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(Huffington Post)   President Obama's fanboys need to get realistic about his second term, because it's Washington after all   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 31
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2013-01-19 01:32:57 PM
7 votes:
I've said this before in other threads and I'll gladly say it again here:

Obama destroyed the GOP in November, forcing the GOP into a cannibalistic loop where they're turning on each other. Then, a month later, he reams them raw on national TV over the fiscal deal, forcing their super-rich Masters to eat a considerable tax increase and say 'thank you' for it.

And not even a week ago, unloaded on them with 23 new Executive Orders that are perceived by a majority of Americans as even-handed, rational, logical and well-designed and all of them perceived by the GOP as being arrows aimed at the heart of the 2nd Amendment, forcing the GOP and their pants-shiatting adherents to freak out on a daily basis in front of the rest of America.

And we haven't even seen his second inauguration yet.

The GOP is in for a very very long and painful 4 years.

Biden/Warren 2016
2013-01-19 01:51:03 PM
5 votes:
Wow, how short some people's memories are. I remember the national mood just prior to Obama taking office. My company had already laid off a third of its staff and I was waiting for the ax to fall (thankfully, it never did). People were awaiting the start of a new depression that would make the old one look like a walk in the park. The nation's finances were teetering on the edge of disaster, Everyone's retirement accounts had evaporated. The "misery index" is worse now than it was then? I don't think so.
2013-01-19 01:46:59 PM
4 votes:

SkinnyHead: Unemployment rate was lower under Bush.


And then it got higher because of Bush.

Congrats.
2013-01-19 01:20:15 PM
4 votes:
I would take President Obama spending every day for the next four years waking up at noon, playing Call of Duty for 6 hours, then downing a Stuffed Crust and 12 pack of Natty Light and watching Adult Swim until 2am, then Mitt Romney on his best day.

/In other words, Biden '16
2013-01-19 12:37:56 PM
4 votes:
President Obama has forced the Republicans to retreat on the economy twice in one month, and his second term hasn't even started yet.  Sorry if that makes me smile.
2013-01-19 12:10:37 PM
4 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: Did subby mean 'plurality of Americans' when he said 'Obama's fanboys'?


I', pretty sure subby means, "OW!  MY BUTT HURTS!!"
2013-01-19 01:44:22 PM
3 votes:

SkinnyHead: Blue_Blazer: SkinnyHead: Lionel Mandrake: Imagine how miserable people would be with a Republican in office.

Remember the GW Bush years?  They call those the good old days.

Who does? Bin Laden and Qaddafi? Lehman Bros? Haliburton?

Unemployment rate was lower under Bush.  Misery Index was lower under Bush.  Misery Index has gone up under Obama, which means that people are more miserable now than when he took office.


It's almost as if a major crisis happened in the financial markets which resulted in the largest recession in a generation and the slow but steady recovery that resulted afterward.

Nah...it's all Obama's fault.
2013-01-19 01:42:41 PM
3 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Yeah, you should be sorry that people are retreating on the economy because of the President.


Not really.

The last thing this country needs is more economic policy from the Republicans.
2013-01-19 02:15:39 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: Blue_Blazer: Maybe the House should do their farking jobs instead of talking about rape and the pill. Obama can only do so much. Or perhaps you think he should just disband the worthless House. I agree with you. Good idea.

The House is doing its job.  They're representing the people.  They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama.  If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House.  (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

The Senate is not doing its job.  Senate democrats won't even pass a budget.


If it was really the People's House, then it would be majority Democrat (since more people voted for Democrat Representatives than Republican Representatives).

The only reason the GOP still has its majority is because it has the upperhand when it comes to Gerrymandering.
2013-01-19 01:49:52 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: Blue_Blazer: SkinnyHead: Lionel Mandrake: Imagine how miserable people would be with a Republican in office.

Remember the GW Bush years?  They call those the good old days.

Who does? Bin Laden and Qaddafi? Lehman Bros? Haliburton?

Unemployment rate was lower under Bush.  Misery Index was lower under Bush.  Misery Index has gone up under Obama, which means that people are more miserable now than when he took office.


Maybe the House should do their farking jobs instead of talking about rape and the pill. Obama can only do so much. Or perhaps you think he should just disband the worthless House. I agree with you. Good idea.
2013-01-19 01:42:23 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat: President Obama has forced the Republicans to retreat on the economy twice in one month, and his second term hasn't even started yet.  Sorry if that makes me smile.

Yeah, you should be sorry that people are retreating on the economy because of the President.

Jobz? Whar are they?

How is that jobz council going? Meet at all, I don't know, in the last year?


It's not the responsibility of the Executive Office to offer up jobs legislation. They can but make recommendations to the Congress.

The Congress, however, has spent the last two years trying to pass bills redefining rape, repealing Obamacare, and renaming post offices.

I know you know all of this, silly troll, I merely repeat these well-known facts for anyone who was working under the mistaken assumption that the President is responsible for creating jobs.
2013-01-19 01:30:51 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: Lionel Mandrake: Imagine how miserable people would be with a Republican in office.

Remember the GW Bush years?  They call those the good old days.


Who does? Bin Laden and Qaddafi? Lehman Bros? Haliburton?
2013-01-19 01:27:54 PM
2 votes:
I don't think any of us are expecting too much. But shhhh, we don't want to destroy the myth of "Obamessiah." It's the only thing the losers have left--the belief that we all thought Obama was our savior, and he didn't deliver. It's the only way they can keep convincing themselves that somehow they won.
2013-01-19 01:26:46 PM
2 votes:
I hate those sort of polls - Do you think the president will do more, less or the same in the next four years as in the previous four?

I have no idea what Obama wants to do in the next four years, and Obama himself may say, he's got a list right now but there's bound to be things that get added or changed over the next 1460 days.

I would say, I think he's gotten over wanting to even try to work with the rabid ferrets on the opposing side, so he's less likely to waste time or political capital trying to compromise with the Party of No. Unless there's a major shakeup in favor of the Rs in the 2014 mid terms, they won't have the ability to oppose him more forcefully than in the past, so I'd guess things are slightly more in Obama's favor than previously.
2013-01-19 01:18:14 PM
2 votes:

SkinnyHead: The article says that there is more optimism than pessimism about Obama's 2nd term.  But the poll numbers don't support that.  A majority expect things to stay the same or get worse.  Seeing as how people are more miserable now than when Obama took office, if you think things are going to stay the same, that's not being very optimistic.


Imagine how miserable people would be with a Republican in office.
2013-01-19 11:37:26 PM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: TV's Vinnie: I wonder how Mister Tea Party Conservatives of America's welfare paperwork is coming along now?
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I wonder if Duchess is aware that Tea Partiers are not smart enough to understand what she wrote? I mean some of those words had 3 syllables!


Added bonus: some of those teabilly farksticks benefit from those programs but excuse it because they're white.
2013-01-19 09:48:13 PM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: whidbey: Because acknowledging 4 years of a sane Presidency dogged by childish right-wing bullshiat constitutes fanboy propaganda. and you're playing the victim card.

Who said I was a right-winger? He is right, historically 8-year presidencies haven't ended well. At least, the last two didn't (Clinton - stock market crash in spring of 2000 and Bush, well, that is obvious)


I didn't say you were.

It does bug me just a bit when people try to equate the social progress the Democrats are attempting to make with the failed ideology of the other major political opposition in this country.
2013-01-19 08:56:06 PM
1 votes:
SillyHeadCheese is really making me feel great about voting Obama/Biden.
2013-01-19 07:32:15 PM
1 votes:

born_yesterday: I think the competent leadership shown by Ryan in Congress and the stories of how fairly Romney ran his campaign and treated his staffers clearly shows the mistake we made in the last election.


[warning: csb ahead]

I was reading the paper today while eating breakfast at the coffee shop. I came across the opinions. There was a guy that sent something in talking about how it was "perplexing" to him that Obama won reelection, especially considering a poll that he saw which concluded that the majority of Americans think the country is on the wrong path. Then he went on to say something about how maybe people are in the dark because they don't have cable and therefore have no access to FOX news. I had a couple people looking at me funny while I sat there barely able to control my maniacal laugh.

I thought it was great that he made the assumptions:
1) people would be more enlightened if they increased their FOX intake
2) people that don't watch FOX would be persuaded if they watched it
3) people that don't have cable don't have access to FOX, because apparently the internet hasn't been invented yet
4) Just because people think the country is on the wrong track they would pin it all on Obama
5) People would forget that we weren't exactly on the best path as of January 2009 when Obama was sworn in
6) These people that are unhappy would think that Romney would put the country on the track they wanted us to be on
6) That his idiotic opinion would do anything but serve as comedic fodder for people that aren't goddamn morons
2013-01-19 06:51:12 PM
1 votes:

djkutch: cc_rider: veale728: SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

Have you been living under a bridge the last couple years?

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Skinnyhead fascinates me. The House represents the people. Obama elected, by the nation's people, doesn't appear to represent anyone but himself. If he isn't trolling, and is for real, I wonder what color the sky is in his world.



Derple
2013-01-19 06:16:51 PM
1 votes:
If you really want to get "realistic," subby, we've had over 4 years of the most sane Presidency this country has had in untold decades.

And then there were the childish selfish meanspirited antics of the right-wing in this country. Not surprising that you would want to give them such a clean pass.
2013-01-19 05:46:28 PM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Silly Jesus: Barack Hussein Obama, MMM, MMM, MMM.

Says the guy that admitted on national TV (Letterman) that he can't do 7th grade math:

"Yes, that includes me. We just know more stuff than those Tea Party ding dongs. Like gender studies. Like cultural antecedents of contemporary meta-fiction. I don't think half of those red state clowns made it through grade school."
- Barky Obama on Oprah, regarding Ivy Leaguers thinking they're better than everyone else.

Mmmmmmmmy ass.


You probably believe that Tommy Hilfiger admitted he was part of the Church of Satan on Oprah, too, don't you.
2013-01-19 05:38:30 PM
1 votes:
As a center right former Republican, I expect Obama to be socially moderate and fiscally conservative, like he was all of his first four years. I am actually against most liberal economic policies, aside from making good on existing entitlements by providing a safety net for individuals (not corporations) and doing what he can to level the playing field. I expect him to do about 20% on that, due to obstructionism and hate from the right.

I would have expected Romney to do -1000% of whats important to me. I guess that makes me a fanboy...
2013-01-19 04:54:52 PM
1 votes:

AverageJoe77: So tenpoundsofderp admits the President didn't use executive orders? To prove how bad the President is at leading, my favorite troll has to let go one of the rights newest talking points?


They have more derp than you have facts, my friend.
2013-01-19 02:48:29 PM
1 votes:

veale728: SkinnyHead: The House is doing its job. They're representing the people. They were elected by the same voters that elected Obama. If Obama expects to govern, he's got to put aside his arrogance and work with the People's House. (I don't know what your reference to rape is supposed to mean)

Have you been living under a bridge the last couple years?


Probably on a compound somewhere stroking his guns.
2013-01-19 02:25:58 PM
1 votes:
President Obama's fanboys need to get realistic about his second term, because it's Washington a Republican-controlled hyper-obstructionist Congress after all.

FTFS
2013-01-19 02:04:18 PM
1 votes:

Kurmudgeon: Infernalist: The GOP is in for a very very long and painful 4 years.

Hopefully it's for longer than that.


Oh, unless there's a MAJOR shift sometime between now and 2016, Uncle Joe is going to be taking the big seat. I would love to see Corey Booker or Elizabeth Warren in the VP seat, as well.
2013-01-19 02:00:42 PM
1 votes:
I'd rather be an Obama fan boy than a Limbaugh fan boy. I've heard what he does to his cabana boys and can only imagine my fate.
2013-01-19 01:47:24 PM
1 votes:
Are these the same fanboys that are critical of President Obama's policies rather than his existence?
2013-01-19 01:23:38 PM
1 votes:

MFAWG: Mentat: President Obama has forced the Republicans to retreat on the economy twice in one month, and his second term hasn't even started yet.  Sorry if that makes me smile.

They're starting to back up on the debt limit as well. So there's that.


They had to. They don't have the political power to deal with it right now. Besides, there's bigger fish to fry.

If I was a republican stratagist, I'd sit all the congresscritters down and explain a workable strategy:

Raise the debt ceiling. The American people didn't like it much when you messed with it last time, and it'd be a shame to not get reelected over this stupidity.
Ignore tax issues. We just made the majority of the Bush temporary tax cuts permanent. That's probably enough on this subject for this session.
Ignore all spending legislation and allow the sequester to take hold. Any senate submitted bills on this subject must die. If we do nothing, there will be cuts.
Most important, don't say a farking word about rape, contraceptives or vaginas in general until AFTER the budget debate. It'll just derail the conversation and tip all the power back to the democrats.

/I'm thinking the last one will never happen
//they're pretty much farkered
2013-01-19 12:08:33 PM
1 votes:
Did subby mean 'plurality of Americans' when he said 'Obama's fanboys'?
 
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