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(Salon)   Columnist who wrote a scathing critique on Richard Marx is now getting calls and emails from Marx demanding a meeting and retraction, and Marx has vowed he won't stop until he's satisfied. Who knew criticizing Richard Marx was such a hazard?   (salon.com) divider line 101
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2013-01-19 06:37:53 PM

saturn badger: Kyosuke: swahnhennessy: Kyosuke: Interesting. I follow Richard Marx on Twitter

Why?

You'll figure it out.

I don't get it. Just boring nonsense.


I guess I overestimated.
 
2013-01-19 06:38:39 PM
"So some guy ... is bashing me on the radio for not walking in pouring rain with bronchitis to do his show?" he wrote. "Pussy move."

It escalated from there, with Marx calling the host and his producer "coward," "douchebag" and "jerk."


So his hometown doesn't read his feed?

I'll go with pot, kettle, black here and leave it at that.

/too old to know who he is
//don't care
 
2013-01-19 06:39:59 PM

loveblondieo: I will admit to having a crush on him when this video was out.


I made it about a minute. Maybe a few more seconds.

Hey, Marx! You suck!

Now maybe he will come at me.
 
2013-01-19 07:42:47 PM
Last I heard from him he was nibbling at Brad Paisley's ankle. I'm glad he's not dead.
 
2013-01-19 08:05:18 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Michael Bolton once killed a homeless guy for spilling his busket on his stingray boots.


One of my favorite Michael Bolton stories was from Conan O'Brien. Apparently they used to play against each other in NBC corporate softball games. Conan made some crack about him on the show and Bolton responded in print that (paraphrasing here) "Next time I play against him, I'm going to throw a softball through his fat, Irish head." I wish I could find the youtube link...
 
2013-01-19 08:10:21 PM
He should have known better. Criticism is one of the hazards of fame (even if that fame was fleeting).

As for the opinions of a blogger on a self-proclaimed pissant blog, it don't mean nothin'. Besides, there's
nothing you can do about it so he needs to grow up and act like a big boy now,
 
2013-01-19 08:14:31 PM

Midnight Rambler: I'm certainly not going to white knight Richard Marx, but I've met him and he was genuinely nice and down-to-earth.

And I think he got the best of the writer here.


THIS.

Also, I love 'Hazard', and 'Right Here Waiting' is pretty good love song.
 
2013-01-19 08:16:57 PM

marxychick1: Klippoklondike: There is a Farkette who is obsessed with Marx and only posts in threads about him.  Let's see if she shows up.

Marx's hair was goofy but he had a few good songs.

You rang? Although I do pop up in other threads from time to time ;-)

Have to say I'm loving all the good Richard references in this thread. Really beats all the idiots saying "Richard who?" Google is your friend :-) I can' only spread the good word of Marx so far.

This isn't the first time Richard has called someone out on their dishonesty. Did the same thing recently with a singer named Will Hoge.Did the same thing in the '80s with Adam Curry.

Is it a publicity attempt? Maybe. Does Richard have thin skin. Possibly, although I doubt it. People have been slagging him off for years and his career has endured. Perhaps he genuinely grows tired of the cowardly bullshiat. And for that I applaud him. his Twitter is usually a fun, random forum, but things like this come up from time to time. it happens.


Glad you showed up  :)
 
2013-01-19 08:25:09 PM

John Buck 41: marxychick1: Klippoklondike: There is a Farkette who is obsessed with Marx and only posts in threads about him.  Let's see if she shows up.

Marx's hair was goofy but he had a few good songs.

You rang? Although I do pop up in other threads from time to time ;-)

Have to say I'm loving all the good Richard references in this thread. Really beats all the idiots saying "Richard who?" Google is your friend :-) I can' only spread the good word of Marx so far.

This isn't the first time Richard has called someone out on their dishonesty. Did the same thing recently with a singer named Will Hoge.Did the same thing in the '80s with Adam Curry.

Is it a publicity attempt? Maybe. Does Richard have thin skin. Possibly, although I doubt it. People have been slagging him off for years and his career has endured. Perhaps he genuinely grows tired of the cowardly bullshiat. And for that I applaud him. his Twitter is usually a fun, random forum, but things like this come up from time to time. it happens.

Glad you showed up  :)


I'd have been here sooner but I'm recovering for gallbladder surgery. But a call from the Marxsignal (a silhouette of a poofy mullet in the night sky) never goes unanswered. The Gospel according to Richard must be spread ;-)
 
2013-01-19 08:26:21 PM

MagSeven: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Michael Bolton once killed a homeless guy for spilling his busket on his stingray boots.

One of my favorite Michael Bolton stories was from Conan O'Brien. Apparently they used to play against each other in NBC corporate softball games. Conan made some crack about him on the show and Bolton responded in print that (paraphrasing here) "Next time I play against him, I'm going to throw a softball through his fat, Irish head." I wish I could find the youtube link...


Bolton definitely has a sense of humor. Remember the free-range chickens benefit concert skit on SNL?
 
2013-01-19 08:53:44 PM
That's just the way it is!
 
2013-01-19 08:58:02 PM

John Buck 41: Also, I love 'Hazard'


But who was the killer? WHO WAS THE KILLER?!?!?
 
2013-01-19 09:07:19 PM

marxychick1: John Buck 41: marxychick1: Klippoklondike: There is a Farkette who is obsessed with Marx and only posts in threads about him.  Let's see if she shows up.

Marx's hair was goofy but he had a few good songs.

You rang? Although I do pop up in other threads from time to time ;-)

Have to say I'm loving all the good Richard references in this thread. Really beats all the idiots saying "Richard who?" Google is your friend :-) I can' only spread the good word of Marx so far.

This isn't the first time Richard has called someone out on their dishonesty. Did the same thing recently with a singer named Will Hoge.Did the same thing in the '80s with Adam Curry.

Is it a publicity attempt? Maybe. Does Richard have thin skin. Possibly, although I doubt it. People have been slagging him off for years and his career has endured. Perhaps he genuinely grows tired of the cowardly bullshiat. And for that I applaud him. his Twitter is usually a fun, random forum, but things like this come up from time to time. it happens.

Glad you showed up  :)

I'd have been here sooner but I'm recovering for gallbladder surgery. But a call from the Marxsignal (a silhouette of a poofy mullet in the night sky) never goes unanswered. The Gospel according to Richard must be spread ;-)


Hope you are recovering nicely.
 
2013-01-19 09:09:35 PM

CarnySaur: John Buck 41: Also, I love 'Hazard'

But who was the killer? WHO WAS THE KILLER?!?!?


I don't know. That has no bearing on how or why I find the song fascinating, however.,
 
2013-01-19 09:13:21 PM
He's alright. Don't nobody worry about him.
 
2013-01-19 09:18:32 PM

John Buck 41:
Hope you are recovering nicely.


Feeling great. Vicodin helps :-)

John Buck 41: CarnySaur: John Buck 41: Also, I love 'Hazard'

But who was the killer? WHO WAS THE KILLER?!?!?

I don't know. That has no bearing on how or why I find the song fascinating, however.,


In concert, Richard sas joked that the killer was Regis Philbin. Personally, I find that answer satisfying.
 
2013-01-19 09:25:03 PM

marxychick1: John Buck 41:
Hope you are recovering nicely.

Feeling great. Vicodin helps :-)

John Buck 41: CarnySaur: John Buck 41: Also, I love 'Hazard'

But who was the killer? WHO WAS THE KILLER?!?!?

I don't know. That has no bearing on how or why I find the song fascinating, however.,

In concert, Richard sas joked that the killer was Regis Philbin. Personally, I find that answer satisfying.


I'd've guessed Dave Letterman.

Glad the Vic is helping.
 
2013-01-19 09:59:43 PM
marxychick1: But a call from the Marxsignal (a silhouette of a poofy mullet in the night sky) never goes unanswered.

That is just plain awesome, and made me laugh out loud and wake up my wife.

/Marx is cool in my book. Hell of a songwriter/producer, and a very cool dude from what I've heard. Good on him for calling out the blogger.
 
2013-01-19 10:00:39 PM
The wife and I actually saw him live a couple weeks ago.

He does an 'unplugged' thing were its him, and acoustic guitar and a piano.

I was expecting the show to suck, because hey, Richard Marx. The wife made me go!

He was surprisingly engaging, witty , funny as shiat, and yes, he made fun of his own mullet. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Yea, be played a couple of the sappy slow ones, but he did a bunch of pretty well written upbeat stuff too. PLus, a song he recorded with his kids was suprisingly excellent. He played his part live while showing video of them playing theres.

All in all, 50 bucks well spent.
 
2013-01-19 10:06:35 PM

Monster Island: marxychick1: But a call from the Marxsignal (a silhouette of a poofy mullet in the night sky) never goes unanswered.

That is just plain awesome, and made me laugh out loud and wake up my wife.

/Marx is cool in my book. Hell of a songwriter/producer, and a very cool dude from what I've heard. Good on him for calling out the blogger.


Sorry for waking your wife, but you just made my night by laughing at my Vicodin-induced humor. Much thanks to you, sir!

xaks: The wife and I actually saw him live a couple weeks ago.

He does an 'unplugged' thing were its him, and acoustic guitar and a piano.

I was expecting the show to suck, because hey, Richard Marx. The wife made me go!

He was surprisingly engaging, witty , funny as shiat, and yes, he made fun of his own mullet. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Yea, be played a couple of the sappy slow ones, but he did a bunch of pretty well written upbeat stuff too. PLus, a song he recorded with his kids was suprisingly excellent. He played his part live while showing video of them playing theres.

All in all, 50 bucks well spent.


Glad to hear you liked the show. Some of his newer, more obscure stuff is some of my favorite work of his.
 
2013-01-19 10:40:34 PM

RedPhoenix122: Well, if you're smart and invest wisely, instead of blowing it all on Hammer Pants...


this is where they all go wrong...
 
2013-01-19 10:51:19 PM
Not surprised. According to legend (read: VH1), he sent his demo tape to every production company twice before he got a record deal.

This is simply Round 1.
 
2013-01-19 11:34:57 PM
Only came here to say I used to wear out some his tapes. Yes, cassette tapes.
 
2013-01-19 11:46:47 PM
what, consequences for being insulting to someone. I didn't think anyone remembered the concept.
 
2013-01-19 11:47:20 PM

CarnySaur: John Buck 41: Also, I love 'Hazard'

But who was the killer? WHO WAS THE KILLER?!?!?


JR Ewing's sister, in league with Laura Palmer's dad and the Smoke Monster from Lost.
 
2013-01-20 12:11:22 AM
I actually agree with marx's letter...

The blogger comes across as the douche here
 
2013-01-20 12:11:42 AM
I follow Marx on Twitter and he will blow the fark up at anyone over anything and he never lets anything go. If he thinks for a second you're being just a little bit crappy he goes off like nut. A radio dj said something about him he wasn't happy about and did not stop ranting for a long time and got even more pissed cause the dj wouldn't leave the radio station right then and come to his hotel so Marx could biatch to his face.
 
2013-01-20 12:49:29 AM
I blame angels
 
2013-01-20 01:54:19 AM
You think Richard Marx is bad? You should try criticizing Peter Cetera. I wrote a negative review on one of Cetera's solo projects and he called me on the phone to tell me he was going to shove a knife into my face. Or at least that's what I think he said. His voice was a couple of octaves above a normal human voice, so maybe I didn't understand.
 
2013-01-20 02:29:05 AM
Sounds like Marx suffers from "Do you know who I am?" disease...
 
2013-01-20 02:59:33 AM
Who the fark is Richard Marx and why should anyone care?
 
2013-01-20 03:48:39 AM

marxychick1: This isn't the first time Richard has called someone out on their dishonesty.


How does a guy expressing an opinion classify as dishonesty? I'm just curious.
 
2013-01-20 04:57:01 AM
Wow. I can't believe I read the whole article!

My first exposure to Richard Marx was my sister blasting it on the drive to and from high school circa 1998.

I wish the original article was there to read as well as his follow-up. I wonder if the writer really was as yellow as Richard Marx claims.

Does he miss his grandfather Karl? :)
 
2013-01-20 05:47:12 AM
Marxychick1"wall of blubbering text"

Settle down big girl, he's still not going to have sex with you
 
2013-01-20 06:16:13 AM

JohnAnnArbor: Bolton definitely has a sense of humor. Remember the free-range chickens benefit concert skit on SNL?


I remember that. Bolton had a look on his face toward the end like "How the hell did I let myself get roped into this?"
 
2013-01-20 06:43:44 AM
 
2013-01-20 06:48:47 AM
If I were the columist, I'd be very public about saying something like "I might have been open to a meeting and retraction, but I'm not going to respond to anyone who's quick to go to serious complaining"
 
2013-01-20 07:45:43 AM
My sister loved richard marx in the 80s. He was even nice enough to do a show in my city(population 16,000 at the time) in South Dakota. I always felt bad that he lost $5000 doing it.
 
2013-01-20 08:35:21 AM
If that article is any indication, Richard Marx has learned that you can spew any kind of misogynistic bullshiat with impunity once you reached complete irrelevance.

Before I thought Marx was an okay dude (20 years ago, I guess), because of his "there are more important things than having number so-and-so on the charts" -- paraphrasing him there, actually.

Anyway, I have always thought his music sucked squirrel balls. He always had to to get his stupid FARKing outtro riffs in there, because, FSM forbid, the song end with the emphasis on someone else in the band.

Looks like his douche style of music-writing has been caught by his own personality.

He and Sugar Gay should fight to the death.
 
2013-01-20 11:24:36 AM

Neums: marxychick1: This isn't the first time Richard has called someone out on their dishonesty.

How does a guy expressing an opinion classify as dishonesty? I'm just curious.


Dishonesty was the wrong word. More disingenuous really.

OnlyLivingWitness: Marxychick1"wall of blubbering text"

Settle down big girl, he's still not going to have sex with you


This is the exact thing Marx is talking about. Would you say that to someone's face? Of course not, because hopefully your parents raised you better than that, and because you're probably a farking coward. For the record, I'm married to someone who doesn't mind my fat ass one bit and I get plenty. How are you doing in that department, Studman69?
 
2013-01-20 11:46:55 AM
If you have a wet dream, you'll leave dick marks on the sheets.
 
2013-01-20 03:00:01 PM

marxychick1: Dishonesty was the wrong word. More disingenuous really.


I don't see how, after having formed an opinion of the guy from what he knew of him (which he'd admitted was very little), what he said is considered disingenuous. He didn't call Marx "shameless" as a matter of fact (which is what Marx is making it sound like and getting all up in arms about). Why should his kids even care what some "pissant" blogger says about their dad.

"What? A guy in a blog said Dad was shameless? Well, that's his opinion. Whatever. HE'S OUR FATHER AND WE KNOW BETTER."

There. Done.

Dude has thin skin and is a bully. He thought he could play the tough guy and pull a "Come at me, bro" to the writer, expecting the guy to back down and cower in fear to the Power of Marx. A writer who even considers himself a nobody in the grand scheme of things.
 
2013-01-20 03:27:06 PM
dude got marXed
 
2013-01-20 03:28:33 PM

Neums: marxychick1: Dishonesty was the wrong word. More disingenuous really.

I don't see how, after having formed an opinion of the guy from what he knew of him (which he'd admitted was very little), what he said is considered disingenuous. He didn't call Marx "shameless" as a matter of fact (which is what Marx is making it sound like and getting all up in arms about). Why should his kids even care what some "pissant" blogger says about their dad.

"What? A guy in a blog said Dad was shameless? Well, that's his opinion. Whatever. HE'S OUR FATHER AND WE KNOW BETTER."

There. Done.

Dude has thin skin and is a bully. He thought he could play the tough guy and pull a "Come at me, bro" to the writer, expecting the guy to back down and cower in fear to the Power of Marx. A writer who even considers himself a nobody in the grand scheme of things.


What you're doing is assuming that all the info the writer had about Richard was correct. What I'm doing is assuming all the info Richard provided (about tipping and such) is correct. It may be more gray than black & white. All I'm trying to say is that Richard Marx chose to drag this out for his own reasons- I don't know what they are, but I find it entertaining, and I choose to favor the side of the person who's career I've been following for most of my life. Would you expect me to be impartial here?
 
2013-01-20 03:44:46 PM

marxychick1: Neums: marxychick1: Dishonesty was the wrong word. More disingenuous really.

I don't see how, after having formed an opinion of the guy from what he knew of him (which he'd admitted was very little), what he said is considered disingenuous. He didn't call Marx "shameless" as a matter of fact (which is what Marx is making it sound like and getting all up in arms about). Why should his kids even care what some "pissant" blogger says about their dad.

"What? A guy in a blog said Dad was shameless? Well, that's his opinion. Whatever. HE'S OUR FATHER AND WE KNOW BETTER."

There. Done.

Dude has thin skin and is a bully. He thought he could play the tough guy and pull a "Come at me, bro" to the writer, expecting the guy to back down and cower in fear to the Power of Marx. A writer who even considers himself a nobody in the grand scheme of things.

What you're doing is assuming that all the info the writer had about Richard was correct. What I'm doing is assuming all the info Richard provided (about tipping and such) is correct. It may be more gray than black & white. All I'm trying to say is that Richard Marx chose to drag this out for his own reasons- I don't know what they are, but I find it entertaining, and I choose to favor the side of the person who's career I've been following for most of my life. Would you expect me to be impartial here?


No, I don't, and it's cool you feel so strongly about it.

All I'm saying is that he was provided the "tipping" information by an editor who said he experienced that. A lot of people are asking just how exactly an editor would know that. The easiest explanation is that this editor worked at a restaurant that Marx most likely frequented while he was on his way to working to be an editor (like a college job, I'd think). McClelland only wrote that believing it to be true because his boss told him, and he has no reason not to trust his boss. If anyone could be accused of being disingenuous, it's the editor. And, Frankly, neither you nor I know the truth of the situation because we weren't there to witness it.
 
2013-01-20 03:53:51 PM

Neums: marxychick1: Neums: marxychick1: Dishonesty was the wrong word. More disingenuous really.

I don't see how, after having formed an opinion of the guy from what he knew of him (which he'd admitted was very little), what he said is considered disingenuous. He didn't call Marx "shameless" as a matter of fact (which is what Marx is making it sound like and getting all up in arms about). Why should his kids even care what some "pissant" blogger says about their dad.

"What? A guy in a blog said Dad was shameless? Well, that's his opinion. Whatever. HE'S OUR FATHER AND WE KNOW BETTER."

There. Done.

Dude has thin skin and is a bully. He thought he could play the tough guy and pull a "Come at me, bro" to the writer, expecting the guy to back down and cower in fear to the Power of Marx. A writer who even considers himself a nobody in the grand scheme of things.

What you're doing is assuming that all the info the writer had about Richard was correct. What I'm doing is assuming all the info Richard provided (about tipping and such) is correct. It may be more gray than black & white. All I'm trying to say is that Richard Marx chose to drag this out for his own reasons- I don't know what they are, but I find it entertaining, and I choose to favor the side of the person who's career I've been following for most of my life. Would you expect me to be impartial here?

No, I don't, and it's cool you feel so strongly about it.

All I'm saying is that he was provided the "tipping" information by an editor who said he experienced that. A lot of people are asking just how exactly an editor would know that. The easiest explanation is that this editor worked at a restaurant that Marx most likely frequented while he was on his way to working to be an editor (like a college job, I'd think). McClelland only wrote that believing it to be true because his boss told him, and he has no reason not to trust his boss. If anyone could be accused of being disingenuous, it's the editor. And, Frankly ...


I can agree with everything you said. I'm just quick to defending the honor of Richard Marx, even when I'm full of shiat ;-) Thanks for understanding that I don't take it nearly as seriously as I may portray here. I just like the discussion. That's why I love Fark.
 
2013-01-20 06:33:27 PM
This is so farking soft Rock 'n Roll.
 
2013-01-20 07:29:53 PM
I always loved his song, Touch of Heaven. Makes me want to do wicked things.
 
2013-01-20 08:07:35 PM

Trixie212: I always loved his song, Touch of Heaven. Makes me want to do wicked things.


userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2013-01-20 10:22:12 PM
Jesus Christ, what a thin-skinned insecure little manchild. You're (sorta) famous, people are going to talk shiat about you, grow the fark up and ignore it.

Also, why would you be insulted if someone mistakenly calls your wife a model? That means that they think she's attractive enough to have been a model, dumbass. Its an indirect compliment!

Second, to assume you can crawl inside my head and know what my motivation is for writing a song is arrogance reserved for the likes of Hitler and Stalin.

Yep, he even did a Godwin. Wow.

Go wash the sand out of your vagina Marx.
 
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