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2013-01-19 08:29:26 AM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: It's on FOX?


Won in one.
 
2013-01-19 08:32:38 AM  

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


Three words: "Sleeping in Light".

/you'll bawled like a baby
 
2013-01-19 08:33:35 AM  

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisko just up and went Prophet.



Just another story about a black man abandoning his wife and children.

/Actually, Avery Brooks biatched about Sisko going Prophet because he felt it looked like what I just said. Of course, Avery Brooks is kind of nuts.
 
2013-01-19 08:35:34 AM  

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


The re-imagined BSG had a pretty good ending (except for the 4 or 5 minute coda).
 
2013-01-19 08:35:58 AM  

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)



The conclusion of B5 was among my favorites of all time.
 
2013-01-19 08:37:43 AM  

WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


You come on Fark and diss DS9 by not calling it the best TV show in TV history?

Damn dude, you got some brass balls
 
2013-01-19 08:39:32 AM  

Sybarite: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


The conclusion of B5 was among my favorites of all time.


That actually turned out better than it might have, because they'd had to wrap up the big majority of what was going to be a 5 season arc in the finale of season 4 because it looked like they were going to get cancelled.
 
2013-01-19 08:41:13 AM  
How did I forget B5.... well, the exception that proves the rule...
 
2013-01-19 08:44:34 AM  
Ted McGinley joins the cast?
 
2013-01-19 08:52:50 AM  

buntz: Ted McGinley joins the cast?


Nah, Married With Children had its best years with him on it.
 
2013-01-19 08:53:27 AM  
Ted McGinley and Summer Glau show up?
 
2013-01-19 08:55:53 AM  
AHHH DAMN!!

buntz beat me
 
2013-01-19 08:56:25 AM  

jake_lex: Sybarite: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)


The conclusion of B5 was among my favorites of all time.

That actually turned out better than it might have, because they'd had to wrap up the big majority of what was going to be a 5 season arc in the finale of season 4 because it looked like they were going to get cancelled.


The series finale was actually filmed at the end of season 4 since they didn't know if they were getting a renewal, and aired the deconstruction of falling stars in its place when they did.

Also, I think All Good Things... was a great finale.
 
2013-01-19 09:16:30 AM  

Snapper Carr: Bazinga


/My hate for that show burns brighter than a thousand suns because of him.


I heard that.
 
2013-01-19 09:27:57 AM  

Gyrfalcon: "NYPD Blue" is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that wrapped everything and ended it, after some weirdity and fumbling.


You may be a few years younger than me because I remember LA Law and Hill Street Blues (Which were both Bochco productions IIRC) as having pretty good endings. We do not speak of the Cheers 'finale'.
 
2013-01-19 09:31:04 AM  

Brainsick: Gyrfalcon: "NYPD Blue" is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that wrapped everything and ended it, after some weirdity and fumbling.

You may be a few years younger than me because I remember LA Law and Hill Street Blues (Which were both Bochco productions IIRC) as having pretty good endings. We do not speak of the Cheers 'finale'.


That made me hate the entire show for years.
 
2013-01-19 09:32:33 AM  

Snapper Carr: Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character

[i.imgur.com image 240x300]

Bazinga


/My hate for that show burns brighter than a thousand suns because of him.


I use the show as a metal detector for stupid people trying to be smart. "I got one of their 'smart' gags, I must be a genius!" No.

/That and Crocs.
 
2013-01-19 09:34:24 AM  

Brainsick: We do not speak of the Cheers 'finale'.


This, on the other hand, the greatest of sitcom finales...

"...you should wear more sweaters..."
 
2013-01-19 09:43:20 AM  
No love for The Shield? THAT was a perfect series finale.

/I've also heard good things about Six Feet Under, but I tried watching an episode once and just couldn't get into it.
 
2013-01-19 09:50:07 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisco just up and went Prophet.

Space shows with a follow-up movie don't count (Peacekeeper Wars was awesome. Right, Harvey?)

The re-imagined BSG had a pretty good ending (except for the 4 or 5 minute coda).


I was afraid you'd gone and done it now, but it seems to have slipped past everyone.

/liked it too
 
2013-01-19 09:53:04 AM  
www.badhaven.com

still waiting for this series to come out on DVD in the states.
 
2013-01-19 09:54:50 AM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: It's on FOX?


It stars summer Glau?
 
2013-01-19 10:00:45 AM  

LonMead: "...you should wear more sweaters..."


She did have lovely sweater puppies.....(sigh)

I must disagree with you slightly though, the word 'sitcom' shouldn't be in your link.  It was the greatest of any show ever.  Something like that had never been seen before & now we have most series' trying to out Newhart Newhart with their own finale (gimicks, strange twists, dead silence (which actually worked in that case), etc).  It made you not care as much that a show was over (by laughing too hard to really dwell on that 'this is IT') & yet at the same time let you think that another beloved show was still going on in an alternate universe.  Normally I'm somewhat bittersweet about a show that I like ending but with that one I was giggling for weeks & glad that it was over just because it being so was such an awesome thing.

I'm old enough to remember getting together with my friends to watch the M*A*S*H finale.  Sadly I'm not old enough to forget how disappointed we were after the 2.5 hour suckfest.  It isn't easy to wrap up a long running series coherently.
 
2013-01-19 10:01:07 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: WippitGuud: It's set in space?

I don't think any space TV show has had a decent ending. Closest was DS9, but I didn't like how Sisko just up and went Prophet.


Just another story about a black man abandoning his wife and children.

/Actually, Avery Brooks biatched about Sisko going Prophet because he felt it looked like what I just said. Of course, Avery Brooks is kind of nuts.


The original plan was for Sisko to sacrifice himself and die fighting. Turning prophet was a compromise since it indicated he might return.

No mention so far of TNG? That's how you wrap up a series. A surprisingly good finale for an almost completely episodic show.
 
2013-01-19 10:02:44 AM  
It's nice how this article doesn't explain any actual examples of what they're referring to, or they throw in occasional photos of random shows and assume that everyone is already familiar with them and knows exactly what they're talking about.

Seriously lazy writing there.
 
2013-01-19 10:10:56 AM  

I. M. Foreman: [www.badhaven.com image 477x344]

still waiting for this series to come out on DVD in the states.


I'm guessing Blake's 7?

Siffy is doing an American adaptation *shudder*

But, hey, pick up a cheap DVD player after googling to make sure the player can be set to region free mode, and import them biatches from the UK.
 
2013-01-19 10:12:07 AM  

NeoCortex42: The original plan was for Sisko to sacrifice himself and die fighting. Turning prophet was a compromise since it indicated he might return.


The way I see it, he was forced to sacrifice himself for the good of the galaxy or whatever. If he was anybody else he would have just died, but it's not really his fault he became a prophet instead.
 
2013-01-19 10:16:39 AM  

whenIsayGO: NeoCortex42: The original plan was for Sisko to sacrifice himself and die fighting. Turning prophet was a compromise since it indicated he might return.

The way I see it, he was forced to sacrifice himself for the good of the galaxy or whatever. If he was anybody else he would have just died, but it's not really his fault he became a prophet instead.


In the show, the finale made sense just fine. I just think it's odd that they had to compromise on the fate of the character just because Avery Brooks is black.

The only one that ever seemed to have a problem with race in the future was Sisko. He managed to bring it up every single chance he got.
 
2013-01-19 10:29:14 AM  
It wasn't the greatest show ever, but The Shield had one of the most perfect endings ever.

/The Wire had a great wrap up as well.
 
2013-01-19 10:32:40 AM  

TheLopper: It wasn't the greatest show ever, but The Shield had one of the most perfect endings ever.

/The Wire had a great wrap up as well.


yes to both of these.

Six feet Under, imo, had the finest finale of all.
 
2013-01-19 10:45:32 AM  
Forever Knight had a nice Hamlet-like ending. All the main characters die.
 
2013-01-19 10:46:56 AM  

BizarreMan: Summer Glau's Love Slave: It's on FOX?

It stars summer Glau?


Your whore mouth is talking. You might want to see to that.
 
2013-01-19 10:51:32 AM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: BizarreMan: Summer Glau's Love Slave: It's on FOX?

It stars summer Glau?

Your whore mouth is talking. You might want to see to that.


And with Alphas gone, she has one more show to add to her list.
 
2013-01-19 10:55:21 AM  
If you ignore the last eight seconds of the last ever episode of the LA Complex it has a really good finishing episode.
"We made something."
Such an underrated show.

Also a good ending: Frontline(the Australian Sitcom, not the PBS show) with its funeral in Epitaph. It tied together all the themes of the show perfectly.
 
2013-01-19 10:58:18 AM  

simplicimus: Forever Knight had a nice Hamlet-like ending. All the main characters die.


Like every season of Blackadder.
 
2013-01-19 11:42:26 AM  

simplicimus: Forever Knight had a nice Hamlet-like ending. All the main characters die.


That was a heck of an ending. But it was less "Hamlet" and more "Take THAT For Cancelling Us".
 
2013-01-19 11:43:08 AM  
www.exposay.com

This guy is in the cast.
 
2013-01-19 11:47:22 AM  

98K514: [www.exposay.com image 480x620]

This guy is in the cast.


The Life on Mars US hacks already had a perfectly good ending to go with, yet they decided to play the "Gene Hunt's really my space daddy and we're all going to MARS!" card.

fark you, US Television.

/and Ashes To Ashes did the weird-ass ending better, too.
 
2013-01-19 12:03:48 PM  

Summoner101: You've dragged it out for so long for ratings you've missed all opportunities for ending it with any impact? (House)


I stopped watching when House went into the psych ward. That was a great ending, for me. I'm told I didn't miss much or anything in the ensuing seasons. I wasn't being pretentious, I just sort of lost time to watch it.

LDM90: I think they're trying to cover pretty much every show ever.

Also, I'm not sure when it happened (probably around the time OMGSPOILERS became a big thing) but it's all about the ending now and I'm sick of it. People won't bother to watch a show at all if they've heard it has a bad final episode. Lost, BSG, Sopranos... Despite the show being 99% awesome, people won't watch it because they didn't have everything planned out from the beginning or something.

It's a really stupid way to watch tv and it almost always leads to disappointment.


Because endings matter? If I'm going to get invested in a show, and then they just crap out a nonsensical ending that ruins or counteracts the entire show anyway, why bother? I can get a dozen different things to read or watch, why invest time in the one that shiats on the ending? It doesn't need to be some perfect magical ending or something, but 'main character gets shot in the face fade to black' is a bullshiat cliffhanger that wouldn't fly on a season finale, let alone a final episode. Or Stephen King's 'endings' to most of his novels. If your 'ending' raises more questions in the last page than you have answered in the preceeding 400, then fark you, you've wasted my time.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:20 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

/that is all
 
2013-01-19 12:20:52 PM  

Frozboz: They're right about LOST. When Locke was killed... ugh. That show had potential, but that episode *felt* wrong.


Absolutely with this one. The ep where he dies just seemed so rushed and that death so unceremonious that when he seemed "resurrected" on his return to the island I actually fell for that that angle, because it was the only way to make his death seem satisfying in the first place.

/Don't get me started on how much that show let me down....
 
2013-01-19 12:38:22 PM  

Martstar: Frozboz: They're right about LOST. When Locke was killed... ugh. That show had potential, but that episode *felt* wrong.

Absolutely with this one. The ep where he dies just seemed so rushed and that death so unceremonious that when he seemed "resurrected" on his return to the island I actually fell for that that angle, because it was the only way to make his death seem satisfying in the first place.

/Don't get me started on how much that show let me down....


Locke is one of the most tragic figures in television. All he wanted his whole life was to feel special, but he ended up being nothing but a pawn for one asshole after another (His dad, Ben, Jacob, MiB). Even his death was an empty and unceremonious one.
 
2013-01-19 12:39:30 PM  
"Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character"

Dan from Night Court
 
2013-01-19 12:45:18 PM  

hbk72777: "Someone totally annoying becomes a "fan favorite" character"

Dan from Night Court


I never considered him an annoying character. Sure, he annoyed the other characters whenever he had the chance, but not the audience. He was one of the strongest members of the cast from the beginning.

Granted, some of the latter season plots with him got ridiculous, but that's true for almost all the characters on the show.
 
2013-01-19 12:55:44 PM  

Kibbler: It has"1600" in the title?


THIS!

www.gannett-cdn.com

Josh Gad must have one hell of an agent. I have seen a couple episodes of 1600 Penn and hate his character, yet he seems to get a lot of screen time so I don't think I will be able to stomach the show. This show seems to have a promising premise, but he will kill it. Seems like the West Wing has had funnier "family in the white house bits" then this show will ever have. (Bartlett calling about how to cook a turkey comes to mind). And it wasn't really trying for that angle.

I remember first seeing Josh on the Daily show once and then never again. He seemed to be trying to hard to copy Lewis Black and he just couldn't pull it off. Yelling the joke and being mad doesn't make it funny on its own. Yet he keeps getting work.

Another one is Kat Dennings on Two Broke Girls. Her character is just too crass,negative for me to like her (granted I like other things about her) but that character just ruins it for me.

Article reminded me about FlashForward a lot. Had a great premise and setup good mystery around the event, but instead the writers decide to just focus on Mr. Alky's marriage instead.

/"'CAUSE I WAS LOADED!"
 
2013-01-19 12:56:10 PM  
Why is there a picture of Chuck in an article about bad finales? That show had an awesome finale, although a lot of the last two seasons was weak.
 
2013-01-19 01:04:37 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Why is there a picture of Chuck in an article about bad finales? That show had an awesome finale, although a lot of the last two seasons was weak.


I think the article was implying that the romance between the leads was a reason the show was going down the tubes.
The Chuck-Sarah romance was really nice, once they got it into place it avoided about 90% of the cliches that shows like that usually fall into and then had a tragic or uplifting ending depending on how you looked at it, the article writer is a fool.
 
2013-01-19 01:18:28 PM  

Hyjamon: Article reminded me about FlashForward a lot. Had a great premise and setup good mystery around the event, but instead the writers decide to just focus on Mr. Alky's marriage instead.


That's a show that would have made a great miniseries, just like Last Resort should have been.

/"'CAUSE I WAS LOADED!"

At least it will always be remembered for that great line and amazing delivery.
 
2013-01-19 01:25:33 PM  
One of the best finales ever
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-19 01:34:41 PM  
You never meet the farking mother?
 
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