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(New York Magazine)   Now here is the story of how how Tide became an underground currency, and my life got turned upside down   (nymag.com) divider line 84
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2013-01-20 12:58:25 PM
The Tide people would never sanction that tag line, of course. But this unlikely black market would not have formed if they weren't so good at pushing their product.
...
For its part, Procter & Gamble doesn't seem overly concerned about the black-market popularity of its product.
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It just happens that the high demand for Tide that message fuels also sustains criminal enterprises.



AHA! Now we know who the real criminal is around here: Procter & Gamble, for making their product so desirable! Curse you, evil corporations!!!!  This is all your fault!!!!
 
2013-01-20 01:11:30 PM
FTFA: Some stores have tried attaching tracking stickers to bottles to establish their provenance, only to find that thieves just wash them off.

I wonder what brand of soap they use to do do.
 
2013-01-20 01:19:49 PM
If you're going to steal detergent, why not steal the most expensive one? It's simple as that. It takes no more effort to steal the cheaper brands.

And tide really is the best. I used the cheap stuff forever and once I happen to have a coupon while it was on sale and I was hooked. It really does go further than any other brand and works better. The first few times I used it I used way too much and had to rinse a few times to get all the suds out. I by half as often now and stock up when I find a sale.
 
2013-01-20 01:33:09 PM

umad: So since this is a thread about laundry detergent, I have a question. Is it true that you aren't supposed to use soap on jeans? I read that you should put them in a ziplock and freeze them every few weeks or something instead. Have any of you tried this?


I do that with my nutsack and all the wrinkles are gone, so yeah, it works.
 
2013-01-20 01:37:18 PM
It's for laundering drug money. Duh.
 
2013-01-20 02:08:51 PM

umad: So since this is a thread about laundry detergent, I have a question. Is it true that you aren't supposed to use soap on jeans? I read that you should put them in a ziplock and freeze them every few weeks or something instead. Have any of you tried this?


No, that's not true. That's just what hippies do.
 
2013-01-20 02:10:46 PM
Also, can someone please explain how a household product is used as a currency for drugs? Do the druglords have a lot of laundry to do? I am seriously not getting it.
 
2013-01-20 02:28:04 PM

Jument: Also, can someone please explain how a household product is used as a currency for drugs? Do the druglords have a lot of laundry to do? I am seriously not getting it.


1. Crack Head needs crack
2. Crack Head steals Tide
3. Crack Head trades Tide for crack
4. Dealer sell Tide to fence
5. Fence aggregates and sells back to stores (or ships overseas)
6. Store stocks "laundered" (snicker) Tide bought from fence
 
2013-01-20 02:32:27 PM

TexasPeace: I cannot stand scented laundry detergent.  Everywhere I go, there are people proudly clad in their eyeball-bleeding Tide-scented cheap polyester Ross Dress for Less foreign slave-labor fashion of the day.

There should be a law:  natural cotton khaki school uniforms for all citizens all the time, washed in organic environmentally-friendly unscented state-manufactured detergents at domestic state prison run laundry facilities.  Any other clothing should be illegal.  Any scented detergent should justify summary execution under the stand-your-ground rule.


How much of your day do you spend walking around like this?

i877.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-20 02:35:37 PM

Jument: Also, can someone please explain how a household product is used as a currency for drugs? Do the druglords have a lot of laundry to do? I am seriously not getting it.


If they don't get caught, the shoplifter's cost of product acquisition is $0.They trade the Tide bottle for $1 of their drug of choice.
The new *ahem* cost of product acquisition is $1. That person then sells it to a store for $5.
(profit = $4)

FTFA: "A store that charges $19.99 for a 150-ounce bottle might claim $2 in profit. But if it buys stolen bottles for $5, that jumps to $15. "

/I was told there would be no math.
 
2013-01-20 02:38:18 PM
Count me as one of those non-Tide users. Between the smell, and the resulting rashes, our family has used Tide maybe once in the last 20 years. And that was a starter pack included with a washing machine.
 
2013-01-20 02:40:20 PM
When a bottle of Tide is taken from a store without being rung up, a crucial step gets skipped, leading to shipment delays. And when that happens, some store managers place stopgap orders with local wholesalers who may be less than rigorous about where they obtain their products or from fencing rings that employ their own sales teams and maintain legitimate-looking websites.

Hmmm. Which to go with, which to go with.....

Should I post this:
filmgrab.files.wordpress.com
We were selling their own Tide back to them

Or this one:
images.hitfix.com
Heard you got robbed!
 
2013-01-20 02:41:12 PM
Seventh Generation for me.
 
2013-01-20 02:49:41 PM

Yezi Farded: Jument: Also, can someone please explain how a household product is used as a currency for drugs? Do the druglords have a lot of laundry to do? I am seriously not getting it.

If they don't get caught, the shoplifter's cost of product acquisition is $0.They trade the Tide bottle for $1 of their drug of choice.
The new *ahem* cost of product acquisition is $1. That person then sells it to a store for $5.
(profit = $4)

FTFA: "A store that charges $19.99 for a 150-ounce bottle might claim $2 in profit. But if it buys stolen bottles for $5, that jumps to $15. "

/I was told there would be no math.


Still, the value per unit mass of Tide is pretty low. Those 100 oz bottles are massive and very heavy. There must be dozens of products that are much smaller and more valuable by mass and volume. You would think that drug dealers would not want to have to "launder" truckloads full of Tide. It just seems stupid. No?
 
2013-01-20 02:50:45 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The article explained a few things. Now I know why many very poor people use Tide. Personally, I've always preferred the cheaper alternatives, that work just as well at, you know, CLEANING CLOTHES. I remember an old Consumer Reports article that mentioned that all detergents were essentially equal at clothes cleaning, and that the only differences were smell and amount of suds (suds actually have nothing to do with cleaning).


Same thing with clogged toilets. You can buy a can of drano from Walmart; which is the active ingredient (sodium hydroxide), in a liquid solution along with some blue coloring for about 8 dollars a gallon. Or for about the same price you can buy 8 gallons of red devil lye, which is just the sodium hydroxide in solid flakes.

Of course, the red devil shafts you by not including the water, but you should have some in the clogged toilet anyway. And if you need the blue, just toss in some food coloring or piss out some processed hurricanes.
 
2013-01-20 03:02:25 PM

nickerj1: Let's see: Tide for $15/2L ooooor, Xtra for $3/2L.

They both clean my clothes. Hmmm. I've never ever ever used Tide. And never will. As far as name-brand markups go, laundry detergent is the highest (% increase of price)/(% increase of quality) of any product ever.


As someone who just got back from buying Xtra, I'm really getting a kick out of these replies....

Seriously. Tide was $12.68 for the same quantity as Xtra at @ $2.58. WTF?
 
2013-01-20 03:06:42 PM
So how do you get the associated prestige from using Tide? it's not like you can walk around the streets using it. Do people brag about it and tell others to smell their clothes? Is it a major insult to say someone uses a different brand?

I fully understand that having/using a certain brand has prestige, now how does it actually work for Tide?
 
2013-01-20 03:36:56 PM
I find that the cheaper detergents such as Purex, and Xtra will give your closthes a weird moldy funk if you do not dry them immediately. For a lazy ass like me who sometimes forgets to take stuff out of the machine, it can be a disaster. I have tried both Purex and Xtra personally so I am not talking out of my ass.

We tend to buy either all or arm and hammer. Both unscented.
 
2013-01-20 03:41:58 PM

Jument:
Still, the value per unit mass of Tide is pretty low. Those 100 oz bottles are massive and very heavy. There must be dozens of products that are much smaller and more valuable by mass and volume. You would think that drug dealers would not want to have to "launder" truckloads full of Tide. It just seems stupid. No?


Trading truckloads of Tide takes more effort than selling cartons of smokes without those tax wrapper-thingys, but it is still probably better risk/reward when the product you are trading is something that is virtually impossible to trace PLUS it and has the added bonus of being functional and is not overly offensive or odoriferous. In the drug user and drug dealer day to day economy there probably would be a better chance of a clean getaway when detergent and fabric care products are your trading currency.
 
2013-01-20 04:10:27 PM
This Tide story is pure soap. The police would Cheer at such conspicuous ill gotten Gain(s). They would Wisk the Bold drug dealers to jail!
 
2013-01-20 04:15:59 PM

MFAWG: Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: I'll get whatever is BOGO, unscented preferably. Usually it's Arm & Hammer

Arm & Hammer makes me itch, for reals. Every time, and no matter which version.


Opposite for me. Tide makes me itch and get hives. Arm & Hammer seems to the only brand I don't a skin reaction from.
 
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2013-01-20 05:19:46 PM

Jument: Yezi Farded: Jument: Also, can someone please explain how a household product is used as a currency for drugs? Do the druglords have a lot of laundry to do? I am seriously not getting it.

If they don't get caught, the shoplifter's cost of product acquisition is $0.They trade the Tide bottle for $1 of their drug of choice.
The new *ahem* cost of product acquisition is $1. That person then sells it to a store for $5.
(profit = $4)

FTFA: "A store that charges $19.99 for a 150-ounce bottle might claim $2 in profit. But if it buys stolen bottles for $5, that jumps to $15. "

/I was told there would be no math.

Still, the value per unit mass of Tide is pretty low. Those 100 oz bottles are massive and very heavy. There must be dozens of products that are much smaller and more valuable by mass and volume. You would think that drug dealers would not want to have to "launder" truckloads full of Tide. It just seems stupid. No?


The lure of the brand goes a long, long way. You could almost hear the marketing guy from P&G pop a insta-boner through the article. This is a marketing department's wet dream.
 
2013-01-20 06:53:27 PM
How is subby the only person who doesn't know the words to the Fresh Prince theme song?
 
2013-01-20 08:37:57 PM
when the shift_DAWG was just a _PUP, he once bought a very pricey OTC (about 30 bucks) anti-diarrheal medicine from a chain drug store, and then returned it to "exchange" for the much cheaper Pepto Bismol (plus the $26 difference refunded). he kept the original receipt and then proceeded to shoplift the expensive medicine and "exchange" it again at a different location of the same chain. twenty six bucks wasn't a bad haul in those days (min. wage was $3.35 an hr).

/not for drugs, but for food, gas, and video games.
//my lawn, get off of it.
 
2013-01-20 08:54:27 PM
? that's old story from 2012 Oct I think, why was that greened ? I submitted a funny story about
a dog cat and water the other day that was 100% ignored ???? WHY WHY
 
2013-01-20 11:33:42 PM
FTA: "Cashiers and stockists, working for low pay, are often disinclined to confront a potential criminal."

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-21 01:10:58 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-21 05:21:50 AM
I stick with Tide. Mostly because that's what I've always used and my skin is sensitive and I'm afraid to switch and break out in a rash.

Not because of crack.
I also like the smell.
 
2013-01-21 06:25:58 AM

tripleseven: I find that the cheaper detergents such as Purex, and Xtra will give your closthes a weird moldy funk if you do not dry them immediately. For a lazy ass like me who sometimes forgets to take stuff out of the machine, it can be a disaster. I have tried both Purex and Xtra personally so I am not talking out of my ass.

We tend to buy either all or arm and hammer. Both unscented.


It's not the brand of detergent making your clothes smell that way. It's called 'souring' and it's because your 'clean' clothes are still covered in living things that grow well in a moist environment. The reason the cheaper detergents seem to cause it is because they don't have as much perfume in them to cover it up.

Try putting a tiny amount of bleach in with the water before adding clothes in an old style washer or bleach water in a HE washer tray. You'll notice there's no souring even after leaving the clothes in for a day or more.
 
2013-01-21 09:22:28 AM

lewismarktwo: after leaving the clothes in for a day or more.


Why would you do that
 
2013-01-21 09:56:10 AM

vudukungfu: lewismarktwo: after leaving the clothes in for a day or more.

Why would you do that


I did that exactly once and learned not to do it. There really is no excuse for being that lazy. If you use a laundromat, well you risk someone taking your stuff and if you have your own washer/dryer, FFS worst case scenario is you have to walk down to the basement.

I still leave stuff in the dryer sometimes, but there's no harm in that - except some things get wrinkled and I do not iron.

/don't really care if some things get wrinkled.
 
2013-01-21 01:59:13 PM
The article is about the liquid Tide.

Tide's powdered version, however, used to have additional non-laundry uses, as it formerly contained trisodium phosphate. Mixed with black powder, it would make a decent field expedient explosive.
 
2013-01-21 07:01:58 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7545653/82024700#c82024700" target="_blank">vudukungfu</a>:</b> <i>lewismarktwo: after leaving the clothes in for a day or more.

Why would you do that</i>

Because I <i>can</i>. Or, you know, road trip.
 
2013-01-21 07:04:54 PM
Hmm... apparently my html is missing. <big>poop</big>
 
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