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(CNN)   Conservatives trying to recast Martin Luther King, Jr. as a conservative hero   (cnn.com) divider line 267
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2013-01-20 12:10:35 AM
I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.
 
2013-01-20 12:17:37 AM

Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.


Probably behind something, am I right?
 
2013-01-20 12:17:50 AM
Yes, because conservatives are color blind while liberals are the real racists.
 
2013-01-20 12:23:36 AM
Someone actually seriously said in a strategy meeting that the guaranteed way to get black votes was to change the known history of MLK.  The same person probably also suggested the proper way to do it was to turn a celebrated pacifist into a NRA nutjob.
 
2013-01-20 12:24:13 AM
King is one of our most valued national treasures and he should be treated with a bit more respect than being used as a football
 
2013-01-20 12:25:56 AM
If you have never read, drunk deeply and contemplated Letter From Birmingham Jail, your edumacation is woefully incomplete. Take this opportunity to read it. That's the best thing you could do:

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.

Its sorta the complete opposite of "I've Got Mine So FARK You" thing that characterizes what passes for conservatism today. On the other hand, its clear King is far more comfortable with religious moralism affecting public policy than many liberals are willing to admit. His citation of Reinhold Niebuhr and St. Augustine are evidence. Its also interesting because its the only real example of an at least partially Judeo-Christian ethic: King cites an actual modern Jewish philosopher, Martin Buber, to bolster his argument. You won't find that from Focus on the Family or the so-called American Family Association. Actual Jews make them uncomfortable, to say the least.
 
2013-01-20 12:30:36 AM

Somacandra: Actual Jews make them uncomfortable, to say the least.


Que?
 
2013-01-20 12:31:31 AM
 
2013-01-20 12:34:14 AM

Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.


Instead of speculating on what he could have said let him rest. Saying shiat like this is pretty stupid and debases the memory of what he has done and what he stood for.
 
2013-01-20 12:34:41 AM

Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.


Some gun lobbyist actually opined that MLK would have been a staunch protector of gun rights. I think he realized his mistake, you could see a grimace of pain as his brain completed the chain of logic but his rectum was already uttering the words.
 
2013-01-20 12:37:38 AM
No different than the whole "Lincoln would be a Democrat" thing.

But I love talking about the MLK assassination, man. Because to me it's a great archetype example of how the totalitarian government who rules this planet partitions out information in such a way that we, the masses, are forced to base our conclusions on erroneous. Oh I'm sorry, wrong meeting.
 
2013-01-20 12:38:20 AM

Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.


Gun control laws were largely used to prevent blacks from owning guns until the 1970's, so he would probably have been conflicted about it.
 
2013-01-20 12:39:10 AM

cman: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

Instead of speculating on what he could have said let him rest. Saying shiat like this is pretty stupid and debases the memory of what he has done and what he stood for.


Seeing how he was shot, I don't think it's stupid at all. Chill.
 
2013-01-20 12:39:20 AM

cman: Somacandra: Actual Jews make them uncomfortable, to say the least.

Que?


American Jews are, by and large, very liberal.
 
2013-01-20 12:39:57 AM
Martin Luther King Jr. was a pacifist.
 
2013-01-20 12:40:26 AM
Sure, why not? They try and rewrite both past and current events every day.
 
2013-01-20 12:41:21 AM

Sin_City_Superhero: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

Probably behind something, am I right?


He'd definitely want to keep guns out of the hands of southern blacks. Oh, wait, the Black Codes already did that.
 
2013-01-20 12:43:49 AM
That's not half as ridiculous as quote mining Reagan to prove liberal points, but it's still pretty silly considering the man was a communist.
 
2013-01-20 12:43:55 AM
 
2013-01-20 12:45:02 AM

Triumph: No different than the whole "Lincoln would be a Democrat" thing.

But I love talking about the MLK assassination, man. Because to me it's a great archetype example of how the totalitarian government who rules this planet partitions out information in such a way that we, the masses, are forced to base our conclusions on erroneous. Oh I'm sorry, wrong meeting.


It's actually considerably different.
 
2013-01-20 12:48:52 AM
I'd like to apologize for this. Several years ago, I edited Conservapedia to say that MLK Jr. was a well-known conservative. The link I supplied for documentation was gibberish. It remained for years.
 
2013-01-20 12:52:11 AM

randomjsa: That's not half as ridiculous as quote mining Reagan to prove liberal points, but it's still pretty silly considering the man was a communist.


See you next thread!
 
2013-01-20 12:52:46 AM

mrjared: It's actually considerably different.


Nope, in both cases it's each political party trying to act like the fact that they wrong side of history doesn't have any relevance today.
 
2013-01-20 12:53:40 AM
Attn conservatives:

"Getting on the right side of history" does not mean claiming it is on your side.
 
2013-01-20 12:56:32 AM
Sounds like the GOP has their minority outreach program in full swing.
 
2013-01-20 12:56:37 AM
A Renegade History of the United States by Thaddeus Russell gave several quotations from MLK Jr. that were severely socially-conservative. However, he was trying to reign in the behavior of so-called "bad negroes" to gain respectability and equal treatment. It had nothing to do with what modern day Republicans are attempting to do.
 
2013-01-20 12:58:16 AM

WI241TH: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

as would most people yet...

"I think Martin Luther King, Jr. would agree with me if he were alive today that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history," Ward said.


Why would you give slaves guns...
 
2013-01-20 01:00:19 AM

Satanic_Hamster: WI241TH: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

as would most people yet...

"I think Martin Luther King, Jr. would agree with me if he were alive today that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history," Ward said.

Why would you give slaves guns...


Because if they'd have murdered somebody in the 1850's, they'd only have to serve 30 years on a 50 year sentence.
 
2013-01-20 01:01:36 AM
Actually, MLK would have fit in well with today's conservatives, he was a serial adulterer.

/troll face.
 
2013-01-20 01:01:41 AM
I would just like to remind everyone of a simple fact: If you want to know where Dr. King stood politically, he was assassinated while in Memphis in support of a strike action. At worst, at very worst, the farthest right you could reasonably place him would be as a progressive liberal.
 
2013-01-20 01:01:53 AM

Satanic_Hamster: WI241TH: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

as would most people yet...

"I think Martin Luther King, Jr. would agree with me if he were alive today that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history," Ward said.

Why would you give slaves guns...


For shooting Indians?
 
2013-01-20 01:02:46 AM
David Barton told me he's the black version of The Man with No Name. I see no reason to think otherwise.
 
2013-01-20 01:02:49 AM
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Delusional people are delusional.
More at 11.
 
2013-01-20 01:03:24 AM

Triumph: mrjared: It's actually considerably different.

Nope, in both cases it's each political party trying to act like the fact that they wrong side of history doesn't have any relevance today.


Wait, both sides are on the wrong side of history?

How does that work?
 
2013-01-20 01:04:29 AM

randomjsa: but it's still pretty silly considering the man was a communist.


Yeah, I knew people who were like that too.

I just smiled and nodded and let them ramble on.
 
2013-01-20 01:04:53 AM
Sure....if only King had been packing heat, he wouldn't have been felled by a sniper, JFK too.
 
2013-01-20 01:05:09 AM
Well, he did hate the Moozlems. Didn't he?
 
2013-01-20 01:06:19 AM
Actually, this brings up an interesting point:

You want to watch conservatives flounder on gun rights?

Start bringing brothers to the NRA meetings.
 
2013-01-20 01:06:31 AM
Why conservatives call MLK their hero

LOL they don't.

All you have to do to make a right-winger go ballistic are the following two words:

Affirmative. Action.
 
2013-01-20 01:09:09 AM
 
2013-01-20 01:10:12 AM
They've been doing this for years.
 
2013-01-20 01:11:44 AM

Gunny Walker: Well, he did hate the Moozlems. Didn't he?


www.loonwatch.com
 
2013-01-20 01:13:09 AM

whidbey: Why conservatives call MLK their hero

LOL they don't.

All you have to do to make a right-winger go ballistic are the following two words:

Affirmative. Action.


You mean, like charades? If you did Affirmative Action as charades, I'd be impressed, not ballistic.
 
2013-01-20 01:13:47 AM
I read an article recently that suggested that the "well regulated militia" mentioned in the 2nd amendment actually referred to the slave patrols used by the southern states to guard against slave rebellion.
 
2013-01-20 01:14:33 AM
Well, next up is Lincoln's b-day. The Republicans get to claim him. But between now and then comes Groundhog Day. I'll bet the Republicans don't try to claim Punxsutawney Phil because global warming. This year Cesar Chavez's b-day and Easter Sunday are on the same day. This is an easy one for Republicans, because although they were both brown, there are no paintings of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Chavez. Another happy coincidence is that Mississippi celebrates Jefferson Davis' b-day on Memorial Day, so Republicans can let their confederate flags fly while claiming to do so in memory of veterans.
 
2013-01-20 01:16:14 AM

cameroncrazy1984: See you next thread!


Demonstrating why it's not worth coming back I see.

Mrtraveler01: Yeah, I knew people who were like that too.

I just smiled and nodded and let them ramble on.


What, you mean you're not going to challenge the notion that he was a communist or jump in to wild speculation that I meant it as an insult rather than a statement of fact? After I made that post I lamented the fact that I hadn't been more clear... "Oh great, they're going to assume I was being insulting..."
 
2013-01-20 01:17:51 AM

usernameguy: King was in Memphis the day he died to support striking union garbage workers.


A True Conservative.
 
2013-01-20 01:18:14 AM
seattletimes.com

Then came the buildup in Vietnam and I watched the program broken and eviscerated as if it were some idle political plaything of a society gone mad on war, and I knew that America would never invest the necessary funds or energies in rehabilitation of its poor so long as adventures like Vietnam continued to draw men and skills and money like some demonic destructive suction tube. So I was increasingly compelled to see the war as an enemy of the poor and to attack it as such.


Yeah sure. Totally sounds like something a conservative would believe.

/Fark you subby
 
2013-01-20 01:18:57 AM

another cultural observer: whidbey: Why conservatives call MLK their hero

LOL they don't.

All you have to do to make a right-winger go ballistic are the following two words:

Affirmative. Action.

You mean, like charades? If you did Affirmative Action as charades, I'd be impressed, not ballistic.


I'd raise your f*cking taxes, b*tch.
 
2013-01-20 01:20:21 AM
They tried this with John Lennon, too.


WI241TH: Solid State Vittles: I have a pretty good idea where he would stand on gun control.

as would most people yet...

"I think Martin Luther King, Jr. would agree with me if he were alive today that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history," Ward said.


I don't know how someone that stupid can even dress themselves. Colbert did a good bit about that gem.

Stephen Colbert's Double Barrel Blam-O-Rama - Guns as Civil Rights Victims
 
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