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(LA Times)   Lane splitting LA motorcyclist says he's doing a public service and you couldn't hit him if you tried   (latimes.com) divider line 33
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2013-01-19 12:27:31 PM  
6 votes:
Challenge accepted.
2013-01-19 12:13:18 PM  
4 votes:
Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.
2013-01-19 03:46:33 PM  
3 votes:

Z-clipped: Welcome to the thread where a bunch of automobile drivers stop willfully ignoring the presence and safety of motorcyclists just long enough to wag their fingers at them for "dangerous behavior" while simultaneously texting, putting on makeup, eating a Big Mac, posting to Fark, and disciplining their crotchfruit in the back seat.

And all because they're butthurt that someone who chose to drive a smaller vehicle is able to pass them in a traffic jam.

As someone who has ridden all year every year, for two decades: Please, please... just shut the hell up and go back to ignoring me. After all these years of learning how to survive your indifference, entitlement, and stupidity, I now find it preferable.


Welcome to the thread where bikers with entitlement issues think they can do whatever the fark they want.
2013-01-19 02:55:18 PM  
3 votes:
Welcome to the thread where a bunch of automobile drivers stop willfully ignoring the presence and safety of motorcyclists just long enough to wag their fingers at them for "dangerous behavior" while simultaneously texting, putting on makeup, eating a Big Mac, posting to Fark, and disciplining their crotchfruit in the back seat.

And all because they're butthurt that someone who chose to drive a smaller vehicle is able to pass them in a traffic jam.

As someone who has ridden all year every year, for two decades: Please, please... just shut the hell up and go back to ignoring me. After all these years of learning how to survive your indifference, entitlement, and stupidity, I now find it preferable.
2013-01-19 01:44:37 PM  
3 votes:
Same road, same rules motherfarker.  If lanes don't matter, why have lanes?
2013-01-19 12:31:53 PM  
3 votes:
So these donorcyclists who split lanes at 80 are breaking the law? Lets see here. We've got 2 corneas, a heart, 2 lungs, a liver, a couple of kidneys...
2013-01-19 05:09:36 PM  
2 votes:

Iamos: San Francisco is a pretty good place for riding year-round, which means drivers are used to looking for motorcyclists all the time and don't get "seasonal amnesia" like colder places. I've had more people move to make room for me on the freeway than intentionally block. CHP included. The only time I've been hit by a car was when I got rear-ended at a stop sign. A stopped motorcycle is the most dangerous one to be on.


When I was living up in the bay area years ago, I was driving through the city. Mission was at a complete stand still. I heard a loud thump and looked in my rear view to see a biker laying on my trunk. He was splitting the lane and the ass hat next to me opened his door to block the biker. Dude had to grab his brakes quick and fell sideways onto my car. Biker and I had a good laugh after yelling at the dude who blocked him.

Moral of the story: bike, car, motorcycle... it's usually the assholes fault.
2013-01-19 04:56:01 PM  
2 votes:

Z-clipped: I'll happily be the thunderous noise that blows by you at 160


And THAT'S why you're an asshole.
2013-01-19 04:44:56 PM  
2 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Idiots ride motor bikes. That is all.


Yeah, I'm going to disagree with that.

Pound for pound you have just as many douchenozzles behind the wheel of a car as you do behind a bike. The bad bikers stand out a bit more.

There are those among us who take great pride in getting from A-B in a safe and "living" manner. I think if you hopped on a bike for a week the amount of issues caused by the 4 wheelers and not the biker will shock you.
2013-01-19 04:28:58 PM  
2 votes:
Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.

When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".

Because "We" do check for motorcycles.

// IMO, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be on the road driving to begin with, those are the "We" you're referring to. Hell, some of them don't even bother checking for CARS, let alone motorcycles. YMMV according to state.

// I don't tailgate, I use my signals, I added wide angles to my side view mirrors so I can easily check lanes for cars/motorcycles, I don't run lights, etc ... but I speed like a motherfarker!
2013-01-19 02:05:42 PM  
2 votes:

flucto: Beerguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs

Blame seems pretty clear in that one.


I am not placing blame, I am just displaying how risky it is to lane split.

Regardless of who is to blame, if you end up maimed, you are still maimed.
2013-01-19 06:40:31 PM  
1 votes:

Repo Man: Leishu: lordargent: Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.

When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".

Because "We" do check for motorcycles.

// IMO, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be on the road driving to begin with, those are the "We" you're referring to. Hell, some of them don't even bother checking for CARS, let alone motorcycles. YMMV according to state.

// I don't tailgate, I use my signals, I added wide angles to my side view mirrors so I can easily check lanes for cars/motorcycles, I don't run lights, etc ... but I speed like a motherfarker!

Pretty much.

A good driver checks for everything on the road. EVERYTHING, regardless of its size, or its state of motion, should be paid attention to as long as there's the slightest chance that your vehicle can make contact with it. It's really not that hard,

And that's why I always use my turn signals. I lived for years without a car, relying on bicycles and motorcycles for transportation. So many times people would change lanes, never see me, and as they didn't think there was anyone around, they didn't bother to use their turn signal (that's being charitable, I'm sure some of them were the type of slobs who just couldn't be bothered under any circumstance). If you always use your signals for lane changes, at least the person you didn't/couldn't see has some warning. They are there, it costs you nothing, use them!


Of course, that's the other half.

Being a good driver can be summed up in two steps, no matter what you drive:

1. Be predictable.
2. Pay attention.
2013-01-19 06:04:25 PM  
1 votes:

Clutch2013: Yeah...no. They're lucky. Lucky that I (and the other guy, thankfully) had the wherewithal to keep the wheels straight, and not panic


Driving sounds like an activity that you're not particularly suited for. Maybe you should get a bus pass or something.
2013-01-19 05:55:49 PM  
1 votes:

dickfreckle: There's a reason it's legal in California...it makes sense.


Just because something is legal in California doesn't mean it makes sense.
2013-01-19 05:34:13 PM  
1 votes:

mjbok: And this would be the reason why people would hate bikers. One douche can spoil it for many others. I don't care how good of a rider you are, you going anything over 90 makes it impossible for someone doing a (legal) lane change to see and account for you.


You're missing the point. I'm saying, I don't care if you account for me. Even if you do, (you personally), the other 99 drivers on the road won't. So don't worry about it. I'll account for YOU. I'm fine with that. Just don't lecture me about safety, and don't get bent out of shape because I'm getting somewhere faster than you, or getting around an obstacle you can't. Just ignore me, and go about your business.

Clutch2013: came within centimeters

Clutch2013: One time, I was thisclose

Clutch2013: if the idiot...had arrived about half a second later

Clutch2013: up they could have been.


So you're saying, nothing awful actually happened?

Clutch2013: I got the holy shiat scared out of me.


Oh, poor baby. Try riding a motorcycle in traffic for 10 minutes. You'd be a weeping mess. Listen, those guys may have seemed like they were rubbing elbows with death to you, but trust me... they're more in control of their vehicles and more aware of time and space than you are. If they weren't 100 times better than you at negotiating the highway, they'd have died a long time ago.
2013-01-19 05:19:38 PM  
1 votes:
FTFA: "First I'd like to reassure you that, no matter how much you may fear it, you will not swerve your car sideways and hit me. By the time I invade your space, I've been studying your driving from four cars back. I know if you're on your cellphone or putting on your makeup. I know if you're following too close or lagging behind. I know if you hug to the left or right, or weave. "

This author is truly deranged if he really thinks he is doing this. In gridlock, going 30 mph, he is analyzing every single car's movements and habits as well as checking out the totally obvious awareness levels of the drivers through a tinted helmet and through tinted windows. Learn to lie better dipshiat.
2013-01-19 05:11:40 PM  
1 votes:

ukexpat: Jeez what's the big deal? This is SOP for motorcyclists in the UK.


This. It didn't even occur to me that it might be a "thing" until I read about it being illegal in the US. Another weird law, like having to come to a dead stop at junctions.
So the UK allows bikes to lane split, drivers to drive through junctions without even having to slow down if they can see the way is clear, and yet the roads are safer statistically.
2013-01-19 05:09:19 PM  
1 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: And THAT'S why you're an asshole.


Right. It doesn't matter how much of an asshole everyone else on the road is, or that they would happily kill me to get to Qdoba five minutes earlier. All that matters is that I'M the asshole because I'm doing something you don't approve of.
Enjoy your coffee. Be sure to text your BFF Jill about how good it is.
2013-01-19 05:03:08 PM  
1 votes:
San Francisco is a pretty good place for riding year-round, which means drivers are used to looking for motorcyclists all the time and don't get "seasonal amnesia" like colder places. I've had more people move to make room for me on the freeway than intentionally block. CHP included. The only time I've been hit by a car was when I got rear-ended at a stop sign. A stopped motorcycle is the most dangerous one to be on.
2013-01-19 04:54:17 PM  
1 votes:
I'm fine with traffic splitting, as long as 100 percent of the liability in case of an accident rests on the cyclist. And the driver of any automobile that collides with a cyclist is immune to any civil lawsuit from the cyclist or his surviving relatives.
2013-01-19 04:38:23 PM  
1 votes:

lordargent: Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.

When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".

Because "We" do check for motorcycles.

// IMO, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be on the road driving to begin with, those are the "We" you're referring to. Hell, some of them don't even bother checking for CARS, let alone motorcycles. YMMV according to state.

// I don't tailgate, I use my signals, I added wide angles to my side view mirrors so I can easily check lanes for cars/motorcycles, I don't run lights, etc ... but I speed like a motherfarker!


Pretty much.

A good driver checks for everything on the road. EVERYTHING, regardless of its size, or its state of motion, should be paid attention to as long as there's the slightest chance that your vehicle can make contact with it. It's really not that hard,
2013-01-19 04:34:15 PM  
1 votes:

Some Bass Playing Guy: Welcome to the thread where bikers with entitlement issues think they can do whatever the fark they want.


We CAN do whatever we want, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. So you may as well quit throwing stones from inside your enormous glass house, and pay more attention to your own driving than you do to mine.
2013-01-19 04:12:14 PM  
1 votes:
Idiots ride motor bikes. That is all.
2013-01-19 04:07:46 PM  
1 votes:
Jeez what's the big deal? This is SOP for motorcyclists in the UK.
2013-01-19 04:07:01 PM  
1 votes:

Beerguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs


Funniest video I've seen all day. Thanks!
2013-01-19 03:40:48 PM  
1 votes:

doyner: IIRC, it doesn't apply to moving traffic.


so bascially, most of the article is about the guy breaking the law?
because how the car driver drives, really doesnt matter if the traffic isnt moving ... LOL

you should get rewards for hitting these people
seriously

/traffic jams, yah, sure probably ok with that .... except that we know that most of these riders are tools of the worst sort .... cyclists with motors !! here me roar
2013-01-19 03:10:03 PM  
1 votes:

Z-clipped: Welcome to the thread where a bunch of automobile drivers stop willfully ignoring the presence and safety of motorcyclists just long enough to wag their fingers at them for "dangerous behavior" while simultaneously texting, putting on makeup, eating a Big Mac, posting to Fark, and disciplining their crotchfruit in the back seat.

And all because they're butthurt that someone who chose to drive a smaller vehicle is able to pass them in a traffic jam.

As someone who has ridden all year every year, for two decades: Please, please... just shut the hell up and go back to ignoring me. After all these years of learning how to survive your indifference, entitlement, and stupidity, I now find it preferable.


Like you, I've been a full-time rider for nearly 20 years (started at 18). In 1999 I sold my last car and never bought another one. You can't reason with drivers; they're here to mock us and call us donorcyclists. Don't listen to them.

Lane-splitting is a perfectly viable method of dealing with traffic. No, it's not to be done at 50mph. But if I'm at a massive red light in the city, of course I'm going to it - cautiously. There's a reason it's legal in California...it makes sense.
2013-01-19 02:02:08 PM  
1 votes:
Around Philly the most bizarre traffic move I've seen isn't a motorcycle splitting lanes or farkwits shoulder riding but when faced with a massive backup on I-95 I have on numerous occasions seem people who have no issue with putting their cars in reverse for a half mile to get to an exit.
2013-01-19 01:40:52 PM  
1 votes:
Lane splitting has specific rules in the state of California and the way most motorcyclist lane split here is illegal.
2013-01-19 01:21:26 PM  
1 votes:

Pud: Motorcyclist used to do that a lot when I was in California. During that time I would ride when the weather permitted, but I just never did the lane splitting thing. I do remember one time someone a few cars ahead of me threw coffee out the window just as the rider was passing them and hit him right in the face guard. I couldn't help but think that was intentional.


And illegal. And a very good chance of getting road raged. It's like when people get behind the wheel, they think it's like the internet. Anonymity ends where enmity begins.
2013-01-19 01:05:43 PM  
1 votes:
Who cares? They life they save may be someone else's.
2013-01-19 12:25:39 PM  
1 votes:

dj_bigbird: Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.


IIRC, it doesn't apply to moving traffic.
2013-01-19 12:09:11 PM  
1 votes:
I'm a motorcyclist (for a few months of the year at least) and while I rarely ride anywhere with traffic that dense when I do I've split a lane or two it beats the hell out of directly inhaling exhaust fumes.
 
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