So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?

Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...

CruiserTwelve: I agree with everything you said but I'll add this: In my experience with three different law enforcement agencies, cops that are bullies rarely last very long. They burn out quickly because they find out police work is generally boring and repetitious, or they get tired of being constantly scrutinized and disciplined for their bad behavior.

I find this hard to believe- if the bad cops 'burn out' quickly, then there would be no more bad cops. People who would make bad cops wouldn't apply to such a "boring and repetitious" job.

Of course, there ARE bad cops, so, since the logic is sound, the assumptions we start with ("cops that are bullies rarely last") must be wrong.

Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

Slappajo: So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?

Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...

You should give lectures on the merits of liberty in a free society.

Oh, wait, no... I was thinking of someone else.

Carth: Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

That bike can't do 20-30 mph, going downhill.

Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm

StoPPeRmobile: Carth: Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

That bike can't do 20-30 mph, going downhill.

That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

CalvinMorallis: So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?

Please clarify. I can't tell if this is trolling or a bewildering level of ignorance.

Yeah, they've only had like twenty years to figure them out!

CruiserTwelve: Tymast: CruiserTwelve: Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.

I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.

That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.

hey, do you cops have to wear weights to go swimming? must be hard when you walk on water all the time

Read my post again, especially the part that says this:

"the cop was wrong in doing that"

Then tell me more about the "walk on water" thing.

You know what they say about everything before the ", but" in a sentence.

Mac: Oh, c'mon, we're like the sons you never had.
Captain O'Hagan: If you were my son, Mac, I would've smothered you by now.
Mac: Smothered me in Gravey you big dirty man.

Slappajo: So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?

Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...

Maybe he felt like doing the right thing instead.

He did, and he won. So you are invited go ahead and lick the gravy sweat off my nutz after my next 20 mile ride.

Tank_Fuzzbutt: MFAWG: Tank_Fuzzbutt: My father was hired by the LAPD in 1949 and retired after 30 years. I think I can hear him spinning in his grave over what the LAPD has become.

The legend is that LAPD is pretty tame compared to what it was in those days. Not sure how true that is, though.

Somewhat true. But the average citizen wasn't harassed like today. Back then the small percentage of the population with criminal behavior anybody they thought might possibly be a criminal or darker than a caramel had the fear put in them. The guy riding his bicycle was never a problem. There's a difference between rolling a perp for snatching a purse and tackling a skateboarder for skating where he shouldn't be.

There, fixed that for you.

you'd think the LAPD would wise up to these camcorder things already


Subby, I think it just goes to show how rare it is for them to get recorded. Probably less than 1% of the time they are engaged in morally, ethically or legally bankrupt behavior.

That is just the nature of our police force, it corrupts from within as there is too little accountability for these people.

Trocadero Cops and cyclists. Kudos to you subby, you just might get your wings.

Actually ignoring a controversial mega-thread & even a link swiped by an unethical modmin, this marks my 800th Green here...

I happen to know Chris in person and helped share this virally. The comments above show how blinded by reality so many farkers are. The cops were blocking the path. He had to switch sides to ride past. Its a huge possibility the cop recognized him as someone who does activism in the area. He's also a Veteran. And I doubt he was speeding either as he was recovering from a leg injury.

/the more you know

Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.

Well, I think as soon as you have this on tape:

"Listen to me, sir. The reason why I'm going to write you for unsafe speed is because you are arguing with me"

...you're pretty much guaranteed the cop's actions are not going to see the light of court...

Carth: StoPPeRmobile: Carth: Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

That bike can't do 20-30 mph, going downhill.

That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

FlyingJ: Trocadero Cops and cyclists. Kudos to you subby, you just might get your wings.

Actually ignoring a controversial mega-thread & even a link swiped by an unethical modmin, this marks my 800th Green here...



/not sarcasm... thanks for the effort :)

Krieghund: Tank_Fuzzbutt: My father was hired by the LAPD in 1949 and retired after 30 years. I think I can hear him spinning in his grave over what the LAPD has become.

I'm sure your dad was a good cop and a good man, but LAPD between 1949 and 1979 was no better than it is today.


What do base that on, good netiquette? His dad sounds like a genuine scumbag to me.

We have become a society where lying is polite and plain-speaking honesty is criminal. The police are creative contributors to society in this, and only this respect.

Unpossible! A cop abusing his power? Un-Fning-possible.
We all know pigs, er cops, never abuse their power.
Get a life moran!!1! I mean citizen!1!!!

StoPPeRmobile: Carth: StoPPeRmobile: Carth: Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

That bike can't do 20-30 mph, going downhill.

That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

It is the The Capital Pathway a 236 kilometer trail The site says the speed limit is actually 20 kph but it only applies to cyclists.

david_gaithersburg: If everyone practiced open carry this would not have happened.

That piggy should have gone down in a hail of righteous gunfire! Wolverines!

I had no idea Fark was full of so much anti-bike sentiment. You'd think half the people on here as kids had their puppies run over by a cyclist running a red light, who then stopped and told them that Santa wasn't real, the tooth fairy didn't exist, and that their parents were getting a divorce and it was all their fault.

Yes, cyclists can act like jerks, so can cars, so can pedestrians, so can everyone. Why the particular hate over bikes? Plus, that guy was riding a granny beach cruiser ON THE BEACH. I could see hating on some spandex clad speed demon, but this guy? Come on.

Chup: I had no idea Fark was full of so much anti-bike sentiment. You'd think half the people on here as kids had their puppies run over by a cyclist running a red light, who then stopped and told them that Santa wasn't real, the tooth fairy didn't exist, and that their parents were getting a divorce and it was all their fault.

Yes, cyclists can act like jerks, so can cars, so can pedestrians, so can everyone. Why the particular hate over bikes? Plus, that guy was riding a granny beach cruiser ON THE BEACH. I could see hating on some spandex clad speed demon, but this guy? Come on.

Fat farks idling in their cars are pissy to begin with... show them a cyclist decked out like a space homo from planet spandex, and he's gonna draw their ire.

StoPPeRmobile: That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

Yep, 15 MPH on our local "bike paths", too, which allow any non-motorized use. There are plenty of bikes using them, but also pedestrians (who often have an iPod plugged into their ears, so can't hear me coming), joggers, grannies with their walkers, little kids, roller- and skate-boarders, dogs, etc, I have two horns...a classic bell and an airhorn for the dumbshiats who can't hear the bell over the sound of whatever shiat is playing on their iPod.

I've seen city cops with hand-held radar guns on the path, too...tho always at the same spot at the bottom of a hill where it'd be easy to exceed the speed limit. 15 MPH works for me on the bike path. If I need to go faster I use the surface streets.

StoPPeRmobile: Carth: StoPPeRmobile: Carth: Ilmarinen: abhorrent1: Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed.

RectalFury: Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes

skinink: I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.

MFAWG: Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.

Milos Hattrick: [cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com image 584x285]

Stay fat, America.

Also, a speed limit for cyclists, seriously??

It looks like a mixed use path. If that is the case you need a speed limit to stop cyclists from going 20-30 mph and running over little old ladies walking their dog.

That bike can't do 20-30 mph, going downhill.

That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

I live close to that path. Its actually supposed to be bike only but people walk and run on it all the time so technically, the cop should be removing those on foot. I am not familiar with the multitude of redundant laws, so I don't know if he should be ticketing the walkers/runners, or if there is a speed limit on the path. I have never seen a speed limit posted, so if it exists, its only in the cop's head.

radiumsoup: Slappajo: So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?

Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...

You should give lectures on the merits of liberty in a free society.

Oh, wait, no... I was thinking of someone else.

There's a difference between "liberty" and going out of your way to be an asshole.

CruiserTwelve: macadamnut: So if you, personally, did agree with attitude tickets, then the cop would be right, right?

Kind of a pointless argument, isn't it? You're asking me if I disagreed with myself, wouldn't I then have a different opinion?

I think my point was that a given police officer's decision making process is highly subjective and relates to his country/state/city's actual laws in name only.

Stone Meadow: StoPPeRmobile: That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

Yep, 15 MPH on our local "bike paths", too, which allow any non-motorized use. There are plenty of bikes using them, but also pedestrians (who often have an iPod plugged into their ears, so can't hear me coming), joggers, grannies with their walkers, little kids, roller- and skate-boarders, dogs, etc, I have two horns...a classic bell and an airhorn for the dumbshiats who can't hear the bell over the sound of whatever shiat is playing on their iPod.

I've seen city cops with hand-held radar guns on the path, too...tho always at the same spot at the bottom of a hill where it'd be easy to exceed the speed limit. 15 MPH works for me on the bike path. If I need to go faster I use the surface streets.

The trouble is, once that path is there, and you avoid it because of the speed limit, and the overcrowding that made the limit necessary, you get the "Why don't you use the bike path?" bit. Bike paths are for pedestrians and children as far as I'm concerned. Walking is a better workout than fifteen MPH on a bicycle. Unless you are riding a bicycle against a stiff headwind, or uphill.

Bigjohn3592: Slappajo: So why couldn't the bicyclist go around the cop, mind his own business, and keep his mouth shut?

Sounds like the bicyclist wanted some attention so he got it...

Maybe he felt like doing the right thing instead.

He did, and he won. So you are invited go ahead and lick the gravy sweat off my nutz after my next 20 mile ride.

How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?

Stone Meadow: StoPPeRmobile: That bike? God no. But some can which is why a lot of multiuse paths have a 15 mph speed limit. The one near our house has a 25 kph speed limit for that exact reason if you want to go faster you can still bike on the road.

15 MPH? Dafuk?

Sounds like a "No Running" zone. Is this an elementary school?

Yep, 15 MPH on our local "bike paths", too, which allow any non-motorized use. There are plenty of bikes using them, but also pedestrians (who often have an iPod plugged into their ears, so can't hear me coming), joggers, grannies with their walkers, little kids, roller- and skate-boarders, dogs, etc, I have two horns...a classic bell and an airhorn for the dumbshiats who can't hear the bell over the sound of whatever shiat is playing on their iPod.

I've seen city cops with hand-held radar guns on the path, too...tho always at the same spot at the bottom of a hill where it'd be easy to exceed the speed limit. 15 MPH works for me on the bike path. If I need to go faster I use the surface streets.

The area where that happened has (off the top of my head) 3 picnic areas, a dog park, a BMX park, and a couple of little beach areas along the river. So it's going to tend to be congested after 5pm on a Friday in June.

Slappajo: How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?

Saying "get out of the way, asshole" to some asshole who's in everybody's way is always the right thing to do.

Look at this gun grabbers. This is who you think should be defending you and have your interests at heart.

AcneVulgaris: Chup: I had no idea Fark was full of so much anti-bike sentiment. You'd think half the people on here as kids had their puppies run over by a cyclist running a red light, who then stopped and told them that Santa wasn't real, the tooth fairy didn't exist, and that their parents were getting a divorce and it was all their fault.

Yes, cyclists can act like jerks, so can cars, so can pedestrians, so can everyone. Why the particular hate over bikes? Plus, that guy was riding a granny beach cruiser ON THE BEACH. I could see hating on some spandex clad speed demon, but this guy? Come on.

Fat farks idling in their cars are pissy to begin with... show them a cyclist decked out like a space homo from planet spandex, and he's gonna draw their ire.

I bike to work everyday in regular clothes and on a "regular" bike, and I definitely encounter some bikers who are complete tools to both cars and other bikers, acting like they own the road. On the other hand, about 95% of my trip is in a dedicated bike lane and I've almost been hit 10+ times by cars turning through the bike lane, using the bike lane to drive in or pass cars near intersections, and just generally not paying attention. I can see where the biker jerks get their rage from, cause at some point the lack of concern for your safety in the interest of saving a few seconds commuting starts to grate on you.

Chup: I had no idea Fark was full of so much anti-bike sentiment. You'd think half the people on here as kids had their puppies run over by a cyclist running a red light, who then stopped and told them that Santa wasn't real, the tooth fairy didn't exist, and that their parents were getting a divorce and it was all their fault.

Yes, cyclists can act like jerks, so can cars, so can pedestrians, so can everyone. Why the particular hate over bikes? Plus, that guy was riding a granny beach cruiser ON THE BEACH. I could see hating on some spandex clad speed demon, but this guy? Come on.

We have a lot of authoritarian tards here who worship a strong government.

hlehmann: JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.

It's only 7:00AM (in my time zone), yet I bet you've broken at least a dozen laws so far today.

And you would be wrong, since I follow the law.

CruiserTwelve: Do you actually know any cops? About everything in your post is so far off reality that I see no reason to respond to it. Your beliefs seem to be based on TV show and movie cops and the occasional YouTube video, not real cops

You are a "real cop" you don't think attitude tickets are a big deal.

You are part of the problem and his view looks a lot closer to reality than yours.


Slappajo: How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?

You don't see how parking a motorcycle on a bike path is unrelated to a bicyclist?

Fat cop was too stupid to realize or too lazy to care that he was impeding traffic. He should get called out on that.

macadamnut: Slappajo: How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?

Saying "get out of the way, asshole" to some asshole who's in everybody's way is always the right thing to do.

I know right? Every time there's a traffic accident and the police have a lane of traffic blocked off and I have to merge into another lane, I always yell something at the cops.

CruiserTwelve: muck4doo: Look at this gun grabbers. This is who you think should be defending you and have your interests at heart.

In the "gun grabber" fantasy world, wouldn't the cops actually be the gun grabbers?

Why yes, yes they would.

I've got a bike. You can ride it if you like.

Slappajo: I know right? Every time there's a traffic accident and the police have a lane of traffic blocked off and I have to merge into another lane, I always yell something at the cops.

A traffic accident in a bicycle lane?

liam76: Slappajo: How is mouthing off to a cop (who was doing something completely unrelated to the bicyclist) as you go around him the "right" thing to do?

You don't see how parking a motorcycle on a bike path is unrelated to a bicyclist?

Fat cop was too stupid to realize or too lazy to care that he was impeding traffic. He should get called out on that.

My statement was made under the assumption that it is not against the law or that it is permitted for police officers to use a bike path IF it is parked there because they are doing their job.

If it is parked there so he has a shorter walk to the hot dog stand, then he shouldn't be parked there. But I still think the bicyclist is still a dick for mouthing off as he went around him. Just go around him. I go around bicyclists who are on the road all the time in my car. They're impeding traffic. Should I yell at each one of them?

However, if he was doing something related to his job, the the bicyclist should STFU and mind his own business.