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2013-01-19 04:03:58 AM
5 votes:
Ya know, this was one of the first me-cop interactions as a pseudo-adult I ever had. At 16, pulled over and ticketed for trying to get out of the way of a drunk cop in an unmarked that was yawing back and forth, clipping the curbs on both sides.

And when I say drunk, this guy couldn't walk without holding on the car drunk. Slip sliding drunk. Eyes not following head motions without a lag drunk. Knees occasionally buckling a little drunk.

So, of course, I did my duty, went to the cop station (this was before cell phones) and said, "Officer Whassname is drunk off his ass, driving around in that puke green Dodge unmarked, bumping into stationary objects" At which point the desk sergeant looked at me, motioned for a few of his confederates, grabbed me, marched me out of sight of the rest of the paying customers, slammed me into the wall and said "Old whassname's got a problem with that. And one more complaint and he loses his job. He's my friend, so instead of letting you file that complaint, I'm going to make up something, arrest you for it, and chuck you in a cell with a guy that would just love to make your acquaintance" and then he popped me one, then offered to let me get up and leave or try filing a complaint on either him or Whassname.

That sort of set my expectation of cops. I consider it to have been a valuable educational experience, and I keep it in mind whenever dealing with them.
2013-01-19 03:21:45 AM
4 votes:
In the USA this is a great way to get shot.
2013-01-19 03:22:08 AM
3 votes:
I know this happened outside the USA because the headline doesn't read:

"handcuffed motorist shoots self in back of head, police say they are as confused as everyone else and were nowhere near him and they didn't even see anything happen and the patrol car recording device seems to have a 5 minute black-out right when it tragically happened"

/actually, that probably breaks the character limit
2013-01-19 06:12:36 AM
2 votes:
HotWingAgenda
There's a reason why you only hear these stories on Fark. The US has a very low level of corruption, too.


I'll play. Police corruption is a specific index. United States is 19th in the world. Better then average, but scores poor compared to Europe.
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Click on this for stories that can't develop enough rage for the Fark because they are so typical.
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I would like see such an index for law enforcement and can begin how to mash those numbers together when comparing the functions of police in other countries with other social rules.
2013-01-20 06:40:43 AM
1 votes:

HideAndGoFarkYourself: You were 16, did you go home and tell mom and dad how you got the fat lip/black eye, etc?? Did you happen to telephone the county sheriff's office to file a report, or the state police?

I buy a lot, but i'm not buying your story. Some of it may be factual, like being pulled over by a drunk cop and being given a ticket, but there's no way your story went down as written. None.


You should understand we're not talking last year. This was 1978 in the rural South, about half my relatives are LEOs of some ilk, and I was a mid-teen who innately trusted cops. You didn't hear about all the crap going on like you do today. YOUR expectations are different than mine were. We were brought up on Officer Friendly. My dad did make a repeated point that you couldn't trust cops the way you could MPs, but at 16, it was pretty much all the same to me. You had a problem, you went to a cop and they fixed it. Maybe that seems stupid to you now, but we didn't have cell phones, nor recording devices, nor did the mass media present cops in a bad light, ever. So my level of expectation was that they were knights sans peur et sans reproche.

So I went up there thinking, hey, they should know this, they'll get the guy off the street. Instead, what I got was a series of body shots to my basic assumptions - one, the guy acted like it was MY fault, and attacked me. And not only him, but a group of them. And they weren't concerned that it was true or not, they knew the guy patrolled drunk, but they were going to not only ignore it, they were going to ruin my life to keep him doing it. The fact that making up some crap and tossing me in a cell was a thing they'd even consider had never crossed my mind.

I wasn't mad, I was farking crushed. I not only didn't report it, I didn't tell anyone for years. These days, I don't expect anything good to come of any interaction with a cop, and my reaction would be different. But back then, it was like finding Santa raping your 5 year old sister. I couldn't have been more taken off guard.
2013-01-19 10:32:17 PM
1 votes:

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Pert: erewhon: Ya know, this was one of the first me-cop interactions as a pseudo-adult I ever had. At 16, pulled over and ticketed for trying to get out of the way of a drunk cop in an unmarked that was yawing back and forth, clipping the curbs on both sides.

And when I say drunk, this guy couldn't walk without holding on the car drunk. Slip sliding drunk. Eyes not following head motions without a lag drunk. Knees occasionally buckling a little drunk.

So, of course, I did my duty, went to the cop station (this was before cell phones) and said, "Officer Whassname is drunk off his ass, driving around in that puke green Dodge unmarked, bumping into stationary objects" At which point the desk sergeant looked at me, motioned for a few of his confederates, grabbed me, marched me out of sight of the rest of the paying customers, slammed me into the wall and said "Old whassname's got a problem with that. And one more complaint and he loses his job. He's my friend, so instead of letting you file that complaint, I'm going to make up something, arrest you for it, and chuck you in a cell with a guy that would just love to make your acquaintance" and then he popped me one, then offered to let me get up and leave or try filing a complaint on either him or Whassname.

That sort of set my expectation of cops. I consider it to have been a valuable educational experience, and I keep it in mind whenever dealing with them.

I see these stories on Fark all the time and am always amazed that people in the US don't do something about corruption and incompetence in the police. In the UK there is a very low level of police corruption and an Independent Police Complaints Commission to deal with complaints and who investigate every incident where the involvement of the police has led to death or serious injury, or where a weapon has been discharged.

You were 16, did you go home and tell mom and dad how you got the fat lip/black eye, etc??  Did you happen to telephone the county sheriff's office to file a report, or the state police?

I buy a lot, but i'm not buying your story.  Some of it may be factual, like being pulled over by a drunk cop and being given a ticket, but there's no way your story went down as written.  None.


Sorry, but this one's literal. And it was to the gut. And no I wasn't going to tell my Dad either. There wasn't any good path through that one.
2013-01-19 05:26:10 PM
1 votes:

Pert: erewhon: Ya know, this was one of the first me-cop interactions as a pseudo-adult I ever had. At 16, pulled over and ticketed for trying to get out of the way of a drunk cop in an unmarked that was yawing back and forth, clipping the curbs on both sides.

And when I say drunk, this guy couldn't walk without holding on the car drunk. Slip sliding drunk. Eyes not following head motions without a lag drunk. Knees occasionally buckling a little drunk.

So, of course, I did my duty, went to the cop station (this was before cell phones) and said, "Officer Whassname is drunk off his ass, driving around in that puke green Dodge unmarked, bumping into stationary objects" At which point the desk sergeant looked at me, motioned for a few of his confederates, grabbed me, marched me out of sight of the rest of the paying customers, slammed me into the wall and said "Old whassname's got a problem with that. And one more complaint and he loses his job. He's my friend, so instead of letting you file that complaint, I'm going to make up something, arrest you for it, and chuck you in a cell with a guy that would just love to make your acquaintance" and then he popped me one, then offered to let me get up and leave or try filing a complaint on either him or Whassname.

That sort of set my expectation of cops. I consider it to have been a valuable educational experience, and I keep it in mind whenever dealing with them.

I see these stories on Fark all the time and am always amazed that people in the US don't do something about corruption and incompetence in the police. In the UK there is a very low level of police corruption and an Independent Police Complaints Commission to deal with complaints and who investigate every incident where the involvement of the police has led to death or serious injury, or where a weapon has been discharged.


The Birmingham Six would like a word. There's been plenty of other more recent cases, but that one came to mind first.

For the record, any time I travel in the States, I react like I'm in a police state, particularly with TSA morons, county cops and DEA types. Then I laugh uproariously when Fox talks about "freedom" and "liberty". Americans have sacrificed that for the illusion of security, and aren't even aware of it.

Yeah, I would prefer to be trollin' here, but it's a huge blind spot I can see from my country.
2013-01-19 01:54:16 PM
1 votes:

generallyso: Pert: I see these stories on Fark all the time and am always amazed that people in the US don't do something about corruption and incompetence in the police.

What sort of action would you suggest?


Make it a political issue, allow anonymous reporting of incidents, set up a task force or body with nationwide jurisdiction and a mandate to tackle it, pass legislation that protects whistleblowers...

You know, something rather than nothing.

If it is actually a problem...
2013-01-19 05:34:34 AM
1 votes:

Pert: erewhon: Ya know, this was one of the first me-cop interactions as a pseudo-adult I ever had. At 16, pulled over and ticketed for trying to get out of the way of a drunk cop in an unmarked that was yawing back and forth, clipping the curbs on both sides.

And when I say drunk, this guy couldn't walk without holding on the car drunk. Slip sliding drunk. Eyes not following head motions without a lag drunk. Knees occasionally buckling a little drunk.

So, of course, I did my duty, went to the cop station (this was before cell phones) and said, "Officer Whassname is drunk off his ass, driving around in that puke green Dodge unmarked, bumping into stationary objects" At which point the desk sergeant looked at me, motioned for a few of his confederates, grabbed me, marched me out of sight of the rest of the paying customers, slammed me into the wall and said "Old whassname's got a problem with that. And one more complaint and he loses his job. He's my friend, so instead of letting you file that complaint, I'm going to make up something, arrest you for it, and chuck you in a cell with a guy that would just love to make your acquaintance" and then he popped me one, then offered to let me get up and leave or try filing a complaint on either him or Whassname.

That sort of set my expectation of cops. I consider it to have been a valuable educational experience, and I keep it in mind whenever dealing with them.

I see these stories on Fark all the time and am always amazed that people in the US don't do something about corruption and incompetence in the police. In the UK there is a very low level of police corruption and an Independent Police Complaints Commission to deal with complaints and who investigate every incident where the involvement of the police has led to death or serious injury, or where a weapon has been discharged.


You were 16, did you go home and tell mom and dad how you got the fat lip/black eye, etc??  Did you happen to telephone the county sheriff's office to file a report, or the state police?

I buy a lot, but i'm not buying your story.  Some of it may be factual, like being pulled over by a drunk cop and being given a ticket, but there's no way your story went down as written.  None.
2013-01-19 04:20:13 AM
1 votes:

erewhon: Ya know, this was one of the first me-cop interactions as a pseudo-adult I ever had. At 16, pulled over and ticketed for trying to get out of the way of a drunk cop in an unmarked that was yawing back and forth, clipping the curbs on both sides.

And when I say drunk, this guy couldn't walk without holding on the car drunk. Slip sliding drunk. Eyes not following head motions without a lag drunk. Knees occasionally buckling a little drunk.

So, of course, I did my duty, went to the cop station (this was before cell phones) and said, "Officer Whassname is drunk off his ass, driving around in that puke green Dodge unmarked, bumping into stationary objects" At which point the desk sergeant looked at me, motioned for a few of his confederates, grabbed me, marched me out of sight of the rest of the paying customers, slammed me into the wall and said "Old whassname's got a problem with that. And one more complaint and he loses his job. He's my friend, so instead of letting you file that complaint, I'm going to make up something, arrest you for it, and chuck you in a cell with a guy that would just love to make your acquaintance" and then he popped me one, then offered to let me get up and leave or try filing a complaint on either him or Whassname.

That sort of set my expectation of cops. I consider it to have been a valuable educational experience, and I keep it in mind whenever dealing with them.


I see these stories on Fark all the time and am always amazed that people in the US don't do something about corruption and incompetence in the police. In the UK there is a very low level of police corruption and an Independent Police Complaints Commission to deal with complaints and who investigate every incident where the involvement of the police has led to death or serious injury, or where a weapon has been discharged.
2013-01-19 03:31:27 AM
1 votes:
"Drink-driving" would be a man cruising around in a giant martini glass. The phrase those boer jabbos are looking for is drunk driving.
 
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