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2013-01-19 01:34:17 PM
Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!
 
2013-01-19 01:59:03 PM

xanadian: Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!


Well, that depends. Was it one of those artificially low speed limits placed in the middle of a higher speed road in order to induce tickets? Or is it really a high-risk area that needs a 25 mph speed limit?
 
2013-01-19 02:03:05 PM
Hey mods, you missed the "Cop story trifecta"....

I would ask to see the speed study that set the limit. If that many people are going over, it probably needs to be reevaluated.

We have many areas that are long stretches along famers fields and are marked 25. Just plain stupid.
 
GBB
2013-01-19 02:03:16 PM

machoprogrammer: xanadian: Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

Well, that depends. Was it one of those artificially low speed limits placed in the middle of a higher speed road in order to induce tickets? Or is it really a high-risk area that needs a 25 mph speed limit?


Residential mailboxes that abut the roadway? 25 is still enough to kill a pedestrian.
 
2013-01-19 02:03:41 PM
A friend of mine, who became a cop in the mid 70's, his first day of patrolling alone, he wrote 56 citations.
 
2013-01-19 02:03:50 PM

machoprogrammer: xanadian: Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

Well, that depends. Was it one of those artificially low speed limits placed in the middle of a higher speed road in order to induce tickets? Or is it really a high-risk area that needs a 25 mph speed limit?


FTFA:
Even though the speed limit is 25, people cruise down the extra-wide road


This makes me suspect the former.
 
2013-01-19 02:04:36 PM
Residential areas and school zones are good places to do exactly the limit.
 
2013-01-19 02:07:43 PM

GBB:

Residential mailboxes that abut the roadway? 25 is still enough to kill a pedestrian.


So you believe that any road with a residential mailbox on it should have a maximum 25 mph speed limit? Why not just have all vehicles governed to where they cannot exceed 25mph? After all, it's for the children.
 
2013-01-19 02:08:40 PM
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Not Impressed.
 
2013-01-19 02:09:19 PM

GBB: Residential mailboxes that abut the roadway? 25 is still enough to kill a pedestrian.


I highway I drive quite often has a 55 mph speed limit and has mailboxes on it. They are about 3 miles apart from each other, but they are still residential mailboxes
 
2013-01-19 02:11:51 PM

skwerl: So you believe that any road with a residential mailbox on it should have a maximum 25 mph speed limit? Why not just have all vehicles governed to where they cannot exceed 25mph? After all, it's for the children.


/obvious troll is obvious.
 
2013-01-19 02:12:34 PM
To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

That's highly relevant to this story. Last time I was in Vegas I could barely drive through all the snow.
 
2013-01-19 02:13:39 PM

Forced Perspective: That's highly relevant to this story. Last time I was in Vegas I could barely drive through all the snow.


now that was some funny shiat right there.
 
2013-01-19 02:13:54 PM

studebaker hoch: Residential areas and school zones are good places to do exactly the limit.


Vermont is a great example where this applies..  Many tourists, out of staters will be on a 50mph Vermont road that for a mile or maybe two goes down to 25-30 mph because it goes through a small town. Most dummies and out of state tourists blast through at 40 mph thinking "It's just some dumb small town in the sticks of Vermont no one will notice"..  Cops in those small towns usually have a zero tolerance policy for blasting through.
 
2013-01-19 02:14:10 PM
Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.
 
2013-01-19 02:19:27 PM
If they were being honest. He would be a revenue officer rather than called a police officer.
 
2013-01-19 02:20:44 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.


This!

The only time I've gotten a speeding ticket is when I deserved one.
 
2013-01-19 02:21:13 PM

Forced Perspective: To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

That's highly relevant to this story. Last time I was in Vegas I could barely drive through all the snow.


Last time you were in Vegas, did you happen to look at where Carson City is on the map?

/Nevada is not just Las Vegas
//Carson City DOES get craptons of actual snow in the winter
 
2013-01-19 02:22:18 PM
DNRTFA but....

"How to write 1,000 words..."

Now you're trying to tell me today's 'News Journalists' can type an article with more than two hundred words? I don't believe it.
 
2013-01-19 02:23:19 PM

Oliver Twisted: machoprogrammer: xanadian: Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

Well, that depends. Was it one of those artificially low speed limits placed in the middle of a higher speed road in order to induce tickets? Or is it really a high-risk area that needs a 25 mph speed limit?

FTFA:
Even though the speed limit is 25, people cruise down the extra-wide road

This makes me suspect the former.


Looking at it on Google Maps, it seems like a fairly tight residential street. People SHOULD be going a block north to Fairview if they want to go between 395 and the 580 freeway. Colorado is 3 lanes with parking alongside and houses right on the road, while Fairview is five lanes with no street parking and no houses. Sure, the driving lanes are fairly wide... but you're dodging people getting into their cars. Most of the houses look to have less than a car-length between the their walls and the road. I'd guess people are using it as a shortcut between Lincoln Hey and the Carson City Fwy.
 
2013-01-19 02:25:49 PM
Hwy, not "Hey". Damn autocorrect.
 
pla
2013-01-19 02:25:58 PM
Bit'O'Gristle : You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.

And you chose to work as the agent of a government that sets speed limits artificially low specifically for revenue generation purposes. Exactly how much respect do you think people will really give you?

That said, of course you don't give Officer Dickwad attitude. You smile the nicest smile you can bear to show him, and say please and thank you and make your apology sound sincere. And when you get the chance on rare occasion, you spit in his coffee.

/ Yep, it counts as assault. Don't get caught, kids.
 
2013-01-19 02:33:19 PM

Leishu: Forced Perspective: To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

That's highly relevant to this story. Last time I was in Vegas I could barely drive through all the snow.

Last time you were in Vegas, did you happen to look at where Carson City is on the map?

/Nevada is not just Las Vegas
//Carson City DOES get craptons of actual snow in the winter


"Snow" is a euphemism for "cocaine." Full story at 11.
 
2013-01-19 02:33:25 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.


So basically regardless of how many laws we're actually breaking you decide whether I get to feed my kids (or atleast the difference between under a hundred an a couple hundred dollars) based on your perception of my 'attitude'. Hmm, why can't I be a non violent resentful farker like you? That's some nanny state shiat if I've ever heard some.
 
2013-01-19 02:33:44 PM

otalicus: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.

This!

The only time I've gotten a speeding ticket is when I deserved one.


define "deserved".

I've never once got a speeding ticket I deserved, because every time I was driving in a situation I felt warranted by road conditions and traffic. The cop disagreed with me. Who was right? *ME*, because I'm the one actually driving in the conditions, the one whose life is actually on the line from them and who has to constantly evaluate my surroundings from that perspective. Yes, I acknowledge that most people on the road are not paying attention and driving faster than they can handle. I'm not one of them.

/trained to drive by a demolition derby driver.
//put 20k+ miles on my car every year for the past 19 years. Mostly city driving.
///Never gotten in an accident while speeding.
////Have avoided quite a few accidents by speeding.
 
2013-01-19 02:34:25 PM

"Dodds came to his beat because residents had complained to the Carson City Board of Supervisors about speeders on Edmonds Drive. The board wanted the sheriff to do something about it. The sheriff and Sloan vowed to make something happen, Sloan said."


Why would anyone have a problem with this? On my street there is a stop sign no one stops at, and the drivers really don't care about pedestrian safety or right of way. One day I think I'll start going to all the town meetings to petition for one officer to park his butt on my street just to write tickets. I really am amazed how bad the drivers are in my area.

 
2013-01-19 02:35:58 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.


I agree with most of that. Is what I don't agree with is officers hanging out looking for traffic infractions. Like people California stopping through a 4 way stop. Or taking advantage of confusing or inadequate signage. It's not about $afety, it's about revenue.

I would also like to point out that every cop I have ever known has been especially intolerant of things like late fees, parking tickets, restrictive return policies and other people doing their jobs when it is inconvenient for the officer.
 
2013-01-19 02:36:52 PM
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But it also comes down to the smile.

"They smile, I smile, it relaxes the situation," he said.
 
2013-01-19 03:02:02 PM
I guess "Pigs are nothing but earners for the state" doesn't meet the 1.00 word quota.
 
2013-01-19 03:09:41 PM
Now I know where not to drive around here.

/This street is a mile from my office
 
2013-01-19 03:18:03 PM
There's no reason to have driveway after driveway, egress after egress on any high density road, but you know.. freedom.
 
2013-01-19 03:22:43 PM
I never understood the whole "Cops are heroes!" thing, either. The majority of their time is spent giving out tickets for minute traffic violations, very rarely do they actually capture a bad guy. And if they do, it is almost always after the crime is done so they didn't prevent anything.
 
2013-01-19 03:26:51 PM

computerguyUT: Hey mods, you missed the "Cop story trifecta"....



They're probably busy looking for gun threads to troll the forums with...
 
2013-01-19 03:30:15 PM
NIEDERMEYER!!!
 
2013-01-19 03:32:36 PM
So in essence he's a scumbag who enjoys passing out tickets for artificially low rated roads. Interesting - but his job is going to go away soon enough with autonomous vehicles. They don't speed.
 
2013-01-19 03:34:21 PM
FTFA - While Rick Dodds Dick Rodds patrols in his marked police car, his eyes are on the road and on other drivers. His hand is on a remote that controls the radar unit on the top of his dash.
/ftfy
 
2013-01-19 03:39:49 PM

kd1s: So in essence he's a scumbag who enjoys passing out tickets for artificially low rated roads. Interesting - but his job is going to go away soon enough with autonomous vehicles. They don't speed.


He'll be collecting his fat pension then, telling tall stories of his heroism.
 
2013-01-19 04:10:55 PM

machoprogrammer: xanadian: Eh. If it were some overzealous cop giving tickets for going 27 in a 25, that'd be one thing. But if the locals are really having that kind of problem (39 in a 25, from one example), then good on the guy, and I hope it keeps him coming.

To those who do 39 in a 25, especially down my street where the snowbanks are 5' high and I can barely see around them while trying to leave my driveway, SLOW THE fark DOWN, ASSHOLES!!!

Well, that depends. Was it one of those artificially low speed limits placed in the middle of a higher speed road in order to induce tickets? Or is it really a high-risk area that needs a 25 mph speed limit?


It doesn't matter. The speed limit is the speed limit. If the speed limit is wrong, the local gubmint needs to fix it. The cops should never be deciding when it's ok to enforce the law.
 
2013-01-19 04:35:29 PM

reillan: otalicus: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.

This!

The only time I've gotten a speeding ticket is when I deserved one.

define "deserved".

I've never once got a speeding ticket I deserved, because every time I was driving in a situation I felt warranted by road conditions and traffic. The cop disagreed with me. Who was right? *ME*, because I'm the one actually driving in the conditions, the one whose life is actually on the line from them and who has to constantly evaluate my surroundings from that perspective. Yes, I acknowledge that most people on the road are not paying attention and driving faster than they can handle. I'm not one of them.

/trained to drive by a demolition derby driver.
//put 20k+ miles on my car every year for the past 19 years. Mostly city driving.
///Never gotten in an accident while speeding.
////Have avoided quite a few accidents by speeding.


If you're driving substantially faster or slower than traffic around you, you are a hazard on the road and you deserved that ticket. I once got a ticket in Texas for driving too slow. I was doing 65 in a 55. 65 was all the moving van I was driving would do. But everyone around me was going 75 or better.

Oh and here in Oklahoma, ticket quotas are illegal. If you accuse my cop brother of trying to fill a quota, he'll tell you that they don't have a quota and that he is allowed to write as many citations as he wants.

 
2013-01-19 05:14:59 PM

kd1s: So in essence he's a scumbag who enjoys passing out tickets for artificially low rated roads. Interesting - but his job is going to go away soon enough with autonomous vehicles. They don't speed.


They'll still be pulling you over for some reason. Maybe to check that your autonomous vehicle has been upgraded to the latest software. Revenue streams must be kept flowing.
 
2013-01-19 05:20:43 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.


Damn, why could I never get pulled over by someone like you. It seems 90% of cops are dicks before the driver gets a word in edge wise. For instance:

I'm 18, get back to my work after a dinner with co-workers and my boss. It's dark, it's late (about 9 or 10 pm). I'm the last one to leave and instantly after getting out of the parking lot I have a cop on me. I notice this and make sure I don't do a damn thing to get him to pull me over. Full stop at stop signs, signaling, checking my blind spots, the works. Low and behold they pull me over anyway. Give me the normal "license and registration" speech, asking if I have anything in my car. Also asking why was leaving that parking lot, I tell them why and even show them my business card. All the while I'm 100% calm and polite, no talking back, no smart mouthing, nothing. They notice I have hand-rolled cigars in my glovebox (given to me by my mothers boyfriend at the time). Ofcoarse they're suspicious, and they ask, I explain to them they're just cigars from my mothers boyfriend.

They go back to their car for a few minutes, running my license and reg. Come back and ask if they can search my car. Me, being the dumbass kid who didn't want to cause any trouble, quickly said they could.

Fast forward a minute or two, while I'm standing outside my car waiting for the cops to start search it, and I ask "May I ask why you pulled me over?", I instantly get a response of "Don't be a smart ass." (To be fair, I did have my arms crossed and a inquisitive look which they may have taken as somewhat smart-assish? Still completely uncalled for). I tell them I'm not trying to be a smart ass when they get a call on their radio. A liquor store had just been robbed just a few blocks from my work. They tell me "You're lucky we have to go", and get back into their car and drive off. Since I never got an answer to my question, I've assumed to this day it was because "reports of suspicious activity in area", "young person", "leaving the back parking lot of an electronics store hours after it had closed."


TLDR:
Cops pull me over, I ask for reason they think I'm trying to be a smart ass. While they're harrassing me, the person they were looking for (I assume) robs a liquor store nearby. Karma.


Yah, CSB, I know. But I think these are the types of cops that give you guys a bad name and instantly make people go into hostile mode before you even open your mouth. I also think these types of cops make up probably 75-90% of the forces out there, for whatever reason.
 
2013-01-19 05:36:20 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP.". .


Sure, like parking officers right?

I doubt there's a set figure in most cases, but when everyone else is writing 50 tickets a day, and you're writing 25.....
 
2013-01-19 05:49:45 PM

zippolight2002: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.

Damn, why could I never get pulled over by someone like you. It seems 90% of cops are dicks before the driver gets a word in edge wise. For instance:

I'm 18, get back to my work after a dinner with co-workers and my boss. It's dark, it's late (about 9 or 10 pm). I'm the last one to leave and instantly after getting out of the parking lot I have a cop on me. I notice this and make sure I don't do a damn thing to get him to pull me over. Full stop at stop signs, signaling, checking my blind spots, the works. Low and behold they pull me over anyway. Give me the normal "license and registration" speech, asking if I have anything in my car. Also asking why was leaving that parking lot, I tell them why and even show them my business card. All the while I'm 100% calm and polite, no talking back, no smart mouthing, nothing. They notice I have hand-rolled cigars in my glovebox (given to me by my ...


If a cop is questioning you he already thinks you're guilty and is just trying to prove it.
 
2013-01-19 06:09:12 PM

3rdtimearound: [www.nevadaappeal.com image 300x211]

But it also comes down to the smile.

"They smile, I smile, it relaxes the situation," he said.



"It would be a swell world if everyone was as nice as the guy who's trying to skin you." -- author unknown

If you are unfortunate and get a ticket, fight it. You might get off (usually, if it comes to a court trial and the cop doesn't show up, it's a dismissal.) In most cases, you get a chance to argue your case without even having to go to court! Just send in your fine money with a written "Not Guilty" plea. The court will then send you a form to submit your side of the story on. The cop has to submit his case as well, and a judge makes a decision. If they find you guilty at that point, you still have an ace in the hole, if you wish to use it -- your day in court, facing the shill who wrote the ticket in front of a judge! I went to court for my last one and got off (cop was sick.) However, even in the case of people who sat across from their accusers and were found guilty, the judge extended them reduced fines and/or traffic school for offenses that were normally too "serious" to allow for it (e.g. speeding over 90 on the I-5 Grapevine). So, taking some time off for court can save you big bucks when you factor in insurance hikes and other costs beyond just the amount of the fine.

Even if the citation is upheld, you've caused the officer to do a few hours of desk work that he wouldn't have to do if you just plead guilty and pay the fine. Make the bastards work for your hard earned cash!! I'll bet that, if every ticket was fought and that joker faced 1,400 court trials (or even 1,400 responses to written declarations) he wouldn't be so eager to cite!
 
2013-01-19 06:09:24 PM

lewismarktwo: zippolight2002: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs,,the old "quota" thing again? Really? This is a speeders keyword for blaming the officer for catching him. ZOMG...YOURE JUST MAKING YOUR QUOTA...DERRRP." Sorry folks, but the departments I worked for never told me to get x amount of tickets per shift, nor have any of the other officers I have ever spoken to. The golden rule i usually used was...10 over the limit, and you're getting pulled over. If you are getting a ticket, well, that depends on 1. your attitude, and 2. your driving history. If you have 3 speeding tickets already, ya, you're getting another. Or if i walk up and you spew stupid "dough nut munching, quota meeting derp on my uniform, ya, you're getting one. 3. Or if you are just an asshole right off the bat when I'm being polite and respectful. If i walk up and you stick your ass in my face, ya, you're getting as many as i can write, including bullshiat equipment violations. No reason to be nasty, esp when the officer is being polite and just doing his / her job. You are the one breaking the law. Don't take it out on the officer.

Damn, why could I never get pulled over by someone like you. It seems 90% of cops are dicks before the driver gets a word in edge wise. For instance:

I'm 18, get back to my work after a dinner with co-workers and my boss. It's dark, it's late (about 9 or 10 pm). I'm the last one to leave and instantly after getting out of the parking lot I have a cop on me. I notice this and make sure I don't do a damn thing to get him to pull me over. Full stop at stop signs, signaling, checking my blind spots, the works. Low and behold they pull me over anyway. Give me the normal "license and registration" speech, asking if I have anything in my car. Also asking why was leaving that parking lot, I tell them why and even show them my business card. All the while I'm 100% calm and polite, no talking back, no smart mouthing, nothing. They notice I have hand-rolled cigars in my glovebox (gi ...


/My best advise? Don't speed, i don't care if you don't "like" the speed limit or agree with it. You got a beef with the posted limit? Take it up with the mayor or state officials, the police have 0 to do with posted limits. Those are imposed by the state and city, and the engineers who look at the road. It's the posted limit. I as an officer don't have any say at all about them. i give you 10 miles over the limit, even in a residential area, and then you're getting pulled over. I'll be nice, and polite, and respectful, but if you start ranting and giving me a hard time for something YOU did, you can't expect me to walk back to my car with my tail between my legs just because YOU'RE upset that you got caught breaking the law. Just because you don't agree with it, that has nothing to do with me doing my job, part of which is enforcing the speed limits for public safety. You want the law changed? Fine, talk to the DMV or your alderman. Giving the officer a bunch of shiat because you can't follow the rules is bullshiat. If you can't stay within 10 miles an hour of the speed limit, you have no business driving. Esp in a residential area. Quit being a dick, slow down, but if you do get busted, just take your ticket or fight it in court. That is your right. But don't hate on the officer because he caught you.
 
2013-01-19 06:14:22 PM

acad1228: If you're driving substantially faster or slower than traffic around you, you are a hazard on the road and you deserved that ticket


Both times I've gotten tickets were in clear dry conditions with no cars within 50 yards of me (except the cop in his hiding place). I was traveling at a safe speed for the road and the conditions... unfortunately the posted speed is about 30 mph less than the max safe speed (I was only going 15 over).
 
2013-01-19 06:18:26 PM

destrip: I'll bet that, if every ticket was fought and that joker faced 1,400 court trials (or even 1,400 responses to written declarations) he wouldn't be so eager to cite!


He gets paid overtime.

And if everyone started doing it, they'd increase court costs and fines to compensate.

If it wasn't about the revenue, they'd just give points, not fines. Too many points, you lose some driving rights (just like a DUI). If you keep accumulating points, you lose your license entirely.
 
2013-01-19 06:18:48 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: lewismarktwo: zippolight2002: Bit'O'Gristle: ...


Did you quote who you meant to quote? No one was talking about speed limits.
 
2013-01-19 06:45:08 PM

It's Me Bender: I was traveling at a safe speed for the road and the conditions..


Determined by who, you?

/most complaining about speed limits is done by people with lots of tickets
//gee wonder why that is?
 
2013-01-19 07:26:09 PM

machoprogrammer: I never understood the whole "Cops are heroes!" thing, either. The majority of their time is spent giving out tickets for minute traffic violations, very rarely do they actually capture a bad guy. And if they do, it is almost always after the crime is done so they didn't prevent anything.


Hold on a second... how is a police officer supposed to arrest someone if no crime occurred? How do you propose they "catch bad guys" when no law has been broken at that time?

That's like the fire department coming over and chopping holes in your roof, walls, and floors then spraying down your house when it isn't on fire.
 
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