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(Lifehacker)   Looking to increase sales at historic rates, Microsoft to increase the price of Windows 8 upgrades from $40 to $200   (lifehacker.com) divider line 101
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2013-01-19 12:23:31 PM  
This was a short time promotion from the beginning. Lifehacker FAIL.
 
2013-01-19 12:24:14 PM  
So Microsoft can't get people to upgrade currently at $40 so they think if they charge $200 people will think it's more worthwhile? Should be interesting to see how much further their Windows 8 upgrade numbers plummet over the next quarters.
 
2013-01-19 12:27:21 PM  
I still can't figure out why anyone would want Windows 8 on a desktop PC. Is an immovable tablet something people actually want?
 
2013-01-19 12:29:22 PM  
Not if they paid me $200.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:13 PM  

Iceman_Cometh: Not if they paid me $200.


^^ That
 
2013-01-19 12:32:47 PM  
I can't wait to read the comments from the 'soft fanboys. They're hilarious.
 
2013-01-19 12:39:46 PM  
In b4 blind Windows 8 hate ..
In b4 some 45 year old 12 year old randomly labels people fanboys..

Oh wait.. That's already happened...

/paid for Windows 8
/Prefer it over 7
 
2013-01-19 12:41:10 PM  
The computer currently being shipped to me shipped with Windows 7, so I doubt I'll be upgrading anytime soon.  That said, I haven't seen anything to make me really hate Windows 8 except that the tiles screen or start screen or whatever always looks kind of ugly in their commercials.
 
2013-01-19 12:45:05 PM  

kalor: So Microsoft can't get people to upgrade currently at $40 so they think if they charge $200 people will think it's more worthwhile?


Sad thing is, that seems to work for XBOX Live. The fanboys genuinely seem to believe that since it costs more, it's better.

/works for NIKE, too
 
2013-01-19 12:47:03 PM  
I picked it up for $14.99 using some site somebody posted on reddit. Other than the new start page, it's not that different from Windows 7.
 
2013-01-19 12:55:50 PM  

bukketmaster: kalor: So Microsoft can't get people to upgrade currently at $40 so they think if they charge $200 people will think it's more worthwhile?

Sad thing is, that seems to work for XBOX Live. The fanboys genuinely seem to believe that since it costs more, it's better.

/works for NIKE, too


XBox Live was the best online game service for, what, 10 years? Only recently has Sony and Nintendo gotten their act together enough to release a product that can compare.
 
2013-01-19 12:56:23 PM  
Sweet! Now I can save $200 instead of $40. Thanks Microsoft!
 
2013-01-19 12:58:32 PM  
It was a limited time offer. That was known from the beginning, and I don't think anyone was expecting Win8 to outpace Windows 7, regardless of how good it was.

jayhawk88: bukketmaster: kalor: So Microsoft can't get people to upgrade currently at $40 so they think if they charge $200 people will think it's more worthwhile?

Sad thing is, that seems to work for XBOX Live. The fanboys genuinely seem to believe that since it costs more, it's better.

/works for NIKE, too

XBox Live was the best online game service for, what, 10 years? Only recently has Sony and Nintendo gotten their act together enough to release a product that can compare.


You defy the expectations your Fark handle gives me of you and post a good point. Well played, sir.
 
2013-01-19 12:59:35 PM  

jayhawk88: bukketmaster: kalor: So Microsoft can't get people to upgrade currently at $40 so they think if they charge $200 people will think it's more worthwhile?

Sad thing is, that seems to work for XBOX Live. The fanboys genuinely seem to believe that since it costs more, it's better.

/works for NIKE, too

XBox Live was the best online game service for, what, 10 years? Only recently has Sony and Nintendo gotten their act together enough to release a product that can compare.


PSN went down for over a month. Xbox Live has not.
 
2013-01-19 01:12:07 PM  
Apple only charges $20-30 to upgrade your OS. Why does Microsoft charge so much more?
 
2013-01-19 01:15:42 PM  

styckx: In b4 blind Windows 8 hate ..
In b4 some 45 year old 12 year old randomly labels people fanboys..

Oh wait.. That's already happened...

/paid for Windows 8
/Prefer it over 7


Honest question. Why? I'm thinking of building a gaming PC from the ground up and I'm wondering whether to get 7 or 8.

/ or I might just wait for the Steam console. Haven't decided yet.
 
2013-01-19 01:19:14 PM  

Carth: Apple only charges $20-30 to upgrade your OS. Why does Microsoft charge so much more?


Because Apple gets you on the hardware side of things.
 
2013-01-19 01:24:58 PM  

Carth: Apple only charges $20-30 to upgrade your OS. Why does Microsoft charge so much more?


Apple makes their money on the hardware, not the software. Even iTunes and the App Store are less than 10% of their revenue. Microsoft doesn't sell hardware, so they have to make their money off the software.

/yeah, I know, Surface, but that's not a significant revenue stream yet
 
2013-01-19 01:25:55 PM  

alwaysjaded: styckx: In b4 blind Windows 8 hate ..
In b4 some 45 year old 12 year old randomly labels people fanboys..

Oh wait.. That's already happened...

/paid for Windows 8
/Prefer it over 7

Honest question. Why? I'm thinking of building a gaming PC from the ground up and I'm wondering whether to get 7 or 8.

/ or I might just wait for the Steam console. Haven't decided yet.


For one.. I always pirated Windows. Until Windows 8 I have never owned a legit copy except if I bought a laptop and it came with it.. So for $40 it was low enough to finally go legit on the desktop for once. $200 would still enough to make me pirate it again though..  No OS with a 5 year shelf life and license for 1 PC is worth $200 to upgrade.. That's insanity.

So *for me* there is that huge difference. Just being honest here.

What I prefer.. Believe it or not the start screen is really useful but I'm on it maybe 5% of the time as I pin my most use apps to the taskbar.  Thirdly.. It runs damn good and the way they use the hibernate kernel feature to speed up bootup is a nice feature.For gaming.. *I* haven't had a problem but know a lot of developers are currently on a "we don't support Windows 8 kick".. So there is that chance you may need support for a game and not get it because you dared used a new OS.

So.. Yeah.. For $40 it's cheap enough to warrant it preferable over Windows 7 since you get the newest toys..  If I had paid $200 I would be pissed because at $200 it isn't worth the few cosmetic and performance differences.
 
2013-01-19 01:27:29 PM  

alwaysjaded: styckx: In b4 blind Windows 8 hate ..
In b4 some 45 year old 12 year old randomly labels people fanboys..

Oh wait.. That's already happened...

/paid for Windows 8
/Prefer it over 7

Honest question. Why? I'm thinking of building a gaming PC from the ground up and I'm wondering whether to get 7 or 8.

/ or I might just wait for the Steam console. Haven't decided yet.


If I'm going to upgrade or do a fresh install, I wait until the first service pack. I would avoid Win8 anyway.
 
2013-01-19 01:31:19 PM  

Marine1: It was a limited time offer. That was known from the beginning, and I don't think anyone was expecting Win8 to outpace Windows 7, regardless of how good it was.


No Windows upgrade has ever cost $200. OEM licenses for brand new computers barely cost over $100. I would also point out that the tiny performance improvements will actually only be enjoyed by 0.001% of users due to the fact that a seven year old PC works fine for almost everyone. Running a browser, Office, and casual games isn't actually hard. Slap a modern GPU into an old Core2 and you can still play every game except Crysis at top settings @1080p. All that Win8 offers that anyone will notice is the stupid Metro UI (why does an OS need two UIs?) which is really just Windows Media Center in green with the touchscreen enabled.
 
2013-01-19 01:38:17 PM  

madgonad: Marine1: It was a limited time offer. That was known from the beginning, and I don't think anyone was expecting Win8 to outpace Windows 7, regardless of how good it was.

No Windows upgrade has ever cost $200.


Yes they have.. Windows 8 comes in 1 flavor. Professional/Ultimate. Every Professional version of Windows  has cost 199.99 or higher. Windows 2000 Professional cost $219.99 to upgrade from Windows 98. Windows XP Professional upgrade cost $199.99. Vista Ultimate (Professional) upgrade was $219.99
 
2013-01-19 01:46:44 PM  

styckx: alwaysjaded: styckx: In b4 blind Windows 8 hate ..
In b4 some 45 year old 12 year old randomly labels people fanboys..

Oh wait.. That's already happened...

/paid for Windows 8
/Prefer it over 7

Honest question. Why? I'm thinking of building a gaming PC from the ground up and I'm wondering whether to get 7 or 8.

/ or I might just wait for the Steam console. Haven't decided yet.

For one.. I always pirated Windows. Until Windows 8 I have never owned a legit copy except if I bought a laptop and it came with it.. So for $40 it was low enough to finally go legit on the desktop for once. $200 would still enough to make me pirate it again though..  No OS with a 5 year shelf life and license for 1 PC is worth $200 to upgrade.. That's insanity.

So *for me* there is that huge difference. Just being honest here.

What I prefer.. Believe it or not the start screen is really useful but I'm on it maybe 5% of the time as I pin my most use apps to the taskbar.  Thirdly.. It runs damn good and the way they use the hibernate kernel feature to speed up bootup is a nice feature.For gaming.. *I* haven't had a problem but know a lot of developers are currently on a "we don't support Windows 8 kick".. So there is that chance you may need support for a game and not get it because you dared used a new OS.

So.. Yeah.. For $40 it's cheap enough to warrant it preferable over Windows 7 since you get the newest toys..  If I had paid $200 I would be pissed because at $200 it isn't worth the few cosmetic and performance differences.


I see. I understand the pirate thing. I frankensteined a cheap computer just so I would have something till I bought what I wanted. It has a "borrowed" W7 on it and it sucks. It's close to unusable. Can't wait to get a legit copy.

And twat_waffle, I just read an article about how W8 will have the walled garden approach so I'll just stick with 7. I'll probably wind up building a rig just for the living room anyway so I can play PC games on the couch. Thanks.
 
2013-01-19 01:51:21 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I picked it up for $14.99 using some site somebody posted on reddit. Other than the new start page, it's not that different from Windows 7.


They adopted the Apple approach to operating systems. Keep the same basic OS, add in some new features (Useless apps and bloat) that nobody asked for, and call it new.
 
2013-01-19 01:51:45 PM  

madgonad: . Slap a modern GPU into an old Core2 and you can still play every game except Crysis at top settings @1080p.


1080p is a meh computer resolution, just fyi
 
2013-01-19 02:03:38 PM  

madgonad: Marine1: It was a limited time offer. That was known from the beginning, and I don't think anyone was expecting Win8 to outpace Windows 7, regardless of how good it was.

Slap a modern GPU into an old Core2 and you can still play every game except Crysis at top settings @1080p.


lolololololololololol @ this statement..  You're the worst informed technology specialist I've ever seen on Fark.
 
2013-01-19 02:15:29 PM  
This should end well.
 
2013-01-19 02:18:27 PM  
It would matter if it was one cent or ten million dollars, I don't want it.
 
2013-01-19 02:21:06 PM  

madgonad:
No Windows upgrade has ever cost $200. OEM licenses for brand new computers barely cost over $100.


OEM licenses are only good for an initial install on one unit. If you upgrade your hardware, you can void the license, and render the OEM license null and void. There's ways around that, but they're not really legitimate, and most rely on Microsoft being cool about it.

Meanwhile, my full copy of Win 7 has been installed on three machines, now, and I've fully upgraded my PC since installing it on here. It was well worth the ~$150 I paid for it.


All that Win8 offers that anyone will notice is the stupid Metro UI (why does an OS need two UIs?)

Forward compatibility and testing before it becomes the new standard. It allows for Windows 8 (and subsequent builds) to be compatible, seamlessly, as you move from a static PC setting to a tablet-style setting. For instance, imagine a laptop PC where the CPU/HD/etc are in the "monitor" section, which is detachable from the keyboard/external drivers/power section. Make that upper section detachable, and you've got a laptop that is a high-end tablet, and you minimize weight be allowing yourself to disconnect the parts you don't need on the tablet, while retaining a full-size physical keyboard for when you want it. I imagine we'll see that tech in a year or two at most. Something like Windows 8 would allow you to automatically switch from the "standard" win 7-style GUI while docked, to the Metro UI when you disconnect the tablet. Without losing any kind of performance or data; the tablet is just as powerful as your PC because it IS your PC; you just dock it for external drive access and the physical keyboard and charging.

We've got plenty of gadgets that fit different niches. The next move is going to be single gadgets that cover multiple niches without any sacrifices. A dynamic GUI system is a big advantage, there.
 
2013-01-19 02:27:30 PM  

Thorak: madgonad:
No Windows upgrade has ever cost $200. OEM licenses for brand new computers barely cost over $100.

OEM licenses are only good for an initial install on one unit. If you upgrade your hardware, you can void the license, and render the OEM license null and void. There's ways around that, but they're not really legitimate, and most rely on Microsoft being cool about it.

Meanwhile, my full copy of Win 7 has been installed on three machines, now, and I've fully upgraded my PC since installing it on here. It was well worth the ~$150 I paid for it.


All that Win8 offers that anyone will notice is the stupid Metro UI (why does an OS need two UIs?)

Forward compatibility and testing before it becomes the new standard. It allows for Windows 8 (and subsequent builds) to be compatible, seamlessly, as you move from a static PC setting to a tablet-style setting. For instance, imagine a laptop PC where the CPU/HD/etc are in the "monitor" section, which is detachable from the keyboard/external drivers/power section. Make that upper section detachable, and you've got a laptop that is a high-end tablet, and you minimize weight be allowing yourself to disconnect the parts you don't need on the tablet, while retaining a full-size physical keyboard for when you want it. I imagine we'll see that tech in a year or two at most. Something like Windows 8 would allow you to automatically switch from the "standard" win 7-style GUI while docked, to the Metro UI when you disconnect the tablet. Without losing any kind of performance or data; the tablet is just as powerful as your PC because it IS your PC; you just dock it for external drive access and the physical keyboard and charging.

We've got plenty of gadgets that fit different niches. The next move is going to be single gadgets that cover multiple niches without any sacrifices. A dynamic GUI system is a big advantage, there.


You do realize they won't go with switching the UIs depending on whether a keyboard is or isn't attached? They'll force Metro on their next OS without the option of going to the desktop without a third party application. Just like they eliminated the Classic Start Menu in 7. The way to get the Classic Start Menu in 7 was a third party application.
 
2013-01-19 02:32:12 PM  
styckx
For gaming.. *I* haven't had a problem but know a lot of developers are currently on a "we don't support Windows 8 kick".. So there is that chance you may need support for a game and not get it because you dared used a new OS.

Heh. The Vista Effect: where you pay $200 to be treated like a Linux user.
 
2013-01-19 02:52:43 PM  

kiteless: This was a short time promotion from the beginning. Lifehacker FAIL.


Yep, and they did the exact same thing when Windows 7 came out.
 
2013-01-19 03:02:57 PM  

Relatively Obscure: The computer currently being shipped to me shipped with Windows 7, so I doubt I'll be upgrading anytime soon.  That said, I haven't seen anything to make me really hate Windows 8 except that the tiles screen or start screen or whatever always looks kind of ugly in their commercials.


I bought a laptop with Windows 8 and after trying it for a couple of weeks, I decided it sucked big donkey weeners. I returned it and bought another new one with Windows 7. So far so good!

If I were you, I'd determine if the up?grade is reversible before doing so.
 
2013-01-19 03:06:32 PM  
I just ordered a new computer at work. They are shipping with Windows 7 home/office. Since I need Windows 7 Pro I was looking at the upgrades. All the Windows 7 flavors had 5 star ratings. All the Windows 8 flavors had 2 star ratings. I think Microsoft is going to be taken to the woodshed and beaten on Windows 8.
 
2013-01-19 03:07:15 PM  

Jimmysolson: Relatively Obscure: The computer currently being shipped to me shipped with Windows 7, so I doubt I'll be upgrading anytime soon.  That said, I haven't seen anything to make me really hate Windows 8 except that the tiles screen or start screen or whatever always looks kind of ugly in their commercials.

I bought a laptop with Windows 8 and after trying it for a couple of weeks, I decided it sucked big donkey weeners. I returned it and bought another new one with Windows 7. So far so good!

If I were you, I'd determine if the up?grade is reversible before doing so.


Er, like I said, I doubt I'll be upgrading.  I doubt I'd have worried if I had to go with Windows 8, but I didn't and there's no really compelling reason to switch right now.
 
2013-01-19 03:23:41 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Jimmysolson: Relatively Obscure: The computer currently being shipped to me shipped with Windows 7, so I doubt I'll be upgrading anytime soon.  That said, I haven't seen anything to make me really hate Windows 8 except that the tiles screen or start screen or whatever always looks kind of ugly in their commercials.

I bought a laptop with Windows 8 and after trying it for a couple of weeks, I decided it sucked big donkey weeners. I returned it and bought another new one with Windows 7. So far so good!

If I were you, I'd determine if the up?grade is reversible before doing so.

Er, like I said, I doubt I'll be upgrading.  I doubt I'd have worried if I had to go with Windows 8, but I didn't and there's no really compelling reason to switch right now.


Sometimes me words don't come out right in response to what I read.
If at some point down the road you decide to up?grade to 8, unlike myself, you should try it before you buy it.
I like using the Firefox web browser and it would not work right for me with Windows 8.
 
2013-01-19 03:25:21 PM  

bhcompy: madgonad: . Slap a modern GPU into an old Core2 and you can still play every game except Crysis at top settings @1080p.

1080p is a meh computer resolution, just fyi


I thought most gamers were still using 1080p monitors because the higher resolution 2560 x 1440 monitors are typically high end IPS and are optimized for content creation creation and color accuracy, so they tend to be expensive and have much slower response times than TN panels, which makes them less optimal for gaming.
 
2013-01-19 03:30:04 PM  

47 is the new 42: Thorak: madgonad:
No Windows upgrade has ever cost $200. OEM licenses for brand new computers barely cost over $100.

OEM licenses are only good for an initial install on one unit. If you upgrade your hardware, you can void the license, and render the OEM license null and void. There's ways around that, but they're not really legitimate, and most rely on Microsoft being cool about it.

Meanwhile, my full copy of Win 7 has been installed on three machines, now, and I've fully upgraded my PC since installing it on here. It was well worth the ~$150 I paid for it.


All that Win8 offers that anyone will notice is the stupid Metro UI (why does an OS need two UIs?)

Forward compatibility and testing before it becomes the new standard. It allows for Windows 8 (and subsequent builds) to be compatible, seamlessly, as you move from a static PC setting to a tablet-style setting. For instance, imagine a laptop PC where the CPU/HD/etc are in the "monitor" section, which is detachable from the keyboard/external drivers/power section. Make that upper section detachable, and you've got a laptop that is a high-end tablet, and you minimize weight be allowing yourself to disconnect the parts you don't need on the tablet, while retaining a full-size physical keyboard for when you want it. I imagine we'll see that tech in a year or two at most. Something like Windows 8 would allow you to automatically switch from the "standard" win 7-style GUI while docked, to the Metro UI when you disconnect the tablet. Without losing any kind of performance or data; the tablet is just as powerful as your PC because it IS your PC; you just dock it for external drive access and the physical keyboard and charging.

We've got plenty of gadgets that fit different niches. The next move is going to be single gadgets that cover multiple niches without any sacrifices. A dynamic GUI system is a big advantage, there.

You do realize they won't go with switching the UIs depending on whether a keyboard is or isn't attached? They'll force Metro on their next OS without the option of going to the desktop without a third party application. Just like they eliminated the Classic Start Menu in 7. The way to get the Classic Start Menu in 7 was a third party application.


I don't see how they could do that without CIOs at major companies declaring a fatwa against Ballmer.
 
2013-01-19 03:33:06 PM  

styckx: alwaysjaded: styckx:
For one.. I always pirated Windows. Until Windows 8 I have never owned a legit copy except if I bought a laptop and it came with it.. So for $40 it was low enough to finally go legit on the desktop for once. $200 would still enough to make me pirate it again though..  No OS with a 5 year shelf life and license for 1 PC is worth $200 to upgrade.. That's insanity.
.


So the price just went from $40 to free. Maybe it will increase market share that way.
 
2013-01-19 03:59:32 PM  

MindStalker: styckx: alwaysjaded: styckx:
For one.. I always pirated Windows. Until Windows 8 I have never owned a legit copy except if I bought a laptop and it came with it.. So for $40 it was low enough to finally go legit on the desktop for once. $200 would still enough to make me pirate it again though..  No OS with a 5 year shelf life and license for 1 PC is worth $200 to upgrade.. That's insanity.
.

So the price just went from $40 to free. Maybe it will increase market share that way.


Bill Gates said the exact thing many moons ago..
 
2013-01-19 04:01:00 PM  

El Freak: kiteless: This was a short time promotion from the beginning. Lifehacker FAIL.

Yep, and they did the exact same thing when Windows 7 came out.


Of course 7 was an OS people actually wanted.
 
2013-01-19 04:17:21 PM  

Jimmysolson: Sometimes me words don't come out right in response to what I read.
If at some point down the road you decide to up?grade to 8, unlike myself, you should try it before you buy it.


Ah, understood.  Thanks.
 
2013-01-19 04:18:12 PM  
And everyone will be waiting for Win 9: The Return of the Start Menu!
 
2013-01-19 04:23:32 PM  
Win8 is OK once you figure out the Metro interface. Read the manual first or you'll go nuts.
 
2013-01-19 04:32:27 PM  
Raise the price on something naecoont wants. Brilliant plan, that.
 
2013-01-19 04:53:41 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I picked it up for $14.99 using some site somebody posted on reddit. Other than the new start page, it's not that different from Windows 7.


Vista, 7 and 8 are all the same basic build.
 
2013-01-19 05:13:58 PM  
My last laptop cost $350. They want $200 just for an OS? An OS *upgrade*?
 
2013-01-19 05:21:14 PM  
I got the upgrade from Vista for £25. There are some annoyances (clumsy way to go to standby mode for example), but Metro's easy to avoid, and File History is nice. The main advantage is that it seems much faster and more responsive - not sure how it compares to 7, but there was no reasonably priced upgrade to 7 available so it was a moot point. On the whole, pretty good, and I certainly don't want to go back.

$200 though? You're having a laugh.
 
2013-01-19 05:26:45 PM  
I just got a free copy of 8, and I'm enjoying it. But then again I'm not a self righteous asshole looking for things to complain about on the internet.
 
2013-01-19 05:30:31 PM  
I usually upgrade twice a year. First in April then October. All for Free.
 
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