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(Record Setter)   The 7th-degree black belt who can take a gun away from you faster than you can blink is shooting for a Guinness world record   (recordsetter.com) divider line 21
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2013-01-19 03:37:24 AM
14 votes:
The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.
2013-01-19 05:10:10 AM
3 votes:

DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.


This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.
2013-01-19 11:14:11 AM
2 votes:
Remo Williams and Master Chiun laugh at his efforts.
2013-01-19 08:47:48 AM
2 votes:
If he's a black belt, why's he need my gun?
2013-01-19 07:20:49 AM
2 votes:

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


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2013-01-19 12:57:31 PM
1 votes:
Quick counter, use both hands...

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/NB: GISing for "Weaver Stance" produces WAY too many Isosceles pics...
2013-01-19 12:38:21 PM
1 votes:

leevis: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.

One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.


Pretty much how most "real" fights go, minus eye gouging, fish hooking and biting..
Take an olympic level freestyle wrestler versus an olympic level tae kwan doe competitor in an all out, no rules brawl, the wrestler is going to whip his ass 9 times out of 10
It's a lot harder to knock someone out cold then the movies make it, the human hand makes a much better grasping instrument than it does a bludgeon.
2013-01-19 12:36:23 PM
1 votes:
He is attempting to set a record, not trying to save his life. Much like a high jumper is going for the highest jump, he is attempting the fastest disarm. Nobody is shooting at him, he is just displaying the quickest disarm for the record.  Folks here are saying "well if the shooter was X feet away, that'd NEVER work!" While being true, that is not the point here.

....just saying
2013-01-19 11:44:47 AM
1 votes:
Here's a secret: Guns have a range advantage over an unarmed man, even a 7th Degree Black-belt.
2013-01-19 11:42:23 AM
1 votes:

Would have been a lot cooler if the guy didn't have to set himself before trying to get the gun, the perp wasn't just holding the gun out there like he wanted to be disarmed, and that he wasn't farking smiling like an idiot to begin with.


On the other hand, my favorite martial arts video: Pimp vs. Karate Instructor.

2013-01-19 11:37:28 AM
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.


Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.
2013-01-19 11:10:49 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Znuh: This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.

are you talking to Drew?


No, just the whole hot mess of wharrgarbl out there. Confident people don't feel the need to talk about their weapon in public, all the time.
2013-01-19 11:06:56 AM
1 votes:
This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.
2013-01-19 10:58:22 AM
1 votes:
historywarsweapons.com

Challenge Accepted
2013-01-19 10:33:09 AM
1 votes:
FACT: Guns, and only guns, make us safe.

/Guns!
2013-01-19 10:05:58 AM
1 votes:
This is a useless skill because you can launch a hydrogen weapon on a missile from another continent and he can't disarm that.
2013-01-19 09:47:50 AM
1 votes:
Gun disarms like this are fairly specific. Many knife disarms are defeated with a grip change--which is why when I trained with a blade, we started with the knife gripped with the blade held down to protect the wrist. The more common knife disarms run the risk of getting a nasty cut when you go for the lock, but that can be worked around with a strike across the top of the hand, which is similar to another set of techniques to break up a punch and strain or break the wrist. Gun disarms are terribly specific, because it is a terribly specific set of circumstances that has you close enough to even think about attempting them. The few that our security teams trained with usually wind up with broken fingers or a reverse that winds up discharging the weapon into the bastiche. We trained to end threats to our patrons though, not to preserve the lives of those who went after us and our patrons. Never had to do a gun disarm like this, and I pray I never do. They're not easy. They are very specific. We did have to disarm an off duty cop once, but that was keeping his hand and arm away from a holstered weapon, and we did it as a team, and he apologized after when he realized that he'd forgotten he was carrying it, and all we had to do was socket his arm to keep him from getting near the sucker.

They are very specific. Because the conditions that lead up to their possibility are fairly specific. If the conditions aren't right, you don't attempt it. Period. In fairness, most police are trained to not even try to draw a weapon if a suspect is within 21 feet, because in the time it takes to draw, someone will be on top of you. You keep a distance with a firearm for a reason. Not everyone gets that training though, and if someone is within arm distance, you have a chance. You train for those chances. There is no magical bullet shedding technique, and if folks are at a distance, your best bet is avoidance. But if they're in arm distance, and they're stupid, you have a chance.
2013-01-19 09:32:42 AM
1 votes:
So, the answer to this is more guns right?
2013-01-19 08:54:34 AM
1 votes:

dr_blasto: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

I don't think doing that through a window of a car would net the same results.


"Okay, I'm not ready yet.  Hold the gun at shoulder height.  Let me position myself.  Okay, now I'm ready for you to threaten me."
2013-01-19 08:53:50 AM
1 votes:

Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.
2013-01-19 07:43:52 AM
1 votes:

Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


I don't think doing that through a window of a car would net the same results.
 
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