone take his guns?


He wasn't really old enough to buy that gun, so it likely belongs to someone else and was unlawfully obtained by him.

We only know he's crazy when he does something, THEN and usually ONLY THEN do people who knew him and were all around him basically tell us 'Yeah, he was crazy'
 
2013-01-20 06:10:25 PM

pedrop357: bunner: I got nothing against responsible gun ownership, but all this false equivalency malarkey is making it's leading proponents come off like a pack of window lickers who smell of Doritos and their own flatulence.

No, it shows that the special treatment reserved for guns demonstrates an agenda and is not rooted in any concern for children or saving lives.


Or that motor fuel, while not designed to be used as a weapon, CAN be. Most things can, I suppose. Although I'm pretty sure that the primary application for gasoline, as designed, isn't setting motherf*ckers on fire. Get it?
 
2013-01-20 06:10:26 PM

vpb: queezyweezel: cameroncrazy1984: queezyweezel: What's an "assault type rifle"?

When did they modify the definition to cover semiautomatic replicas?

There is no such thing as a "semi-automatic replica".  A semi-automatic assault rifle is an actual military assault rifle with the full auto portion omitted or disabled.

It's still an assault rifle, just as a car with a transmission that won't go into fifth gear is still a car.


No it is not. Unless it has selectable rate of fire and is capable of firing more than one bullet with each pull of the trigger one at least one rate of fire then it is NOT an assault rifle.

Also, your analogy is flawed. If you put combat boots and BDUs on a person does it make them a soldier? No. It does not. So have a semi-automatic rifle that is dressed up like an assault rifle does not make it an assault rifle.
 
2013-01-20 06:10:28 PM

Anal Tobacco Furnace: I think AR is an acronym for "automatic rifle".


Armalite.
 
2013-01-20 06:10:36 PM
15-year-olds in possession of firearms is already illegal.

Which new gun law would have prevented this submittard?
 
2013-01-20 06:11:00 PM

dameron: [img.meetone.com image 450x600]

A picture of said murderer.    This should be interesting.


God bless you courageous, brave hero. I salute you good sir. Thank you for keeping us all safe.
 
2013-01-20 06:11:17 PM

ZeroPly: Selective fire is a necessary condition of an assault rifle. Period.


No. It isn't. Jesus Christ don't you guys ever read a dictionary? WTF do you think "Automatic or semi-automatic" means?

For f*ck's sake. Give up. You cannot argue against the freaking dictionary definition of the word.
 
2013-01-20 06:11:22 PM
Let's talk about the dozens of children beaten to death in the same timeframe.

No?
 
2013-01-20 06:11:46 PM

born_yesterday: It would have been nice if all the gun rights advocates that are so concerned about our rights spoke up when the Supreme Court ruled that Miranda rights no longer have to be read. Or when OWS protesters were beaten to a pulp for exercising their right to peaceably assemble. Or when,the Bush administration set the precedent that torture is an acceptable mechanism to erradicate 5th amendment rights. Or when terrorism became a sufficient charge to detain indefinitely without charge or council. Or when warrant-less searches in the name of fighting terror became commonplace.

But yeah, that firearm will protect us all from tyranny.


Too bad the left and all the anti-gun types were right to there to join most of that and ignored Obama when continued it.
 
2013-01-20 06:11:52 PM

fluffy2097: The classifications for an assault weapon


Classification does not equal definition.

Try again!
 
2013-01-20 06:11:59 PM

vpb: I think there must be a mistake.  It says he used an AR-15, but I have been assured that people only dislike them because they look "scary" and they can't actually hurt or kill anyone.


I prefer the term "Gun of Peace™." It does a bonus 2d20 troll damage against anyone who's ever used "Religion of Peace™," which tend to be the same people who are stockpiling AR-15s for when Fartbongo's intifadah... something something something.
 
2013-01-20 06:12:02 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Anal Tobacco Furnace: I think AR is an acronym for "automatic rifle".

Armalite.


*snerk*
 
2013-01-20 06:12:14 PM

Xanlexian: dameron: [img.meetone.com image 450x600]

A picture of said murderer.    This should be interesting.

God bless you courageous, brave hero. I salute you good sir. Thank you for keeping us all safe.


Not him.
 
2013-01-20 06:12:54 PM
Why don't you gun nuts take up a more challenging hobby. Shooting is so easy even a 15 year old autistic kid can do it.
 
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