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2013-01-20 08:18:54 AM  
Wife and I went to see Last Stand the other night - while not the greatest epic film of all time by any stretch, there were a few times when everyone in the theater was laughing.

I guess as long as you view it as a "action-comedy" and not a serious flick, you may not be too disappointed.
 
2013-01-20 08:22:03 AM  
Johnny Knoxville is just horrible.
 
2013-01-20 08:37:41 AM  
There was so much potential for the lil' old grandmother and her lines.  It could have been epic.

/saw it yesterday .....
 
2013-01-20 08:43:22 AM  
I actually want to see The Last Stand, but since my girlfriend is a farking biatch, I didn't get to last night.
 
2013-01-20 08:48:13 AM  

doczoidberg: I actually want to see The Last Stand, but since my girlfriend is a farking biatch, I didn't get to last night.


If only "a" and "farking" were switched huh?!...
 
2013-01-20 08:55:45 AM  
I would see it. From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age. Plus Luis Guzman's in it. Can't go wrong with Luis Guzman.

We ended up seeing This is 40. About 20 minutes too long, but had some great one liners, extremely uncomfotable funny moments, and a nice little story all in all. Plus I appreciated Leslie Mann showing her breasticles.
 
2013-01-20 09:00:31 AM  

chuggernaught: We ended up seeing This is 40. About 20 minutes too long, but had some great one liners, extremely uncomfotable funny moments, and a nice little story all in all. Plus I appreciated Leslie Mann showing her breasticles.


You're telling me that a Judd Apatow film went on too long?!?!?
 
2013-01-20 09:34:29 AM  
I watched "Commando" again a few weeks ago. I remembered it being a great movie.

/It's a steaming pile of turd
 
2013-01-20 09:38:19 AM  
Arnold really should try his hand at another genre. Maybe dramatic period pieces.
 
2013-01-20 09:38:50 AM  
with all the other options in theatres at the moment, I'm shocked this turd even got 10th place...
 
2013-01-20 09:41:42 AM  
30 million dollar production budget? It will not only turn a profit but just might get a sequel if it does well overseas.

/haven't seen it
 
2013-01-20 09:42:37 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Arnold really should try his hand at another genre. Maybe dramatic period pieces.


He should redo Hamlet a la Last Action Hero.

"To be, or not to be"
"NOT TO BE!"
 
2013-01-20 09:44:23 AM  

WhippingBoy: Lost Thought 00: Arnold really should try his hand at another genre. Maybe dramatic period pieces.

He should redo Hamlet a la Last Action Hero.

"To be, or not to be"
"NOT TO BE!"


I was thinking more like playing Christof Waltz's father in a mid-life crisis dramady set in WW2 Germany
 
2013-01-20 09:44:54 AM  
It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!
 
2013-01-20 09:46:55 AM  

sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!


Yep. Nothing says "success" like "Straight to Video"
 
2013-01-20 09:46:56 AM  

sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!


The butthurt is strong with this one.
 
2013-01-20 09:47:07 AM  

jimzdat: Wife and I went to see Last Stand the other night - while not the greatest epic film of all time by any stretch, there were a few times when everyone in the theater was laughing.

I guess as long as you view it as a "action-comedy" and not a serious flick, you may not be too disappointed.


Just putting it out there, but if anyone walked into the theater and expected a serious flick, they are poaching our oxygen and should be allowed to perish.
 
2013-01-20 09:50:40 AM  
Broken City was rated R? I don't see why. There's one completely gratuitous sex scene (that whole story line was unnecessary), and the violence, while there, didn't seem like much higher than a PG-13.
 
2013-01-20 09:58:09 AM  

WhippingBoy: I watched "Commando" again a few weeks ago. I remembered it being a great movie.

/It's a steaming pile of turd


Let off some STEAM, WhippingBoy!

/Chainmail?
 
2013-01-20 10:00:29 AM  

sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!


Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!
 
2013-01-20 10:01:57 AM  

chuggernaught: From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age.


The it was marketed poorly. It looks bad, but still not as bad as Parker. What kind of retard wants to see that after it's ads>
 
2013-01-20 10:03:12 AM  
It cost nothing to make and will probably do really well on home video.
 
2013-01-20 10:07:35 AM  
I dont want to see Sherriff Arnold. I want to see enemies crushed and/or fleeing, and hear some farking lamentation. Do you know what I am saying?
 
2013-01-20 10:09:04 AM  

Crewmannumber6: chuggernaught: From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age.

The it was marketed poorly. It looks bad, but still not as bad as Parker. What kind of retard wants to see that after it's ads>


Huh. Jason Statham as a badass. Hot chick, partially dressed, probably more than once. Statham kicks ass, gets revenge on people stealing his cut.

Verdict: Maybe Netflix. Or, I just watch a better Statham vehicle, like Snatch.
 
2013-01-20 10:11:32 AM  

Subdue their bellies: I dont want to see Sherriff Arnold. I want to see enemies crushed and/or fleeing, and hear some farking lamentation. Do you know what I am saying?


Nice fresh spin on an old meme
 
2013-01-20 10:11:53 AM  

coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!


Dumb movies like that make a lot of money overseas. I'm convinced that Hollywood often gives the green on movie projects with international box office receipts in mind.
 
2013-01-20 10:15:28 AM  

coco ebert: Dumb movies like that make a lot of money overseas. I'm convinced that Hollywood often gives the green on movie projects with international box office receipts in mind.


Waterworld ended up making money after the international box office was figured in. I wonder how much Gweneth Paltrow's flung feces made in the end, the one that made $24 its opening weekend?
 
2013-01-20 10:18:23 AM  

EnviroDude: There was so much potential for the lil' old grandmother and her lines. It could have been epic.


Does she rap? I'll see it if she raps.

jimzdat: I guess as long as you view it as a "action-comedy" and not a serious flick, you may not be too disappointed.


At least I'm warned. I hate it when I go in thinking it's a straight film and turns out to be a comedy. See also Hudson Hawk and The Fifth Element, the latter I ended up liking but the goofiness was jarring.

/multipass

Anyway, movies like these do better overseas but that's deceiving because of taxes and stuff, the studios wind up not seeing as much as is reported. You could have an entire bachelor's degree on movie math and still not understand it all.
 
2013-01-20 10:19:20 AM  

coco ebert: coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!

Dumb movies like that make a lot of money overseas. I'm convinced that Hollywood often gives the green on movie projects with international box office receipts in mind.


I agree that they do that, and that may happen, but 10th place opening in the US for a moderately marketed movie (i.e., they spent a fair amount to market it), I don't think bodes well for anything resembling a profit.
 
2013-01-20 10:20:31 AM  
I'm noticing a lot of aging actors doing action movies- Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. I wonder if studios are consciously trying to reach out to baby boomers and it's failing or if these guys are just institutions that are able to get what movie they want produced regardless of age.
 
2013-01-20 10:21:30 AM  

Mugato: Anyway, movies like these do better overseas but that's deceiving because of taxes and stuff, the studios wind up not seeing as much as is reported. You could have an entire bachelor's degree on movie math and still not understand it all.


I think that's mostly to hide the profits from the actors with money relying on the back end.
 
2013-01-20 10:23:39 AM  

coco ebert: I'm noticing a lot of aging actors doing action movies- Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. I wonder if studios are consciously trying to reach out to baby boomers and it's failing or if these guys are just institutions that are able to get what movie they want produced regardless of age.


That's part of it I'm sure. I know I don't consider Shia LeDouche, James Franco and Ryan Gosling suitable replacements
 
2013-01-20 10:26:57 AM  

Crewmannumber6: coco ebert: I'm noticing a lot of aging actors doing action movies- Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. I wonder if studios are consciously trying to reach out to baby boomers and it's failing or if these guys are just institutions that are able to get what movie they want produced regardless of age.

That's part of it I'm sure. I know I don't consider Shia LeDouche, James Franco and Ryan Gosling suitable replacements


Yeah, they're not replacements, but Channing Tatum, Taylor Kitsch, and Sam Worthington probably are, though of those three, I think only Channing Tatum has the charm of the old guard action stars.
 
2013-01-20 10:29:45 AM  

Subdue their bellies: I dont want to see Sherriff Arnold. I want to see enemies crushed and/or fleeing, and hear some farking lamentation. Do you know what I am saying?


I always thought it was lamination. This completely changes the power of that line.
 
2013-01-20 10:32:54 AM  
Obviously, people don't much want to see an action hero of yesteryear making self-deprecating old people jokes for an hour and a half.  His action movie days are over. Now might be a good time for him to consider going into politics.
 
2013-01-20 10:36:53 AM  

thamike: Obviously, people don't much want to see an action hero of yesteryear making self-deprecating old people jokes for an hour and a half.  His action movie days are over. Now might be a good time for him to consider going into politics.


Or perhaps some sort of sport.
 
2013-01-20 10:40:30 AM  
Im kind of disappointed The Last Stand is only getting middling reviews.The guy who directed it is a fantastic director.

I Saw The Devil is one of the best movies Ive ever seen.
 
2013-01-20 10:47:41 AM  

born_yesterday: WhippingBoy: I watched "Commando" again a few weeks ago. I remembered it being a great movie.

/It's a steaming pile of turd

Let off some STEAM, WhippingBoy!

/Chainmail?


It was the 80's. A tumultuous time, where the badasses wore chain mail dickies.
 
2013-01-20 11:06:42 AM  

BalugaJoe: Johnny Knoxville is just horrible.


You've never seen the Ringer?
 
2013-01-20 11:44:15 AM  

coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!


Those numbers you pulled out of your ass represent Math?

This, mon frier, is how you get a job as an accountant for major studios. Keep up the great horrible.
 
2013-01-20 11:45:23 AM  

the_rhino: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

The butthurt is strong with this one.


I hate you. I took time out of my day to announce that I hate you. Because you said that thing that people say on the internet when they don't have anything to farking say.

(P.S. I hate you)
 
2013-01-20 11:48:56 AM  

WhippingBoy: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Yep. Nothing says "success" like "Straight to Video"


Hey, Subby. Do you even understand the words you're saying? Do you know what "STRAIGHT to VIDEO" means? You've completely forfeited your place in the discussion by saying something that's demonstrably false.

Which is too bad, because my real point was an irritation with those who would presume to understand a financial situation that's SO far from being understood. Because of the factors I listed, success or failure is years from being determined. And those years only contribute to an inevitable baseline of "made money."

The fact that you still attempted a half-assed sarcastic "success" shows just how much you're missing the point.
 
2013-01-20 11:50:49 AM  
The previews make The Last Stand look dumb enough that 'I might watch it through Netflix, but not at a theater.
 
2013-01-20 12:00:43 PM  
I saw it yesterday. It's a fun time.

I was also one of about 20 people in the audience, and the only one laughing at the one-liners.

I've missed Arnold. I'm glad he's back in a leading role and not a supporting role a la Expendables. The world of movies is a better place with him being in it.
 
2013-01-20 12:01:38 PM  
isn't the hollywood business model, american box office pays for the film and marketing and the rest of the world and dvd is profit?
 
2013-01-20 12:03:33 PM  
It was okay. If you're up for a movie where people shoot each other, I'd probably recommend seeing Django instead. Even if you've already seen Django once.
 
2013-01-20 12:13:48 PM  
Kind of interested in broken city, but no one I know has seen it. Any farker recommendations?
 
2013-01-20 12:13:49 PM  

sidcart42: WhippingBoy: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Yep. Nothing says "success" like "Straight to Video"

Hey, Subby. Do you even understand the words you're saying? Do you know what "STRAIGHT to VIDEO" means? You've completely forfeited your place in the discussion by saying something that's demonstrably false.

Which is too bad, because my real point was an irritation with those who would presume to understand a financial situation that's SO far from being understood. Because of the factors I listed, success or failure is years from being determined. And those years only contribute to an inevitable baseline of "made money."

The fact that you still attempted a half-assed sarcastic "success" shows just how much you're missing the point.


Worst. Movie. Ever.
 
2013-01-20 12:21:28 PM  

coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!



You failed to take into account the action figure merchandising and you forgot to carry the one...
 
2013-01-20 12:30:47 PM  

sidcart42: coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!

Those numbers you pulled out of your ass represent Math?

This, mon frier, is how you get a job as an accountant for major studios. Keep up the great horrible.


Numbers based on considerable experience. MLK weekend is not exactly going to bring in the bucks, historically. Do you think The Last Stand is going to make more than 10 million? And yes, the 40-60% drop off is typical. The marketing costs are typical. The 6 week run time is typical. The budget was pulled from wikipedia.

What part of these numbers were pulled from my ass? The part that invalidates your butthurt (which in fact, would be the numbers in their entirety)?
 
2013-01-20 12:33:24 PM  
I really really really think that Ahnuld needs to get serious and finally make Conan The King before he gets too old to pull it off.

Or do you think it's already too late?

It could have been a true epic...
 
2013-01-20 12:34:24 PM  
I'm liking the punk/Goth version of Jessica Chastain.
 
2013-01-20 12:36:02 PM  
I enjoyed the hell out of it.

There. I said it, and I'd say it again if I had to.


Trollin4Colon: Im kind of disappointed The Last Stand is only getting middling reviews.The guy who directed it is a fantastic director.


YES.

The Good, the Bad, the Weird is ridiculously awesome.

I can see a lot of the Weird character in Johnny Knoxville's performance here, and that's not by accident.
 
2013-01-20 12:37:30 PM  

coeyagi: sidcart42: coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!

Those numbers you pulled out of your ass represent Math?

This, mon frier, is how you get a job as an accountant for major studios. Keep up the great horrible.

Numbers based on considerable experience. MLK weekend is not exactly going to bring in the bucks, historically. Do you think The Last Stand is going to make more than 10 million? And yes, the 40-60% drop off is typical. The marketing costs are typical. The 6 week run time is typical. The budget was pulled from wikipedia.

What part of these numbers were pulled from my ass? The part that invalidates your butthurt (which in fact, would be the numbers in their entirety)?


Is it not getting an international release?
 
2013-01-20 12:41:33 PM  

Carth: coeyagi: sidcart42: coeyagi: sidcart42: It's Sunday morning.

Time for the people who willfully ignore the current climate of International/DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/Television/Amazon/iTunes/Basic Budget Analysis to gleefully declare something a failure.


Good validating, Subby. You're tougher than Arnold!

Facepalm. The budget is between 30-45 million according to wikipedia, which seems like it would be easy to recoup. But that doesn't take into account the marketing costs, which sometimes doubles the budget. So, let's say 80 million. This film will be 10th place this weekend. IN ITS OPENING WEEKEND. I am guessing that it will not make 10 million this weekend, it will probably make 8 million or less. The second weekend, you can expect between a 40-60% decline in revenue, and the same for the next 4 weeks after that. 8 + (8x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) + (8x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4x0.4) = 8 + 3.2 + 1.28 + 0.512 + 0.2048 + 0.08192 = about 13.3 million, in its entire theatrical run. Let's say my math is off by 50%, that is still only about 20 million. Do you think that the rental / purchase market is going to recoup 60 million dollars?

Oh SH*T! Math strikes again!

Those numbers you pulled out of your ass represent Math?

This, mon frier, is how you get a job as an accountant for major studios. Keep up the great horrible.

Numbers based on considerable experience. MLK weekend is not exactly going to bring in the bucks, historically. Do you think The Last Stand is going to make more than 10 million? And yes, the 40-60% drop off is typical. The marketing costs are typical. The 6 week run time is typical. The budget was pulled from wikipedia.

What part of these numbers were pulled from my ass? The part that invalidates your butthurt (which in fact, would be the numbers in their entirety)?

Is it not getting an international release?


It is, and I neglected to mention that, but what I did present were not numbers pulled out of my ass. Even with international release, I have serious doubts if it will make money.
 
2013-01-20 12:44:46 PM  
The Sports tab has armchair coaches and front office GMs who squabble over this silliest insignificant sh*t (of which I am as guilty as anybody.) I find it entertaining that this tab has pissing contests between armchair movie executives.

Is there a fantasy league of any kind?
 
2013-01-20 12:46:11 PM  

coeyagi:

It is, and I neglected to mention that, but what I did present were not numbers pulled out of m ...


I figure Serenity made money off a 40 million production budget and only 25 million domestic gross. Last Stand won't be a huge hit but the studios are pretty good about making back their investment through TV licensing deals and home media.
 
2013-01-20 12:46:53 PM  

Smell the Glove: The Sports tab has armchair coaches and front office GMs who squabble over this silliest insignificant sh*t (of which I am as guilty as anybody.) I find it entertaining that this tab has pissing contests between armchair movie executives.

Is there a fantasy league of any kind?


Yes there is. Link
 
2013-01-20 12:49:53 PM  

Carth: Smell the Glove: The Sports tab has armchair coaches and front office GMs who squabble over this silliest insignificant sh*t (of which I am as guilty as anybody.) I find it entertaining that this tab has pissing contests between armchair movie executives.

Is there a fantasy league of any kind?

Yes there is. Link


Ha! That's outstanding
 
2013-01-20 12:50:47 PM  

coco ebert: I'm noticing a lot of aging actors doing action movies- Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. I wonder if studios are consciously trying to reach out to baby boomers and it's failing or if these guys are just institutions that are able to get what movie they want produced regardless of age.



I'm sure the reasoning is actually quite simple. Each of those old action stars is a "brand" that the movie industry essentially owns as an asset. They paid for the creation of the brands many years ago and now they are trying to milk every last penny they can from them while they can.
 
2013-01-20 12:59:55 PM  

Smell the Glove: armchair movie executives


That's... amazingly accurate, actually.
 
2013-01-20 01:06:44 PM  

bborchar: Kind of interested in broken city, but no one I know has seen it. Any farker recommendations?


The more I learn about what a POS Marky Mark was in his youth, the less I want to see his movies. That may not be fair, but there it is.
 
2013-01-20 01:07:50 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Smell the Glove: armchair movie executives

That's... amazingly accurate, actually.


What's amazing is that it came from me.
 
2013-01-20 01:14:09 PM  

Crewmannumber6: chuggernaught: From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age.

The it was marketed poorly. It looks bad, but still not as bad as Parker Point Blank/Payback. What kind of retard wants to see that after it's ads>

 
2013-01-20 01:34:26 PM  
Saw Beasts of the Southern Wild on re-release. It was utterly depressing. Good, but utterly depressing.
 
2013-01-20 01:38:50 PM  

Smelly McUgly: Saw Beasts of the Southern Wild on re-release. It was utterly depressing. Good, but utterly depressing.


Worthy of all the Oscar nominations it received, would you say?
 
2013-01-20 02:28:19 PM  
Meanwhile, Lou Ferrigno (2012) still looks badass.
cupofzup.com
 
2013-01-20 03:00:26 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Smelly McUgly: Saw Beasts of the Southern Wild on re-release. It was utterly depressing. Good, but utterly depressing.

Worthy of all the Oscar nominations it received, would you say?


I think so, but I also think that it was a weak year. In a stronger year, maybe not.

I do think that the gentleman that played the father deserved a BSA nod. Certainly, that category is extremely weak this year and not for a lack of performances. I love Alan Arkin and I really enjoyed Argo, for example, but I don't really see why Arkin got a nod for his part in that movie.
 
2013-01-20 03:03:03 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Meanwhile, Lou Ferrigno (2012) still looks badass.
[cupofzup.com image 850x548]


People have told him he's supposed to slow down at his age but he won't listen to them.
 
2013-01-20 03:07:18 PM  

Smell the Glove: What's amazing is that it came from me.


I wouldn't say THAT, now.

Credit where it's due, etc.


Smelly McUgly: I think so, but I also think that it was a weak year. In a stronger year, maybe not.


Hmmm... interesting. I ask because it's not playing anywhere around here, and I just wanted some more perspective on that.

Thanks!


Smelly McUgly: I do think that the gentleman that played the father deserved a BSA nod. Certainly, that category is extremely weak this year and not for a lack of performances. I love Alan Arkin and I really enjoyed Argo, for example, but I don't really see why Arkin got a nod for his part in that movie.


Yeah, it's kind of a boring category this year too, since everyone there is a winner.

And I've heard rumblings about that guy from Beasts of the Southern Wild being a possible Supporting Actor contender, but... not to be, I guess.
 
2013-01-20 03:28:35 PM  
Whether or not it turns a profit, I'd think the perception in Hollywood would be that this movie is a failure. I'm sure Arnie will bounce back with Kindergarten Cop 2 or something soon enough though
 
2013-01-20 03:56:44 PM  

Confabulat: Whether or not it turns a profit, I'd think the perception in Hollywood would be that this movie is a failure. I'm sure Arnie will bounce back with Kindergarten Cop 2 or something soon enough though


Jingle All The Way 2: Jingle All The Wayer.
 
2013-01-20 03:57:40 PM  

mongbiohazard: coco ebert: I'm noticing a lot of aging actors doing action movies- Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. I wonder if studios are consciously trying to reach out to baby boomers and it's failing or if these guys are just institutions that are able to get what movie they want produced regardless of age.


I'm sure the reasoning is actually quite simple. Each of those old action stars is a "brand" that the movie industry essentially owns as an asset. They paid for the creation of the brands many years ago and now they are trying to milk every last penny they can from them while they can.


THAT'S A BINGO!
 
2013-01-20 04:31:41 PM  

chuggernaught: I would see it. From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age. Plus Luis Guzman's in it.


He is one of the few that I will watch any flick he is in, type of actor.
 
2013-01-20 05:10:32 PM  

Smell the Glove: indarwinsshadow: Meanwhile, Lou Ferrigno (2012) still looks badass.
[cupofzup.com image 850x548]

People have told him he's supposed to slow down at his age but he won't listen to them.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-01-20 05:54:20 PM  
And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.
 
2013-01-20 06:00:18 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Meanwhile, Lou Ferrigno (2012) still looks badass.
[cupofzup.com image 850x548]


Holy crap, good for him. I had seen him a couple of times at Comic Con (where he had a booth set up with absolutely no one going over to see him) and he really wasn't looking all that great. Looks like he may have turned things around. (Do we have Trump to thank for this? God help us if we do.)
 
2013-01-20 06:14:59 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: chuggernaught: I would see it. From what I understand it's written as kind of a spoof of Ahnahld's age. Plus Luis Guzman's in it.

He is one of the few that I will watch any flick he is in, type of actor.


Luis Guzman is a lot of fun in this movie, I would say.


Fano: And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.


I still want to see that so I can weigh in on THAT discussion.
 
2013-01-20 06:24:38 PM  

Fano: And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.


Spoiler alert

I think it would have been a neat little movie without Jennifer Lawrence in the role. She's a great actor but wrong for the role. Also, I could have done without the Hollywood ending, but overall I thought it was funny and everyone was great in their roles. In particular De Niro was wonderful. I was just so happy to see him in something non-crappy and without phoning it in.
 
2013-01-20 06:55:10 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The Good, the Bad, the Weird is ridiculously awesome.


It's the same director? I love that movie.
 
2013-01-20 07:04:43 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: It's the same director? I love that movie.


The very same one, Kim Ji-woon!

More people need to see The Good, the Bad, the Weird. VERY good stuff, that.
 
2013-01-20 08:36:54 PM  

Fano: And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.


I watched it last night. Good, but not Oscar good. It didn't really offer anything new, but the performances were pretty good.
 
2013-01-20 10:30:26 PM  

NotEric: indarwinsshadow: Meanwhile, Lou Ferrigno (2012) still looks badass.
[cupofzup.com image 850x548]

Holy crap, good for him. I had seen him a couple of times at Comic Con (where he had a booth set up with absolutely no one going over to see him) and he really wasn't looking all that great. Looks like he may have turned things around. (Do we have Trump to thank for this? God help us if we do.)


Donald Trump can't even comb his hair properly. So he's hardly likely to have anything to do with anyone else looking good.
 
2013-01-20 11:46:39 PM  

coeyagi: Fano: And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.

I watched it last night. Good, but not Oscar good. It didn't really offer anything new, but the performances were pretty good.


I'll amend my statement a bit: it actually Was a decent movie. Just nothing to get critical praise or Oscar nods. The plot was serviceable but would have been at home in Bollywood.

I would have enjoyed perhaps the psychiatrist talking to de niro, and can we retire having mental disorders cured by the love of a manic pixie dream girl?
 
2013-01-21 02:49:27 AM  
People are claiming this is a spoof or an action-comedy? I didn't get that at all from the marketibg.
 
2013-01-21 05:23:39 AM  

Fano: coeyagi: Fano: And the mystery of why Silver Lining Playbook is considered good goes on.

I watched it last night. Good, but not Oscar good. It didn't really offer anything new, but the performances were pretty good.

I'll amend my statement a bit: it actually Was a decent movie. Just nothing to get critical praise or Oscar nods. The plot was serviceable but would have been at home in Bollywood.

I would have enjoyed perhaps the psychiatrist talking to de niro, and can we retire having mental disorders cured by the love of a manic pixie dream girl?


I was really enjoying the movie until the the ending. It went from "this is an interesting movie" to "this is just like every other movie"
 
2013-01-21 05:28:05 AM  

EbolaNYC: People are claiming this is a spoof or an action-comedy? I didn't get that at all from the marketibg.


Ha!
 
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