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(Forbes)   Not News: US auto maker Tesla Motors makes amazing electric cars. News:Tesla Motors is the second oldest publicly traded US auto maker. HOLY FARK: The NHTSA's roof crush test actually broke when it tried to crush the Model S   (forbes.com) divider line 14
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2013-01-19 04:44:26 PM
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Another fun fact. The Model S's price is well out of range of the vast majority of Americans.

F the environment. I'll keep driving gas-guzzling, global-warming beasts until they make these fancy-shmancy cars considerably more affordable.
2013-01-19 04:24:23 PM
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This ad for Tesla Motors brought to us by Fark.com.  Or we're just reposting an ad from Forbes for Tesla willingly, which is even dumber since I assume that Drew isn't getting paid in that case.
2013-01-19 09:13:09 PM
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crotchgrabber: Tourney3p0: loser0:
Know how I know you don't know what's under the hood of a Tesla?

I know what was under the hood of a Tesla a few years ago, when the transmissions had a nearly 100% failure rate. If that has changed, please elaborate. That was the entire point of the question. What is the point of responding with "Know how I know you don't know the answer to your question?" If I knew, I wouldn't have asked, dipshiat.

e-cars don't have trannies.

I want a roadster. Saw a guy take one around Laguna Seca during a track day for some club. My response was along the lines of "Phwa...."


Well, they do. They just typically only have one gear at the moment, because, well, Tesla couldn't figure out how to make two work.
2013-01-19 08:16:15 PM
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doglover: HotWingAgenda: the fact that the vast majority of Americans live in apartment buildings without garages and therefore no power outlets?

Then why do you need a car? Move into the city and use buses and trains or move into the country and get yourself a house.


because public transit in places that aren't NYC generally sucks.

and because some of us live in places where scumbag suburbs use property tax credits to attract businesses to them, so we end up working in the burbs and living downtown. it's like a farking bizzaro world. I'm working on rectifying this particular issue.

also, these cars are great and all, but doesn't it take more energy and greenhouse gas generation to mine the lithium, make batteries etc, than will be saved in gas costs?

what about those of us who live in old ass cities, we don't have off street parking generally, and our curbs don't have plug ins.
2013-01-19 08:11:45 PM
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GAT_00: L.D. Ablo: If someone backs into it, will I have to have the entire battery replaced?

They do have a known problem in that you cannot let the battery drain completely.  It has minor constant operations running, which give a full charge a lifetime of about 3 weeks if not driven.  If the battery flatlines, it's totally worthless. You have to get Tesla to come pick it up to fix it.


Currently, the "Sleep Mode" causes the 12V battery to die, which then makes the whole car undrivable.

Not to mention the reviewer who was held hostage by his when it wouldn't let go of the charging plug. The had to fly in a repairman to fix it. Considering Tesla has no plans to open up local dealerships, and that they want require owners to pay $600 a year for service (in order not to void the warranty) - having to wait a few days to get a minor issue like not being able to move the car out of your driveway might be a concern.


www.autoweek.com

/not a Tesla hater, just not a fan of their business plan regarding dealers and service
//all cars have problems, brand new ones using brand new tech even more so
2013-01-19 07:59:13 PM
1 votes:
Also broke the roof crush machine:

cars-database.com
2013-01-19 07:46:11 PM
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: the fact that the vast majority of Americans live in apartment buildings without garages and therefore no power outlets?


Then why do you need a car? Move into the city and use buses and trains or move into the country and get yourself a house.
2013-01-19 07:16:44 PM
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GAT_00: L.D. Ablo: If someone backs into it, will I have to have the entire battery replaced?

They do have a known problem in that you cannot let the battery drain completely.  It has minor constant operations running, which give a full charge a lifetime of about 3 weeks if not driven.  If the battery flatlines, it's totally worthless. You have to get Tesla to come pick it up to fix it.


Ignore the 3 weeks.  That should be months.
2013-01-19 07:15:49 PM
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L.D. Ablo: If someone backs into it, will I have to have the entire battery replaced?


They do have a known problem in that you cannot let the battery drain completely.  It has minor constant operations running, which give a full charge a lifetime of about 3 weeks if not driven.  If the battery flatlines, it's totally worthless. You have to get Tesla to come pick it up to fix it.
2013-01-19 07:07:41 PM
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xanadian: Another fun fact. The Model S's price is well out of range of the vast majority of Americans.

F the environment. I'll keep driving gas-guzzling, global-warming beasts until they make these fancy-shmancy cars considerably more affordable.


As I recall, the business plan ran somewhere along the lines of:

1st, high end sports car for the rich.
Use that money to make the highish-end luxury sedan.
Use that money to make cheaper family car, etc.
2013-01-19 05:39:31 PM
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xanadian: Another fun fact. The Model S's price is well out of range of the vast majority of Americans.

F the environment. I'll keep driving gas-guzzling, global-warming beasts until they make these fancy-shmancy cars considerably more affordable.


A Model T of 1909 cost $850.  That's just shy of $21k today.  When you add in GDP, which was $32B compared to $15T today, $850 was much bigger than $21k today, since $850 was a couple of years average pay.  The sedan is going to cost around $50k.

Production reduces costs.  The Model T was around a third of the original price 10 years later.  That makes a Tesla quite affordable.
2013-01-19 05:39:15 PM
1 votes:
I couldn't hear how awesome the car was because the author has a big fat giant Tesla in his mouth.  And he's gobbling it like candy.
2013-01-19 05:07:03 PM
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xanadian: Another fun fact. The Model S's price is well out of range of the vast majority of Americans.

F the environment. I'll keep driving gas-guzzling, global-warming beasts until they make these fancy-shmancy cars considerably more affordable.


Gas -guzzling beasts were not affordable to the vast majority of Americans for the first several decades also. It's gotta start somewhere.
2013-01-19 05:05:26 PM
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Saw the Roadster today, not bad for a car that used to be a Elise.

But the Model S as fast and advanced as it is costs more than a Lexus? NO.
 
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