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2013-01-19 07:57:59 AM
Instead of whining about not having insurance, this guy took action himself. This is an easy and reliable way to get medical attention.
 
2013-01-19 08:14:37 AM
Crazy or not, this illustrates the beacon of hope known as American health care. Maybe this guy is a nutcase, but he's not alone. Plenty of rational people are driven to the the edge in attempts to receive even a modicum of care in this exceptional USA. You can rob a bank, be convicted, and still have better care than most working folks.
 
2013-01-19 08:26:48 AM
www.life360.com
 
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2013-01-19 12:08:29 PM

St_Francis_P: Instead of whining about not having insurance, this guy took action himself. This is an easy and reliable way to get medical attention.


Bootstraps!
 
2013-01-19 12:28:24 PM
Wow... That is the saddest farking thing I've read all week.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:33 PM
Surprisingly this is not uncommon. Do a GIS for man robs bank for one dollar and see what an epidemic this has become. It's really a shame people have to resort to this.
Link
 
2013-01-19 12:31:36 PM

dickfreckle: Crazy or not, this illustrates the beacon of hope known as American health care. Maybe this guy is a nutcase, but he's not alone. Plenty of rational people are driven to the the edge in attempts to receive even a modicum of care in this exceptional USA. You can rob a bank, be convicted, and still have better care than most working folks.


[I put on my robe and GOP shill hat]

And this just goes to prove that liberals are giving people more incentive to commit crimes and live out their days sucking that sweet gubmint teat. This is an obvious sign that we need to stop wasting our precious tax dollars on medical care for these thugs. The answer is right in front of us; no more healthcare in prisons. That'll give people more incentive to stay out of prisons, and encourage those on the inside to better themselves and make sure they never end up back in there. USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-01-19 12:32:48 PM
I feel dirty having typed that.
 
2013-01-19 12:33:20 PM
www.trbimg.com
Holy human Picasso, batman
 
2013-01-19 12:38:49 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: dickfreckle: Crazy or not, this illustrates the beacon of hope known as American health care. Maybe this guy is a nutcase, but he's not alone. Plenty of rational people are driven to the the edge in attempts to receive even a modicum of care in this exceptional USA. You can rob a bank, be convicted, and still have better care than most working folks.

[I put on my robe and GOP shill hat]

And this just goes to prove that liberals are giving people more incentive to commit crimes and live out their days sucking that sweet gubmint teat. This is an obvious sign that we need to stop wasting our precious tax dollars on medical care for these thugs. The answer is right in front of us; no more healthcare in prisons. That'll give people more incentive to stay out of prisons, and encourage those on the inside to better themselves and make sure they never end up back in there. USA! USA! USA!


But that's a lot of folks retirement plan. Commit a FEDERAL crime and get sent to a Federal Campus and you get a dorm room, three free meals a day, medical, dental, eyeglasses, heat in the winter and AC in the summer. All while attending classes. Federal white collar crime that is.
 
2013-01-19 12:38:59 PM
Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?
 
2013-01-19 12:40:27 PM

hbk72777: [www.trbimg.com image 399x533]
Holy human Picasso, batman


It's like they ordered him to face forward but one of the deputies off to his right had just brought in some pulled pork BBQ and his nose took off on its own following the scent of luxurious slow-cooked pig roast.

That or he pissed off a big guy with a mean right hook last time he was in.
 
2013-01-19 12:42:17 PM

cig-mkr: But that's a lot of folks retirement plan. Commit a FEDERAL crime and get sent to a Federal Campus and you get a dorm room, three free meals a day, medical, dental, eyeglasses, heat in the winter and AC in the summer. All while attending classes. Federal white collar crime that is.


Just be sure your white collar crime doesn't involving banking, insurance, or the stock market because then instead of going to Club Fed, you'll be given an apology and a bit larger annual bonus than usual.
 
2013-01-19 12:45:17 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I feel dirty having typed that.


Please stop giving Fox News their next talking points.
 
2013-01-19 12:45:56 PM

EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?


Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.
 
2013-01-19 12:49:08 PM

MmmmBacon: [www.life360.com image 580x849]


wat lingauj is dat
 
2013-01-19 12:51:11 PM
Man threatens President, gets free healthcare.

TeaBaggers biatch about his getting free healthcare, room and board, while they scream that their social security check is late and their medicare is the most wonderful thing in the great land of socialism.
While younger teabaggers scream about how you can go to a hospital and get free healthcare that is paid for by the government hospital, as the hospital can't refuse servicing you(until the government government subsidy runs out that is)
 
2013-01-19 12:52:07 PM

OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.


These are the talking points RWNJs parrot when they don't have the critical thinking skills necessary to form a coherent argument.. If I had a nickel for every time 'X must be an Obama voter' or 'liberals don't work and want free stuff' in comment sections, I'd be a... nickelaire.
 
2013-01-19 12:53:12 PM
recently sentenced on state charges for failing to register where he lived in Florida

Um, do they know what homeless means in Florida?
 
2013-01-19 12:53:51 PM

OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.


He was in a wheelchair and in need of chemotherapy... but yeah, McDonalds is always hiring
 
2013-01-19 12:54:25 PM
Well, yay for our system, he will get his quality medical care on our dime.

It's a really sad thing when going to prison is actually better than trying to survive as a "normal" person in America.
 
2013-01-19 12:55:16 PM

hbk72777: [www.trbimg.com image 399x533]
Holy human Picasso, batman


Looks like the loser in "Bum Fight 2"
 
2013-01-19 12:57:59 PM

computerguyUT: Well, yay for our system, he will get his quality medical care on our dime.

It's a really sad thing when going to prison is actually better than trying to survive as a "normal" person in America.


Where in the US can a homeless, convicted felon get a job that comes with health care? Seems like this guy made a logical choice. Welkome to Amerika!
 
2013-01-19 12:59:26 PM

computerguyUT: Well, yay for our system, he will get his quality medical care on our dime.

It's a really sad thing when going to prison is actually better than trying to survive as a "normal" person in America.


If only there was some way an industrialized nation could provide better healthcare for its citizens than employer-sponsored private insurance... hmmm... i wonder if there's literally any other, better option out there in the world. Well, i'm stumped, conservatives tell me our private healthcare system is the best in the world! I personally don't have insurance, but I'm told it's the best so it must be working out for me somehow
 
2013-01-19 01:05:18 PM
No no no, this is not what "Obamacare" means, homeless guy!
 
2013-01-19 01:06:51 PM
How else would this guy get to see a doctor? I don't blame him. I've got the flu and no hc coverage right now, so if my fever goes any higher it's good to know I've got options.
 
2013-01-19 01:08:09 PM

Plant Rights Activist: MmmmBacon: [www.life360.com image 580x849]

wat lingauj is dat


Swedish, according to google. It would have been pretty obvious if there had been some of those slashy o's.

/slashy Os
//the breakfast of farkers
 
2013-01-19 01:11:48 PM
SPOILER: He gets the medical care.
 
2013-01-19 01:11:51 PM
 
2013-01-19 01:13:04 PM

kapaso: How else would this guy get to see a doctor? I don't blame him. I've got the flu and no hc coverage right now, so if my fever goes any higher it's good to know I've got options.


Go to the ER, they have to treat you and not let you get sicker!

/This is what some conservatives actually believe... and do.
My guess is call ahead to a local clinic and explain the situation (about the fever.) Anyone got better ideas?
 
2013-01-19 01:17:34 PM

enochianwolf: computerguyUT: Well, yay for our system, he will get his quality medical care on our dime.

It's a really sad thing when going to prison is actually better than trying to survive as a "normal" person in America.

If only there was some way an industrialized nation could provide better healthcare for its citizens than employer-sponsored private insurance... hmmm... i wonder if there's literally any other, better option out there in the world. Well, i'm stumped, conservatives tell me our private healthcare system is the best in the world! I personally don't have insurance, but I'm told it's the best so it must be working out for me somehow


Wait a sec. Who was it that passed the current health care reform stating that it would help these poor people get care? Oh, yea, Democrats. Kindly go back to your cave. Neither side wants single payer because they're both bankrolled by interests that would suffer from it.
 
2013-01-19 01:19:49 PM

A. Snatchfold: OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.

These are the talking points RWNJs parrot when they don't have the critical thinking skills necessary to form a coherent argument.. If I had a nickel for every time 'X must be an Obama voter' or 'liberals don't work and want free stuff' in comment sections, I'd be a... nickelaire.



And if I had a nickel every time some LibbyDem Farker used the same old 'You don't think like I do, so you are a stupid poopy head' argument I would be GD farkin rich!
 
2013-01-19 01:20:44 PM
What I don't get is why the US doesn't just go all the way and completely adopt the Swiss health-care system.

Obamacare is 60% there, but as far as I can tell, the Swiss system is the only one EVERYBODY loves -- Private insurance companies thrive by selling luxury policies -- Universal standard coverage under one system

Yeah you get a national value-added tax that's inherently regressive, but it directly funds all the health expenses that we amplify by hiding them in mazes of paper shuffling -- everybody comes out ahead in the long term.
 
2013-01-19 01:21:13 PM
Good luck with that at St. E's
 
2013-01-19 01:22:25 PM

Polyhazard: Wow... That is the saddest farking thing I've read all week.


The upside is he'll get all the prostate exams he could wish for. Diffierent results, however.
 
2013-01-19 01:23:03 PM
So much for free speech
 
2013-01-19 01:25:09 PM

enochianwolf: OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.

He was in a wheelchair and in need of chemotherapy... but yeah, McDonalds is always hiring


God bless America!
 
2013-01-19 01:25:18 PM
Seems pretty simple to me, stop giving all but emergency medical care to individuals in prison.

At the same time everyone outside of prison should be on a single payer program once you are an adult, and you pay for your kids to be on the same program until they are adults.

I'd like to see a simplified tax code to pay for this, just throw the existing code all away and do:

All sources of income included, no deductions.
Make less than 1 dollar in earning, no tax.
Income tax collected federally, no state or city income taxes allowed.
Property tax collected at the state level, no federal property tax allowed.
Federal budget limited to 25% or less of the tax collected.
Funds distributed to states per legal citizen population.
All businesses must report worker salaries/wages/contractor fees, etc. - any money paid for work performed.

1 to 50K = 1.5% tax (average income and below)
51k to 150k = 3% tax (above average income to 3X average income)
151K to 500k = 6% tax (above 3x average income to 10x average income)
501K to 5M = 12% tax (above 3x average income to 100x average income)
5.1M and above = 24% tax (above 100x average income)

This tax and a flat rate payment per adult, by adult for kids for medical care in the single payer system.

Due to the simplification of the tax code, the IRS would become unnecessary. However, we should transform the IRS to become the Internal Waste and Fraud Investigation Service, its scopes set on all Federal Government programs, including the single payer medical program, social security, defense, etc., where the IWFIS people are paid minimum wage plus commission based on waste found.

As for the leaches in Medical Insurance, Tax Preparation, Tax Law, etc, they can go do something else.
 
2013-01-19 01:27:20 PM
Best part:

He previously served 18 months in federal prison for threatening to kill former President George W. Bush in 2001

Hilarious! After sitting there for a year and a half, thinking about why he was locked up, he gets out and does the same thing again? Well it was 11 years later, maybe that's long enough to revise one's memory.
 
2013-01-19 01:29:34 PM

8Fingers: A. Snatchfold: OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.

These are the talking points RWNJs parrot when they don't have the critical thinking skills necessary to form a coherent argument.. If I had a nickel for every time 'X must be an Obama voter' or 'liberals don't work and want free stuff' in comment sections, I'd be a... nickelaire.


And if I had a nickel every time some LibbyDem Farker used the same old 'You don't think like I do, so you are a stupid poopy head' argument I would be GD farkin rich!



You sure told me.
 
2013-01-19 01:35:23 PM

UsikFark: kapaso: How else would this guy get to see a doctor? I don't blame him. I've got the flu and no hc coverage right now, so if my fever goes any higher it's good to know I've got options.

Go to the ER, they have to treat you and not let you get sicker!

/This is what some conservatives actually believe... and do.
My guess is call ahead to a local clinic and explain the situation (about the fever.) Anyone got better ideas?


They do have treat you but they can also have a credit agency hound you for the rest of your life. Of course if your really broke that would hardly be an issue.
 
2013-01-19 01:36:36 PM

Stimpy's Lost Fart: Seems pretty simple to me, stop giving all but emergency medical care to individuals in prison.

At the same time everyone outside of prison should be on a single payer program once you are an adult, and you pay for your kids to be on the same program until they are adults.

I'd like to see a simplified tax code to pay for this, just throw the existing code all away and do:

All sources of income included, no deductions.
Make less than 1 dollar in earning, no tax.
Income tax collected federally, no state or city income taxes allowed.
Property tax collected at the state level, no federal property tax allowed.
Federal budget limited to 25% or less of the tax collected.
Funds distributed to states per legal citizen population.
All businesses must report worker salaries/wages/contractor fees, etc. - any money paid for work performed.

1 to 50K = 1.5% tax (average income and below)
51k to 150k = 3% tax (above average income to 3X average income)
151K to 500k = 6% tax (above 3x average income to 10x average income)
501K to 5M = 12% tax (above 3x average income to 100x average income)
5.1M and above = 24% tax (above 100x average income)

This tax and a flat rate payment per adult, by adult for kids for medical care in the single payer system.

Due to the simplification of the tax code, the IRS would become unnecessary. However, we should transform the IRS to become the Internal Waste and Fraud Investigation Service, its scopes set on all Federal Government programs, including the single payer medical program, social security, defense, etc., where the IWFIS people are paid minimum wage plus commission based on waste found.

As for the leaches in Medical Insurance, Tax Preparation, Tax Law, etc, they can go do something else.


Infringe on powers of the state much?
 
2013-01-19 01:39:35 PM

Stimpy's Lost Fart: Seems pretty simple to me


Yep. I suspect lots of things seem pretty simple to you.

images.wikia.com/potato
 
2013-01-19 01:41:25 PM

enochianwolf: computerguyUT: Well, yay for our system, he will get his quality medical care on our dime.

It's a really sad thing when going to prison is actually better than trying to survive as a "normal" person in America.

If only there was some way an industrialized nation could provide better healthcare for its citizens than employer-sponsored private insurance... hmmm... i wonder if there's literally any other, better option out there in the world. Well, i'm stumped, conservatives tell me our private healthcare system is the best in the world! I personally don't have insurance, but I'm told it's the best so it must be working out for me somehow


Well, rest easy, Obamacare is going to force the 30% of the US that's actually working to pay for super duper quality medical care for the rest that arent, so it's all good.

The beauty of socialism is that everyone gets to enjoy the same poor quality of life. Except rich people of course.
 
2013-01-19 01:44:13 PM

A. Snatchfold: 8Fingers: A. Snatchfold: OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.

These are the talking points RWNJs parrot when they don't have the critical thinking skills necessary to form a coherent argument.. If I had a nickel for every time 'X must be an Obama voter' or 'liberals don't work and want free stuff' in comment sections, I'd be a... nickelaire.


And if I had a nickel every time some LibbyDem Farker used the same old 'You don't think like I do, so you are a stupid poopy head' argument I would be GD farkin rich!


You sure told me.



To bad you didn't learn anything though
 
2013-01-19 01:44:50 PM

OhioKnight: Stimpy's Lost Fart: Seems pretty simple to me

Yep. I suspect lots of things seem pretty simple to you.

[images.wikia.com image 500x333]/potato


That kid iz dum. Dan Quayle tole me that it's spelled P-O-T-A-T-O-E.

derrrr.
 
2013-01-19 01:53:51 PM
so this guy figured out you can utter a few words and get a warm room, regular meals, and free health care outta it. ... my bet is they'll start clamping down on this if it gets too popular - - can't afford to give free chemo and heart surgery to the homeless. too expensive.
 
2013-01-19 01:54:33 PM
So this guy gets thrown in jail for threatening to kill the president, yet Kansas Dumbass Mike O'Neal calls for Obama's death via "prayer", and nothing happens to him.

http://www.examiner.com/article/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop- t o-pray-for-obama-s-death
 
2013-01-19 01:57:58 PM

8Fingers: A. Snatchfold: 8Fingers: A. Snatchfold: OhioUGrad: EkimProx: Instead of threatening to kill the president, why not BE the president?

Why work when you can just get things handed to you.......he must be a liberal.

These are the talking points RWNJs parrot when they don't have the critical thinking skills necessary to form a coherent argument.. If I had a nickel for every time 'X must be an Obama voter' or 'liberals don't work and want free stuff' in comment sections, I'd be a... nickelaire.


And if I had a nickel every time some LibbyDem Farker used the same old 'You don't think like I do, so you are a stupid poopy head' argument I would be GD farkin rich!


You sure told me.


To bad you didn't learn anything though



Oh snap, twice in a row you got me. Good one, son.
 
2013-01-19 02:04:10 PM
When enough people's lives are worse outside of jail than if they were in jail, the private prison lobby will be very happy.
 
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