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2013-01-20 01:32:40 AM
"Funny" the same way East Germany was "funny".
 
2013-01-20 01:42:50 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "Funny" the same way East Germany was "funny".


▓▓▓▓▓▓ ▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓.
 
2013-01-20 01:50:03 AM
 
2013-01-20 02:10:41 AM
I assume this is a repeat from 1972?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-01-20 02:17:12 AM
I'm glad to see the Freedom of Information Act has teeth...
 
2013-01-20 02:17:53 AM
sniff sniff, I smell a federal lawsuit
 
2013-01-20 02:19:18 AM
It's all deliberative process, which is exempt from release. They knew they weren't going to get nothing.
 
2013-01-20 02:21:25 AM
Bureaucratic humour is sometimes the best humour.

I'd keep an eye out for the Zalagasan cannibals, though, if I were part of the ACLU...
/ better not be obscure
 
2013-01-20 02:23:55 AM
The ACLU will attempt an Orly Taitz-style retaliation in 4....3....2....1
 
2013-01-20 02:24:56 AM
The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.
 
2013-01-20 02:31:19 AM

easypray: The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.


They know where to find me - at the intersection of "chubby," "redhead," and "tattoo."
 
2013-01-20 02:32:44 AM

Bryntryst: They knew they weren't going to get nothing.


*scratches head*
 
2013-01-20 02:36:24 AM
Article is as cryptic as the FBI's response. Who is Weissmann? Who is Jones?
 
2013-01-20 02:50:04 AM

BMulligan: easypray: The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.

They know where to find me - at the intersection of "chubby," "redhead," and "tattoo."


www.dactyls-and-drakes.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

www.singlespeedstella.com

That's an awfully specific fetish.
 
2013-01-20 02:53:24 AM

PirateKing: BMulligan: easypray: The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.

They know where to find me - at the intersection of "chubby," "redhead," and "tattoo."

[www.dactyls-and-drakes.com image 402x402]

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 433x650]

[www.singlespeedstella.com image 320x240]

That's an awfully specific fetish.


Darn you. Gosh darn you to heck.
 
2013-01-20 02:53:32 AM

easypray: The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.


Joke is on the FBI. By tracking my porn use, they're committing an agent to a 95 hour a week job. Hope you like paying overtime, suckers!
 
2013-01-20 03:02:27 AM
PirateKing:
That's an awfully specific fetish.

For some strange reason, I went off to go find out what Tattoo was doing these days. Then I found out and was very sad.
 
2013-01-20 03:07:28 AM
A number of years ago, my office got FOIA request from "researchers" looking for evidence of Big Foot in the northern wilderness. This request was accompanied by a very sternly worded letter from on high that we were not to screw with these nice researchers exercising their rights. So instead of jerking them around, we just buried them under every sheet of paper that our office database or intern grunts said listed the words "big" or "foot" anywhere on the page, including terrain measurements. Maybe they got something useful out of it. After I saw how it was all done, I loved FOI requests. Seriously, get a storage unit ready.
 
2013-01-20 03:18:08 AM

JakeStone: PirateKing:
That's an awfully specific fetish.

For some strange reason, I went off to go find out what Tattoo was doing these days. Then I found out and was very sad.


Killed himself on my birthday.
 
2013-01-20 03:18:19 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "Funny" the same way East Germany was "funny".


And Best Korea is downright hilarious.
 
2013-01-20 03:22:14 AM

gadian: A number of years ago, my office got FOIA request from "researchers" looking for evidence of Big Foot in the northern wilderness. This request was accompanied by a very sternly worded letter from on high that we were not to screw with these nice researchers exercising their rights. So instead of jerking them around, we just buried them under every sheet of paper that our office database or intern grunts said listed the words "big" or "foot" anywhere on the page, including terrain measurements. Maybe they got something useful out of it. After I saw how it was all done, I loved FOI requests. Seriously, get a storage unit ready.


So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests. Thanks for the heads up

/even crackpots deserve not be screwed with
 
2013-01-20 03:31:29 AM

Cyber_Junk: So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests. Thanks for the heads up

/even crackpots deserve not be screwed with


Hey, we gave them exactly all of the information they asked for - anything relating to "big" "foot" in the wilderness. It would have been irresponsible to do otherwise. We might have missed something and that would be illegal. It's not our fault they weren't more specific.
 
2013-01-20 03:55:57 AM

gadian: Cyber_Junk: So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests. Thanks for the heads up

/even crackpots deserve not be screwed with

Hey, we gave them exactly all of the information they asked for - anything relating to "big" "foot" in the wilderness. It would have been irresponsible to do otherwise. We might have missed something and that would be illegal. It's not our fault they weren't more specific.


If you're going to dick around with a FOIA request, I'd much rather you include too much data than not enough. At least if there really was a legitimate cause for the request, it'll still be possible for the requesters to sift through the blizzard and find what they need.
 
2013-01-20 04:19:44 AM

Cyber_Junk: So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests.


I'd say part of the problem with FOI requests is that they are being used to research Bigfoot.
 
2013-01-20 04:22:06 AM
Nobody needs to know what those 30,000 drones are doing.
Link
 
2013-01-20 04:50:12 AM
Jesus, what childish assholes
 
2013-01-20 04:52:08 AM
ACLU to FBI: FOIA?

FBI to ACLU: FU!

*sigh*
 
2013-01-20 04:54:06 AM

JakeStone: PirateKing:
That's an awfully specific fetish.

For some strange reason, I went off to go find out what Tattoo was doing these days. Then I found out and was very sad.


Smiles! Smiles everyone! We want our guests to feel welcome!
 
2013-01-20 04:58:11 AM

BMulligan: easypray: The FBI tracks the porn you watch. Try and make your searches more flattering.


/you should be ashamed.

//I hope the agent in charge of watching mine is hot.

They know where to find me - at the intersection of "chubby," "redhead," and "tattoo."


And my wife didn't believe me when I told her we could make money making porn.

\free, but ad supported of course
 
2013-01-20 05:28:22 AM
To try and be polite.. FBI, you're not helping.
 
2013-01-20 05:40:20 AM
Yeah, I trust the ACLU to stand up for my rights more than I trust the FBI not to violate them.
 
2013-01-20 05:42:53 AM

Cyber_Junk: gadian: A number of years ago, my office got FOIA request from "researchers" looking for evidence of Big Foot in the northern wilderness. This request was accompanied by a very sternly worded letter from on high that we were not to screw with these nice researchers exercising their rights. So instead of jerking them around, we just buried them under every sheet of paper that our office database or intern grunts said listed the words "big" or "foot" anywhere on the page, including terrain measurements. Maybe they got something useful out of it. After I saw how it was all done, I loved FOI requests. Seriously, get a storage unit ready.

So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests. Thanks for the heads up

/even crackpots deserve not be screwed with


Nope. Creackp[ots should be screwed with. Because facts can't convince them, so why bother?
 
2013-01-20 05:43:09 AM

James F. Campbell: Yeah, I trust the ACLU to stand up for my rights more than I trust the FBI not to violate them.


This is good.
 
2013-01-20 05:46:46 AM

BMulligan: JakeStone: PirateKing:
That's an awfully specific fetish.

For some strange reason, I went off to go find out what Tattoo was doing these days. Then I found out and was very sad.

Killed himself on my birthday.


Happy Birthday!
 
2013-01-20 05:54:42 AM
I for one find this actually amusing.

I wonder what the ACLU request actually said, however. The FBI is allowed to screen out anything that would compromise US security or ongoing investigations; so assuming they're not just being dicks, (a big assumption) did the ACLU just ask for "information about current tracking operations" and think that would be good enough to open the door for a lawsuit? If so, who is trolling whom?

And is anyone's interest really being served by a pissing match between the ACLU and the FBI?
 
2013-01-20 06:38:11 AM

gadian: Cyber_Junk: So basically you're saying that you're part of the problem with FOI requests. Thanks for the heads up

/even crackpots deserve not be screwed with

Hey, we gave them exactly all of the information they asked for - anything relating to "big" "foot" in the wilderness. It would have been irresponsible to do otherwise. We might have missed something and that would be illegal. It's not our fault they weren't more specific.


Did they ask for the compound word "Bigfoot"/
 
2013-01-20 06:45:06 AM
Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?
 
2013-01-20 07:01:01 AM
Do not worry, citizens! The Federal Bureau of Investigation is working hard to keep you safe from [enter name of current pseudo enemy here]. If you are not a [current pseudo enemy] or crack dealer, you have nothing to fear!
 
2013-01-20 07:15:52 AM

Virtuoso80: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?


those with the "need to know".
 
2013-01-20 07:24:18 AM
Of course we all trust Obammy, Eric Withholder, Van Jones, and the rest of the New Black Nazis running our country. Don't we?
 
2013-01-20 07:34:15 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "Funny" the same way East Germany was "funny".


Yeah, sometimes the Obama administration's tolerance for employee sarcasm is a good thing. This... is not one of them.
 
2013-01-20 07:48:38 AM

Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?


I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.
 
2013-01-20 07:52:53 AM

daveUSMC: Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?

I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.


A few years back, some douchebag congressman was bragging that he was reading documents that President Obama wasn't allowed to see. I'm drawing a blank at the name, though.
 
2013-01-20 07:59:15 AM

daveUSMC: Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?

I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.


Stuff above regular secret is compartmentalized by subject. So the head of the CIA for example, might have access to the files about where bin Laden was hiding, but wouldn't have access to the one on how to build a nuclear bomb. Same thing with the president - what does he need to know about nuclear physics - all he needs to know is the procedure to tell someone to blow something up. Not that he probably can't write himself into whatever group he wants.
 
2013-01-20 08:10:29 AM
Yeah this is funny until you remember the FBI were spying on Native rights activists in the 70's, and sent ML King a letter telling him to kill himself. These days they're probably infiltrating vegan knitting circles, on the off chance they have something to do with the Occupy movement.

JakeStone:
PirateKing:
That's an awfully specific fetish.

For some strange reason, I went off to go find out what Tattoo was doing these days. Then I found out and was very sad.


Do you know how long ago that show was on?
 
2013-01-20 08:27:19 AM

Karac: daveUSMC: Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?

I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.

Stuff above regular secret is compartmentalized by subject. So the head of the CIA for example, might have access to the files about where bin Laden was hiding, but wouldn't have access to the one on how to build a nuclear bomb. Same thing with the president - what does he need to know about nuclear physics - all he needs to know is the procedure to tell someone to blow something up. Not that he probably can't write himself into whatever group he wants.


Can a President decide that keeping something a secret is no longer in the best interests of the United States, and declassify it?
 
2013-01-20 09:19:04 AM
Cue Lee Greenwood.
 
2013-01-20 09:26:32 AM

Karac: daveUSMC: Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?

I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.

Stuff above regular secret is compartmentalized by subject. So the head of the CIA for example, might have access to the files about where bin Laden was hiding, but wouldn't have access to the one on how to build a nuclear bomb. Same thing with the president - what does he need to know about nuclear physics - all he needs to know is the procedure to tell someone to blow something up. Not that he probably can't write himself into whatever group he wants.


Its not like its a library with an indexing system. If the President wants to see something, he can, but he has to request it. If he doesn't know it exists, he'll never see it.
 
2013-01-20 09:51:23 AM
Uranus Is Huge!: "Funny" the same way East Germany was "funny".

Well like Ben Franklin said I country willing to sacrifice liberty for safety will get neither.
 
2013-01-20 10:07:20 AM

Virtuoso80: Karac: daveUSMC: Virtuoso80: Question I've always wondered about: To what extent does a sitting President have access to viewing top secret and redacted files? One would think that the Commander and Chief of the military could at least view top secret military files, and that if he couldn't, then no one can, but I have a feeling it doesn't work that way.

Which is the second question: Who DOES get the authority to look at uncensored files, if anyone?

I'm pretty sure POTUS has a higher security clearance than TS.

Stuff above regular secret is compartmentalized by subject. So the head of the CIA for example, might have access to the files about where bin Laden was hiding, but wouldn't have access to the one on how to build a nuclear bomb. Same thing with the president - what does he need to know about nuclear physics - all he needs to know is the procedure to tell someone to blow something up. Not that he probably can't write himself into whatever group he wants.

Can a President decide that keeping something a secret is no longer in the best interests of the United States, and declassify it?


Yes. See "Plame, Valerie."
 
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