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2013-01-19 09:06:42 AM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.
 
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2013-01-19 09:07:34 AM
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© skating on the bike path to Harold Faltermeyer is a crime in this county
 
2013-01-19 09:12:23 AM

JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.


Waaaaaaaaah, you cannot ticket someone for NOT breaking the law, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
 
2013-01-19 09:12:26 AM
Cop-stache detected.
 
2013-01-19 09:12:29 AM
Cop mustache.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-19 09:13:06 AM
a YouTube video of an LAPD officer pulling over and ticketing a bicyclist with little cause

Welcome to equal treatment, two wheeled road-sharers.
 
2013-01-19 09:15:50 AM
If everyone practiced open carry this would not have happened.
 
2013-01-19 09:16:40 AM
mmmmmmmm.....Gravey
 
2013-01-19 09:16:46 AM
Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.
 
2013-01-19 09:17:57 AM
Nothing to see here sheeple!


/get it? sheep people. because sheep with the wool and people with the thing.
 
2013-01-19 09:18:13 AM

Abox: Nothing to see here sheeple!


/get it? sheep people. because sheep with the wool and people with the thing.


lulz
 
2013-01-19 09:19:17 AM
1. Block one direction of bike path.

2. Incense bicyclists who call you on it.

3.Ticket them because they are arguing with you.

4. City Profit!
 
2013-01-19 09:19:51 AM
Cops who do this sort of thing are not really interested in fighting crime. They're interested in the power the badge gives them. They're basically lazy and go for the low hanging fruit. Such individuals are often lackadaisical with other aspects of the job and this can easily be seen by superiors who are conscious of their subordinates behavior and trained to observe their working habits outside of just keeping the positions filled and their own positions protected from scrutiny, especially when their own position is dependent on a conscientious application of the rules and responsibilities of the job.

These people need to be weeded out early in their careers, they are unsuitable for for the work.

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptable. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse Dune
 
2013-01-19 09:20:49 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.


That doesn't apply to everyone, at all.
 
2013-01-19 09:21:32 AM

JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.


Watch the video, cop is being a complete douche nozzle, the cyclist is being a bit testing, but only because cop is harassing the guy

/unsafe speed ticket for riding a granny bike
//all of my wut
 
2013-01-19 09:21:45 AM

Beerguy: 1. Block one direction of bike path.

2. Incense bicyclists who call you on it.

3.Ticket them because they are arguing with you.

4. City Profit!


Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?
 
2013-01-19 09:22:23 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.

That doesn't apply to everyone, at all.


There are an awful lot of cops out there who will do practically anything to escalate a situation from a traffic citation into a felony. Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.
 
2013-01-19 09:23:38 AM
Bicyclists are assholes and should be ticketed. Don't break the law and you won't have a problem! Oh right. Laws don't apply to bicyclists.
 
2013-01-19 09:24:08 AM
fark's he doin' in Italy?
 
2013-01-19 09:24:14 AM
He should have been ticketing all the retards that walk on that path. It only says bikes only about a million times.
 
2013-01-19 09:24:47 AM
Here's my plan America.

So, we need stricter gun control. The gunsturbators need to feel like bad-asses.

Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes - imagine them wearing red coats, coming for your liberty.
Once they're all gone, you need to turn in your gun.

It's a win-win.
 
2013-01-19 09:25:08 AM

Deathfrogg: Cops who do this sort of thing are not really interested in fighting crime. They're interested in the power the badge gives them. They're basically lazy and go for the low hanging fruit. Such individuals are often lackadaisical with other aspects of the job and this can easily be seen by superiors who are conscious of their subordinates behavior and trained to observe their working habits outside of just keeping the positions filled and their own positions protected from scrutiny, especially when their own position is dependent on a conscientious application of the rules and responsibilities of the job.

These people need to be weeded out early in their careers, they are unsuitable for for the work.

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptable. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse Dune


It's dumb cops like this that are the reason I'm gonna get a helmet cam for the spring motorcycle start

/also for recording funny things on my trips, and the dumbass drivers who almost always nearly run me down
 
2013-01-19 09:26:15 AM

ZAZ: Welcome to equal treatment, two wheeled road-sharers.


Stop driving on bike paths.
 
2013-01-19 09:27:14 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.


The ticket was cancelled so it sounds like it was the cop who was in the wrong. And just because someone's acting like a jerk doesn't mean they're breaking the law. Since when does wearing a badge means the cop is assumed to be in the right?

I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.
 
2013-01-19 09:28:28 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Wait a minute, at what point does he start recording? If it's after he's been stopped by the officer, we're supposed to take his word that he didn't do anything wrong? Most police officers will give you a break if you're not a dick.


Read the article again, slowly this time. Pay particular attention to the quote where the cop outlines his rationale for giving the guy a ticket.
 
2013-01-19 09:28:48 AM

skinink: The ticket was cancelled so it sounds like it was the cop who was in the wrong. And just because someone's acting like a jerk doesn't mean they're breaking the law. Since when does wearing a badge means the cop is assumed to be in the right?

I hate this story because it makes me defend the bicyclist. I feel dirty over it.


Well if they did cancel it, then probably the cop was in the wrong. I just hate this "turn the video on at the right time" kind of justice. I think both people involved are dicks.
 
2013-01-19 09:30:14 AM
Unregistered, uninsured vehicle and no driver's license... that's a finin'.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-19 09:30:19 AM

Deathfrogg: Cops who do this sort of thing are not really interested in fighting crime. They're interested in the power the badge gives them. They're basically lazy and go for the low hanging fruit. Such individuals are often lackadaisical with other aspects of the job and this can easily be seen by superiors who are conscious of their subordinates behavior and trained to observe their working habits outside of just keeping the positions filled and their own positions protected from scrutiny, especially when their own position is dependent on a conscientious application of the rules and responsibilities of the job.

These people need to be weeded out early in their careers, they are unsuitable for for the work.

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptable. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse Dune


^^^^THIS^^^^ because it is clearly on-point and an accurate assessment of this awful LEOs shenanigans.
Other than getting some truly unwanted, unwelcome, and unneeded BAD press for his organization he achieved very little.
I am sure there are good officers in his group shaking their heads, thinking "thanks for the crappy media coverage, asshat"
 
2013-01-19 09:31:37 AM

JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.


Didn't click on the link, because I was 100 pct sure this was another asshole bicyclist being and asshole.
 
2013-01-19 09:31:45 AM

RectalFury: Here's my plan America.

So, we need stricter gun control. The gunsturbators need to feel like bad-asses.

Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes - imagine them wearing red coats, coming for your liberty.
Once they're all gone, you need to turn in your gun.

It's a win-win.



Or...

We could put out PSAs encouraging potential public shooters to direct their fire in more constructive ways. Not saying at cyclists necessarily (*cough*CriticalMass) we could probably as a society come up with good suggestions...say, the next Westboro Baptist Church protest.
 
2013-01-19 09:33:40 AM
Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.

I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.

That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.
 
2013-01-19 09:33:54 AM
cyclebicycle.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-19 09:36:33 AM

Abox: RectalFury: Here's my plan America.

So, we need stricter gun control. The gunsturbators need to feel like bad-asses.

Let's send a memo, all gun owners who wish to participate are allowed to "practice" on all these bike assholes - imagine them wearing red coats, coming for your liberty.
Once they're all gone, you need to turn in your gun.

It's a win-win.


Or...

We could put out PSAs encouraging potential public shooters to direct their fire in more constructive ways. Not saying at cyclists necessarily (*cough*CriticalMass) we could probably as a society come up with good suggestions...say, the next Westboro Baptist Church protest.


Dude, - they could finally be part of a well armed militia.
 
2013-01-19 09:37:21 AM
This cop should go to jail. "I'm going to write you a ticket for unsafe speed because you're talking back to me" is criminal abuse of power.

People should be much more pissed off about this kind of thing. Americans are sheep.
 
2013-01-19 09:37:29 AM
I always used to call the spandex patrol Lance when they ran the red light in front of me, I slammed my breaks and they looked at me with their Oakleys on with righteous indignation.

Now, I don't know what to call those dipshiats, even the head dipshiat is a tool.
 
2013-01-19 09:38:51 AM

CruiserTwelve: Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.

I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.

That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.


hey, do you cops have to wear weights to go swimming? must be hard when you walk on water all the time
 
2013-01-19 09:46:28 AM

CalvinMorallis: Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?


Officer: "the reason I'm giving you a ticket for unsafe speed is because you're arguing with me"
So, which law did he break?  was he speeding, because in that case shouldn't that have been the reason he was given the ticket?
Keep in mind this was after the cop already accused him of riding on the wrong side of the road, but for some reason decided not to make that what he was ticketing him about.

I'm the first to call out videos that don't show the whole story, but from the part we did see, that cop is at least a terrible communicator.
 
2013-01-19 09:49:38 AM

serial_crusher: CalvinMorallis: Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?

Officer: "the reason I'm giving you a ticket for unsafe speed is because you're arguing with me"
So, which law did he break?  was he speeding, because in that case shouldn't that have been the reason he was given the ticket?
Keep in mind this was after the cop already accused him of riding on the wrong side of the road, but for some reason decided not to make that what he was ticketing him about.

I'm the first to call out videos that don't show the whole story, but from the part we did see, that cop is at least a terrible communicator.


Don't forget that the guy was only driving on the wrong side because the Cop was blocking the guys direction to begin with.
 
2013-01-19 09:49:42 AM

ilambiquated: This cop should go to jail. "I'm going to write you a ticket for unsafe speed because you're talking back to me" is criminal abuse of power.

People should be much more pissed off about this kind of thing. Americans are sheep.


On the other hand, some bicyclist killed a 75 year old lady on a bike path not too far from Casa MFAWG last year because he was going way too fast.

So there's that.
 
2013-01-19 09:53:48 AM

MFAWG: some bicyclist killed a 75 year old lady on a bike path not too far from Casa MFAWG last year because he was going way too fast.


If it's the story I'm thinking of, it was because she stepped left without looking while he was passing her.  That's her fault in my book.
 
2013-01-19 09:54:55 AM
The video is painful, two hard-ons butting heads, once again, I'm failing to find a supportable side.
 
2013-01-19 09:56:27 AM

Beerguy: serial_crusher: CalvinMorallis: Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?

Officer: "the reason I'm giving you a ticket for unsafe speed is because you're arguing with me"
So, which law did he break?  was he speeding, because in that case shouldn't that have been the reason he was given the ticket?
Keep in mind this was after the cop already accused him of riding on the wrong side of the road, but for some reason decided not to make that what he was ticketing him about.

I'm the first to call out videos that don't show the whole story, but from the part we did see, that cop is at least a terrible communicator.

Don't forget that the guy was only driving on the wrong side because the Cop was blocking the guys direction to begin with.


Whenever a cop blocks the highway, I just jump on the opposite lane of traffic.
 
2013-01-19 09:57:53 AM
This is the sort of jack-booted thuggery I can get behind.
 
2013-01-19 09:59:46 AM

Deathfrogg: Cops who do this sort of thing are not really interested in fighting crime. They're interested in the power the badge gives them. They're basically lazy and go for the low hanging fruit. Such individuals are often lackadaisical with other aspects of the job and this can easily be seen by superiors who are conscious of their subordinates behavior and trained to observe their working habits outside of just keeping the positions filled and their own positions protected from scrutiny, especially when their own position is dependent on a conscientious application of the rules and responsibilities of the job.

These people need to be weeded out early in their careers, they are unsuitable for for the work.

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptable. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse Dune


"I can quote people too."
- Mark Twain
 
2013-01-19 10:01:41 AM

serial_crusher: MFAWG: some bicyclist killed a 75 year old lady on a bike path not too far from Casa MFAWG last year because he was going way too fast.

If it's the story I'm thinking of, it was because she stepped left without looking while he was passing her.  That's her fault in my book.


Oh, look. Blame the victim douchebaggery. How unexpected.
 
2013-01-19 10:04:22 AM

Tymast: CruiserTwelve: Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.

I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.

That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.

hey, do you cops have to wear weights to go swimming? must be hard when you walk on water all the time


Read my post again, especially the part that says this:

"the cop was wrong in doing that"

Then tell me more about the "walk on water" thing.
 
2013-01-19 10:05:27 AM

RectalFury: Beerguy: serial_crusher: CalvinMorallis: Actually,. the way I read it, the biker DID, in fact, break the law, and the cop explained to him that, more or less, he probably wouldn't have been cited for it--for the law that he did break--if he hadn't been a dick. So, kind of like every traffic cop interaction ever, huh?

Officer: "the reason I'm giving you a ticket for unsafe speed is because you're arguing with me"
So, which law did he break?  was he speeding, because in that case shouldn't that have been the reason he was given the ticket?
Keep in mind this was after the cop already accused him of riding on the wrong side of the road, but for some reason decided not to make that what he was ticketing him about.

I'm the first to call out videos that don't show the whole story, but from the part we did see, that cop is at least a terrible communicator.

Don't forget that the guy was only driving on the wrong side because the Cop was blocking the guys direction to begin with.

Whenever a cop blocks the highway, I just jump on the opposite lane of traffic.


You are right, the guy should have just turned around and went back the other way. I am sure he didn't need to get back to his car or anything. Better yet, he should have just picked up the bike and walked onto the sand to get around the cop. Although, then he might have been cited for not using the bike path, so, I am not sure.
 
2013-01-19 10:05:45 AM

MFAWG: serial_crusher: MFAWG: some bicyclist killed a 75 year old lady on a bike path not too far from Casa MFAWG last year because he was going way too fast.

If it's the story I'm thinking of, it was because she stepped left without looking while he was passing her.  That's her fault in my book.

Oh, look. Blame the victim douchebaggery. How unexpected.


Did it ever go to court or anything?  Curious to see how it turned out.
 
2013-01-19 10:10:04 AM

CruiserTwelve: Deathfrogg: Felony arrests get them the promotions. Traffic citations do not.

I suggest you research the promotional system in the LAPD.

That being said, I'm sure the cop was assigned to patrol the bike path because of complaints and he was just trying to do what he was assigned to do. He stopped a violator and got an argument so he wrote an attitude ticket. I don't agree with attitude tickets so the cop was wrong in doing that, but I doubt this was as big a deal as it appears to be.


It would seem that individuals who receive such assignments are often the people that the superiors want to keep out of the way for a period. The Seattle Detective I know has said this in so many words. The assholes and dumbasses get the shiat assignments and are kept out of the way of doing real police work and often don't get promoted. Of course, this probably only reinforces their behavior by frustrating their own sense of superhero/crimefighter status, but it is their own attitude that gets them into the situation.

A well-run police department bureaucracy understands that a certain percentage of jerks, bullies, liars and sociopaths will get through the training and culling process. The departments that are having discipline issues or a lot of brutality complaints are the ones that have forsaken the culling process in favor of merely keeping the positions filled. Probably because the job is crap and doesn't pay enough.

It's hard to maintain a good attitude when the outside observers nitpick every aspect of ones work. The departments that have the most problems have consciously made the decision to ignore the problems and complaints and go out of their way to protect the jerks instead of getting them off the force. This only serves to reinforce the critics' position.

Police Departments need to do a much better job of weeding out the assholes. It must be much easier to fire a cop for wrongdoing or lazy behavior. Any act of perjury or unnecessary brutality should be grounds for termination, even in a long term career officer. You shouldn't be able to fire someone just for being a dickhead occasionally, but you should for a continuing pattern of dickish or brutish behavior, both on and off the job. We don't need thugs or bullies on the job. We don't need daily drinkers or neighborhood tough guys doing the work. And we sure as shiat don't need sociopaths running around with a firearm and the power of the State behind them to protect them from scrutiny.
 
2013-01-19 10:15:12 AM

JosephFinn: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, other people are breaking the law too, so you shouldn't ticket me! Waaaaaaaaaaaah, there are more serious crimes!

The dipshiat deserved his ticket for going out of his way to be a dick.


It's only 7:00AM (in my time zone), yet I bet you've broken at least a dozen laws so far today. Are you ready to get tickets for every law you've broken today, arsewipe?

Laws are mostly created for an excuse to extract money from people, little else.
 
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