JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.
CruiserTwelve: Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.
Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.
ZAZ: Welcome to equal treatment, two wheeled road-sharers.
Beerguy: serial_crusher: CalvinMorallis: Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?Officer: "the reason I'm giving you a ticket for unsafe speed is because you're arguing with me"So, which law did he break? was he speeding, because in that case shouldn't that have been the reason he was given the ticket?Keep in mind this was after the cop already accused him of riding on the wrong side of the road, but for some reason decided not to make that what he was ticketing him about.I'm the first to call out videos that don't show the whole story, but from the part we did see, that cop is at least a terrible communicator.Don't forget that the guy was only driving on the wrong side because the Cop was blocking the guys direction to begin with.
Beerguy: 1. Block one direction of bike path.2. Incense bicyclists who call you on it.3.Ticket them because they are arguing with you.4. City Profit!
muck4doo: The other option is try to be a decent human being and get out of the business of robbing people of their liberty.
Mock26: The whole "there are more serious crimes" whine is really, really lame, and people who use it are morons. And, Yes, in retrospect the guy probably would have been better off not saying a word to the police officer. If it was me I would have simply gone around him and muttered under my breath about him being a dick. But, I am not everyone. Others are more vocal than I am in these situations. Not only that, but the guy has a Constitutionally protected right to say what he said. He did not go out of his way to be a dick. He merely expressed his opinion to the police officer that he was blocking the path. The only person being a dick in the video is the police officer. He got a case of butt hurt over being told off by a cyclist and then tries to come up with any reason at all to ticket the guy.
Errk: radiumsoup: Errk: Too bad we didn't see the whole incident....You only need to see the first 5 seconds to get the gist... when the cop says "the reason I'm giving you a ticket is because you're arguing with me", he's crossed the line into indefensible territory, no matter what else may have happened off camera. Nobody forced the guy to become a cop, he should understand what it is he signed up for... which is to enforce the laws of his jurisdiction, not to give people "lessons" on being polite by summoning them to court. If he can't figure that out, he needs to get a different job.It all goes back to treating people decent. If your not a dick to a cop, waitress, cashier, etc then they will most likely be decent to you too.
Slappajo: radiumsoup: Slappajo: So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...You should give lectures on the merits of liberty in a free society.Oh, wait, no... I was thinking of someone else.There's a difference between "liberty" and going out of your way to be an asshole.
macadamnut: Slappajo: How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?Saying "get out of the way, asshole" to some asshole who's in everybody's way is always the right thing to do.
CruiserTwelve: I agree with everything you said but I'll add this: In my experience with three different law enforcement agencies, cops that are bullies rarely last very long. They burn out quickly because they find out police work is generally boring and repetitious, or they get tired of being constantly scrutinized and disciplined for their bad behavior.
Errk: Too bad we didn't see the whole incident....
Buffalo77: You want to know what he did wrong, he mouthed off to a cop as he rode around him.If he said nothing, then no incident would have occurred. Lucky he didn't get a baton to the head to knock out the camera.
abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.
RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes
skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.
MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.
Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]
eggrolls: Idiot cop admitted on tape that he was giving him the ticket for an illegal reason. After that, any other argument from the cop is moot.
serial_crusher: MFAWG: some bicyclist killed a 75 year old lady on a bike path not too far from Casa MFAWG last year because he was going way too fast.If it's the story I'm thinking of, it was because she stepped left without looking while he was passing her. That's her fault in my book.
ilambiquated: This cop should go to jail. "I'm going to write you a ticket for unsafe speed because you're talking back to me" is criminal abuse of power.People should be much more pissed off about this kind of thing. Americans are sheep.
RectalFury: Here's my plan America.So, we need stricter gun control. The gunsturbators need to feel like bad-asses.Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes - imagine them wearing red coats, coming for your liberty.Once they're all gone, you need to turn in your gun.It's a win-win.
skinink: The ticket was cancelled so it sounds like it was the cop who was in the wrong. And just because someone's acting like a jerk doesn't mean they're breaking the law. Since when does wearing a badge means the cop is assumed to be in the right?I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.
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