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2013-01-19 10:59:45 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Every gun show I ever attended required all weapons to have zip-ties run through them to keep the bolt open.


this is how fascism begins ... with seemingly innocent measures like mandatory zip-ties.

don't forget: those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither.
 
2013-01-19 11:01:38 PM

vabeard: Still less fewer killings than at a Chicago basketball game.

/fixed
 
2013-01-19 11:01:44 PM
Was anybody shot in the shoulder?
 
2013-01-19 11:02:29 PM
Guns don't kill people. If you want to kill someone you will find a way.

That's why the US Marines gave up firearms years ago.
 
2013-01-19 11:02:55 PM
Because these people were only hurt, I find this story funny.
However, if they had been killed, I would have found it hilarious.
 
2013-01-19 11:03:02 PM

scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.


This ain't even close to being an epic thread.
 
2013-01-19 11:03:10 PM

spacelord321: Huntceet: No Such Agency: brandent:
Apparently you don't understand how a shotgun works. Hitting 3 people simultaneously is quite easy. Notice how it says two of them in the hand and one in the torso. Depending on the size of the "shot", several dozen bb sized....well bbs.... are ejected at high velocity and scatter out the end. The diameter of the pattern being directly related to the distance from the end of the barrel. If the people injured were 20 or 30 yards away standing in a group it is quite possible to hit several at once.

You mean a shotgun fires a bunch of bullets at once? Like an assault rifle? How are weapons like that even remotely legal? There's no way that's safe or legitimate for hunting or self defense. You could hit things you aren't even aiming at.

You don't know much about guns or hunting, do you. Maybe do a little studying on the internet.

It's called sarcasm. You can find the defenition on the internet.


Probably the correct spelling of definition as well.
 
2013-01-19 11:04:10 PM

jaytkay: Guns don't kill people. If you want to kill someone you will find a way.

That's why the US Marines gave up firearms years ago.


Not everyone can afford remote-piloted drones, Richie McRicherson.
 
2013-01-19 11:04:55 PM
You have a 0.0036% chance of being killed by a firearm, not counting intentional suicide.

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.
 
2013-01-19 11:05:34 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Fortunately, we only lost 219 people today as the price we pay for the freedom to drink alcohol.

eagerly awaiting the typical "THAT'S DIFFERENT!" response from the alcoholics.


I think the difference being that there isn't a convention where people get together and show each other how awesome and knowledgeable they are about booze. And if they do it's called a kegger and when people get alcohol poisoning it's considered funny as the gun equivalent it is here.
 
2013-01-19 11:05:34 PM

BarkingUnicorn: doyner: eddievercetti: jehovahs witness protection: Every gun show I ever attended required all weapons to have zip-ties run through them to keep the bolt open.

To bad some dumbasses forget the advanced technology of a zip tie!

The NRA successfully lobbied Congress to remove the zip-tie restriction on our freedoms in 2003.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I've never been to a gun show, but in every photo or video of one that I've seen I could not recall any zip-ties.

I've seen zip-ties required to keep swords and axes in their scabbards at Renaissance Festivals.  I  guess the pointy-sharpy nuts don't have a strong lobby.


Ren Faire folks tend to be saner.
 
2013-01-19 11:05:42 PM

whatshisname: Is there one person in line for that gun show who isn't morbidly obese?


Show some respect! These are the elite warriors that are going to overthrow the evil black man in the white house!!
 
2013-01-19 11:06:04 PM

NightOwl2255: scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.

This ain't even close to being an epic thread.


I don't think so, either. 3 or 4 gun threads a day have worn me out.
 
2013-01-19 11:06:32 PM

hubiestubert: Seriously. It's not hard to keep a weapon unloaded. And you should be treating EVERY weapon like it's loaded anyhow. What in the chocolate covered f*ck are these idiots thinking?


First you assume that they're thinking. This is a mistake.
 
2013-01-19 11:07:46 PM
Next week: Body Armor Appreciation Day
 
2013-01-19 11:08:56 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: Huntceet: No Such Agency: brandent:
Apparently you don't understand how a shotgun works. Hitting 3 people simultaneously is quite easy. Notice how it says two of them in the hand and one in the torso. Depending on the size of the "shot", several dozen bb sized....well bbs.... are ejected at high velocity and scatter out the end. The diameter of the pattern being directly related to the distance from the end of the barrel. If the people injured were 20 or 30 yards away standing in a group it is quite possible to hit several at once.

You mean a shotgun fires a bunch of bullets at once? Like an assault rifle? How are weapons like that even remotely legal? There's no way that's safe or legitimate for hunting or self defense. You could hit things you aren't even aiming at.

You don't know much about guns or hunting, do you. Maybe do a little studying on the internet.

Holy shiat. THIS is why no one can take gun activists seriously. Even when it's your own side you can't recognize sarcasm.


Poe's law. Most of the anti-gun people really do know fark-all about guns, and detecting the sarcasm from the serious is hard.
 
2013-01-19 11:08:58 PM
The gun is always loaded
The gun is always loaded.
The gun is always loaded.

What part of that did these dumbasses not understand?
 
2013-01-19 11:08:59 PM
 
2013-01-19 11:09:37 PM

simplicimus: NightOwl2255: scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.

This ain't even close to being an epic thread.

I don't think so, either. 3 or 4 gun threads a day have worn me out.


And they all tend to digress into the same old thread.
 
2013-01-19 11:10:19 PM
Good.
 
2013-01-19 11:10:25 PM

Fubini: Statistically, 500 people are killed every year from accidental gun discharges. That means on average 1-2 deaths per day, and undoubtedly more injuries. Lots of people die and get injured every day for more stupid reasons than accidental discharge.

This is only "news" or "ironic" if you're totally uninformed.


Or watching folks tripping over themselves to wrap themselves in the flag to show off their "patriotic" love of firearms while simultaneously reinforcing the perception that perhaps stronger licensing might be in order on a day to celebrate their weapons and their love of them...

Or did you just miss that?

I own a few firearms. A couple of pistols, a couple of shotguns, a few rifles, and even had a concealed carry for a few years, because at the time I was making night deposits in Boston, and that was back when the Combat Zone was still kind of dangerous. I am a strong proponent for the Second Amendment, and the First too. The wroth that folks are in about the possibility of background checks and limitations might be a bit better received as patriotic fervor, if they might refrain from illustrating, in such a public fashion, that the gun owning community needs to be more responsible.

Yes, accidents occur every day. That's still too many, but maybe if folks didn't illustrate why gun shows are hotbeds of recklessness, it might make a stronger case that the gun owning community IS responsible. These yahoos are only making it harder for folks who DO take gun safety seriously, and do you really want to defend idiocy of this level? Really? At which point does loading a weapon, in public, and handling it in an unsafe manner become acceptable and commonplace?

Don't forget to show your work.
 
2013-01-19 11:10:38 PM

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Seriously. It's not hard to keep a weapon unloaded. And you should be treating EVERY weapon like it's loaded anyhow. What in the chocolate covered f*ck are these idiots thinking?

First you assume that they're thinking. This is a mistake.


It's like a watershed moment in the argument for mandatory gun licensing. We require folks to demonstrate basic vehicular safety before getting a vehicle license - it's time gun owners demonstrated basic firearm safety before being given a gun license. We're already equipped to give eye exams for vehicle licenses, so we're covered there, too.

Still means your grandmother isn't getting a Mossberg. Or a Mustang.
 
2013-01-19 11:10:52 PM

NightOwl2255: simplicimus: NightOwl2255: scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.

This ain't even close to being an epic thread.

I don't think so, either. 3 or 4 gun threads a day have worn me out.

And they all tend to digress into the same old thread.


If those guys were in a Militia it never woulda happened!
 
2013-01-19 11:11:11 PM

hundreddollarman: The gun is always loaded
The gun is always loaded.
The gun is always loaded.

What part of that did these dumbasses not understand?


That the gun might be loaded?
 
2013-01-19 11:12:48 PM
gunappreciationday-psyclone.netdna-ssl.com

Everybody get that message?
 
2013-01-19 11:13:28 PM

Alonjar: You have a 0.0036% chance of being killed by a firearm, not counting intentional suicide.

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.


And it's far lower than that if you're not a criminal.
 
2013-01-19 11:13:40 PM
Uh, Were there really 8 people shot at 5 shows or what that just an exaggeration?
 
2013-01-19 11:13:57 PM

brewswane: the gun-control movement is a bunch of old, out-of-touch white people, clinging to the politics of the last century.


That would be the 20th century, where the politics of this nation stopped the rise of Fascists, Nazis, Communists and Socialists in the various global and regional wars? True, those ideals may not have as many supporters today.
 
2013-01-19 11:14:44 PM
Another example of why we need to get God back in our gun shows.
 
2013-01-19 11:15:13 PM

Farker Soze: NightOwl2255: simplicimus: NightOwl2255: scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.

This ain't even close to being an epic thread.

I don't think so, either. 3 or 4 gun threads a day have worn me out.

And they all tend to digress into the same old thread.

If those guys were in a Militia it never woulda happened!


If the other people at the show were armed...
 
2013-01-19 11:16:23 PM

KarmicDisaster: Uh, Were there really 8 people shot at 5 shows or what that just an exaggeration?


I don't know about nationwide, but 3 people were struck with bird shot pellets when a shotgun was negligently discharged at the Raleigh NC show.
 
2013-01-19 11:16:25 PM

Farking Canuck: whatshisname: Is there one person in line for that gun show who isn't morbidly obese?

Show some respect! These are the elite warriors that are going to overthrow the evil black man in the white house!!



I know you're being facetious, do I think Obama is a pretty shiatty president? Yeah, I do. I thought bush was a jackass for the patriot act, unwarranted wiretapping, and I hate Obama for expanding the patriot act and thinking that indefinably detaining American citizens without a warrant is peachy. I don't believe that Obama will still be in office if and when there is armed insurrection.

Also, your attempts to try and connect legal gun owners to crazed racists is quite hilarious, or it would be if a great many Obama supporters didn't think like you.
 
2013-01-19 11:16:51 PM

Sim Tree: When the owner of a 12-gauge shotgun was asked to remove his gun from its case. Somehow, the gun discharged, shooting two people in the hand and one in the right torso.

WHAT?! In the act of removing your gun from its case, you accidentally shot three entirely different people?! WTFingHell are you doing?!


It's a shotgun. It is usually loaded with a shell, which contains a number of metal pellets called the "shot." They emerge from the barrel and spread out in a spray.
 
2013-01-19 11:18:03 PM
So many republicans have committed suicide this week. If only there were some holiday to help them appreciate the dignity and beauty of human life.
 
2013-01-19 11:18:15 PM

fullerton: meanwhile, three cars crashed at the car show. an airplane crashed at an air show and a marathon runner died running a marathon.


DMV motto: Driving is a priviledge, not a right.
There's a government organization that monitors every single flying aircraft.
Runners must be screened for health before being admitted into a marathon.
Oh, and all three require training and insurance.

If you want the same for firearms ownership, I agree.
 
2013-01-19 11:18:24 PM
See, this is what happens when you remove God from gun shows.
 
2013-01-19 11:18:48 PM

Alonjar: You have a 0.0036% chance of being killed by a firearm, not counting intentional suicide.

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.


What are the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack in America?

Shut. Down. Everything.
 
2013-01-19 11:19:02 PM
Those shootings weren't accidental. They were due to negligence.

Reckless endangerment... and swing by later to pick up the rest of their weapons. I'm sick of farkwits like these and their 'accidents.'
 
2013-01-19 11:20:14 PM
In before... well, I guess not. All the bases are covered.
 
2013-01-19 11:20:22 PM

KarmicDisaster: Uh, Were there really 8 people shot at 5 shows or what that just an exaggeration?


I heard five people at three gun shows.
 
2013-01-19 11:20:29 PM

GUTSU: Farking Canuck: whatshisname: Is there one person in line for that gun show who isn't morbidly obese?

Show some respect! These are the elite warriors that are going to overthrow the evil black man in the white house!!


I know you're being facetious, do I think Obama is a pretty shiatty president? Yeah, I do. I thought bush was a jackass for the patriot act, unwarranted wiretapping, and I hate Obama for expanding the patriot act and thinking that indefinably detaining American citizens without a warrant is peachy. I don't believe that Obama will still be in office if and when there is armed insurrection.

Also, your attempts to try and connect legal gun owners to crazed racists is quite hilarious, or it would be if a great many Obama supporters didn't think like you.


And then this guy showed up...
 
2013-01-19 11:20:47 PM

Codenamechaz: I think the better question is "Why the hell was your gun on display LOADED?!"


A gun is always LOADED.
 
2013-01-19 11:21:11 PM

hundreddollarman: The gun is always loaded
The gun is always loaded.
The gun is always loaded.

What part of that did these dumbasses not understand?


The part about triggers and fingers.
 
2013-01-19 11:21:22 PM

hubiestubert: Yes, accidents occur every day. That's still too many, but maybe if folks didn't illustrate why gun shows are hotbeds of recklessness, it might make a stronger case that the gun owning community IS responsible. These yahoos are only making it harder for folks who DO take gun safety seriously, and do you really want to defend idiocy of this level? Really? At which point does loading a weapon, in public, and handling it in an unsafe manner become acceptable and commonplace?

Don't forget to show your work.


My whole point is that this attitude reflects a total lack of thought. TFA says something like 4-5 people injured by guns today. That's pretty much exactly in line with what you'd expect, statistically. They're not "hotbeds or recklessness," it's business as usual. Whether you think five injuries and two deaths a day is too many is a totally separate question, but don't wave them around like suddenly the five injuries and two deaths that happened on "Gun Appreciation Day" somehow mean more than the five injuries and two deaths that happen any other day of the year.

Again, bear the absolute numbers in mind (and I apologize but these are probably not totally accurate, I'm not going to go look them up again just now). There are something like 310 million guns in the US, and something like 80 million gun owners. Out of those 80 million gun owners, we know that probably something like 3-5 managed to do something stupid enough to hurt another human being. And that's it. Those are the numbers when placed in the proper context. Whether you think that shows that gun owners are irresponsible and untrustworthy is up to you. But the fact that a few gun owners hurt themselves and others today shouldn't be the point of discussion.
 
2013-01-19 11:23:32 PM
Thought of this....
Link
'Troopers: Gun Privileges'
 
2013-01-19 11:23:37 PM
This is not helping their cause.
 
2013-01-19 11:25:06 PM

elchip: Alonjar: You have a 0.0036% chance of being killed by a firearm, not counting intentional suicide.

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

What are the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack in America?

Shut. Down. Everything.


That's the funny thing. We spent billions on the TSA, who scrutinizes every passenger, and terrorists who wind up getting on planes anyway are taken down by.. regular people! We could have just saved that 60 billion, because ultimately, you can't trust your protection to anyone but yourself. People need to learn that, before life teaches them.
Eagerly awaiting the "Sure it didn't work at all, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still try the same thing!".
 
2013-01-19 11:26:44 PM

hundreddollarman: The gun is always loaded
The gun is always loaded.
The gun is always loaded.

What part of that did these dumbasses not understand?


"Stop trying to steal their guns you goddamn liberal communist fascist gun-hating hippie NObama blowing traitor! 'MURKA! F*CK YEA!"

That part.
 
2013-01-19 11:27:10 PM

NightOwl2255: scottapeshot: Epic gun thread.

This ain't even close to being an epic thread.


I'm not going to argue unless you've paid.
t.fod4.com
 
2013-01-19 11:27:27 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: elchip: Alonjar: You have a 0.0036% chance of being killed by a firearm, not counting intentional suicide.

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

What are the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack in America?

Shut. Down. Everything.

That's the funny thing. We spent billions on the TSA, who scrutinizes every passenger, and terrorists who wind up getting on planes anyway are taken down by.. regular people! We could have just saved that 60 billion, because ultimately, you can't trust your protection to anyone but yourself. People need to learn that, before life teaches them.
Eagerly awaiting the "Sure it didn't work at all, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still try the same thing!".


Kill. Everything. Now.
 
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