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		Austrians debate whether doing away with the draft will make it harder to fill jobs currently taken by conscientious objectors to avoid being drafted, like ambulance drivers, kangaroo herders, and retirement-home attendants (hawaiinewsnow.com)		10
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poorcku		2013-01-21 07:59:04 AM

1 votes:

I find it very interesting how a majority can decide (constitutionally) what a minority (young men) must do. I see no uproar. Suppose that the parliament should decide women have a duty to give birth, now that would be cool.

Kumana Wanalaia		2013-01-20 05:40:36 PM

1 votes:

What's this about aliens, now?

simplicimus		2013-01-20 05:00:15 PM

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mrexcess: Silverstaff: From a purely "quality of soldiers" aspect, you're right that a professional force is generally better than a conscripted one. However, that's a form of tunnel vision - answering the question of "how should the military be composed" should be about more than just efficiency. It gets into some really fundamental, basic questions of democracy, equity, and responsibility.

Particularly in a force that, as you admit, "works more on using skill and technology" rather than depending on the physical fitness and group cohesion of individual troops, it seems right to consider whether or not a more equitable, if somewhat less cohesive, force would be a better fit for our nation.

Service means citizenship?

Kittypie070		2013-01-20 03:34:35 PM

1 votes:

[thrashes MFAWG with a picket pulled from a picket fence]

cryinoutloud		2013-01-20 03:29:47 PM

1 votes:

"Doktor_Zhivago: MFAWG: The US needs a draft, mostly so everybody will have skin in the game in the most meaningful way possible.
Everytime someone says that phrase, even in jest, Jesus kills a kitten
*twitch*

A guy with a lot of skin in the game

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Talondel		2013-01-20 03:16:25 PM

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MFAWG: The US needs a draft, mostly so everybody will have skin in the game in the most meaningful way possible.

Yes, the draft did a great job of keeping us out of unnecessary conflicts in Korea and Vietnam.

mrexcess: BMulligan
The last thing our armed forces need right now is a massive influx of unnecessary inductees with absolutely no desire to be there.

We heavily utilize our military to shore up our global economic policies. What are the effects of allowing those who benefit most from said economic policies to contribute least to the military efforts? Probably more and longer wars, no?

A draft doesn't fix that, it just makes it so that the people who are off risking their lives for the rest of us are picked arbitrarily instead of by volunteer. And that assumes that a draft is actually random, when in practice it isn't. In practice, the draft simply shifts the burden off of those who voluntarily choose to be in the military on to a combination of those who would volunteer and those who aren't politically connected enough to get out of serving.

BMulligan		2013-01-20 02:42:53 PM

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MFAWG: The US needs a draft, mostly so everybody will have skin in the game in the most meaningful way possible.

The last thing our armed forces need right now is a massive influx of unnecessary inductees with absolutely no desire to be there.

thamike		2013-01-20 02:27:27 PM

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Spanky_McFarksalot: danielem1: No one even read the headline or the article before me? (hint: I'll be back)

remind me not to invite you to parties.

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