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(LA Times)   National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says that 16.2 million vehicles were recalled last year, surprising industry analysts who didn't realize that Chrysler had actually sold that many cars   (articles.latimes.com) divider line 13
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2013-01-19 08:26:32 AM
Toyota led the list with the biggest recall in history last year.


Toyota had more vehicles involved in recalls than any other maker in the U.S. in 2010 and came just short of achieving that dubious distinction again in 2011.  A large recall late in the year, however, put Honda at the top of the list.  Indeed,   Honda recalled 1.7 million vehiclesas part of three separate service actions last week - while NHTSA launched an investigation into potential problems involving another 600,000 vehicles.

While there have been scores of recalls announced this year involving every brand from Chevrolet to Ferrari, with today's announcement, it appears that both Toyota and Honda are again in an unwanted race to lead the recall list again for 2012.
 
2013-01-19 10:28:42 AM
given all of the component sharing across model lines, geographies, and companies these days, the number of massive recalls will only continue to increase.
 
2013-01-19 10:40:28 AM

notmtwain: Toyota and Honda are again in an unwanted race to lead the recall list again for 2012.


And will continue to lead the recall lists until people stop considering them to be better cars than a Ford.

My Honda had a "recall" that involved me going in and having a spring replaced because if I didn't it'd have been harder to find reverse while standing still. That's every bit as scary as that whole "three different recalls fixing three different things that make your 2013 Ford Escape burst into flames" recalls.
 
2013-01-19 11:04:58 AM

unlikely: notmtwain: Toyota and Honda are again in an unwanted race to lead the recall list again for 2012.

And will continue to lead the recall lists until people stop considering them to be better cars than a Ford.

My Honda had a "recall" that involved me going in and having a spring replaced because if I didn't it'd have been harder to find reverse while standing still. That's every bit as scary as that whole "three different recalls fixing three different things that make your 2013 Ford Escape burst into flames" recalls.


How bad is the new Honda recall?


In 2012, Honda recalled one of their models for a safety risk about once every month:

In February, Honda recalled more than 8,000 Honda Pilots and Acura MDXs for "fuel leaks"
In March, Honda recalled nearly 46,000 Odyssey minivans for "problems with falling rear doors"
In April, Honda recalled over 554,000 various models over faulty headlights
In May, Honda recalled 53,000 Acura sedans for "a problem with power steering hoses"
In June, Honda recalled 50,000 Honda Civics for "a potential issue with the left driveshaft"
In July, Honda recalled over 172,000 various models for problems with their front-door latches
In September, Honda recalled 572,000 Accords due to an issue with the power steering hoses
In October, Honda recalled 268,000 vehicles due to the possibility a window switch could catch fire
In December, Honda 870,000 vehicles "because they can roll away even though drivers have removed the keys from the ignition."

// Yes, you're right. None of these sounds like a serious problem.
 
2013-01-19 11:15:00 AM

notmtwain: unlikely: notmtwain: Toyota and Honda are again in an unwanted race to lead the recall list again for 2012.

And will continue to lead the recall lists until people stop considering them to be better cars than a Ford.

My Honda had a "recall" that involved me going in and having a spring replaced because if I didn't it'd have been harder to find reverse while standing still. That's every bit as scary as that whole "three different recalls fixing three different things that make your 2013 Ford Escape burst into flames" recalls.

How bad is the new Honda recall?


In 2012, Honda recalled one of their models for a safety risk about once every month:

In February, Honda recalled more than 8,000 Honda Pilots and Acura MDXs for "fuel leaks"
In March, Honda recalled nearly 46,000 Odyssey minivans for "problems with falling rear doors"
In April, Honda recalled over 554,000 various models over faulty headlights
In May, Honda recalled 53,000 Acura sedans for "a problem with power steering hoses"
In June, Honda recalled 50,000 Honda Civics for "a potential issue with the left driveshaft"
In July, Honda recalled over 172,000 various models for problems with their front-door latches
In September, Honda recalled 572,000 Accords due to an issue with the power steering hoses
In October, Honda recalled 268,000 vehicles due to the possibility a window switch could catch fire
In December, Honda 870,000 vehicles "because they can roll away even though drivers have removed the keys from the ignition."

// Yes, you're right. None of these sounds like a serious problem.


Gotta love that fine quality control program Honda has for their parts suppliers, don'tcha?
 
2013-01-19 11:22:11 AM
I'll be the first to admit that up until about 2009-2010 American cars kinda sucked. But the past 2-3 years they've really upped their game and you'd be a fool to deny that. This is not true of all American cars, but it is representative of most.

/offer does not apply to the 2010 Town and Country minivan
 
2013-01-19 11:23:28 AM

ClavellBCMI: notmtwain: unlikely: notmtwain: Toyota and Honda are again in an unwanted race to lead the recall list again for 2012.

And will continue to lead the recall lists until people stop considering them to be better cars than a Ford.

My Honda had a "recall" that involved me going in and having a spring replaced because if I didn't it'd have been harder to find reverse while standing still. That's every bit as scary as that whole "three different recalls fixing three different things that make your 2013 Ford Escape burst into flames" recalls.

How bad is the new Honda recall?


In 2012, Honda recalled one of their models for a safety risk about once every month:

In February, Honda recalled more than 8,000 Honda Pilots and Acura MDXs for "fuel leaks"
In March, Honda recalled nearly 46,000 Odyssey minivans for "problems with falling rear doors"
In April, Honda recalled over 554,000 various models over faulty headlights
In May, Honda recalled 53,000 Acura sedans for "a problem with power steering hoses"
In June, Honda recalled 50,000 Honda Civics for "a potential issue with the left driveshaft"
In July, Honda recalled over 172,000 various models for problems with their front-door latches
In September, Honda recalled 572,000 Accords due to an issue with the power steering hoses
In October, Honda recalled 268,000 vehicles due to the possibility a window switch could catch fire
In December, Honda 870,000 vehicles "because they can roll away even though drivers have removed the keys from the ignition."

// Yes, you're right. None of these sounds like a serious problem.

Gotta love that fine quality control program Honda has for their parts suppliers, don'tcha?


Quality really took a dive when they started assembling cars in the states. They are starting to resemble the "big 3" ( I laughed as I typed that) more than the "big 3". U.S.A.! U.S.A.!
 
2013-01-19 11:35:48 AM

notmtwain: // Yes, you're right. None of these sounds like a serious problem.


Not as serious as "Causes the fuel line to burst into flames during normal driving operation," no.
 
2013-01-19 12:00:01 PM
Chrysler, sure...Dodge trucks ? no so much.

/part of Chrysler.
//jus' sayin'
 
2013-01-19 01:23:21 PM

unlikely: notmtwain: // Yes, you're right. None of these sounds like a serious problem.

Not as serious as "Causes the fuel line to burst into flames during normal driving operation," no.


Isn't this a percentage of failure thing? Like would I rather have a 1% of catastrophic failure, or a 5% chance of medium failure.
 
2013-01-19 01:58:39 PM
Another Fark knee jerk Chrysler bashing topic, subby is a buffoon.
 
2013-01-19 02:21:35 PM
cue fight club equation speech.
 
2013-01-19 07:26:02 PM
I am Jack's Total Lack of Surprise.
 
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