Tat'dGreaser: I may not agree with it but it is kind of cool that CHP pretty much said "do it at your own risk". They realized people are going to do it, so why not let them but if they die it's all on them.
Aigoo: My uncle's a biker. Been one for almost 40 years. If the man heard you saying this kind of idiotic bullshiat in real life, he'd snap your bike in two and drop it in the river--probably with you on it. If he caught you going 160, first he'd tell you--as he told me the first time he saw me on a motorcycle--they're not speed machines, then he'd laugh his ass off while the cops took care of that extraordinarily reckless driving problem you seem to have.Personally, I approve of motorcycles. I do not approve of snot-nosed douchenozzles who are, in fact, assholes giving every other individual who choose to ride but is far more mature and responsible a bad name. Try being less of an ass and maybe people won't want to run your sorry ass over.
Big Dave: I've heard that the Police unions have something to do with keeping it legal in California.
tstrimp: And don't forget, getting rear-ended may not be that serious for a car, but it can be much more dangerous for a motorcycle.
IronTechV1: In the days I was there, I got somewhat accustomed to seeing the practice, but I still would be amazed if there isn't a lot of mirror clipping.
Pray 4 Mojo: Late to the party...But... there's sure lots of asshole (ITG) box jockeys on Fark.
Pray 4 Mojo: I can tell what the driver is going to do before they do it.
FizixJunkee: dj_bigbird: Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.This.When cars are moving ~7 mph on the 405, motorcyclists are safe moving in and out of lanes. Plus, it's LEGAL for motorcyclists to "share lanes" with cars and other bikes.
Z-clipped: Do you ever drive over the speed limit?
Krieghund: If there were a referendum, I would vote to end lane splitting.
Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes. That may be in the blind spot too- and really this sort of check every time would be an unsafe distraction overall.
Lorelle: FizixJunkee: dj_bigbird: Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.This.When cars are moving ~7 mph on the 405, motorcyclists are safe moving in and out of lanes. Plus, it's LEGAL for motorcyclists to "share lanes" with cars and other bikes.Indeed. And we're used to it here. In fact, when I'm sitting in bad traffic and see a biker NOT doing this, I wonder why.
CtrlAltDestroy: The percentage of dangerous bikers is no different than the percentage of dangerous drivers.
Baloo Uriza: Watch what happens when I open my door.
stjohn: Baloo Uriza: Watch what happens when I open my door.You cause an accident and your insurance rates go up? Maybe you get sued by the motorcyclist you injured. You're at fault for the accident, so maybe both.
Sin_City_Superhero: BadReligion: Z-clipped has to be a trollWhat Z-clipped's bike might look like:[badgertronics.com image 640x480]
lordargent: Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".Because "We" do check for motorcycles.// IMO, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be on the road driving to begin with, those are the "We" you're referring to. Hell, some of them don't even bother checking for CARS, let alone motorcycles. YMMV according to state.// I don't tailgate, I use my signals, I added wide angles to my side view mirrors so I can easily check lanes for cars/motorcycles, I don't run lights, etc ... but I speed like a motherfarker!
Z-clipped: This thread is full of drivers who voluntarily put other people's lives at risk for the sake of their own convenience every time they get into a vehicle. I guess I'm just the only one with the balls to take responsibility for it.
mjbok: Z-clipped: Do you ever drive over the speed limit?This is really not a good comparison is it? Driving 10 miles (or even 20 miles) over the speed limit will get you a fine. Driving 80 over will get you jail time.
studman 69: Z-clipped: This thread is full of drivers who voluntarily put other people's lives at risk for the sake of their own convenience every time they get into a vehicle. I guess I'm just the only one with the balls to take responsibility for it.So it's not okay, but you're gonna go ahead and do it because everyone else is? What are you getting at, exactly? In the end, it IS about safety though. It could be the difference between life or death. Sure, you could speed and lane split irresponsibly all you want, but ultimately it's a risk you are taking that someone else could swipe you and knock you on your ass. Just don't biatch about it if it happens because YOU know that it could have happened. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Of course there are shiatty drivers out there. You take that risk when you pull out of your driveway every morning. There ain't nothing you're gonna do to change that. biatching about it on the internet sure isn't going to help and I highly doubt you are going to change anyone's opinion about it with your attitude.I'm fine with lane splitters as long as the cyclists do it safely and responsibly in accordance with the law. If you are on a bike and can get by slow moving traffic, fine by me. Go ahead. I'd do it too if I could, so why not? Yeah, no shiat there are going to be salty people about it but again, like I said before, there's NOTHING you can do to change their stubborn ways, so just shut the fark up.
Z-clipped: This thread is full of drivers who voluntarily put other people's lives at risk for the sake of their own convenience every time they get into a vehicle. I guess I'm just the only one with the balls to take responsibility for it.In the end, it's not about safety. You do dangerous shiat because it doesn't feel dangerous to you. You have no concept of the risk you subject others to. You vastly overestimate the damage my bike can do your car, and vastly underestimate the damage you can do to me. You have the silly notion that me sharing a lane with you for a split second puts you at significant risk, while you regularly choosing not to use a signal is no big deal for everyone else. You have no understanding of the actual dangers involved in driving, because you're locked in a giant, padded steel box, and to be quite frank, you just don't care about anything outside of that box.Flame away hypocrites. It doesn't bother me. I know it's really rooted in your authoritarian rage that I'm able to break rules that you can't. Go ahead, wish death upon me. I'd rather die because I made a mistake, than because your Facebook status update couldn't wait til the next rest stop.
Mock26: Dude, unwad your panties.
ReverendJynxed: I rode a bike for many years and I would never split lanes because I don't trust the folks in cases. You know for a fact they aren't paying attention and you are still willing to risk your safety because you think you can out-stupid them.
dc0012c: ReverendJynxed: I rode a bike for many years and I would never split lanes because I don't trust the folks in cases. You know for a fact they aren't paying attention and you are still willing to risk your safety because you think you can out-stupid them.Hear, hear! I don't trust drivers enough to split lanes anywhere. Personally, I think it's just plain stupid, I don't care how hot it is (Florida rider) or how much traffic there is, stay in your damn lane. There's way too much arrogance in the rider community about "freedom", and being a bad-ass, and making the personal choice to take unnecessary risks is an attempt to prove both. Some riders in this thread have argued with the drivers about "getting to Qdoba", but what is lane splitting? Need to get to the gym in 27 minutes?
santadog: In Asia, it's not just lane splitting, but Motorcycles and Scooters also get a "box" at the traffic lights. All bikes move to the box during the red light in front of all the cars. Any Motocycle or Scooter will take off faster than a car from the stop.
JuggleGeek: The same bikers claiming "This is safer, it's good for everyone" are going to go lawsuit happy the first time they end up in a wreck because they were doing it.And I'm going to have no sympathy for them.
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