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2013-01-19 03:37:24 AM  
The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.
 
2013-01-19 04:39:54 AM  
Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.
 
2013-01-19 05:10:10 AM  

DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.


This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.
 
2013-01-19 07:20:49 AM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


spielbergfanclub.com
 
2013-01-19 07:43:52 AM  

Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


I don't think doing that through a window of a car would net the same results.
 
2013-01-19 08:34:27 AM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two on average, over 21 feet farther away.


/Just sayin'
//and no, I don't think this is a particularly useful skill, but it's still pretty neat
 
2013-01-19 08:47:48 AM  
If he's a black belt, why's he need my gun?
 
2013-01-19 08:53:50 AM  

Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.
 
2013-01-19 08:54:34 AM  

dr_blasto: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

I don't think doing that through a window of a car would net the same results.


"Okay, I'm not ready yet.  Hold the gun at shoulder height.  Let me position myself.  Okay, now I'm ready for you to threaten me."
 
2013-01-19 09:32:42 AM  
So, the answer to this is more guns right?
 
2013-01-19 09:35:24 AM  
You'd think that drinking all that beer would slow his reaction time.

And I prefer the much more tried-and-tested martial arts technique of disarming a gun-wielding attacked by throwing a spinning hook that sends the gun sailing from the assailant's hand. Another good option, if you are actually looking to take control of the weapon, is to do a jumping front snap kick that hits the bottom of the attacker's hand. This will cause the gun to go spinning up in the air over the attacker's head. You can then throw another snap kick to his stomach and follow that up (while he's doubled over with pain) with another kick to his head, which will knock him out of the way and possibly off his feet. Then you can leap forward (a roll will work here if you need to cover more ground) and catch then gun as it begins to fall. Remain in your defensive crouch with the weapon trained on your attacker until you are confident that the area is clear.
 
2013-01-19 09:46:51 AM  

LordOfThePings: vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

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Thread over......I will get the lights.....
 
2013-01-19 09:47:50 AM  
Gun disarms like this are fairly specific. Many knife disarms are defeated with a grip change--which is why when I trained with a blade, we started with the knife gripped with the blade held down to protect the wrist. The more common knife disarms run the risk of getting a nasty cut when you go for the lock, but that can be worked around with a strike across the top of the hand, which is similar to another set of techniques to break up a punch and strain or break the wrist. Gun disarms are terribly specific, because it is a terribly specific set of circumstances that has you close enough to even think about attempting them. The few that our security teams trained with usually wind up with broken fingers or a reverse that winds up discharging the weapon into the bastiche. We trained to end threats to our patrons though, not to preserve the lives of those who went after us and our patrons. Never had to do a gun disarm like this, and I pray I never do. They're not easy. They are very specific. We did have to disarm an off duty cop once, but that was keeping his hand and arm away from a holstered weapon, and we did it as a team, and he apologized after when he realized that he'd forgotten he was carrying it, and all we had to do was socket his arm to keep him from getting near the sucker.

They are very specific. Because the conditions that lead up to their possibility are fairly specific. If the conditions aren't right, you don't attempt it. Period. In fairness, most police are trained to not even try to draw a weapon if a suspect is within 21 feet, because in the time it takes to draw, someone will be on top of you. You keep a distance with a firearm for a reason. Not everyone gets that training though, and if someone is within arm distance, you have a chance. You train for those chances. There is no magical bullet shedding technique, and if folks are at a distance, your best bet is avoidance. But if they're in arm distance, and they're stupid, you have a chance.
 
2013-01-19 09:58:23 AM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


Yes and no.

On one hand his disarm technique requires proximity. On the other hand the hours spent in the dojo to perfect something like that burn more calories than Hitler burnt Jews, so you can eat whatever and still be in shape. So while you get fat, he gets laid. The only gun he needs to worry about is his love gun.
 
2013-01-19 10:05:58 AM  
This is a useless skill because you can launch a hydrogen weapon on a missile from another continent and he can't disarm that.
 
2013-01-19 10:28:54 AM  

Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.



You know all of that shiat is done with compliant students right ?

He's yet another Rex Kwon Do fraud. "Now grab my wrist, no not like that"
 
2013-01-19 10:33:09 AM  
FACT: Guns, and only guns, make us safe.

/Guns!
 
2013-01-19 10:49:39 AM  

One Bad Apple: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


You know all of that shiat is done with compliant students right ?

He's yet another Rex Kwon Do fraud. "Now grab my wrist, no not like that"


The disarm stuff is funny. Rifle disarm
 
2013-01-19 10:54:25 AM  
Ooh, this guy shows you how to do super-ninja Beretta dis-assembly on your attacker!
 
2013-01-19 10:54:35 AM  
I just use the CMD, or Classic Mannix Disarm.
 
2013-01-19 10:56:00 AM  
That seems like a limited use disarm which is likely to cause the weapon fire at a dangerous height and angle if you mess up or the hammer is already cocked. But I'm just talking.
 
2013-01-19 10:56:47 AM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


Well in reality, the pros like about 5 feet of separation...
 
2013-01-19 10:56:51 AM  

One Bad Apple: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


You know all of that shiat is done with compliant students right ?

He's yet another Rex Kwon Do fraud. "Now grab my wrist, no not like that"


I have known folks like that. A good friend of mine has been studying this stuff since early childhood (now in his mid 30s) and is quite the accomplished martial artist. The funny thing about him is that he's a total doofus when you meet him, but he has ridiculously-fast reflexes and is actually ripped.

It's weird.
 
2013-01-19 10:57:30 AM  

I_C_Weener: If he's a black belt, why's he need my gun?


He's a gun-grabber?
 
2013-01-19 10:58:16 AM  

PunGent: I_C_Weener: If he's a black belt, why's he need my gun?

He's a gun-grabber?


I LOL'd
 
2013-01-19 10:58:22 AM  

historywarsweapons.com

Challenge Accepted

 
2013-01-19 10:59:14 AM  

Pocket Ninja: You'd think that drinking all that beer would slow his reaction time.

And I prefer the much more tried-and-tested martial arts technique of disarming a gun-wielding attacked by throwing a spinning hook that sends the gun sailing from the assailant's hand. Another good option, if you are actually looking to take control of the weapon, is to do a jumping front snap kick that hits the bottom of the attacker's hand. This will cause the gun to go spinning up in the air over the attacker's head. You can then throw another snap kick to his stomach and follow that up (while he's doubled over with pain) with another kick to his head, which will knock him out of the way and possibly off his feet. Then you can leap forward (a roll will work here if you need to cover more ground) and catch then gun as it begins to fall. Remain in your defensive crouch with the weapon trained on your attacker until you are confident that the area is clear.


A true ninja response!
 
2013-01-19 11:02:45 AM  

Giltric: [historywarsweapons.com image 297x350]

Challenge Accepted


Wow.
 
2013-01-19 11:03:09 AM  
We should just give teachers 7th degree black belts then
 
2013-01-19 11:03:35 AM  
Don't forget the 121ft rule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_6bmrqIsP8
 
2013-01-19 11:04:22 AM  
Call the NRA.  That bearded guy is depriving that hippie of his constitutional right to bear arms.
 
2013-01-19 11:06:56 AM  
This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.
 
2013-01-19 11:08:07 AM  

Znuh: This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.


are you talking to Drew?
 
2013-01-19 11:10:49 AM  

skullkrusher: Znuh: This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.

are you talking to Drew?


No, just the whole hot mess of wharrgarbl out there. Confident people don't feel the need to talk about their weapon in public, all the time.
 
2013-01-19 11:11:18 AM  

skullkrusher: Znuh: This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.

are you talking to Drew?


I think the Rex-kwon-do ninja threads are the best.
 
2013-01-19 11:12:20 AM  
Daniel-san, here is pin. There is grenade. Good ruck.
 
2013-01-19 11:14:11 AM  
Remo Williams and Master Chiun laugh at his efforts.
 
2013-01-19 11:24:20 AM  

Znuh: skullkrusher: Znuh: This whole gun thing's getting old and boring. Between the boner pill ads sandwiched next to the diarrhea commercials, it's starting to come across like you're very insecure and quite possibly, full of shiat.

are you talking to Drew?

No, just the whole hot mess of wharrgarbl out there. Confident people don't feel the need to talk about their weapon in public, all the time.


oh, gotcha. I don't get it either. Guns are fun, I guess - don't own any - but people do get a bit too excited about them (and about taking them away from others)
 
2013-01-19 11:27:14 AM  
I do this all the time, but with two or more guns
 
2013-01-19 11:31:57 AM  
Pull the hammer back and hold it, squeeze the trigger and point it at center mass. Disarming skill now nullified.
 
2013-01-19 11:33:26 AM  

Fark-N-Noodle: I do this all the time, but with two or more guns


I once disarmed a whole tribe of gun nuts. With my disarming good looks.
 
2013-01-19 11:34:31 AM  

I_C_Weener: Fark-N-Noodle: I do this all the time, but with two or more guns

I once disarmed a whole tribe of gun nuts. With my disarming good looks.


I juggle tribes of flaming gun nuts while they juggle flaming guns.
 
2013-01-19 11:36:12 AM  

skullkrusher: I_C_Weener: Fark-N-Noodle: I do this all the time, but with two or more guns

I once disarmed a whole tribe of gun nuts. With my disarming good looks.

I juggle tribes of flaming gun nuts while they juggle flaming guns.


Are those harder than corn nuts?
 
2013-01-19 11:36:53 AM  

dr_blasto: skullkrusher: I_C_Weener: Fark-N-Noodle: I do this all the time, but with two or more guns

I once disarmed a whole tribe of gun nuts. With my disarming good looks.

I juggle tribes of flaming gun nuts while they juggle flaming guns.

Are those harder than corn nuts?


no but they taste better
 
2013-01-19 11:37:28 AM  

I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.


Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.
 
2013-01-19 11:40:38 AM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

Lets see him try that with a snub nose .357 with hair-trigger. Or maybe have the guy holding the gun not be a grinning goofball that knows what's coming.
 
2013-01-19 11:42:23 AM  

Would have been a lot cooler if the guy didn't have to set himself before trying to get the gun, the perp wasn't just holding the gun out there like he wanted to be disarmed, and that he wasn't farking smiling like an idiot to begin with.


On the other hand, my favorite martial arts video: Pimp vs. Karate Instructor.

 
2013-01-19 11:42:29 AM  

Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.



Here's a kinda' long but thorough debunking of this particular clown and his goofy claims
 
2013-01-19 11:44:47 AM  
Here's a secret: Guns have a range advantage over an unarmed man, even a 7th Degree Black-belt.
 
2013-01-19 11:46:00 AM  
Still pretty cool to watch though.
 
2013-01-19 11:46:41 AM  
Better technique

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-19 11:48:40 AM  

MadCat221: Here's a secret: Guns have a range advantage over an unarmed man, even a 7th Degree Black-belt.


Only an idiot would stand that close to someone with a gun. If you don't keep your distance, you're screwed.
 
2013-01-19 11:50:24 AM  
 
2013-01-19 11:51:05 AM  
JUST DO THE GHOST DANCE!!!!! peaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww

ROADHOUSE!
 
2013-01-19 11:55:01 AM  

One Bad Apple: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.


Here's a kinda' long but thorough debunking of this particular clown and his goofy claims


Wow, this guy created a martial art?

upload.wikimedia.org

It looks like the originator of Keichi Do may have been a good martial artists in his own right, having his form of karate recognized, and winning some titles.  But it still seems pretty sketchy to me.  I learned karate under a 5th degree who is the same age as me.  He won't reach 7th degree until he's around 60 or 65.  Saying you are a certain degree black belt in anything is like saying you have a college degree.  Okay, Associates, junior college, what major, 4 years, or 5 years to get...how long ago...stuff like that becomes relevant.
 
2013-01-19 11:55:25 AM  

skinbubble: Relevant.


Classic.
 
2013-01-19 11:55:46 AM  

I_C_Weener: If he's a black belt, why's he need my gun?


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-01-19 11:56:05 AM  

I_C_Weener: One Bad Apple: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.


Here's a kinda' long but thorough debunking of this particular clown and his goofy claims

Wow, this guy created a martial art?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x310]

It looks like the originator of Keichi Do may have been a good martial artists in his own right, having his form of karate recognized, and winning some titles.  But it still seems pretty sketchy to me.  I learned karate under a 5th degree who is the same age as me.  He won't reach 7th degree until he's around 60 or 65.  Saying you are a certain degree black belt in anything is like saying you have a college degree.  Okay, Associates, junior college, what major, 4 years, or 5 years to get...how long ago...stuff like that becomes relevant.


That sheds some light on things.
 
2013-01-19 11:56:55 AM  
How do I disarm a snake in your boot?

/trick question: snakes don't have arms. Therefore, you die.
 
2013-01-19 11:58:42 AM  

One Bad Apple: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.


Here's a kinda' long but thorough debunking of this particular clown and his goofy claims


Interesting article. Someone obviously was curious enough to spend a lot of time researching Keichu-Do. About what I expected from someone claiming a gun disarm is useful enough to practice regularly.
 
2013-01-19 12:00:59 PM  

Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.
 
2013-01-19 12:02:07 PM  

leevis: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.

One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.


art.penny-arcade.com
/obligatory
 
2013-01-19 12:03:02 PM  
We should get him in the same room as this guy.

Link
 
2013-01-19 12:04:26 PM  

skinink: Would have been a lot cooler if the guy didn't have to set himself before trying to get the gun, the perp wasn't just holding the gun out there like he wanted to be disarmed, and that he wasn't farking smiling like an idiot to begin with.
On the other hand, my favorite martial arts video: Pimp vs. Karate Instructor.


This reminds me of this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vvI26NnwE

"Like a lot of beginning students, you attacked me wrong."  Start it at 1:34
 
2013-01-19 12:05:23 PM  
i162.photobucket.com
Break the wrist, walk away.
 
2013-01-19 12:06:53 PM  

pxlboy: That sheds some light on things.


Not sure what you mean.
 
2013-01-19 12:08:38 PM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


did you miss this?
 
2013-01-19 12:10:27 PM  

I_C_Weener: pxlboy: That sheds some light on things.

Not sure what you mean.


My earlier comment about a friend of mine who is about a year younger with a 7th Dan in a Korean style. Now, he's a competent martial artist, but your mention of reaching that level at such an advanced age along with other comments about black belt mills got me thinking.
 
2013-01-19 12:10:46 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

did you miss this?


I just saw that.  Holy shiat that is crazy stuff.
 
2013-01-19 12:10:51 PM  
Well, I think it was a cool video, even if no one else is impressed. Taking someones gun would be fun, especially if you made a clever comment while doing it. Maybe you could do a fight club reference: "The gun is in my hand..." Gunman gets confused, then you immediately take the gun. If the guy responds with "Hey, good for you, doesn't change a thing" then you let him go.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:36 PM  

Pocket Ninja: You'd think that drinking all that beer would slow his reaction time.

And I prefer the much more tried-and-tested martial arts technique of disarming a gun-wielding attacked by throwing a spinning hook that sends the gun sailing from the assailant's hand. Another good option, if you are actually looking to take control of the weapon, is to do a jumping front snap kick that hits the bottom of the attacker's hand. This will cause the gun to go spinning up in the air over the attacker's head. You can then throw another snap kick to his stomach and follow that up (while he's doubled over with pain) with another kick to his head, which will knock him out of the way and possibly off his feet. Then you can leap forward (a roll will work here if you need to cover more ground) and catch then gun as it begins to fall. Remain in your defensive crouch with the weapon trained on your attacker until you are confident that the area is clear.


I prefer letting my backup deal w/ threat from high ground.
But, that is just me. All that rolling and bouncing, mehh.
The best way to deal with an armed attacker is to not be there as quickly as possible.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:38 PM  

you are a puppet: Well, I think it was a cool video, even if no one else is impressed. Taking someones gun would be fun, especially if you made a clever comment while doing it. Maybe you could do a fight club reference: "The gun is in my hand..." Gunman gets confused, then you immediately take the gun. If the guy responds with "Hey, good for you, doesn't change a thing" then you let him go.


what if the other guy is also a 7th degree black belt? You'd be stuck there in a one gun Mexican standoff for eternity
 
2013-01-19 12:13:06 PM  

skinbubble: Relevant.


Beauty thanx!
 
2013-01-19 12:14:50 PM  

pxlboy: I_C_Weener: pxlboy: That sheds some light on things.

Not sure what you mean.

My earlier comment about a friend of mine who is about a year younger with a 7th Dan in a Korean style. Now, he's a competent martial artist, but your mention of reaching that level at such an advanced age along with other comments about black belt mills got me thinking.


Oh, yeah.  I was ready to test for 2d in Shorei Goju Ryu and lost interest.  It took me about 5 years to get there.  That style and that instructor is very slow in advancing people to black belt and beyond.  He loved to point out the difference in general between karate and Tae Kwon Do in that TKD tended to be a franchise business designed to advance people as fast as possible while karate styles tended to go much slower.  He claimed his mid-level belts were easily the equivalent of 1st and 2d degree TKD students.  I wouldn't know really.  TKD is fun to watch though.  I entered one tournament at age 37, won it, and was done with competition.  But there isn't much competition at that age.
 
2013-01-19 12:14:50 PM  

leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.


I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.
 
2013-01-19 12:17:55 PM  

pxlboy: /obligatory


So I'm not the only one. Thanks!
 
2013-01-19 12:18:01 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

did you miss this?


wow
 
2013-01-19 12:18:10 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-19 12:22:46 PM  
Oooh, looks like we got a bunch of badasses in here....
 
2013-01-19 12:23:23 PM  

One Bad Apple: leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.


Agreed, that's why I was always fascinated by Machida being successful with a background in Karate.
 
2013-01-19 12:23:48 PM  
My black belt holds up my pants. This dude wears pajamas. Some belts are just more useful.
 
SH
2013-01-19 12:25:28 PM  
That's the dumbest thing I ever saw.

/stand back 3 feet, brains on the floor. DUH
 
2013-01-19 12:26:04 PM  

pxlboy: leevis: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.

One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x468]
/obligatory


It says something about the fans of UFC in that they like watching men engage in something that has homoerotic overtures.
 
2013-01-19 12:28:21 PM  
Its always easy when you do it one at a time.

dl.dropbox.com
Lets see him set a real record.
 
SH
2013-01-19 12:29:19 PM  

Latinwolf: homoerotic overtures


Oooh, decent screen name?
 
2013-01-19 12:29:36 PM  
This is exactly why I always carry a gun that fires backwards when the magazine is removed.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:25 PM  

Latinwolf: pxlboy: leevis: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.

One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x468]
/obligatory

It says something about the fans of UFC in that they like watching men engage in something that has homoerotic overtures.


Wow, I have never heard that joke before. You should go tell all the gun owners in the gun gun control threads they have small dicks too.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:26 PM  
"The way you're practicing isn't the exact way it will always occur in real life." -What to say if you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-01-19 12:31:33 PM  

dr_blasto:

The disarm stuff is funny. Rifle disarm


I like the part where he actually aimed the muzzle into his own gut.
 
2013-01-19 12:36:23 PM  
He is attempting to set a record, not trying to save his life. Much like a high jumper is going for the highest jump, he is attempting the fastest disarm. Nobody is shooting at him, he is just displaying the quickest disarm for the record.  Folks here are saying "well if the shooter was X feet away, that'd NEVER work!" While being true, that is not the point here.

....just saying
 
2013-01-19 12:36:25 PM  
He's not faster than this guy.
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-19 12:36:28 PM  

Carth: One Bad Apple: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.


Here's a kinda' long but thorough debunking of this particular clown and his goofy claims

Interesting article. Someone obviously was curious enough to spend a lot of time researching Keichu-Do. About what I expected from someone claiming a gun disarm is useful enough to practice regularly.


You should see the efforts the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu community will go through when they think someone is a fake or McDojo black belt.

Part of making fun of these guys is because its easy. Still, some is because people want to keep their preferred art free of the crapfest TKD turned in to. Also, these "made up my own style" types are selling false security to their students.
 
2013-01-19 12:37:41 PM  

thoughtsausage: dr_blasto:

The disarm stuff is funny. Rifle disarm

I like the part where he actually aimed the muzzle into his own gut.


Also note: the magazine is a weapon into itself!
 
2013-01-19 12:38:21 PM  

leevis: Carth: I_C_Weener: Sensei Can You See: DrPainMD: Only a complete moran would stand that close. And, to see if the technique really works, let's put live ammo in the gun and see if he can grab the other guy's trigger hand without shooting himself in the face.

This just in -- a lot of carjackers and armed robbers are complete morans.

I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.

He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.

Or he created his own martial art and awarded himself a 7th degree...

After some googling it looks like he is a 7th degree blackbelt in Keichu-do, which was created by Karl W. Marx.

One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.


Pretty much how most "real" fights go, minus eye gouging, fish hooking and biting..
Take an olympic level freestyle wrestler versus an olympic level tae kwan doe competitor in an all out, no rules brawl, the wrestler is going to whip his ass 9 times out of 10
It's a lot harder to knock someone out cold then the movies make it, the human hand makes a much better grasping instrument than it does a bludgeon.
 
2013-01-19 12:39:42 PM  
Just chiming in on the whole TKD belt mills thing. My father-in-law is disgusted by them and through my wife and him I've learned that there are actually two sets of TKD schools in the States. The ATA-style of "Pay us a year's membership and earn your blackbelt!" and his school's take on it, "Earn your first degree when you earn your first degree, now practice again."

He's a 70 year old Korean Grand Master, I'm under 30 and I fear for my life when I get within striking distance.

Sun Yi's: www.sunyis.com

/Fark didn't like the link.
 
2013-01-19 12:41:52 PM  
Meh. As he's grabbing my gun, I would have reached for my knife with my other hand and stabbed him in the neck. And...as I'm doing this, I'd be simultaneously raising my right leg and aiming to kick him in his balls as hard as I've ever kicked a man in his balls before. And....as I'm doing all this, I will be retching to achieve a spitball of the most choicest consistency that will be launched into his eyes (yeah, both of them) with such immense force, it would blind him permanently.

Basically, I win. I know it works as I've done it before. And I'd do it again.
 
2013-01-19 12:44:44 PM  

blottoman: Better technique

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x458]


20 years later
 
2013-01-19 12:46:42 PM  

GungFu: Meh. As he's grabbing my gun, I would have reached for my knife with my other hand and stabbed him in the neck. And...as I'm doing this, I'd be simultaneously raising my right leg and aiming to kick him in his balls as hard as I've ever kicked a man in his balls before. And....as I'm doing all this, I will be retching to achieve a spitball of the most choicest consistency that will be launched into his eyes (yeah, both of them) with such immense force, it would blind him permanently.

Basically, I win. I know it works as I've done it before. And I'd do it again.


I would just keep the other hand on the trigger for suicide vest.
 
2013-01-19 12:46:48 PM  

Latinwolf: It says something about the fans of UFC in that they like watching men engage in something that has homoerotic overtures


I think it says something about you when the first thing that comes to mind when two men are fighting in as close as you can legally get to a street fight is "Gay".
 
2013-01-19 12:47:19 PM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


This. When I took karate in high school, our instructor showed us this technique. One of the other students asked "What if the guy with the gun is across the street from you?"

"Duck behind a car."

Heh. That's fast, no doubt, but yeah - two feet, a driver's side window, moving shooter ... any variable changes in that equation, and the technique is nice in theory.
 
2013-01-19 12:48:44 PM  

Latinwolf:

It says something about the fans of UFC in that they like watching men engage in something that has homoerotic overtures.


All that eye contact turns you on doesn't sweetheart ?
 
2013-01-19 12:49:57 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

This. When I took karate in high school, our instructor showed us this technique. One of the other students asked "What if the guy with the gun is across the street from you?"

"Duck behind a car."

Heh. That's fast, no doubt, but yeah - two feet, a driver's side window, moving shooter ... any variable changes in that equation, and the technique is nice in theory.


That was the instruction we had.  If you can leave, leave.  If you can't, and he has fists, pick up a stick, etc...   but if all else fails, then here is an option (hit him where it hurts, then leave)...
 
2013-01-19 12:57:16 PM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


Bahahhahahah My thoughts exactly!!

I'm a 23 degree magenta belt in 16 different martial arts styles and I can kill you with my little.. BANG! BANG!.

Oops.
 
2013-01-19 12:57:31 PM  
Quick counter, use both hands...

womenofcaliber.files.wordpress.com

/NB: GISing for "Weaver Stance" produces WAY too many Isosceles pics...
 
2013-01-19 01:01:45 PM  
JCPenney, $3.98
 
2013-01-19 01:13:52 PM  

I_C_Weener: He's a little young to be a 7th degree in karate.  Must be that belt factory sport, Tae Kwon Do.


So, according to you, he has to look like Mr. Miyagi or Lo Pan before he can achieve such a high skill level?
 
2013-01-19 01:20:21 PM  

vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.


lulz, exactly what I was thinking
 
2013-01-19 01:21:03 PM  
Not bad but can get catch a bullet in his teeth?

/No Bruce Leroy
 
2013-01-19 01:28:44 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-19 01:29:29 PM  
I wanted to comment that the video was cool but I realize now that I'm not a good enough fighter to have an opinion.
 
2013-01-19 01:35:00 PM  
ishootthepictures.files.wordpress.com
www.imfdb.org
 
2013-01-19 02:00:40 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Pocket Ninja: You'd think that drinking all that beer would slow his reaction time.

And I prefer the much more tried-and-tested martial arts technique of disarming a gun-wielding attacked by throwing a spinning hook that sends the gun sailing from the assailant's hand. Another good option, if you are actually looking to take control of the weapon, is to do a jumping front snap kick that hits the bottom of the attacker's hand. This will cause the gun to go spinning up in the air over the attacker's head. You can then throw another snap kick to his stomach and follow that up (while he's doubled over with pain) with another kick to his head, which will knock him out of the way and possibly off his feet. Then you can leap forward (a roll will work here if you need to cover more ground) and catch then gun as it begins to fall. Remain in your defensive crouch with the weapon trained on your attacker until you are confident that the area is clear.

A true ninja response!


No, the ninja response was posted earlier. You just didn't see it.
 
2013-01-19 02:08:32 PM  
We need this guy to stand outside every school in America. Problem solved.
 
2013-01-19 02:14:43 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: vossiewulf: The guy spends a lifetime perfecting a technique which can be defeated by... standing two feet farther away.

This. When I took karate in high school, our instructor showed us this technique. One of the other students asked "What if the guy with the gun is across the street from you?"

"Duck behind a car."


Maybe that's exactly what he tells his students?

/can't a guy just make a movie clip of a neat technique without half the internet yelling how unrealistic it is?
 
2013-01-19 02:18:25 PM  
BTW, your name is Marx and you name your son Karl? Maybe his becoming a martial artist is a "boy called Sue" kind of thing.....
 
2013-01-19 02:18:47 PM  
Came for the arguments between ITGs who totally know how to do this (but better) and ITGs who totally would shoot you in the face before you could do this to them.

SO SATISFIED THAT I AM NOT LEAVING!
 
2013-01-19 02:19:20 PM  

Ilmarinen:


Maybe that's exactly what he tells his students?

/can't a guy just make a movie clip of a neat technique without half the internet yelling how unrealistic it is?


Scroll up to the link I posted. This guy is a prolific fraud and not just about his martial arts abilities.
 
2013-01-19 02:19:54 PM  
I would have like to see him demonstrate this technique on other stances such as a two hand grip, holding the gun at the hip and holding the gun gangsta stile.
 
2013-01-19 02:22:40 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Try it with this guy...
/hint: he usually just pops another gun out from his other sleeve
 
2013-01-19 02:47:23 PM  

Sensei Can You See:
I know Marx -- I've seen him do the drill with snap cap rounds in the gun and ask the bad guy to try to shoot him. Doesn't happen.


I know him too. I did the drill with him in Anaheim once. I got off all 6 shots and reloaded. Three of them would have been fatal, plus a headshot.
 
2013-01-19 02:59:16 PM  
I'm just sad to see that Dave Grohl turned to a life of crime after Nirvana broke up.
 
2013-01-19 03:10:14 PM  

Wulfman: Came for the arguments between ITGs who totally know how to do this (but better) and ITGs who totally would shoot you in the face before you could do this to them.

SO SATISFIED THAT I AM NOT LEAVING!



Don't blame me, I TRIED to derail this thread into a "chicks with guns" thread, but the ITG's just HAD to ruin it ;P
 
2013-01-19 03:10:47 PM  
Oh yay. It's choreographed martial LARPing. I never get tired of pasty egotists in pajamas lining their marks students up just so and doing stunts with them.

Once you remove resistance from your practice, the human body becomes an abstract shape to be manipulated in space and all kinds of whacky bullshiat looks like it might work.
 
2013-01-19 03:13:42 PM  
Ask Matt Lenix how that works, or the marital arts master who ran up to a taxi and got his brains blown out.
/well, don't bother asking Matt.
 
2013-01-19 03:31:50 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-19 03:41:20 PM  

g4lt: Wulfman: Came for the arguments between ITGs who totally know how to do this (but better) and ITGs who totally would shoot you in the face before you could do this to them.

SO SATISFIED THAT I AM NOT LEAVING!


Don't blame me, I TRIED to derail this thread into a "chicks with guns" thread, but the ITG's just HAD to ruin it ;P



For the record I do appreciate your effort.
 
2013-01-19 04:09:54 PM  
I may have missed a comment earlier, but, if he had the gun, why pop the clip? The gun is not even unloaded yet because there is one in the chamber, if that was his goal.
Nits are worth picking
/Probably not here though
 
2013-01-19 04:11:51 PM  
What happens when the guy holds the gun sideways? How's the dude's technique then?

I'll be impressed when someone puts their finger in the barrel and stops a bullet from leaving the gun.
 
2013-01-19 04:13:11 PM  

studs up: I may have missed a comment earlier, but, if he had the gun, why pop the clip? The gun is not even unloaded yet because there is one in the chamber, if that was his goal.
Nits are worth picking


It's a MAGAZINE not a clip.
 
2013-01-19 04:15:48 PM  
Do you want karate?
 
2013-01-19 04:20:16 PM  

One Bad Apple: studs up: I may have missed a comment earlier, but, if he had the gun, why pop the clip? The gun is not even unloaded yet because there is one in the chamber, if that was his goal.
Nits are worth picking


It's a MAGAZINE not a clip.


lol. too right
/figured boot would have learned me up on that
 
2013-01-19 04:37:19 PM  
Did anyone see the Mythbusters with the "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" myth?

I agree if the gun is drawn your screwed. But if you are in a stare down and one guy is packing and the other guy is a matial arts master ( or carrying a knife) then the advantage does to the unarmed guy in distances under 21 feet.
Basically while the guy with the gun is fumbling to get it in a position to shoot, the other guy has closed the distance and done some damage.
 
2013-01-19 04:44:33 PM  

Wulfman: g4lt: Wulfman: Came for the arguments between ITGs who totally know how to do this (but better) and ITGs who totally would shoot you in the face before you could do this to them.

SO SATISFIED THAT I AM NOT LEAVING!


Don't blame me, I TRIED to derail this thread into a "chicks with guns" thread, but the ITG's just HAD to ruin it ;P


For the record I do appreciate your effort.


Ill try and help...

i747.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-19 04:52:00 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: Wulfman: g4lt: Wulfman: Came for the arguments between ITGs who totally know how to do this (but better) and ITGs who totally would shoot you in the face before you could do this to them.

SO SATISFIED THAT I AM NOT LEAVING!


Don't blame me, I TRIED to derail this thread into a "chicks with guns" thread, but the ITG's just HAD to ruin it ;P


For the record I do appreciate your effort.

Ill try and help...

[i747.photobucket.com image 525x525]


What happened to the lines on that power pole?
/not a gay man
 
2013-01-19 05:01:34 PM  
I really like how the bad guy here is dressed like a real cool dude from '92. Or a dork from now. On another note, I used to frequent a bar in Knoxville, TN that was across the street from a kung fu dojo/gym/I don't know what they're called. It was shaped like a huge red barn, so obviously we all called it the Kung Fu Barn. And the guy who owned it or was the head teacher was named Leroy. This is the kinda guy who would be tiptoe jumping stump to stump while doing crazy sword practice in the middle of the day. So you had Kung Fu Leroy at the Kung Fu Barn in Tennessee and it was awesome. One of my good buddies (also a regular) was friends with Leroy (not a hillbilly) and the two of them would occasionally get loaded and spar. It's good fun watching a tiny little dude kick the shiat out someone 1.5x his weight and 5" taller.

/I know nothing about martial arts.
//Kung Fu Leroy's a badass
 
2013-01-19 05:05:38 PM  
Snatch the pebble from my hand grasshopper.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-19 05:09:18 PM  
Can't watch the vid on my cellphone.

Let me guess the guy with the gun is neither falling back to a defensive position nor even bladed off to use his support hand to aid with weapon retention?

/tired of goofy videos that have an inept gun user against a super expert martial artist/knife wielder/etc.
 
2013-01-19 05:12:59 PM  
I don't have sound so I must have missed something.
Does someone say "ready, set GO!" or does the dude just wait till he's ready and snatch the gun?

From that close, I was taught to start pulling trigger once the barrel breaks the plane of the belt buckle, and keep shooting until either the foe stops wiggling or I run out of bullets.
 
2013-01-19 05:26:23 PM  

Spirit Hammer: I don't have sound so I must have missed something.
Does someone say "ready, set GO!" or does the dude just wait till he's ready and snatch the gun?

From that close, I was taught to start pulling trigger once the barrel breaks the plane of the belt buckle, and keep shooting until either the foe stops wiggling or I run out of bullets.


The latter. I'd post bikini girls with guns for Wulfman, but I'm using the mobile version.
 
2013-01-19 05:41:58 PM  

One Bad Apple: He's yet another Rex Kwon Do fraud. "Now grab my wrist, no not like that"


Search YouTube for Victor Marx and get back to me.
 
2013-01-19 06:23:40 PM  

Sensei Can You See:

Search YouTube for Victor Marx and get back to me.


They're all a bunch of rehearsed and choreographed compliant demonstrations with the "attacker" just standing there and waiting for Marx to take their obviously poorly held weapon away from them. They are most likely students of his to boot.

It's a parlour trick. Nothing more.
 
2013-01-19 06:29:54 PM  
Ah - Karl W. Marx. Thought that butthead looked familiar. He's been running a line of bullshiat for decades now.
 
2013-01-19 06:32:23 PM  

One Bad Apple: Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.


And, this. I personally like watching folks use "techniques" learned in light-contact sparring or competition against a determined opponent.

I love the "point pause", personally.
 
2013-01-19 06:36:12 PM  

a61sun: He is attempting to set a record, not trying to save his life. Much like a high jumper is going for the highest jump, he is attempting the fastest disarm. Nobody is shooting at him, he is just displaying the quickest disarm for the record.  Folks here are saying "well if the shooter was X feet away, that'd NEVER work!" While being true, that is not the point here.

....just saying


The point is that the guy has been a blight on the martial arts community for years and years, but he thinks he's found a loophole on which he can hang a real credential (instead of all the fake ones he's claimed over the decades) by both establishing a standard "test" for the fastest disarm and then practicing just that move.

He's a dick. He makes Frank Dux look honest by comparison.
 
2013-01-19 06:55:53 PM  

Ebenator: He's not faster than this guy.
[img.photobucket.com image 480x204]


Well, raise my rent.....
 
2013-01-19 08:03:45 PM  

stinkyfishy: Did anyone see the Mythbusters with the "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" myth?

I agree if the gun is drawn your screwed. But if you are in a stare down and one guy is packing and the other guy is a matial arts master ( or carrying a knife) then the advantage does to the unarmed guy in distances under 21 feet.
Basically while the guy with the gun is fumbling to get it in a position to shoot, the other guy has closed the distance and done some damage.


Mythbusters should NOT be your source for this kind of thing fyi.
 
2013-01-19 08:14:32 PM  
disarm this...

i206.photobucket.com

bang bang finger bang bang
 
2013-01-19 08:17:21 PM  

Ilmarinen: /can't a guy just make a movie clip of a neat technique without half the internet yelling how unrealistic it is?


It is a neat technique, and he has crazy fast hands. I didn't mean to take that off him.
 
2013-01-19 08:21:21 PM  
up-ship.com
 
2013-01-19 08:35:59 PM  

One Bad Apple: Ilmarinen:


Maybe that's exactly what he tells his students?

/can't a guy just make a movie clip of a neat technique without half the internet yelling how unrealistic it is?

Scroll up to the link I posted. This guy is a prolific fraud and not just about his martial arts abilities.


For the record, your link is about the father of the guy in the video...
 
2013-01-19 09:30:42 PM  

Smackledorfer: stinkyfishy: Did anyone see the Mythbusters with the "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" myth?

I agree if the gun is drawn your screwed. But if you are in a stare down and one guy is packing and the other guy is a matial arts master ( or carrying a knife) then the advantage does to the unarmed guy in distances under 21 feet.
Basically while the guy with the gun is fumbling to get it in a position to shoot, the other guy has closed the distance and done some damage.

Mythbusters should NOT be your source for this kind of thing fyi.



Agreed. Be a skeptic - test it out yourself by bringing a knife to several gunfights and then gauging your ability to stab an opponent before they can draw a gun. I mean, the effective time and closing distance will be different for everyone, and Mythbusters doesn't account for that. Nor are they peer reviewed, but you can always have your own peers review your wounds when you do it yourself.
 
2013-01-19 09:56:38 PM  
Let's see Fartbongo grab a gun quicker than that
 
2013-01-20 12:02:24 AM  
I'm disappointed there aren't more Karl Marx jokes :(

/Kung Fu and guns are really besides the funny IMO.
//Bet the proletariat couldn't snatch a gun from the bourgeoisie that fast...or something something communism.
///Got nuthin :(
 
2013-01-20 12:30:47 AM  
WTF was this guy earlier today, so could have helped:
www.rawstory.com

-Sofa
 
2013-01-20 07:02:40 AM  

Smackledorfer: Can't watch the vid on my cellphone.

Let me guess the guy with the gun is neither falling back to a defensive position nor even bladed off to use his support hand to aid with weapon retention?

/tired of goofy videos that have an inept gun user against a super expert martial artist/knife wielder/etc.


The dude with the gub points it at Victor's head, roughly six inches away. Victor stands there, adjusting his stance and concentrating,  for ~3.5 seconds. Victor then, lightning-quick, snatches the gun.
 
2013-01-20 10:04:55 AM  
One Bad Apple: leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.


I used to watch a lot of the early UFCs back when you had a lot of different types of martial artists, and yes the Kung Fu and Tae Kwan Do type folks with pretty but too slow to actually use spins kicks got their asses beat. About the only striking form that did very good back in the day before standardized MMA was Muy Thai kick boxing, other than that it was the grappling forms like Brazilian Jiu Jitzu and Judo and Wrestling (like olympic not WWE) that walked the dog.
 
2013-01-20 03:11:29 PM  

Oldiron_79: One Bad Apple: leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.

I used to watch a lot of the early UFCs back when you had a lot of different types of martial artists, and yes the Kung Fu and Tae Kwan Do type folks with pretty but too slow to actually use spins kicks got their asses beat. About the only striking form that did very good back in the day before standardized MMA was Muy Thai kick boxing, other than that it was the grappling forms like Brazilian Jiu Jitzu and Judo and Wrestling (like olympic not WWE) that walked the dog.


In kung fus defense wasn't it designed as a defense against armed bandits and incorporated weapons?

I'm no martial arts study but I've always felt it shouldn't be lumped in with american karate.
 
2013-01-20 03:13:47 PM  

Oldiron_79: One Bad Apple: leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.

I used to watch a lot of the early UFCs back when you had a lot of different types of martial artists, and yes the Kung Fu and Tae Kwan Do type folks with pretty but too slow to actually use spins kicks got their asses beat. About the only striking form that did very good back in the day before standardized MMA was Muy Thai kick boxing, other than that it was the grappling forms like Brazilian Jiu Jitzu and Judo and Wrestling (like olympic not WWE) that walked the dog.


The winning martial art form is Junk Yard Dog.
 
2013-01-20 03:17:19 PM  

Smackledorfer: Oldiron_79: One Bad Apple: leevis:


One of the reasons I stopped watching UFC a long time ago was that during the pre-match interviews a lot of the guys would brag about how they had invented their own kind of martial art. Then the match would start and after a couple punches it was just two guys hugging each other on the floor.

I have been a big fan of MMA ever since the early 90's. I sorely miss the days where some phony McDojo scammer would drink enough of his own kool aid and start to believe his own laughably superhuman and even supernatural claims of fighting ability. They'd step into the cage and within 10 seconds of for reals fighting all those pretty spinning kicks and flowery looking stances and katas would be abandoned faster than a prom night dumpster baby and it looked like EVERY fight you ever saw since 3rd grade recess.

Too many people think the martial arts they see in the movies actually work like that.

I used to watch a lot of the early UFCs back when you had a lot of different types of martial artists, and yes the Kung Fu and Tae Kwan Do type folks with pretty but too slow to actually use spins kicks got their asses beat. About the only striking form that did very good back in the day before standardized MMA was Muy Thai kick boxing, other than that it was the grappling forms like Brazilian Jiu Jitzu and Judo and Wrestling (like olympic not WWE) that walked the dog.

In kung fus defense wasn't it designed as a defense against armed bandits and incorporated weapons?

I'm no martial arts study but I've always felt it shouldn't be lumped in with american karate.


Funny thing, your arts go back to when the Governing Diety siezed all the swords and made possession a capital offence.
Garden tools repurposed and practiced defence became a way of life.
Glad that could never happen here.
I mean, my sword is my friend and I am glad I am empowered with mine own defence.
 
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