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2013-01-19 09:34:24 AM  
4 votes:

Brainsick: We do not speak of the Cheers 'finale'.


This, on the other hand, the greatest of sitcom finales...

"...you should wear more sweaters..."
2013-01-19 07:47:44 AM  
4 votes:
Article could have been great if it had included examples. Without them it sucks.
2013-01-18 07:53:52 PM  
4 votes:
It's on FOX?
2013-01-19 01:25:33 PM  
2 votes:
One of the best finales ever
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2013-01-19 10:29:14 AM  
2 votes:
It wasn't the greatest show ever, but The Shield had one of the most perfect endings ever.

/The Wire had a great wrap up as well.
2013-01-19 10:02:44 AM  
2 votes:
It's nice how this article doesn't explain any actual examples of what they're referring to, or they throw in occasional photos of random shows and assume that everyone is already familiar with them and knows exactly what they're talking about.

Seriously lazy writing there.
2013-01-19 08:44:34 AM  
2 votes:
Ted McGinley joins the cast?
2013-01-19 07:41:12 AM  
2 votes:

Frozboz: They're right about LOST. When Locke was killed... ugh. That show had potential, but that episode *felt* wrong.


Notice that Lost had nearly every one of those descriptions?
2013-01-19 07:04:39 AM  
2 votes:

Snapper Carr: Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character

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Bazinga


/My hate for that show burns brighter than a thousand suns because of him.


Nope...not even close for the most "fan favorite" obnoxious character. That goes to Steve Urkel on Family Matters.
2013-01-19 06:10:49 AM  
2 votes:
You mean all of them?

It's a very rare show indeed that wound up all the loose ends, ended on a high note, and made sure there could never be an awful, humiliating spin-off. Either the show just stops because it didn't get renewed--and there was no "series finale" (very common in the 60's and 70's); or there was a series finale and then the fans demanded to know "what happened next" so the network gave it to them and milked a season or two out of some horrible spin-off (After MASH and Joanie loves Chachi spring to mind); or the show was going to be canceled but the fans pulled a "Trekkie" on them and the network grudgingly gave them one more season--that was when we were getting those bizarre "it was all a dream!" and the terrorists-crashed-Alexis's-wedding seasons. We won't even talk about the X-Files "Let's end the series by having a movie" finales.

I can't think of more than a handful of shows in the last 50 years that got to have a good solid series finale that ended the show for good and all, tied up all the loose ends, and finished it off in such a way that there could not be a spin-off. "NYPD Blue" is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that wrapped everything and ended it, after some weirdity and fumbling.
2013-01-19 06:02:43 AM  
2 votes:
You've dragged it out for so long for ratings you've missed all opportunities for ending it with any impact? (House)
2013-01-19 06:02:21 AM  
2 votes:
Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character

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Bazinga


/My hate for that show burns brighter than a thousand suns because of him.
2013-01-19 08:21:20 PM  
1 votes:

nikku88: I just wish any writer who talks about the Moonlighting curse actually watched Moonlighting.


True. Having Dave and Maddy consummate their relationship did hurt the series but there were other factors like the triangle of hostility that existed between Bruce Willis, Cybill Shepherd, and showrunner Glenn Gordon Caron; production delays that resulted in a lot of reruns and only occasional new episodes; the fact that once he hit it big in Die Hard, Willis clearly no longer cared about the show and craziness surrounding it; and--the mortal blow--the 1988 Writers Guild strike which led to a ten-month gap between new episodes. When the show came back in December 1988, most the show's audience had moved on and it was cancelled a few months later.
2013-01-19 06:15:58 PM  
1 votes:
I'm still angry about Lost. fark YOU DAMON LINDELOF AND CARLTON CUSE!!
2013-01-19 04:25:04 PM  
1 votes:

LonMead: Like every season of Blackadder.


orange storm: One of the best finales ever
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Add another vote for Blackadder - each season has a fine finale, and the series finale is utterly fantastic. One of the greatest TV series ever, IMO.

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2013-01-19 03:50:08 PM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: FirstNationalBastard: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisko just up and went Prophet.


Just another story about a black man abandoning his wife and children.

/Actually, Avery Brooks biatched about Sisko going Prophet because he felt it looked like what I just said. Of course, Avery Brooks is kind of nuts.

The original plan was for Sisko to sacrifice himself and die fighting. Turning prophet was a compromise since it indicated he might return.

No mention so far of TNG? That's how you wrap up a series. A surprisingly good finale for an almost completely episodic show.


It's kind if funny that Patrick Stewart is almost as old as Picard was supposed to be in the future scenes in that story, and he looks no where near as decrepit as the old age makeup made him look.
2013-01-19 03:47:16 PM  
1 votes:

Msol: I still have NO idea why Ben killed John. He mentions that woman's name... and somehow it suddenly makes sense to kill him. URG.


Ben killed John after he mentioned Eloise's name because that was the piece of information Ben needed. Once he was confident he could get back to the island without any further help from John, he took the opportunity to kill him. Makes sense, since he was jealous of him and his connection of the island for so long.
2013-01-19 02:37:27 PM  
1 votes:

texdent: Dawg47: You never meet the farking mother?

I bet the series finale it will be revealed that Ted kidnapped those kids and just as he is getting to that part, the police bust down the door and arrest him


Actually, they just blew their wad on tuesday. Spoiler alert, she was the base player at Barney and Robin's wedding, and the "perfect" woman he missed out on the blind date with in the first season when he decided to go for Robin.

No need to watch the show any further, unless they do something like have the mom (narrated by Rosanne Barr) tell the kids that after her "perfect" guy not showing up to the blind date, she turned into a raging slut and did half of NY.
2013-01-19 02:31:41 PM  
1 votes:

hbk72777: "Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character"

Dan from Night Court


Chang from Community: Awesome in the first season, increasingly unbearable and pointless on each successive season.

Hyjamon: Another one is Kat Dennings on Two Broke Girls. Her character is just too crass,negative for me to like her (granted I like other things about her) but that character just ruins it for me.


I'm pretty sure Kat is the least of 2 Broke Girls' problems.
2013-01-19 01:41:23 PM  
1 votes:

Dawg47: You never meet the farking mother?


I bet the series finale it will be revealed that Ted kidnapped those kids and just as he is getting to that part, the police bust down the door and arrest him
2013-01-19 12:56:10 PM  
1 votes:
Why is there a picture of Chuck in an article about bad finales? That show had an awesome finale, although a lot of the last two seasons was weak.
2013-01-19 12:12:20 PM  
1 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com

/that is all
2013-01-19 11:47:22 AM  
1 votes:

98K514: [www.exposay.com image 480x620]

This guy is in the cast.


The Life on Mars US hacks already had a perfectly good ending to go with, yet they decided to play the "Gene Hunt's really my space daddy and we're all going to MARS!" card.

fark you, US Television.

/and Ashes To Ashes did the weird-ass ending better, too.
2013-01-19 10:32:40 AM  
1 votes:

TheLopper: It wasn't the greatest show ever, but The Shield had one of the most perfect endings ever.

/The Wire had a great wrap up as well.


yes to both of these.

Six feet Under, imo, had the finest finale of all.
2013-01-19 10:00:45 AM  
1 votes:

LonMead: "...you should wear more sweaters..."


She did have lovely sweater puppies.....(sigh)

I must disagree with you slightly though, the word 'sitcom' shouldn't be in your link.  It was the greatest of any show ever.  Something like that had never been seen before & now we have most series' trying to out Newhart Newhart with their own finale (gimicks, strange twists, dead silence (which actually worked in that case), etc).  It made you not care as much that a show was over (by laughing too hard to really dwell on that 'this is IT') & yet at the same time let you think that another beloved show was still going on in an alternate universe.  Normally I'm somewhat bittersweet about a show that I like ending but with that one I was giggling for weeks & glad that it was over just because it being so was such an awesome thing.

I'm old enough to remember getting together with my friends to watch the M*A*S*H finale.  Sadly I'm not old enough to forget how disappointed we were after the 2.5 hour suckfest.  It isn't easy to wrap up a long running series coherently.
2013-01-19 09:53:04 AM  
1 votes:
www.badhaven.com

still waiting for this series to come out on DVD in the states.
2013-01-19 09:43:20 AM  
1 votes:
No love for The Shield? THAT was a perfect series finale.

/I've also heard good things about Six Feet Under, but I tried watching an episode once and just couldn't get into it.
2013-01-19 09:31:04 AM  
1 votes:

Brainsick: Gyrfalcon: "NYPD Blue" is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that wrapped everything and ended it, after some weirdity and fumbling.

You may be a few years younger than me because I remember LA Law and Hill Street Blues (Which were both Bochco productions IIRC) as having pretty good endings. We do not speak of the Cheers 'finale'.


That made me hate the entire show for years.
2013-01-19 08:56:25 AM  
1 votes:

jake_lex: Sybarite: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


The conclusion of B5 was among my favorites of all time.

That actually turned out better than it might have, because they'd had to wrap up the big majority of what was going to be a 5 season arc in the finale of season 4 because it looked like they were going to get cancelled.


The series finale was actually filmed at the end of season 4 since they didn't know if they were getting a renewal, and aired the deconstruction of falling stars in its place when they did.

Also, I think All Good Things... was a great finale.
2013-01-19 08:35:58 AM  
1 votes:

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)



The conclusion of B5 was among my favorites of all time.
2013-01-19 08:32:38 AM  
1 votes:

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


Three words: "Sleeping in Light".

/you'll bawled like a baby
2013-01-19 08:18:17 AM  
1 votes:

IlGreven: swahnhennessy: They blow all of their good storylines and then coast for a couple more seasons on the boxed drama and lazy conflict of character relationships?

/won't watch arc-driven TV any more until the series is wrapped and I've got solid assurances that it is worth the time

Flashback: 1999.

A comic fan goes up to one of his buddies and says, "Hey! Did you hear about this great new comic series? It's got loads of fights, great comedy, and of course, babes with those two superpowers, if you get what I'm sayin'!"

"Yeah, I've heard of it", his buddy tells him, "But I think I'll wait for the trade to get into it." ("The trade" = "Trade paperback", which for comics is usually an omnibus of a set number of comics, usually 6-12.)

Three issues later, the comic is cancelled due to low sales. The trade? The last product relating to the comic. That is, of course, if it gets released at all.

Flash Forward: 2009.

A teevee buff goes up to one of his buddies and says, "Hey! Did you hear about this great new show on F*X! It's got loads of fights, great comedy, and of course, HALF-NAKED CHICKS!"

"Yeah, I've heard of it", his buddy tells him, "But I think I'll wait for the DVD."

Three episodes later, the show is cancelled due to low ratings. The DVD? The last product relating to the show. That is, of course, if it gets released at all.

And the cycle of life continues...


Yet both comics and TV keep writing for the collected edition.....
2013-01-19 08:13:39 AM  
1 votes:
It has"1600" in the title?
2013-01-19 07:48:23 AM  
1 votes:
How many of these categories does The Office fall under?
2013-01-19 07:33:55 AM  
1 votes:
They forgot 'Hey, let's drop one of the finest series ever made and start a show called Jon from Cincinnati'
2013-01-19 06:20:21 AM  
1 votes:

LonMead: The series finale that started it all:
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Just don't buy the single DVD sets, because they feature a butchered, synthesizer soundtrack and replacement music. It's the complete series with restored music or nothing.
2013-01-19 03:13:52 AM  
1 votes:
Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character

You know who I'm talking about - the character who was sort of cute when they stood in the back and had the occasional funny line. Or someone who was a mysterious, shadowy figure, until we learned all about him or her. Or someone who was always sort of obnoxious and jerky, but less goody-two-shoes than the rest of the cast. In any case, sometimes a vocal group of fans will latch on to a particular character as a "fan favorite," and start clamoring for him/her to get more screen time. And the producers oblige, until suddenly the whole show is about this character, instead of the people you thought it was about all this time. And that usually means the resolution is going to be really, really weird.



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2013-01-19 02:01:27 AM  
1 votes:
They use the 'Hand of God' to thwart unthwartable foe
2013-01-18 09:16:50 PM  
1 votes:
A Dane Cook special?
2013-01-18 08:09:14 PM  
1 votes:
Someone on the show has a baby?
2013-01-18 08:05:49 PM  
1 votes:
It's produced by Joss Whedon?
 
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