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(LA Times)   Seemingly in response to Dunkin' Donuts, Krispy Kreme plans to grow from 740 to 1,300 stores by 2017. Average U.S. waist size to grow proportionally from 38 to 42   (latimes.com) divider line 98
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2013-01-19 08:03:56 AM
Fatties gonna fat.
 
2013-01-19 08:08:07 AM
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Most of its existing stores are owned by franchisees abroad. There are 506 international Krispy Kremes, including the first store in India, which opened this week.  Saudi Arabia, with 95, has the most.

What other US-based brands are more successful overseas than in the US?
 
2013-01-19 08:46:18 AM
Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.
 
2013-01-19 08:56:48 AM
Well, I just hope that KK revamps the way they do business.  I honestly do not understand why they would set up a business model that causes direct competition between corporate and franchisees.
 
2013-01-19 08:57:21 AM
Dunkin Donuts has the edge when it comes to their  coffee, but for a real religious experience nothing and I mean nothing compares to a fresh out of the oven Krispy Kreme doughnut. Those things will give your mouth an orgasm.
 
2013-01-19 09:28:50 AM

gridlocksammy: Dunkin Donuts has the edge when it comes to their  coffee, but for a real religious experience nothing and I mean nothing compares to a fresh out of the oven Krispy Kreme doughnut. Those things will give your mouth an orgasm.


So much this.  My best KK story.  Was in Vegas for the first time.  There was a KK in the Excalibur, went there one morning after a Night in Vegas got two doughnuts.  They were taken directly from the production line, put in a box and handed to me.  Was one of the most fantastic things I've eaten.
 
2013-01-19 09:30:00 AM

notmtwain: What other US-based brands are more successful overseas than in the US?


The famous pasta chain, Death To aMarios!
 
2013-01-19 09:31:21 AM

notmtwain: What other US-based brands are more successful overseas than in the US?


david hasselhoff
 
2013-01-19 09:42:54 AM

notmtwain: [s1.sufrati.com image 500x339]

Most of its existing stores are owned by franchisees abroad. There are 506 international Krispy Kremes, including the first store in India, which opened this week.  Saudi Arabia, with 95, has the most.

What other US-based brands are more successful overseas than in the US?


Krispy Kreme did very poorly in Australia and closed stores.
There are recent years were McDonnalds made more profit in Australia than they did in the USA considering the 13 fold size difference. Subway, KFC and Burger King have done very well downunder but Taco Bell was a failure and couldn't operate in Vic due to their name being too close to Taco Bill.  There were rumors that Quiznos failed due to poor management from a local company called Wendys that sells hot dogs and ice cream.  I wonder why more franchises don't try to take over the local market.
 
2013-01-19 09:54:00 AM

gridlocksammy: Dunkin Donuts has the edge when it comes to their  coffee, but for a real religious experience nothing and I mean nothing compares to a fresh out of the oven Krispy Kreme doughnut. Those things will give your mouth an orgasm.


That's because the "oven" is a vat of boiling lard.

Mmmmm... lard.
 
2013-01-19 09:55:54 AM
We used to have two KK in my city here (around 250k), and they both closed down a few years ago, so, will be interesting to see if they reopen somewhere here with that expansion.  The one building was already taken by a McAllister's Deli, which is a better thing to have anyway.  Sounds like they want to be in smaller footprints anyway.
 
2013-01-19 10:45:16 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


There are only a few in Denver and the one I went to folded and became a Starbucks. Lamar's is better anyway.
 
2013-01-19 10:47:41 AM
Mmmmm.... boiled lard cakes, with a coating of pure sugar. We need more, more, more.

Donuts seem to be the only unregulated thing America manufactures anymore.
 
2013-01-19 10:49:00 AM
One of these stores is about 3 blocks from me, and I cannot wait. I may go set up camp as soon as they break ground, LOL.
 
2013-01-19 10:49:24 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


Pretty much this. All the stores they opened in the NE flourished from the novelty for a small time, then got whomped when people discovered they wanted an actual donut and not the equivalent of eating a (granted a very nice and tasty) sugary cloud. Then there was DD's coffee, which fuels most if not all New Englanders.

KK is great, don't get me wrong. It was sufficiently different that the donuts never caught on.
 
2013-01-19 10:51:05 AM
KK has no chance here in Chicagoland. Every one we had here that I know of closed. Too sweet and not much variety.
 
2013-01-19 10:53:36 AM
America sounds fat.
 
2013-01-19 10:54:11 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


This. And I don't care what you say, KK has zero variety and are way too sweet anyway. I'll stick with Dunkies any day over them. If I want fried dough, there's tons at carnivals and bakeries here.

\Portuguese malasadas FTMFW!
 
2013-01-19 10:57:57 AM
The average is 38? holy shiat. I'm at 34 and feel like a fatass, have you people no shame? I know why I don't lose weight, because I eat and drink whatever the fark I want, I restrict that shiat and it goes away.
 
2013-01-19 11:01:40 AM
Dunkin' Donuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Krispy Kreme
 
2013-01-19 11:03:51 AM
The Columbia KK is literally right around the corner from the house, so on Saturday and Sunday mornings, we're there - but DDs has better donuts (not quite as teeth-itchingly sweet) and a better selection, so once a month or so I make the fifteen-mile round trip to the only DD in town.

/worth it
 
2013-01-19 11:03:58 AM
Hey Krispy Kreme, didn't you try this about 12 years ago? All of your shops near me were gone by '06.
Not hating.....I always make time to stop at the KK in Charlotte (WOOOOO) North Carolina on my way down south.
 
2013-01-19 11:07:24 AM
Donuts suck.

Go Kringle.
 
2013-01-19 11:11:39 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


You're right. They were here in the Boston area then gone so quickly it was like a flash of lightning. I never got to see what people rave about.
 
2013-01-19 11:15:05 AM
Ok...gotta admit I am not a skinny person, so it's pretty concerning that the average waist size is now larger than mine.

/Do I get to describe myself as 'slim' on dating sites now?
 
2013-01-19 11:15:55 AM
Is this a repeat of 10 years ago?
 
2013-01-19 11:16:51 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


That was my thought exactly. They were popular when they first opened, but I think the novelty wore off. Our local mom n pop shop makes better donuts, and we rarely get donuts anyway. Unhealthy little monsters.
 
2013-01-19 11:18:01 AM

notmtwain: What other US-based brands are more successful overseas than in the US?


Kentucky Fried Chicken. Very successful in the mid-east and Japan.
 
2013-01-19 11:21:57 AM

pudgyv: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.

You're right. They were here in the Boston area then gone so quickly it was like a flash of lightning. I never got to see what people rave about.


Yep. Same thing happened here in Connecticut. Krispy Kreme tried expanding into the Northeast during the Atkins Diet craze...I don't think it lasted a year. There is a happy ending though, since the building now houses a DiBella's sub shop.
 
2013-01-19 11:22:49 AM

Mr. Breeze: Is this a repeat of 10 years ago?


Yep.  They must have forgot that rapid expansion can be very very bad.
 
2013-01-19 11:23:03 AM

Girion47: The average is 38? holy shiat. I'm at 34 and feel like a fatass, have you people no shame? I know why I don't lose weight, because I eat and drink whatever the fark I want, I restrict that shiat and it goes away.


Your average pant size-as long as it's not on the extreme ends of the spectrum--has very little to do with whether or not you are obese.

Now the amount of KK donuts you consume? That has a direct correlation. I would posit that anyone who visits KK an average of more than once a month sees a statistically significant increase in the likelihood of being classified as obese. Someone test this for me pls.
 
2013-01-19 11:28:28 AM
The local KK closed within about a year of opening. The building now houses a dental office.

/karma for the sugar coated wheat bombs.
 
2013-01-19 11:31:00 AM

GypsyJoker: Dunkin' Donuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Krispy Kreme


This

KK sucks. If the only time your donuts are tasty is the first 30 seconds after being removed the production line, you're making shiatty donuts.
 
2013-01-19 11:34:41 AM

netcentric: Mmmmm.... boiled lard cakes, with a coating of pure sugar. We need more, more, more.

Donuts seem to be the only unregulated thing America manufactures anymore.


That's because all the cops would say wa-oh way-oh way-oh if called on to enforce the law
 
2013-01-19 11:34:55 AM

MFAWG: One of these stores is about 3 blocks from me, and I cannot wait. I may go set up camp as soon as they break ground, LOL.


Three blocks! Will that batteries on your scooter last long enough to get you there?
 
2013-01-19 11:36:11 AM
I wasn't very fond of KrispyKreme when I lived in Austin. Ken's Donuts on Guadalupe had a better donut and you could get day-olds for $2 a dozen. I'd be a hundred pounds heavier if I hadn't stopped being able to eat donuts when I was 22. Since then eating a donut--of whatever type-equals horrible spitfire heartburn within ten minutes.
 
2013-01-19 11:37:04 AM
The last time KK did this expansion it was an epic fail. What are they going to do different this time?
 
2013-01-19 11:37:30 AM

Nuclear Monk: Ok...gotta admit I am not a skinny person, so it's pretty concerning that the average waist size is now larger than mine.

/Do I get to describe myself as 'slim' on dating sites now?


depends on your jacket size, 46L sure. 36R, then No
 
2013-01-19 11:38:20 AM
Also, [pedantic] if the waist size of Americans really did grow proportionally to the number of KrispyKremes, it would be size 68 [/pedantic].
 
2013-01-19 11:38:44 AM

Teufelaffe: GypsyJoker: Dunkin' Donuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Krispy Kreme

This

KK sucks. If the only time your donuts are tasty is the first 30 seconds after being removed the production line, you're making shiatty donuts.


It's been my experience that they're still pretty damned good for at least 8 hours after they come out of the oven. Dunkin does have the advantage in longevity though.
 
2013-01-19 11:40:30 AM
Because KK did so well the last time they tried to open a large number of stores...
 
2013-01-19 11:40:54 AM
Sweet like a box of Krispy Kreme...
 
2013-01-19 11:42:24 AM

Fano: That's because all the cops would say wa-oh way-oh way-oh if called on to enforce the law


They're got the moves, you drop your drink then they bring you more.
 
2013-01-19 11:45:27 AM

Neondistraction: It's been my experience that they're still pretty damned good for at least 8 hours after they come out of the oven. Dunkin does have the advantage in longevity though.


When they get cold, put a KK donut into a microwave for 10 seconds. no more. Softens them right up and makes them warm like right off the line.

Slightly OT: Who here has seen the episode of 'Duck Dynasty' where they have a contest over who can eat the most warm donuts and rail thin Si puts away 29?
 
2013-01-19 11:46:53 AM

Teufelaffe: GypsyJoker: Dunkin' Donuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Krispy Kreme

This

KK sucks. If the only time your donuts are tasty is the first 30 seconds after being removed the production line, you're making shiatty donuts.


You're correct - if they are only good hot out of the fat, you have a problem.

I could well be mis-remembering this didn't KK become popular because Bill Clinton or somebody on his staff loved them? It was faddish, kind of like Jelly Belly jelly beans when Reagan was in office. If I am not again mistaken, hasn't their popularity been more or less waning ever since?

Since they're a business and having more stores would offer more jobs, I wish them well. But I probably won't rush out to buy their stock. I know they've recovered from their 09 lows, as have most companies, but they're nowhere near their 10 and 20 year highs.
 
2013-01-19 11:58:31 AM
KK sold franchises to people who had no food service experience (I know two of those people, who lost their franchises). I remember DD in Arizona before they pulled out of the state in the 80s (they are back now) and think they are better (taste and variety). Making a donut that is only good hot is silly.
 
2013-01-19 12:06:13 PM

traxan: Neondistraction: It's been my experience that they're still pretty damned good for at least 8 hours after they come out of the oven. Dunkin does have the advantage in longevity though.

When they get cold, put a KK donut into a microwave for 10 seconds. no more. Softens them right up and makes them warm like right off the line.

Slightly OT: Who here has seen the episode of 'Duck Dynasty' where they have a contest over who can eat the most warm donuts and rail thin Si puts away 29?


Don't forget, he also won the camper. I love, love that show. Si is the man! He is nuts, but I like him. When he plays the elf at the kids' Christmas party--priceless

Oh, and Dunkin is so much better than KK.
 
2013-01-19 12:08:14 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Didn't they try this already and fail? I seem to remember a big push here in the northeast from Krispy Kreme that withered and died against the monolith that is Dunkin' Donuts.


Man I've never understood the fascination with donuts. When Krispy kreme was new to the scene, or at least for us, my buddy drove my happy ass all the way to Portland from the coast on account of me never had one.

Was it good? Yes. Was it better than other things. No. Bunch of sugar and starch, I'm not a child. I'll stick to Umami and Salt for my palatable tactlessness.

As for dunken donuts, those had always widely been regarded as shatholes from when I was growing up. Guess people will put up with anything to be able to claim X is better than Y.
 
2013-01-19 12:09:39 PM
Krispy Kreme is god awful. It's like sugar on sugar, no finesse.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:03 PM
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Although, I don't really care for them. Evey one I've tried was damp and overly sweet. Of course I like old-fashioned and cinnamon-sugar, so I am perhaps not the target market.

And I don't want a liquid donut.
 
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