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(The New York Times)   Want to become an ambassador to a country of your choosing? It's rather easy, just raise more in political donations than the donor next to you   (nytimes.com) divider line 74
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2013-01-19 08:15:24 AM
I want to be ambassador to Tahiti. How much does that cost?
 
2013-01-19 09:07:37 AM

flucto: I want to be ambassador to Tahiti. How much does that cost?


Sadly we don't have an ambassdor to Tahiti, since it is part of French Polynesia. The closest you could get is Fiji, but those ambassadorships seam to go to career FSOs.
 
2013-01-19 09:16:11 AM

Dinki: Sadly we don't have an ambassdor to Tahiti


So the position is "open." Good news.
 
2013-01-19 09:56:42 AM
How much is Libya?
 
2013-01-19 09:57:27 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: How much is Libya?


Hal a pack of Camels.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:25 PM
This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.
 
2013-01-19 01:06:26 PM

flucto: Eddie Adams from Torrance: How much is Libya?

Hal a pack of Camels.


Ok, that's funny. Very very wrong and very very funny.

Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.


hope and change. I guess that could mean that we are allowed to hope for change, we aint gonna get it but at least now we can hope for it.

Oh wait we don't get that now, we just get forward. Which I guess means that we are not allowed to remember past statements?
 
2013-01-19 02:31:22 PM
I want to be posted aboard a consular ship.
 
2013-01-19 02:51:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: flucto: Eddie Adams from Torrance: How much is Libya?

Hal a pack of Camels.

Ok, that's funny. Very very wrong and very very funny.

Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.

hope and change. I guess that could mean that we are allowed to hope for change, we aint gonna get it but at least now we can hope for it.

Oh wait we don't get that now, we just get forward. Which I guess means that we are not allowed to remember past statements?


www.manorhg.com
 
2013-01-19 02:58:43 PM

Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.


I can't read TFA. I agree though, I'm so Jaded, I need a drink.
 
2013-01-19 03:00:12 PM
I'd love to be ambassador to Turkmenistan. The place fascinates me. Oh well, maybe someday.
 
2013-01-19 03:03:32 PM
Yeah, this tends to happen for the countries that can't possibly be screwed up. Your San Marinos, your Australias, etc. The places where even if you're a terrible diplomat who doesn't know what you're doing, won't cause any actual damage.

Thankfully, these guys tend not to want posts that require actual work.
 
2013-01-19 03:04:41 PM
I've got dibs on Iceland. Suck it, haters.
 
2013-01-19 03:06:23 PM

BMulligan: I've got dibs on Iceland. Suck it, haters.


Dude, that's cold.
 
2013-01-19 03:06:56 PM

BMulligan: I've got dibs on Iceland. Suck it, haters.


I believe I'll be needing a bribe for you to get that post.
 
2013-01-19 03:08:53 PM
Since every last thing has not changed...that means the Obama presidency is a failure
 
2013-01-19 03:14:12 PM

Halli: BMulligan: I've got dibs on Iceland. Suck it, haters.

I believe I'll be needing a bribe for you to get that post.


No problem. How about an old Sugarcubes refrigerator magnet?
 
2013-01-19 03:16:33 PM
This isn't exactly news. Important assignments where you actually need a diplomat is given to real diplomats; quit countries where the ambassador doesn't do anything and it's just run on auto pilot by the state department is given to flunkies.
 
2013-01-19 03:17:51 PM

BMulligan: Halli: BMulligan: I've got dibs on Iceland. Suck it, haters.

I believe I'll be needing a bribe for you to get that post.

No problem. How about an old Sugarcubes refrigerator magnet?


Not really a fan of Björk and her kid is the spawn of Satan.
 
2013-01-19 03:20:31 PM

Sybarite: I want to be posted aboard a consular ship.


The Empire frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2013-01-19 03:21:20 PM

bulldg4life: Since every last thing has not changed...that means the Obama presidency is a failure


That's right, HUSSEIN zer0bongo hasn't single-handedly put an end to the kind of political favoritism that has existed since before recorded history.

How's that "hopey-changey" stuff working out for ya libtardos?
 
2013-01-19 03:24:38 PM

Sybarite: I want to be posted aboard a consular ship.


"Hello, Captain? Yes, this is Sybarite. I'm afraid something's come up, and I won't make the mercy mission this time. Yeah, had a little bit too much to drink at the Senate party last night. No, listen, don't worry: if you run into any trouble, the Princess will be on board; I'm sure she can explain everything."
 
2013-01-19 03:25:23 PM

Zombie Butler: Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.

I can't read TFA. I agree though, I'm so Jaded, I need a drink.


Quick summary: "Mr. Obama has followed recent tradition in making appointments; like every president going back to Ronald Reagan, he has filled about 70 percent of the posts with career diplomats and 30 percent with political appointees, often but not always top donors."
 
2013-01-19 03:25:58 PM
Can I be the ambassador to New Freeland?

/get off my land
 
2013-01-19 03:41:33 PM
Can I be ambassador to the Federated States of Micronesia? I'm kinda tired of being on the FEC.
 
2013-01-19 03:43:24 PM
business attire in Bermuda. All business up top and a party down below. Atleast it looks like you are ambassadorial.

i.imgur.com

I know it tends to look like you lost your pants.  And going commando is discouraged.
 
2013-01-19 03:43:57 PM
I want to be the ambassador to the CITADEL.
www.iiicitadel.com
/idiots
 
2013-01-19 03:44:01 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.

hope and change. I guess that could mean that we are allowed to hope for change, we aint gonna get it but at least now we can hope for it.

Oh wait we don't get that now, we just get forward. Which I guess means that we are not allowed to remember past statements?


Holy shiat i hope you're at least entertaining yourself. The thought of a POTUS randomly changing this tradition, or spending even a moment thinking about changing it, is so stupid. You imbecile. Don't be an imbecile.
 
2013-01-19 03:44:48 PM
Is Hawaii available?
 
2013-01-19 03:48:36 PM

sheep snorter: business attire in Bermuda. All business up top and a party down below. Atleast it looks like you are ambassadorial.

[i.imgur.com image 520x342]

I know it tends to look like you lost your pants.  And going commando is discouraged.


That position is a Consul General. I've worked at that Consulate General.

I work for the State Department and am getting a kick out of these replies and whatnot.

/skill code 2880
 
2013-01-19 03:57:58 PM
I was outraged when Bush did this until I read that ambassadors are the representative of the head of state, not of the whole government or people. That's why you can send anyone you want, they represent you personally.
 
2013-01-19 04:02:41 PM
Wake me up when Obama does this for the Directors seat at FEMA.
 
2013-01-19 04:04:43 PM
this has never happened before in the history of any president ever.
 
2013-01-19 04:05:52 PM
HURR BOTH PARTIES ARE THE PROBLEM
RON PAUL
 
2013-01-19 04:07:20 PM

LiquidTester: I was outraged when Bush did this until I read that ambassadors are the representative of the head of state, not of the whole government or people. That's why you can send anyone you want, they represent you personally.


www.jookos.com
 
2013-01-19 04:09:27 PM

LiquidTester: I was outraged when Bush did this until I read that ambassadors are the representative of the head of state, not of the whole government or people. That's why you can send anyone you want, they represent you personally.


In fact, in places where the State Department does the foreign policy, it's actually a good idea to send big supporters. In places like that, an Ambassador's job is a) schmooze with the politcos of that country, b) put the president and his policies in the best possible light and c) maybe drum up some import/export business. Given the job requirements, a rich supporter, preferably with business experience and/or contacts, who has the social skills to bundle contributions is the perfect fit. As the kids like to say, I'm OK with this.
 
2013-01-19 04:10:05 PM

sheep snorter: i.imgur.com


Looks like someone's got a little Captain in 'im.
 
2013-01-19 04:10:45 PM

Gosling: Yeah, this tends to happen for the countries that can't possibly be screwed up. Your San Marinos, your Australias, etc. The places where even if you're a terrible diplomat who doesn't know what you're doing, won't cause any actual damage.

Thankfully, these guys tend not to want posts that require actual work.


If it's the UK or France, it doesn't really matter, but TFA mentions that there are people angling for the ambassadorships to China and India. Those are much more complex and delicate positions that should go to the career diplomats.
 
2013-01-19 04:12:03 PM

Gosling: Yeah, this tends to happen for the countries that can't possibly be screwed up. Your San Marinos, your Australias, etc. The places where even if you're a terrible diplomat who doesn't know what you're doing, won't cause any actual damage.

Thankfully, these guys tend not to want posts that require actual work.


I had the opportunity to go to the Embassy in Western Europe during the Bush Administration. We were visiting the Ambassador, a former boss of my father's many years ago. By all appearances the guy was doing a fine job, although I had to gag when he talked glowingly about Bush. This was probably 2007.

Any case, I had the realization, after talking to the tiny, funny-looking majordomo kind of guy who helped get us settled, that who the ambassador for some of these non-vital countries is, it hardly matters. The people who staff these embassies are the ones who handle everything, and they don't change much over the years. Sure, the head honcho needs to have social graces and golf with the potentate and go visit schools on the other side of the country, and you can't really outright buy those seats, but the job is basically relay anything your boss says, eat with the right fork, be someone people like, and leave the lifers to deal with the stranded travelers, etc.
 
2013-01-19 04:17:48 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: LiquidTester: I was outraged when Bush did this until I read that ambassadors are the representative of the head of state, not of the whole government or people. That's why you can send anyone you want, they represent you personally.

In fact, in places where the State Department does the foreign policy, it's actually a good idea to send big supporters. In places like that, an Ambassador's job is a) schmooze with the politcos of that country, b) put the president and his policies in the best possible light and c) maybe drum up some import/export business. Given the job requirements, a rich supporter, preferably with business experience and/or contacts, who has the social skills to bundle contributions is the perfect fit. As the kids like to say, I'm OK with this.


Plus it gets the people who gave you the most money the hell out of the country so they're not constantly pestering the White House staff to let them in for a few minutes just because they were in the neighborhood and have a few ideas they want to run past you.
 
2013-01-19 04:20:03 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.

hope and change.


I don't recall Obama ever saying this needed to be changed. Who cares who gets appointed to be ambassador to Britain, so long as it isn't Mitt Romney, who is the only person stupid enough to travel there and then belittle their preparations for the Olympic games?
 
2013-01-19 04:23:26 PM
This is an outrage... Or something...?
 
2013-01-19 04:24:02 PM

Granny_Panties: I want to be the ambassador to the CITADEL.


The Citadel is a great assignment until the Reapers attack.
 
2013-01-19 04:34:02 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com
Should be required reading
/lol reading....it's a movie!
 
2013-01-19 04:41:26 PM
How much to be in charge of FEMA? Is it one or two horses?
 
2013-01-19 04:50:22 PM
Meh.

Ambassadors have pretty much always been a booster for the United States who host parties and events at the embassy to help spread goodwill and American culture. It's not vital work, but it has a purpose.

Very rarely are they meeting with foreign government officials over substantive matters. That's what the State Department does.

Better to appoint donors to ambassadorships than committees on important boards like the NRLB or FCC.
 
2013-01-19 05:01:57 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: flucto: Eddie Adams from Torrance: How much is Libya?

Hal a pack of Camels.

Ok, that's funny. Very very wrong and very very funny.

Mentat: This is a new and wholly unprecedented phenomenon.

hope and change. I guess that could mean that we are allowed to hope for change, we aint gonna get it but at least now we can hope for it.

Oh wait we don't get that now, we just get forward. Which I guess means that we are not allowed to remember past statements?


Yes the nation elected Obama to end the horrific horrible horror of political appointments to diplomatic posts. Not oil wars. Not torture. Not unregulated corruption in the financial industry. Not abject surrender to billionaires.

You sound concerned.
 
2013-01-19 05:03:27 PM
Charlie Brown looks in his bag: "I got Iraq."
 
2013-01-19 05:21:49 PM

Satanic_Hamster: This isn't exactly news. Important assignments where you actually need a diplomat is given to real diplomats; quit countries where the ambassador doesn't do anything and it's just run on auto pilot by the state department is given to flunkies.


The other part of it is that modern technology has largely supplanted diplomats in a lot of places. We can send political flunkies to the Court of St James or to France because the White House tends to handle relations with those countries directly, rather than through the State Department. If the President wants something from the Prime Minister of the UK, he just calls him.

The other reason for sending rich donors to certain countries is that being an ambassador is often an expensive proposition. When Nixon appointed Walter Annanberg our ambassador to the UK, the first thing he did was to renovate the ambassador's residence in London from top to bottom, because it was literally falling apart. Annenberg paid for the renovations out of his own pocket as a gift to the American people.
 
2013-01-19 05:36:21 PM

Dinki: flucto: I want to be ambassador to Tahiti. How much does that cost?

Sadly we don't have an ambassdor to Tahiti, since it is part of French Polynesia. The closest you could get is Fiji, but those ambassadorships seam to go to career FSOs.


Flying spaghetti observers?
 
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