Sin_City_Superhero: You're an asshole for driving 160, asshole. At that speed, it's not just your dumb ass on the line, asshole. And don't even try to argue that 160 mph is a 'safespeed', either...asshole.
Z-clipped: Clutch2013: Yeah...no. They're lucky. Lucky that I (and the other guy, thankfully) had the wherewithal to keep the wheels straight, and not panicDriving sounds like an activity that you're not particularly suited for. Maybe you should get a bus pass or something.
Z-clipped: I wonder if calling me an asshole feels as good to you as scaring the shiat out of criminally inattentive drivers does to me?
xanadian: Pud: Motorcyclist used to do that a lot when I was in California. During that time I would ride when the weather permitted, but I just never did the lane splitting thing. I do remember one time someone a few cars ahead of me threw coffee out the window just as the rider was passing them and hit him right in the face guard. I couldn't help but think that was intentional.And illegal. And a very good chance of getting road raged. It's like when people get behind the wheel, they think it's like the internet. Anonymity ends where enmity begins.
Sin_City_Superhero: Hey, jerkoff, speed limits apply to bikes, too.
Repo Man: wiseolddude: I would never split lanes when I am riding. I have seen too many Russian dash cam videos.You might change your mind if you are stuck in a parking lot on a hot freeway, and you begin seeing other guys on motorcycles cruising right past you. Going fifteen to twenty MPH isn't very fast, but it's a lot faster than a dead stop.
BadReligion: Z-clipped has to be a troll
BadReligion: Z-clipped has to be a troll. No-one can actually claim that it is ok to do 120+MPH in a 55MPH zone, and still be all rightous about other people being bad drivers because they don't anticipate him being there.
Z-clipped: Sin_City_Superhero: Hey, jerkoff, speed limits apply to bikes, too.Do you ever drive over the speed limit?
Z-clipped: Sin_City_Superhero: You're an asshole for driving 160, asshole. At that speed, it's not just your dumb ass on the line, asshole. And don't even try to argue that 160 mph is a 'safespeed', either...asshole.I wonder if calling me an asshole feels as good to you as scaring the shiat out of criminally inattentive drivers does to me?
Z-clipped: Fine by me. Don't. In fact, don't pay me any courtesy at all. I'll happily be the thunderous noise that blows by you at 160, and makes you spill hot coffee on your crotch. You don't respect me? I don't respect you.
Repo Man: Leishu: lordargent: Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".Because "We" do check for motorcycles.// IMO, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be on the road driving to begin with, those are the "We" you're referring to. Hell, some of them don't even bother checking for CARS, let alone motorcycles. YMMV according to state.// I don't tailgate, I use my signals, I added wide angles to my side view mirrors so I can easily check lanes for cars/motorcycles, I don't run lights, etc ... but I speed like a motherfarker!Pretty much.A good driver checks for everything on the road. EVERYTHING, regardless of its size, or its state of motion, should be paid attention to as long as there's the slightest chance that your vehicle can make contact with it. It's really not that hard,And that's why I always use my turn signals. I lived for years without a car, relying on bicycles and motorcycles for transportation. So many times people would change lanes, never see me, and as they didn't think there was anyone around, they didn't bother to use their turn signal (that's being charitable, I'm sure some of them were the type of slobs who just couldn't be bothered under any circumstance). If you always use your signals for lane changes, at least the person you didn't/couldn't see has some warning. They are there, it costs you nothing, use them!
dj_bigbird: Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.
BadReligion: No-one can actually claim that it is ok to do 120+MPH in a 55MPH zone, and still be all rightous about other people being bad drivers because they don't anticipate him being there.
Leishu: Repo Man: Leishu: lordargent: Oznog:Being a good driver can be summed up in two steps, no matter what you drive:1. Be predictable.2. Pay attention.
Z-clipped: The sheer volume of entitlement and rationalization at work is frankly baffling.
crotchgrabber: Moral of the story: bike, car, motorcycle... it's usually the assholes fault.
Z-clipped: It's not OK to go 120 in a 55. It's also not OK to go 65 in a 55, or text while you're driving, or let your attention wander, or eat, or talk on a phone, or put on makeup. But an overwhelming number of people do those things, despite the fact that it puts my life in imminent danger. So since the vast majority of you don't give a fark about me, I'm going to drive as I please. Based on your obvious disregard for anything outside of your micro-universes, it's a fair assumption that if your vehicle were nimble enough and fast enough to reliably obviate the highway patrol, you'd already be doing the same thing.Moreover, I'm not angry at drivers anymore. I've stopped concerning myself with their disrespectful behavior. I don't ask that they anticipate me. In fact, I've specifically stated the opposite. I don't hit them, and I no longer give them the opportunity to hit me. I'm just pointing out the wild, insane hypocrisy of people getting their panties in a wad about motorcyclists legally lane-splitting when they constantly go out of their way to deliberately create distractions for themselves instead of paying attention to the road, which causes them to make hundreds of driving errors every hour that pose no danger to themselves, but could easily kill a motorcyclist. The sheer volume of entitlement and rationalization at work is frankly baffling.
Sin_City_Superhero: Cause, guess what...I don't speed.
Pincy: Sorry z-clipped, you don't get to brag about speeding past people at 160 (or whatever your bike can really do)
FizixJunkee: dj_bigbird: Lane splitting is legal here in CA, it's a great way to deal with heavy traffic. And, it's safer.This.When cars are moving ~7 mph on the 405, motorcyclists are safe moving in and out of lanes. Plus, it's LEGAL for motorcyclists to "share lanes" with cars and other bikes.
Z-clipped: I do flout traffic laws quite a lot, and I definitely speed more than most people on the road, but I don't actually go out of my way to frighten anyone. I do provoke police from time to time, but they generally have it coming.
Tourney3p0: No one respects you as a person.
Z-clipped: If sending a text while you're driving is more important to you than paying enough attention to avoid killing me, what obligation do I have to you at all?
susler: lordargent: Oznog: We don't check for a slim, faster-moving incoming bike 3 cars back between lanes.When you say "We", you really mean "all of the people who don't check for motorcycles" and not "everyone that drives".Because "We" do check for motorcycles.!Yes and No. I always check the blind spot and, being a former rider, for motorcycles. I've still had situations where I didn't see the bike.They can be difficult to see, particularly at night and if they aren't all splitting safely.
Gyrfalcon: And in 20+ years of living down here, I've never seen a bike hit in heavy traffic.
Snargi: dickfreckle: There's a reason it's legal in California...it makes sense.Just because something is legal in California doesn't mean it makes sense.
Sin_City_Superhero: Yet YOU'RE the safe one.
Sin_City_Superhero: YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
lordargent: Fo Shiz : So these donorcyclists who split lanes at 80 are breaking the law?In CA it's legal if (IIRC) the traffic is moving at less than 40 MPH.If traffic is moving over 40MPH it's illegal even in CA. The idea being that air cooled bikes would overheat in stop and go traffic (also, with the way monkeys drive in stop and go traffic, I don't even want to be in the lane in a car).// I ride way to the left of the #1 lane to give them plenty of space to pass through, unless I'm going at the CA standard speed range (65-85), you've got to be nuts to try lane splitting at those speeds.
Z-clipped: Welcome to the thread where a bunch of automobile drivers stop willfully ignoring the presence and safety of motorcyclists just long enough to wag their fingers at them for "dangerous behavior" while simultaneously texting, putting on makeup, eating a Big Mac, posting to Fark, and disciplining their crotchfruit in the back seat.And all because they're butthurt that someone who chose to drive a smaller vehicle is able to pass them in a traffic jam.As someone who has ridden all year every year, for two decades: Please, please... just shut the hell up and go back to ignoring me. After all these years of learning how to survive your indifference, entitlement, and stupidity, I now find it preferable.
Z-clipped: Mostly, I attempt to minimize your inattentiveness as a factor
Z-clipped: Tourney3p0: No one respects you as a person.My point exactly. I wasn't considered a person when I was driving legally and defensively.
doyner: flucto: Beerguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZsBlame seems pretty clear in that one.The guy crossing double yellow lines plus solid white, or the guy traveling at 10 times the speed of other traffic?
Sin_City_Superhero: Z-clipped, you have admitted to driving 160 mph, flouting traffic laws, provoking cops, etc. This is illegal, irresponsible, self-entitled and unsafe behavior. I hope that your license is suspended, and you realize that driving is a priviledge, not a right.
pharmacide: Sin_City_Superhero: Z-clipped, you have admitted to driving 160 mph, flouting traffic laws, provoking cops, etc. This is illegal, irresponsible, self-entitled and unsafe behavior. I hope that your license is suspended, and you realize that driving is a priviledge, not a right.Eh I hope he just farks up, wrecks, and dies. Is that wrong?
Tumunga: doyner: flucto: Beerguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZsBlame seems pretty clear in that one.The guy crossing double yellow lines plus solid white, or the guy traveling at 10 times the speed of other traffic?How many time did the motorcyclist cross the solid double yellow, and white lines while riding?
Z-clipped: Sin_City_Superhero: And THAT'S why you're an asshole.Right. It doesn't matter how much of an asshole everyone else on the road is, or that they would happily kill me to get to Qdoba five minutes earlier. All that matters is that I'M the asshole because I'm doing something you don't approve of.Enjoy your coffee. Be sure to text your BFF Jill about how good it is.
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