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2013-01-20 12:25:50 AM  
No one in that picture is riding a rascal so I don't think that picture was really DisneyWorld

Also, we didn't have as bad of an obesity problem when Wonders of Life was still around. Bring it back Epcot, bring it back.

/though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride
 
2013-01-20 02:11:07 AM  
It's good that unhealthy habits are no longer portrayed as a problem only of fat kids.  Fit kids shouldn't think "Cheetos only make fat kids fat."

But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?
 
2013-01-20 02:16:10 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's good that unhealthy habits are no longer portrayed as a problem only of fat kids.  Fit kids shouldn't think "Cheetos only make fat kids fat."

But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


We're here! We're huge! Get around it!
 
2013-01-20 02:48:49 AM  
TheManofPA:  /though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride

Horizons was great, I miss it too.

I'm starting to wish there was some kind of retro/preserved Disney that kept the old rides as they were. Was on Pirates of the Caribbean recently for the first time in years and freakin Johnny Depp pops up throughout it, as do sounds and music from the movie (which I haven't even seen). Completely ruined it for me.

The Carousel of Progress is kind of fun in that way, though, as is the Hall of Presidents. The older hokey parts of those are still there, they just add on.
 
2013-01-20 03:32:45 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


 For a tense few seconds I couldn't decide whether to lol or punch my screen after reading that. Eventually I took the lol option.
 
2013-01-20 04:06:58 AM  
I happen to be the founder of the National
Association to Advance Fat
Acceptance Acceptance League. So there.
 
2013-01-20 04:07:06 AM  

ohnonotfloridaagain: TheManofPA:  /though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride

Horizons was great, I miss it too.

I'm starting to wish there was some kind of retro/preserved Disney that kept the old rides as they were. Was on Pirates of the Caribbean recently for the first time in years and freakin Johnny Depp pops up throughout it, as do sounds and music from the movie (which I haven't even seen). Completely ruined it for me.

The Carousel of Progress is kind of fun in that way, though, as is the Hall of Presidents. The older hokey parts of those are still there, they just add on.


I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
 
2013-01-20 04:07:32 AM  
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2013-01-20 04:24:35 AM  
Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot
 
2013-01-20 04:26:03 AM  

Mock26: I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.


Never have seen the tiki birds, but do also miss 20,000 leagues. Best memory of Mr. Toad was waiting in a long line (2+ hours) for it during spring break with some family, including my BIL, who fumed the entire time and was even more pissed after we got off the ride cause it was short and kinda cheesy (in his opinion). Later when they closed the ride they put parts of it up for auction. I generously offered to buy him something from it, but he vehemently refused. He has still never gotten over that experience  :)
 
2013-01-20 04:26:30 AM  
fat-acceptance proponents said its super-sized cartoon characters were cruel stereotypes and hurtful to larger-sized children.

a scathing statement from the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance

The heavy adolescent who starred in the first edition - as he evolved into a slimmer, fitter teen - also is gone.


God f*cking dammit so much. I just don't have words for this.
 
2013-01-20 04:34:31 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


That is not what my Amurica was founded on! I'm putting on a hoodie and burning calories in fat people's yards!
 
2013-01-20 04:38:29 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's good that unhealthy habits are no longer portrayed as a problem only of fat kids.  Fit kids shouldn't think "Cheetos only make fat kids fat."

But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


Look at America and laugh!
 
2013-01-20 04:41:58 AM  
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Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.
 
2013-01-20 04:46:22 AM  
How dare they say being fat and unhealthy is unhealthy!

Amurica, f*ck yeah!
Now bring me another plate or two of food.
 
2013-01-20 04:49:25 AM  

gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot


Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.
 
2013-01-20 04:50:52 AM  

TheManofPA: No one in that picture is riding a rascal so I don't think that picture was really DisneyWorld


My most vivid Disney memory is the END of the day my wife and I did Epcot -- all of Epcot...every ride, every show -- in a single day. We were there for "rope drop" and thanks to the extended hours for on-site hotel guests we managed to get it done.

Needless to say by the end we were exhausted, and the massive line for the shuttle bus back to our hotel was brutal enough until...an entire family of ham beasts rolled up on a parade of straining rental scooters. There were five of them ranging in ages from teenage to elderly. The elderly woman was the only one who looked like she could really need the scooter, yet she was the slimmest by far --  was kind of like being the member of Aerosmith who did the least heroin in '79.

These shambling land manatees rolled their scooters past the entire line to the "Handicapped" area, where they all dismounted their scooters with enough ease to belie the concept of being actually handicapped with anything more than an unquenchable longing for fried mozzarella.

The next shuttle bus arrived and the Corn Syrup Clan sat by and watched as the bus driver -- a small woman -- was forced to load the scooters into the bus alone. By the time all five scooters were loaded and the human pork rinds climbed aboard that was it. An entire bus -- a bus as large as a city bus -- was full. With a single family and their rental scooters.

I wonder if that family are the ones who complained about this new ride, except it was clear that this family and shame were as well-acquainted as this family and the production of lactic acid.

/Capital Yarn, Old Sod.
 
2013-01-20 05:13:15 AM  
Believe me, they already do subby. I used to be annoyed by that, but now I just feel sorry for them. As irritating as it can be (see fat scooter bus post above) I am happy and grateful that I can still get around under my own power and still manage to drink my way around the world with ease.
 
2013-01-20 05:23:36 AM  
Hh.

Would Mickey's Mousercise be considered hate-speech programming now?
 
2013-01-20 05:40:35 AM  
I just got back from CES where they responded to accusations of sexism last year by rolling out booth babes in thongs and body paint this year. It was incredibly refreshing to see someone stand up to the PC police and feminazis by saying if you're offended please stay away. But I guess this way Disney can say they tried while still selling people 10,000 Calories a day in food.
 
2013-01-20 05:40:45 AM  
I used to work with this HUGE woman. 500 pounds easy. She literally ate a jar of mayonnaise for lunch. fark it was gross.
 
2013-01-20 06:20:16 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: TheManofPA: No one in that picture is riding a rascal so I don't think that picture was really DisneyWorld

My most vivid Disney memory is the END of the day my wife and I did Epcot -- all of Epcot...every ride, every show -- in a single day. We were there for "rope drop" and thanks to the extended hours for on-site hotel guests we managed to get it done.

Needless to say by the end we were exhausted, and the massive line for the shuttle bus back to our hotel was brutal enough until...an entire family of ham beasts rolled up on a parade of straining rental scooters. There were five of them ranging in ages from teenage to elderly. The elderly woman was the only one who looked like she could really need the scooter, yet she was the slimmest by far --  was kind of like being the member of Aerosmith who did the least heroin in '79.

These shambling land manatees rolled their scooters past the entire line to the "Handicapped" area, where they all dismounted their scooters with enough ease to belie the concept of being actually handicapped with anything more than an unquenchable longing for fried mozzarella.

The next shuttle bus arrived and the Corn Syrup Clan sat by and watched as the bus driver -- a small woman -- was forced to load the scooters into the bus alone. By the time all five scooters were loaded and the human pork rinds climbed aboard that was it. An entire bus -- a bus as large as a city bus -- was full. With a single family and their rental scooters.

I wonder if that family are the ones who complained about this new ride, except it was clear that this family and shame were as well-acquainted as this family and the production of lactic acid.

/Capital Yarn, Old Sod.


Well done, sir. Well done.
 
2013-01-20 06:21:38 AM  

ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.


Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.
 
2013-01-20 06:23:35 AM  
I've never seen so many fat fatties in the world as when I went to disney world

I saw fat parents pushing around their fat 9 year old kids in fat kiddie carts. seriously. 9 year olds. fat 9 year olds

if I had the money I'd scour to globe to find some backwards cannibal tribe out of some jungle just to send them to Disney World and they really would be in their Magic Kingdom.

tasty.
 
2013-01-20 06:23:53 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's good that unhealthy habits are no longer portrayed as a problem only of fat kids.  Fit kids shouldn't think "Cheetos only make fat kids fat."

But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


It makes the whole story sound like a satire of some kind.
 
2013-01-20 06:24:03 AM  

arghyematey: ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.

Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.


"real Orlando" ... lol

Sorry, nothing personal, but that made me LOL
 
2013-01-20 06:33:11 AM  

SDRR: arghyematey: ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.

Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.

"real Orlando" ... lol

Sorry, nothing personal, but that made me LOL

I can understand this reflex...

But it's true, there is more to Orlando than Disney. Winter Park, College Park, and downtown especially all have some really great local businesses. Another favorite spot is Redlight Redlight- it is a serious beer bar, the best one that I've ever been to... and another good reason to get out of the touristy part of town.
 
2013-01-20 06:39:48 AM  
We went recently (thanksgiving 2012) and were amazed and disgusted at the scooter crowd. One of them ran over my heels, it was blindingly painful. I accidentally threw an elbow and caught her in the nose when she didn't even slow down or stop. Land manatees is accurate.

On another note, Artist Point is mostly bland but I found their buffalo steak with some sort of vegetable topping was really good. We also ate at the Brown derby and that just plain kicked ass. Loved it.
 
2013-01-20 06:40:51 AM  
I'm not the only one who loves Redlight Redlight. They have an especially awesome draft selection.
 
2013-01-20 07:04:48 AM  

TV's Vinnie: [farm1.staticflickr.com image 638x1024]
Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.


I was there yesterday. I lost weight dodging around folks.
 
2013-01-20 07:17:58 AM  

ModernLuddite: I used to work with this HUGE woman. 500 pounds easy. She literally ate a jar of mayonnaise for lunch. fark it was gross.


Did you catch her TotalFark handle?
 
2013-01-20 07:18:40 AM  
fark'em. Disney should have left the movie as is. People biatch about illegal immigrants flooding ER's and driving up the cost of healthcare. It's these blobs of American fat that increase the cost of healthcare. Diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, kidney failure. Hell, their sugary diets and the resulting dental care is expensive. Lose some goddamn weight already.
You choose to be fat, and I choose to be disgusted by the sight of you.
 
2013-01-20 07:28:36 AM  
Don't forget the German place in downtown Sanford. I know that isn't Orlando proper but close enough. Awesome food and awesomer beer!
 
2013-01-20 07:32:57 AM  
pixti.me
 
2013-01-20 07:38:16 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: [pixti.me image 700x500]


How Wall-E esque.

I wonder if Disney will give that "The Song of the South" treatment now?
 
2013-01-20 07:38:17 AM  
I'm going to Disney World with the family for the first time ever this week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Day 1 today: Magic Kingdom
 
2013-01-20 07:42:23 AM  

SDRR: Believe me, they already do subby. I used to be annoyed by that, but now I just feel sorry for them. As irritating as it can be (see fat scooter bus post above) I am happy and grateful that I can still get around under my own power and still manage to drink my way around the world with ease.


Same here. I actually had the same thought when I saw the picture of the block of cheese Rascal girl. You know, the one with the cheezits for backup. I am horrified when I imagine what it must me like to live in a prison of your own making. The cycle of self-loathing and binge eating. Being trapped in your own farking Skinner box. The pity for the Rascal crowd is almost strong enough to forgive whatever ugliness they may have as human beings. They will never have a normal life. Their organs have been damaged to the point that they can't "just exercise", and any diet that resulted in appreciable weight loss would be life threatening. And they have to live with the fact, every moment of every day, that they did it to themselves.
 
2013-01-20 07:48:54 AM  

ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.


Good luck with that...
 
2013-01-20 07:55:55 AM  

DrVoice: I'm going to Disney World with the family for the first time ever this week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Day 1 today: Magic Kingdom


Ha, cool! We were just EPCOT yesterday. Missed the game, but saw a bunch of fat people.

Magic Kingdom though: unfortunately, Splash Mountain is closed, but I think everything else is open. Watch out in fantasyland, it's basically a huge stroller parking area.

My best tip for you: get fast passes for anything that is less than 2 hours away. When you get one, they make you wait 2 hours or until the fast pass is good before you can get another one, so you can get a lot more that way. Get the Disney Mobile Magic app too, you can check the FastPass times on it.

Good luck!
 
2013-01-20 07:58:52 AM  

arghyematey: SDRR: arghyematey: ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.

Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.

"real Orlando" ... lol

Sorry, nothing personal, but that made me LOL
I can understand this reflex...

But it's true, there is more to Orlando than Disney. Winter Park, College Park, and downtown especially all have some really great local businesses. Another favorite spot is Redlight Redlight- it is a serious beer bar, the best one that I've ever been to... and another good reason to get out of the touristy part of town.


We are fortunate to have friends that live in Orlando. They know some great restaurants. My husband dreams about the Ravenous Pig. Winter Park Farmers Market is wonderful, too.
 
2013-01-20 08:16:32 AM  

ohnonotfloridaagain: Mock26: I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Never have seen the tiki birds, but do also miss 20,000 leagues. Best memory of Mr. Toad was waiting in a long line (2+ hours) for it during spring break with some family, including my BIL, who fumed the entire time and was even more pissed after we got off the ride cause it was short and kinda cheesy (in his opinion). Later when they closed the ride they put parts of it up for auction. I generously offered to buy him something from it, but he vehemently refused. He has still never gotten over that experience  :)


I am still trying to come to grips with the after effects of It's A Small World.
 
2013-01-20 08:21:27 AM  

DrVoice: I'm going to Disney World with the family for the first time ever this week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Day 1 today: Magic Kingdom


If you go to the Animal Kingdom, get one of those Pineapple ice cream float thingies.
 
2013-01-20 08:23:55 AM  

Mr. Holmes: DrVoice: I'm going to Disney World with the family for the first time ever this week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Day 1 today: Magic Kingdom

Ha, cool! We were just EPCOT yesterday. Missed the game, but saw a bunch of fat people.

Magic Kingdom though: unfortunately, Splash Mountain is closed, but I think everything else is open. Watch out in fantasyland, it's basically a huge stroller parking area.

My best tip for you: get fast passes for anything that is less than 2 hours away. When you get one, they make you wait 2 hours or until the fast pass is good before you can get another one, so you can get a lot more that way. Get the Disney Mobile Magic app too, you can check the FastPass times on it.

Good luck!


Considering the subject, I read that as FatPass. To limit the weight the ride will have to endure...
 
2013-01-20 08:27:51 AM  
They are re-redoing the tiki room. The "new" version with that Gilbert Godfried voiced abomination had to go.
 
2013-01-20 08:36:00 AM  
I'll reiterate what others have posted above. Orlando is a great place to live as long as you avoid the southwest quadrant (the tourist area). I've lived here for 45 years and remember visiting Disney before the Magic Kingdom was even open. We just saw a presentation of what it was going to be. We went many times as I was growing up and I even worked there one summer when I was 16. I haven't been back since and only travel in that direction when my work calls.

The advantages of living in a city fed by tourist dollars is fantastic. And if you can't make a decent living here then you probably can't make it anywhere. I've considered moving many times but never could find an area with such a large target market for my business. I've been around the country a couple times and will travel more in the future, but I'll always come home to Seminole County.
 
2013-01-20 08:43:40 AM  

Mock26: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheManofPA:  /though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride

Horizons was great, I miss it too.

I'm starting to wish there was some kind of retro/preserved Disney that kept the old rides as they were. Was on Pirates of the Caribbean recently for the first time in years and freakin Johnny Depp pops up throughout it, as do sounds and music from the movie (which I haven't even seen). Completely ruined it for me.

The Carousel of Progress is kind of fun in that way, though, as is the Hall of Presidents. The older hokey parts of those are still there, they just add on.

I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.


Disneyland has the original Tiki Room and a Nemo version of the submarine ride. I forget if it has Mr. Toad's Wild Ride still.

Also, you'll like Yesterland's website.
 
2013-01-20 08:49:25 AM  
Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.
 
2013-01-20 08:51:55 AM  

Lershac: We went recently (thanksgiving 2012) and were amazed and disgusted at the scooter crowd. One of them ran over my heels, it was blindingly painful. I accidentally threw an elbow and caught her in the nose when she didn't even slow down or stop. Land manatees is accurate.

On another note, Artist Point is mostly bland but I found their buffalo steak with some sort of vegetable topping was really good. We also ate at the Brown derby and that just plain kicked ass. Loved it.


We were actually pretty disappointed in the Brown Derby.

I think it's partly what you order. They always have some bland options but most places have something good. Jiko and Whisperong Canyon Cafe especially. Had bourbon (or whiskey,I forget) glazed trout (or something) over an arugula salad that was pretty great.

Not sure it's worth the prices but not an issue if you go when the hotels include free dining. Then it's only the price of the tip.
 
2013-01-20 09:01:11 AM  

Lershac: We went recently (thanksgiving 2012) and were amazed and disgusted at the scooter crowd. One of them ran over my heels, it was blindingly painful. I accidentally threw an elbow and caught her in the nose when she didn't even slow down or stop. Land manatees is accurate.


That was my experience a few years back. Had a good time, but the scooter people were out of control.

Angry scooter lady:
http://youtu.be/KjSwL-9Bzf8
 
2013-01-20 09:01:43 AM  

born_yesterday: SDRR: Believe me, they already do subby. I used to be annoyed by that, but now I just feel sorry for them. As irritating as it can be (see fat scooter bus post above) I am happy and grateful that I can still get around under my own power and still manage to drink my way around the world with ease.

Same here. I actually had the same thought when I saw the picture of the block of cheese Rascal girl. You know, the one with the cheezits for backup. I am horrified when I imagine what it must me like to live in a prison of your own making. The cycle of self-loathing and binge eating. Being trapped in your own farking Skinner box. The pity for the Rascal crowd is almost strong enough to forgive whatever ugliness they may have as human beings. They will never have a normal life. Their organs have been damaged to the point that they can't "just exercise", and any diet that resulted in appreciable weight loss would be life threatening. And they have to live with the fact, every moment of every day, that they did it to themselves.


Not true. The protein-sparing modified fast popular with body builders was actually developed for fast weight loss to treat obesity (intended for fast weight loss to help obesity-related health issue and make it easier to reach a maintenance weight without getting too discouraged) and is perfectly safe with medical supervision. Unfortunately most doctors are totally oblivious about nutrition and still hand out food pyramids as a diet suggestion, which suggests a farkton of carbs. Which is a terrible way to try and lose weight.

It is true that exercise is far more complicated with severe obesity. To all the assholes here, though, that doesn't mean the people are just lazy or even inactive. My mother does all the gardening and yard work by herself and can pretty much keep up with our Disney pace, which my very fit boyfriend described as being like we're going into battle. No disability passes, no scooter. Just good walking shoes, stubbornness, and being humiliated by assholes like you guys sayin something if she asks for any help at all.

/she probably eats healthier than most Farkers
//great at dieting too, just difficult when you have that much to lose and try to do it in a typical calorie-counting slow pace since any interruption can make you gain back what it takes a month to lose
///her terribad doctor is also hardcore against diet meds but not weightloss surgery. Advice like that should be considered medical malpractice IMO
 
2013-01-20 09:04:18 AM  

arghyematey:
I can understand this reflex...

But it's true, there is more to Orlando than Disney. Winter Park, College Park, and downtown especially all have some really great local businesses. Another favorite spot is Redlight Redlight- it is a serious beer bar, the best one that I've ever been to... and another good reason to get out of the touristy part of town.


Shhh, don't tell them these things. Keep them on I-Drive and make sure they think that's all there is -- besides the airport and a sub shop on OBT that I like to send rude Brits to when they ask. ;)

/next time you're in town try Cask & Larder -- it's the new restaurant from the owners of Ravenous Pig
 
2013-01-20 09:19:47 AM  
I went to Disney in the 80s and we brought my grandmother with us. She could walk around the house but couldn't do Disney amounts of walking. We rented a wheelchair, and were the only ones using the handicapped lines. It really was handy because we never had to wait.

I think that was the visit where all they offered to eat were hamburgers.
 
2013-01-20 09:24:05 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's good that unhealthy habits are no longer portrayed as a problem only of fat kids.  Fit kids shouldn't think "Cheetos only make fat kids fat."

But seriously:  a National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?


If you really want to lose faith in humanity, Google it and read some of the jaw-dropping nonsense they espouse. Also try "Intuitive Eating"... a reasonable concept (if you "disallow" highly processed foods) but one that has been bastardized by fatties to mean "if I'm craving three buckets of KFC, I should eat three buckets of KFC because my body is telling me to and it knows best"
 
2013-01-20 09:36:16 AM  
Am I in before Brisby dome?
 
2013-01-20 09:58:14 AM  
Consume a lot of corn syrup? Regularly enjoy large helpings of starchy foods, or ones rich in salt or sugar? Keep it up!
 
GBB
2013-01-20 10:01:29 AM  

SDRR: arghyematey: ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.

Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.

"real Orlando" ... lol

Sorry, nothing personal, but that made me LOL


Yeah. If you want to experience the "real" Orlando, try Bithlo. That's as close as you can possibly get to the "real" Orlando, Pre-Disney.
 
2013-01-20 10:04:14 AM  

OscarTamerz: I just got back from CES where they responded to accusations of sexism last year by rolling out booth babes in thongs and body paint this year. It was incredibly refreshing to see someone stand up to the PC police and feminazis by saying if you're offended please stay away. But I guess this way Disney can say they tried while still selling people 10,000 Calories a day in food.


Derp-like typing detected.
 
2013-01-20 10:07:58 AM  
The only disney world food that I found to be good was Ragland road in downtown disney. All the other food was just kinda meh. The counter service at morocco in epcot was pretty tasty as well.
 
2013-01-20 10:11:49 AM  

MaxSupernova: The only disney world food that I found to be good was Ragland road in downtown disney. All the other food was just kinda meh. The counter service at morocco in epcot was pretty tasty as well.


I can tell how hard you tried to find the good food if you stopped with that tasty Irish food. *cough*
 
2013-01-20 10:19:25 AM  
I really miss the Bear Country Jamboree
 
2013-01-20 10:25:44 AM  
Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?
 
2013-01-20 10:30:48 AM  
doloresonthedottedline: Disneyland has the original Tiki Room and a Nemo version of the submarine ride. I forget if it has Mr. Toad's Wild Ride still.

Disneyland still has Mr Toad.

What irks me as much as the scooters is the double-wide strollers. You shuffle through adventureland like a herd of cattle then WHAM! a double-wide coming the opposite direction parting the flow of people like a wedge!
 
2013-01-20 10:31:26 AM  
There's no hate quite like fat hate.
 
2013-01-20 10:33:25 AM  

Epstein's Mother: doloresonthedottedline: Disneyland has the original Tiki Room and a Nemo version of the submarine ride. I forget if it has Mr. Toad's Wild Ride still.

Disneyland still has Mr Toad.

What irks me as much as the scooters is the double-wide strollers. You shuffle through adventureland like a herd of cattle then WHAM! a double-wide coming the opposite direction parting the flow of people like a wedge!


My plan is to buy a triple-wide stroller, stock it with sacks of flour, and then watch the crowds part like the Red Sea as I sanctimoniously shout "Children coming through, please make way. Children!"
 
2013-01-20 10:34:41 AM  

TheManofPA: No one in that picture is riding a rascal so I don't think that picture was really DisneyWorld

Also, we didn't have as bad of an obesity problem when Wonders of Life was still around. Bring it back Epcot, bring it back.

/though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride


If we can dream it, we can do it.

//also loved that ride
 
2013-01-20 10:50:03 AM  

WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?


Hell yes, all the countries have booze, but to really do it right go during the Food and Wine Festival. This year they had 40+ beers from which to choose while you pretend to be a bad American tourist in a dozen fake mini-countries -- and the food IS good then too. You haven't ridden Soarin until you do it after a drinking lap around the lake with longer stays in pseudo-Germany and fake-baked-England.
 
2013-01-20 11:12:35 AM  

Pollexter: WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?

Hell yes, all the countries have booze, but to really do it right go during the Food and Wine Festival. This year they had 40+ beers from which to choose while you pretend to be a bad American tourist in a dozen fake mini-countries -- and the food IS good then too. You haven't ridden Soarin until you do it after a drinking lap around the lake with longer stays in pseudo-Germany and fake-baked-England.


Just to give the people in the thread a headsup to some things they may not have seen:
Outside of Beer:
France, Germany, and Italy have Wine Flights
Mexico has a tequila bar with all different levels (from cheap to pricey) shot flights
Japan has a sake bar with various hot and cold options
I think China has alcoholic tea or something unique
I don't remember anything but beer in Norway/USA
and England has a scotch bar with multiple cheap to expensive Scotch flight options
 
2013-01-20 11:13:17 AM  
Don't lie to me article. I remember what the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance or whatever you farks call yourselves said the when the ride was banned. IT was the fact that the Disney ride stigmatized obesity. They tried to teach healthy choices by showing that teasing was a consequence of being overweight, and its "No, we dont' like that."

Burn, I say.
 
2013-01-20 11:20:59 AM  

MaxSupernova: The only disney world food that I found to be good was Ragland road in downtown disney. All the other food was just kinda meh. The counter service at morocco in epcot was pretty tasty as well.


Sorry, but the fish n chips at that place blows.

As for Disney food in general, it's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. When you consider the number of people they have to feed on a daily basis, the over-the-counter stuff isn't that bad. It's certainly 100x better than the food they were serving in the 70's and 80's.
 
2013-01-20 11:30:05 AM  

jaymanchu: There's no hate quite like fat hate.


Do you mean hate directed at fat people or the hate eminating from fat people themselves?

I've never been to Epcot, but consider a walk down Las Vegas Blvd to be a good barometer of the US obesity nightmare.
 
2013-01-20 11:58:41 AM  
sounds like the worst amusement park attraction ever.

/Country Bears, FTW
 
2013-01-20 12:00:41 PM  
Most people that blindly hate fat people are assholes. But, go right ahead and make fun of the scooter whales at Disney. Most are just lazy slobs. I'm a fatass with a bad back. Know what I do while at Disney? Walk everywhere! I have the teensiest shred of self respect left, so I could never be caught dead in one of those things. And the story about the land whale family up above is 100% accurate. You'll see it all day on their buses. Fat people get out of their scooters and walk to a seat on the bus, and the driver has to hook up their scooters and drive the bus off, while all the regular folks stand around and wait. These people aren't disabled, they're lazy as shiat. I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the people using the scooters actually need them.

Luckily as a fat person, I can yell at them without feeling bad. It's like black people using the N-word.
 
2013-01-20 12:26:12 PM  

Mock26: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheManofPA:  /though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride

Horizons was great, I miss it too.

I'm starting to wish there was some kind of retro/preserved Disney that kept the old rides as they were. Was on Pirates of the Caribbean recently for the first time in years and freakin Johnny Depp pops up throughout it, as do sounds and music from the movie (which I haven't even seen). Completely ruined it for me.

The Carousel of Progress is kind of fun in that way, though, as is the Hall of Presidents. The older hokey parts of those are still there, they just add on.

I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.


They took those out if Orlando? Last I knew both 20k leagues and Toads were still in Anaheim.
/road the toad
 
2013-01-20 12:32:03 PM  

cleveoh: Do you mean hate directed at fat people or the hate eminating from fat people themselves?


Or the hate directed at formerly fat people by fat people? A few years back I was forty lbs overweight. I got tired of looking like a slob and feeling worn out so I decided to do something about it. After losing about ten lbs, everyone started to notice. The fatties at the office at first were all excited... until they asked how I was losing the weight. When I told them by reducing my calorie intake, they got very disappointed. I even offered to show them the software I was using to track calories but they weren't interested. It was "too much trouble". Guess they wanted the answer to be some special formula weight loss pie they could shove in their mouths and have the weight come off without an effort.

When I got to twenty lbs of weight loss, they started telling me I lost too much weight and I should stop. You know, for my health. Never mind that by any fitness standard I was still twenty lbs above the TOP of the healthy weight range. For the next few months they kept at it until they finally decided to just stop talking to me... which was a nice added bonus.

They also got mad when I suggested switching to diet cola or water. "But that stuff doesn't taste good" Face Palm!
 
2013-01-20 12:38:58 PM  

Mock26: I hate the updated Tiki Bird show.


Agreed, though fortunately it was returned to the original (albeit slightly edited) a couple of years back.

gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.


i.imgur.com

MBrady: Most of Disney's counter service food is mediocre at best. There are some good restaurants on property though.


...Okay, I can concede that. Also wish that Epcot's 'Merica pavilion would get rid of fast food in favor of a full-service eatery that serves family-style chicken dinners or something, but I digress.

shotglasss: If you go to the Animal Kingdom, get one of those Pineapple ice cream float thingies.


Ohhhh, Dole Whips. Those things are like fruit orgasms in your mouth (bad phrasing), but they're served at Magic Kingdom and the Polynesian Resort, not Animal Kingdom far as I know. The Polynesian is self-serve for the non-float version, so you can ensure you become a diabetic in one sitting depending on structural integrity.

simrobert2001: Don't lie to me article. I remember what the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance or whatever you farks call yourselves said the when the ride was banned. IT was the fact that the Disney ride stigmatized obesity. They tried to teach healthy choices by showing that teasing was a consequence of being overweight, and its "No, we dont' like that."

Burn, I say.


No need to be setting grease fires, now.
 
2013-01-20 12:40:03 PM  
Following its debut last February, the attraction landed in big trouble when fat-acceptance proponents said its super-sized cartoon characters were cruel stereotypes and hurtful to larger-sized children.

From Disney? Aw, no farking way.

insiderlouisville.com

/I wonder how many people were outraged when they went to see Wall-E, expecting a cute robot movie (like I did), and got a fable about overconsumption instead?
 
2013-01-20 12:58:05 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Most people that blindly hate fat people are assholes. But, go right ahead and make fun of the scooter whales at Disney. Most are just lazy slobs. I'm a fatass with a bad back. Know what I do while at Disney? Walk everywhere! I have the teensiest shred of self respect left, so I could never be caught dead in one of those things. And the story about the land whale family up above is 100% accurate. You'll see it all day on their buses. Fat people get out of their scooters and walk to a seat on the bus, and the driver has to hook up their scooters and drive the bus off, while all the regular folks stand around and wait. These people aren't disabled, they're lazy as shiat. I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the people using the scooters actually need them.

Luckily as a fat person, I can yell at them without feeling bad. It's like black people using the N-word.


Aren't you the lucky one? BTW, i have no hard feelings against you. You actually have dignity.

EngineerAU: cleveoh: Do you mean hate directed at fat people or the hate eminating from fat people themselves?

Or the hate directed at formerly fat people by fat people? A few years back I was forty lbs overweight. I got tired of looking like a slob and feeling worn out so I decided to do something about it. After losing about ten lbs, everyone started to notice. The fatties at the office at first were all excited... until they asked how I was losing the weight. When I told them by reducing my calorie intake, they got very disappointed. I even offered to show them the software I was using to track calories but they weren't interested. It was "too much trouble". Guess they wanted the answer to be some special formula weight loss pie they could shove in their mouths and have the weight come off without an effort.

When I got to twenty lbs of weight loss, they started telling me I lost too much weight and I should stop. You know, for my health. Never mind that by any fitness standard I was still twenty lbs above the TOP of the healthy weight range. For the next few months they kept at it until they finally decided to just stop talking to me... which was a nice added bonus.

They also got mad when I suggested switching to diet cola or water. "But that stuff doesn't taste good" Face Palm!


And this is the problem with America.
 
2013-01-20 01:01:27 PM  

Epstein's Mother: doloresonthedottedline: Disneyland has the original Tiki Room and a Nemo version of the submarine ride. I forget if it has Mr. Toad's Wild Ride still.

Disneyland still has Mr Toad.

What irks me as much as the scooters is the double-wide strollers. You shuffle through adventureland like a herd of cattle then WHAM! a double-wide coming the opposite direction parting the flow of people like a wedge!


Parents with strollers are far worse than scooters. As much as I've been to Disney, I've NEVER had someone try to mow me down with a scooter but parents with strollers just don't move out of the way--they'll play chicken and just flat-out hit you if you don't move out of their way. I've been run over plenty. That and people holding hands--they never seem to let go even if they're going to totally clothesline you. They don't give a fark, they will run you down at Disney. And I'm not even meaning parents who would likely have their kids run off if they let go, I mean young couples. Ugh. Theme parks can bring out the worst in people. Getting behind strollers can help get through the tangle of people after a parade or fireworks though.
 
2013-01-20 01:02:45 PM  

Mock26: ohnonotfloridaagain: TheManofPA:  /though I'd rather have Horizons, I loved that ride

Horizons was great, I miss it too.

I'm starting to wish there was some kind of retro/preserved Disney that kept the old rides as they were. Was on Pirates of the Caribbean recently for the first time in years and freakin Johnny Depp pops up throughout it, as do sounds and music from the movie (which I haven't even seen). Completely ruined it for me.

The Carousel of Progress is kind of fun in that way, though, as is the Hall of Presidents. The older hokey parts of those are still there, they just add on.

I hate the updated Tiki Bird show. I also miss 20,000 Leagues and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.


They apparently changed the Magic Kingdom Tiki Room back to the original show a year or so back after Iago burst ion flames.

I really like the Star Tours update. That one is a textbook example of how to successfully refresh a ride. I especially love how they upped the repeat riding experience by having two different starts for the ride, three different first destinations, and three different final destinations that they can randomly mix and match so you have to ride the ride several times to see every one of the ride elements at least once. Also, the security checkpoint droid in the queue voiced by Patrick Warburton is hilarious.
 
2013-01-20 01:15:06 PM  

doczoidberg: Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.


We worked the hell out of that fastpass system. There is no time limit on when you need to use a pass, but there is a limit on when you can request another pass. Those limits are like an hour first thing in the morning, and grow longer throughout the day.
If you do it right, by the time the park is filling up in the early afternoon, you have several passes for your favorite rides, and breeze right through 90% of the line for each just when the lines are getting long. We really loved that feature.
 
2013-01-20 01:19:20 PM  
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2013-01-20 01:35:47 PM  
I live an hour away from Disney, and have gone maybe five times in my 43 years.

I can see it being great if you have kids, maybe go once per each kid, but otherwise it is an incredibly boring place otherwise.  There is a guy in this thread who said he has been ten times, what kind of boring place do you live in where Disney is exciting?

As for as Epcot, I have twice to the Food festival, meh.  I went with a group of people and we stayed the weekend, then each spent about 300 bucks drinking over priced beer wit could have gotten in the grocery store.

With hotels it was around 650 a piece.  I could have taken a cruise, or a last minute trip to someplace fun.

The Parks are a little too manufactured for me.
 
2013-01-20 01:37:57 PM  

wjllope: doczoidberg: Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.

We worked the hell out of that fastpass system. There is no time limit on when you need to use a pass, but there is a limit on when you can request another pass. Those limits are like an hour first thing in the morning, and grow longer throughout the day.
If you do it right, by the time the park is filling up in the early afternoon, you have several passes for your favorite rides, and breeze right through 90% of the line for each just when the lines are getting long. We really loved that feature.


I thought the Fast Pass only has a one hour window when it can be used. After that window is closed it is not supposed to be valid, although it really is up to whoever is taking the passes at the ride.
 
2013-01-20 01:53:15 PM  

theflatline: The Parks are a little too manufactured for me.


You couldn't pay me enough to go to one of these places anymore. They were fun when I was 17 and went to look at the boys and smoke weed in the bushes. I bet there's four times as many people there now.
 
2013-01-20 02:15:29 PM  
I enjoyed taking my kids to the health and fitness side of the Disney. It was decent infotainment. Going in the off season removed most of the long waits as well.
In regards to Fat people hating on people who lose weight. My experience dropping 60-70 pounds was the same as the person up thread. people wanted to know how I did it, and when they found out it was "eat less...Move more" , they could not have gotten away fast enough. I was told several times that I needed to stop losing weight "for my health" and that I looked like a holocaust survivor, from someone that looked like they ate a holocaust survivor. 6'7" 205#. Would like to put on more muscle...Working on that.
 
2013-01-20 02:54:53 PM  

killeroflight: I enjoyed taking my kids to the health and fitness side of the Disney. It was decent infotainment. Going in the off season removed most of the long waits as well.
In regards to Fat people hating on people who lose weight. My experience dropping 60-70 pounds was the same as the person up thread. people wanted to know how I did it, and when they found out it was "eat less...Move more" , they could not have gotten away fast enough. I was told several times that I needed to stop losing weight "for my health" and that I looked like a holocaust survivor, from someone that looked like they ate a holocaust survivor. 6'7" 205#. Would like to put on more muscle...Working on that.


I had a similar experience. At one point in my life, I lost about 60 pounds (and was still just *barely* in the range of my ideal weight). Some people were openly very angry with me. I guess if you use the excuse that "fat is just how I am", it can be quite unsettling to see evidence to the contrary.
 
2013-01-20 03:08:50 PM  

killeroflight: My experience dropping 60-70 pounds was the same as the person up thread. people wanted to know how I did it, and when they found out it was "eat less...Move more" , they could not have gotten away fast enough.


At least you caused them to burn a few calories running away from you. Hmmm... maybe we're on to a business opportunity for a new fad diet.
 
2013-01-20 03:20:13 PM  
When we visited Epcot this summer we were a test family for the new version of Habit Heroes. Fatties are still going to hate it and RascalRiders won't be able to participate in two of the areas that require actual full body movement.
 
2013-01-20 03:41:54 PM  

WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?


Regularly
 
2013-01-20 03:46:43 PM  

cryinoutloud: Following its debut last February, the attraction landed in big trouble when fat-acceptance proponents said its super-sized cartoon characters were cruel stereotypes and hurtful to larger-sized children.

From Disney? Aw, no farking way.

[insiderlouisville.com image 300x225]

/I wonder how many people were outraged when they went to see Wall-E, expecting a cute robot movie (like I did), and got a fable about overconsumption instead?



The more the better
 
2013-01-20 03:51:26 PM  

GBB: SDRR: arghyematey: ohnonotfloridaagain: gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot

Disney food is weird. Even in their top-of-the-line restaurants their food is just ok IMO (although I haven't yet tried Victoria and Albert's). We recently ate at Artist Point in the Wilderness Lodge and had yet another baffling experience. Lovely, detailed menu - fresh, unique ingredients and preparation -> blah on the plate. I don't get why this happens. Is it because they are trying to cook for palates from all over the world (and kids too), so purposely make everything bland and somewhat flavorless? Don't know, but if I'm gonna pay those kind of prices for a meal I will go somewhere local and independent from now on.

Sadly, after you've lived in Orlando for a while you realize that Disney's restaurants really are some of the best in town. One notable exception is the Ravenous Pig in Winter Park. That restaurant gives me hope for Orlando. Pricey but worth checking out if you want to experience "real" Orlando.

/still miss living in Charleston SC... there is an amazing amount of great restaurants for being a small city.

"real Orlando" ... lol

Sorry, nothing personal, but that made me LOL

Yeah. If you want to experience the "real" Orlando, try Bithlo. That's as close as you can possibly get to the "real" Orlando, Pre-Disney.


LMAO. Spent a lot of time at the moto-x track there a LONG time ago. You're right.
 
2013-01-20 03:58:33 PM  
You mean I lost all that weight for nothing?!
 
2013-01-20 04:00:05 PM  

SDRR: WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?

Regularly


It's the perfect family vacation. "Kids, run along an go see Mickey, daddy's got some drinking to do".
 
2013-01-20 04:25:19 PM  
Assholes come in many sizes at Disney, whether it's scooters, strollers, or groups of 40 people who just kind of sweep you up in their wake. Knowing how to get through a crowd is definitely a must if you're going to Disney.

My CSB:

The ones who piss me off the most though are the jerks who just push past you. While at the ticket counter 2 weeks ago, I saw this old guy push his way through the ENTIRE LINE of about 100 or so people. Always saying "Scuse me, Pardon me" all the way through it.

Everybody just thought he was joining another group, but when he got to the front, he just skipped to the next window and started talking over the shoulder of the people who were STILL BUSY trying to get tickets. And then about 7 other people came through the exit and joined him. Nobody said a word, but he was getting some really dirty looks.

//Saw him in the park later. Wanted to knock his stupid hat off, but didn't.
 
2013-01-20 04:27:50 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: TheManofPA: No one in that picture is riding a rascal so I don't think that picture was really DisneyWorld

My most vivid Disney memory is the END of the day my wife and I did Epcot -- all of Epcot...every ride, every show -- in a single day. We were there for "rope drop" and thanks to the extended hours for on-site hotel guests we managed to get it done.

Needless to say by the end we were exhausted, and the massive line for the shuttle bus back to our hotel was brutal enough until...an entire family of ham beasts rolled up on a parade of straining rental scooters. There were five of them ranging in ages from teenage to elderly. The elderly woman was the only one who looked like she could really need the scooter, yet she was the slimmest by far --  was kind of like being the member of Aerosmith who did the least heroin in '79.

These shambling land manatees rolled their scooters past the entire line to the "Handicapped" area, where they all dismounted their scooters with enough ease to belie the concept of being actually handicapped with anything more than an unquenchable longing for fried mozzarella.

The next shuttle bus arrived and the Corn Syrup Clan sat by and watched as the bus driver -- a small woman -- was forced to load the scooters into the bus alone. By the time all five scooters were loaded and the human pork rinds climbed aboard that was it. An entire bus -- a bus as large as a city bus -- was full. With a single family and their rental scooters.

I wonder if that family are the ones who complained about this new ride, except it was clear that this family and shame were as well-acquainted as this family and the production of lactic acid.

/Capital Yarn, Old Sod.


I use a scooter (much more mobility than my wheelchair). I can walk a small distance too. My spinal injury has nothing to do with fried mozzarella - but damn that sounds good:) Fwiw, I am also not overweight at all, despite being unable to do much exercise due to the spine thing involving chronic pain. It only hurts when I move;) And I am SO sick of those people making people who genuinely need a scooter look bad. Yes, technically they need a scooter, but damn, they can do something about that. If you are elderly or disabled, you do not have voices. Grrr. And about hogging all the handicapped parking spaces*...

not so css-
I have a friend who I love dearly who is eating herself to death. She can barely walk any distance. I didn't choose mine, she has watched me suffer for nearly 8 years, and she continues down the path to self inflicted pain and immobility? Sigh.

/ sorry, vent. Not venti.

* always makes me think the parking spaces are handicapped. Aww, poor things;)
 
2013-01-20 04:39:13 PM  
I try but if you are stuffing your fat face, you're getting a dirty look.
 
2013-01-20 05:13:05 PM  

Pollexter: MaxSupernova: The only disney world food that I found to be good was Ragland road in downtown disney. All the other food was just kinda meh. The counter service at morocco in epcot was pretty tasty as well.

I can tell how hard you tried to find the good food if you stopped with that tasty Irish food. *cough*


We have a little one so we mostly did character dining so yeah Ragland road was the best meal we had. it was cold and rainy so some pretty good Irish stew hit the spot. Never said it was five star but was the best meal I've had there in two trips. I'm sure there are some good places to eat but with a six year old we will be sticking to character meals for a few more years until she is tall enough for universal's rides.
 
2013-01-20 05:41:10 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.


One thing I didn't notice til now: Fatso is Canadian. That's a Roots bag, only sold up here...Huh
 
2013-01-20 05:46:46 PM  
"Cool?" More like "sad" that people are so oversensitive and that there even is a "fat acceptance movement"
 
2013-01-20 05:50:11 PM  

gingerjet: Perhaps Epcot could start with fixing its horrible food at its park.

/the worst French food I ever had was at the French restaurant at Epcot


I went to Epcot with my girlfriend last year and we ate at Teppan Edo (Japanese restaurant). Great food, great service. I think your problem was the "french" part.
 
2013-01-20 07:08:04 PM  
Everyone wants a magic pill to lose weight & it doesn't exist. I've lost over 90lbs. My mother is still land whale sized & thinks what the Dr says is gospel. I've tried to tell her how I lost the weight. She gets defensive every time I try. We've almost come to blows over it. She's retired so it's not like she doesn't have the time to exercise. She's just too lazy get off the couch. She also love to try to sabotage me. I once told her 8 times I didn't want potatoes with my eggs. When she gave me my plate there were potatoes on it. :/ I try to avoid eating at her house. If I do I ask to do things like grill vegis. Surprisingly she likes this.

It is so easy to lose weight when you educate yourself. It's so easy. Just eat the right things. Limit what you eat to a normal amount. Lastly get off your ass & get moving. We've just gotten so lazy as a nation. No one wants to put in the work to get healthy. Instead of actually making meals we get tv dinners or take out. Both are horrible for you. Also a huge no no is soda. Any kind of soda. Diet or regular. I stopped drinking diet soda, when I was at my top weight, & I dropped 20lbs in a month. Mind you I didn't do any exercise in that time. The only thing I did that was different was that I stopped drinking 2ltrs of diet soda a day. As I said people are just too lazy to try.

I still have some weight to lose. I'm just not a land whale anymore.
 
2013-01-20 07:14:17 PM  

two towns over: TV's Vinnie: Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.

One thing I didn't notice til now: Fatso is Canadian. That's a Roots bag, only sold up here...Huh


I don't know if Roots has stores in the US any more (they use to have on in Salt Lake City) but they do have a website that targets Americans. Link They also made the uniforms for Team USA in the 2002 Olympics.
 
2013-01-20 07:27:15 PM  

theflatline: I live an hour away from Disney, and have gone maybe five times in my 43 years.

I can see it being great if you have kids, maybe go once per each kid, but otherwise it is an incredibly boring place otherwise.  There is a guy in this thread who said he has been ten times, what kind of boring place do you live in where Disney is exciting?

As for as Epcot, I have twice to the Food festival, meh.  I went with a group of people and we stayed the weekend, then each spent about 300 bucks drinking over priced beer wit could have gotten in the grocery store.

With hotels it was around 650 a piece.  I could have taken a cruise, or a last minute trip to someplace fun.

The Parks are a little too manufactured for me.


I'm like an hour and a half away from Disney. We went once to the Magic Kingdom when I was 5, which is supposed to be the age that you make all these wonderful memories that keep you coming back or something, and while I had fun I never felt the urge to beg my parents to go back. My favorite memory was my younger sister screaming her head off on the merry go round. I've been to EPCOT a few more times, always for free for one reason or another, and we always agreed that while it was fun for free it wasn't fun enough to want to spend actual money there.

/Busch Gardens is the bomb though
 
2013-01-20 07:27:50 PM  

WhippingBoy: SDRR: WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?

Regularly

It's the perfect family vacation. "Kids, run along an go see Mickey, daddy's got some drinking to do".



I was at Sea World once and there was this overweight white trashy man with two kids and he was buying beer at one of the booths. He seemed already inebriated and as he was walking away from the booth with his kids you could here the daughter complaining "DAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAD! You're spilling beer on us AGAIN!!"

Those poor kids =/
 
2013-01-20 07:38:10 PM  

EngineerAU: two towns over: TV's Vinnie: Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.

One thing I didn't notice til now: Fatso is Canadian. That's a Roots bag, only sold up here...Huh

I don't know if Roots has stores in the US any more (they use to have on in Salt Lake City) but they do have a website that targets Americans. Link They also made the uniforms for Team USA in the 2002 Olympics.


Thank you. I'll be damned if I'm going to let some Canadian claim gunt lady as their own--she's ours, goddammit, and you can't have her!
 
2013-01-20 08:35:08 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: WhippingBoy: SDRR: WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?

Regularly

It's the perfect family vacation. "Kids, run along an go see Mickey, daddy's got some drinking to do".


I was at Sea World once and there was this overweight white trashy man with two kids and he was buying beer at one of the booths. He seemed already inebriated and as he was walking away from the booth with his kids you could here the daughter complaining "DAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAD! You're spilling beer on us AGAIN!!"

Those poor kids =/


Ingrates
 
2013-01-20 08:46:21 PM  

SDRR: Uchiha_Cycliste: WhippingBoy: SDRR: WhippingBoy: Screw the food, what I remember (vaguely) most about Epcot was the beer!

- Giant pints of Becks Dark in Germany
- A couple of yards in the English pub

Do they still let you drink there? To excess?

Regularly

It's the perfect family vacation. "Kids, run along an go see Mickey, daddy's got some drinking to do".


I was at Sea World once and there was this overweight white trashy man with two kids and he was buying beer at one of the booths. He seemed already inebriated and as he was walking away from the booth with his kids you could here the daughter complaining "DAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAD! You're spilling beer on us AGAIN!!"

Those poor kids =/

Ingrates


Now *that* response is crude, yet unrefined. Rather perfect for fark. In an 'I'm not sure if I hate the world more or less now" sort of way.
 
2013-01-20 09:33:43 PM  

sleeps in trees: doczoidberg: Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.

I want to take my boys but the youngest has autism. Could you imagine the hell that would ensue with waiting in line. I'd have to get drunk and stoned to deal with that.


Just call ahead, Disney is the best in the world at helping families with special needs. You'll have all kinds of access advantages to help your family have a great time.
 
2013-01-20 10:12:17 PM  

born_yesterday: Thank you. I'll be damned if I'm going to let some Canadian claim gunt lady as their own--she's ours, goddammit, and you can't have her!


Sadly I have citizenship for both countries so I can't avoid the association either way. Maybe we can pretend she's from Fiji.
 
2013-01-20 10:56:56 PM  

sleeps in trees: doczoidberg: Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.

I want to take my boys but the youngest has autism. Could you imagine the hell that would ensue with waiting in line. I'd have to get drunk and stoned to deal with that.


What you need is a Guest Assistance Card - you can get them at any guest services window at any of the parks. Just go up and let them know you need one and they will ask you what kind of accommodation you need. Tell them you need an alternate entrance, shaded line and/or quiet place to sit while waiting.  They will then give you a card listing the accommodations you require for you to use during your visit. Just show the card to the cast member at attraction entrances and they will take care of you from there. In some cases you will be taken through the exit and be  placed on the ride there. If available they will give you and your child a quiet place to sit while you wait.

If you want to talk more about taking a child with special needs to Disney drop me an email; address is in my fark profile.  Depending on how your child does with noises/crowds/etc you will want to plan out what to see and more importantly what to avoid. I can also refer you to a forum where you can talk to other parents of autistic children that are planning or have planned a trip to Disney .
 
2013-01-20 11:20:42 PM  

wjllope: doczoidberg: Disney World is a blast...if you enjoy standing in line all farking day.

We worked the hell out of that fastpass system. There is no time limit on when you need to use a pass, but there is a limit on when you can request another pass. Those limits are like an hour first thing in the morning, and grow longer throughout the day.
If you do it right, by the time the park is filling up in the early afternoon, you have several passes for your favorite rides, and breeze right through 90% of the line for each just when the lines are getting long. We really loved that feature.


Not anymore. Several months ago they started enforcing the return during the hour stated on the Fastpass, or it was no longer valid. They fixed something that wasn't even broken.
 
2013-01-20 11:23:43 PM  

Mr. Holmes: Assholes come in many sizes at Disney, whether it's scooters, strollers, or groups of 40 people who just kind of sweep you up in their wake. Knowing how to get through a crowd is definitely a must if you're going to Disney.

My CSB:

The ones who piss me off the most though are the jerks who just push past you. While at the ticket counter 2 weeks ago, I saw this old guy push his way through the ENTIRE LINE of about 100 or so people. Always saying "Scuse me, Pardon me" all the way through it.

Everybody just thought he was joining another group, but when he got to the front, he just skipped to the next window and started talking over the shoulder of the people who were STILL BUSY trying to get tickets. And then about 7 other people came through the exit and joined him. Nobody said a word, but he was getting some really dirty looks.

//Saw him in the park later. Wanted to knock his stupid hat off, but didn't.


You know what's even worse than the person you described? People like you that allow others to behave that way. Grow a pair and say something next time.
 
2013-01-20 11:34:35 PM  
All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

Shut up and

Buy buy buy
 
2013-01-20 11:51:19 PM  

sleeps in trees: nimawai: Everyone wants a magic pill to lose weight & it doesn't exist. I've lost over 90lbs. My mother is still land whale sized & thinks what the Dr says is gospel. I've tried to tell her how I lost the weight. She gets defensive every time I try. We've almost come to blows over it. She's retired so it's not like she doesn't have the time to exercise. She's just too lazy get off the couch. She also love to try to sabotage me. I once told her 8 times I didn't want potatoes with my eggs. When she gave me my plate there were potatoes on it. :/ I try to avoid eating at her house. If I do I ask to do things like grill vegis. Surprisingly she likes this.

It is so easy to lose weight when you educate yourself. It's so easy. Just eat the right things. Limit what you eat to a normal amount. Lastly get off your ass & get moving. We've just gotten so lazy as a nation. No one wants to put in the work to get healthy. Instead of actually making meals we get tv dinners or take out. Both are horrible for you. Also a huge no no is soda. Any kind of soda. Diet or regular. I stopped drinking diet soda, when I was at my top weight, & I dropped 20lbs in a month. Mind you I didn't do any exercise in that time. The only thing I did that was different was that I stopped drinking 2ltrs of diet soda a day. As I said people are just too lazy to try.

I still have some weight to lose. I'm just not a land whale anymore.

What shocked me as mum is how much sugar is in juice. Holy cats.


People just don't research & then wonder why their children are bouncing off the walls & weigh more at 5 than they did at 18. It's no wonder this country is in the shape it's in. If you actually read the labels on "diet" food it will shock you. The other day I went to get some sugar free pudding. I took the time to look at the label of the sugar loaded pudding. It had 1 carb more than the sugar free version. I was pretty shocked. So I said screw it & got the regular one. (It was my treat for the week)

Juice is something that's a bit shocking but not if you think about it. First off there is a lot of sugar in fruits. Second they usually add more sugar to it. To make it taste even sweeter. Companies know how addictive sugar is and they use that to their advantage. They suck people in by making them think something is more healthy than it actually is. Then load it up with sugar so people become addicted by it. It's quite sick. They don't care about the consumer. They just care how much money they are going to make in the end.
 
2013-01-21 03:11:40 AM  
Fat should not be acceptable.

Of course, you don't go around harassing people about their physical appearance, that should go without saying. But obesity is not in any way something that should be given even a modicum of respect. Feeling bad about being obese isn't the fault of others, it's caused by being obese (or having a serious psychological disorder whereby you think you're obese when you're not).

Obesity should be discouraged in the strongest possible terms. It is more dangerous than any other common failing. I would actually be surprised if chronic drug use has worse social and physical effects.
 
2013-01-21 03:13:37 AM  

sleeps in trees: nimawai: sleeps in trees: nimawai: Everyone wants a magic pill to lose weight & it doesn't exist. I've lost over 90lbs. My mother is still land whale sized & thinks what the Dr says is gospel. I've tried to tell her how I lost the weight. She gets defensive every time I try. We've almost come to blows over it. She's retired so it's not like she doesn't have the time to exercise. She's just too lazy get off the couch. She also love to try to sabotage me. I once told her 8 times I didn't want potatoes with my eggs. When she gave me my plate there were potatoes on it. :/ I try to avoid eating at her house. If I do I ask to do things like grill vegis. Surprisingly she likes this.

It is so easy to lose weight when you educate yourself. It's so easy. Just eat the right things. Limit what you eat to a normal amount. Lastly get off your ass & get moving. We've just gotten so lazy as a nation. No one wants to put in the work to get healthy. Instead of actually making meals we get tv dinners or take out. Both are horrible for you. Also a huge no no is soda. Any kind of soda. Diet or regular. I stopped drinking diet soda, when I was at my top weight, & I dropped 20lbs in a month. Mind you I didn't do any exercise in that time. The only thing I did that was different was that I stopped drinking 2ltrs of diet soda a day. As I said people are just too lazy to try.

I still have some weight to lose. I'm just not a land whale anymore.

What shocked me as mum is how much sugar is in juice. Holy cats.

People just don't research & then wonder why their children are bouncing off the walls & weigh more at 5 than they did at 18. It's no wonder this country is in the shape it's in. If you actually read the labels on "diet" food it will shock you. The other day I went to get some sugar free pudding. I took the time to look at the label of the sugar loaded pudding. It had 1 carb more than the sugar free version. I was pretty shocked. So I said screw it & got the regular one. (It was my tr ...


Let's make no mistake, though, fruit IS healthy.

In the exact same way that meat is healthy, carbohydrates are healthy, vegetables are healthy.

It's all about quantity and proportion.
 
2013-01-21 03:21:00 AM  

sleeps in trees: nimawai: sleeps in trees: nimawai: Everyone wants a magic pill to lose weight & it doesn't exist. I've lost over 90lbs. My mother is still land whale sized & thinks what the Dr says is gospel. I've tried to tell her how I lost the weight. She gets defensive every time I try. We've almost come to blows over it. She's retired so it's not like she doesn't have the time to exercise. She's just too lazy get off the couch. She also love to try to sabotage me. I once told her 8 times I didn't want potatoes with my eggs. When she gave me my plate there were potatoes on it. :/ I try to avoid eating at her house. If I do I ask to do things like grill vegis. Surprisingly she likes this.

It is so easy to lose weight when you educate yourself. It's so easy. Just eat the right things. Limit what you eat to a normal amount. Lastly get off your ass & get moving. We've just gotten so lazy as a nation. No one wants to put in the work to get healthy. Instead of actually making meals we get tv dinners or take out. Both are horrible for you. Also a huge no no is soda. Any kind of soda. Diet or regular. I stopped drinking diet soda, when I was at my top weight, & I dropped 20lbs in a month. Mind you I didn't do any exercise in that time. The only thing I did that was different was that I stopped drinking 2ltrs of diet soda a day. As I said people are just too lazy to try.

I still have some weight to lose. I'm just not a land whale anymore.

What shocked me as mum is how much sugar is in juice. Holy cats.

People just don't research & then wonder why their children are bouncing off the walls & weigh more at 5 than they did at 18. It's no wonder this country is in the shape it's in. If you actually read the labels on "diet" food it will shock you. The other day I went to get some sugar free pudding. I took the time to look at the label of the sugar loaded pudding. It had 1 carb more than the sugar free version. I was pretty shocked. So I said screw it & got the regular one. (It was my tr ...


It's disgusting. Parents put coke in sippy cups and then wonder why their 3yr old is 100lbs. Apple juice isn't bad if you cut it down with water. It might not taste as good but if they don't know better they'll be fine with it. If I ever have kids I don't plan on introducing sugar until they are older. There's no way my young child will ever have a sip of soda until they are a bit older. Then it will be on special occasions. Yes I'll be a bit strict but I also want to teach them good eating habits. This way they won't have to go through what I went through as a child. Also as an adult maybe they won't end up being a land whale. Children do like healthy food. Parents just don't give it to them because it's more convenient to give them a frozen dinner or fast food. We're slowly killing our children & shaking our heads wondering why it's happening. All while the answers are staring us right in the face.
 
2013-01-21 07:39:24 AM  

LavenderWolf: Fat should not be acceptable.

Of course, you don't go around harassing people about their physical appearance, that should go without saying. But obesity is not in any way something that should be given even a modicum of respect. Feeling bad about being obese isn't the fault of others, it's caused by being obese (or having a serious psychological disorder whereby you think you're obese when you're not).

Obesity should be discouraged in the strongest possible terms. It is more dangerous than any other common failing. I would actually be surprised if chronic drug use has worse social and physical effects.


fat shouldn't be acceptable. good job maintaining that 1% body fat us bodybuilders constantly strive for
 
2013-01-21 08:39:49 AM  
I do really appreciate these stories and the feelings of anger and saddness they give me. But the one thing I am so thankful for is that these kinds of stories make me want to viist the gym more and eat a little healthier even though I'm 5'10" and weigh 186. As for being a male in his early 30's food is almost like porn for me anymore but no matter how horny I am I'm still not into feeder porn. Bleh!
 
2013-01-21 09:33:20 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-21 09:40:34 AM  

EngineerAU: two towns over: TV's Vinnie: Those Mickey Mouse ice cream bars aren't gonna eat themselves you know.

One thing I didn't notice til now: Fatso is Canadian. That's a Roots bag, only sold up here...Huh

I don't know if Roots has stores in the US any more (they use to have on in Salt Lake City) but they do have a website that targets Americans. Link They also made the uniforms for Team USA in the 2002 Olympics.


I have a Roots backpack - they're available at gift shops conveniently located all over North America.

Canadian, but have lived amongst your people for many years. Have no fear, I always obey the Prime Directive.
 
2013-01-21 04:13:32 PM  

ohnonotfloridaagain: Never have seen the tiki birds


FFS, you've never seen the birds sing words and the flowers croon in the Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Room?!
 
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