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2013-01-19 03:50:44 AM  

doglover: What is this?


To what conclusion did I jump? I am comparing one country with strict gun control and one with comparatively less gun control.
 
2013-01-19 03:57:11 AM  
I'd like to point out, doglover, that one reason we don't know whether or not I'm jumping to conclusions is that your fellow derpy derpers at the NRA lobbied to ban all federal research on guns and gun violence at the CDC.

You'd think that if gun owners were so confident that gun ownership isn't correlated with violence, they would be clamoring to prove it with studies. Instead, they lobbied to have it banned. MYSTERIOUS.

I bet you also think I'd be jumping to conclusions if I said people who smoke cigarettes have a greater chance of lung cancer.
 
2013-01-19 04:02:04 AM  

James F. Campbell: your fellow derpy derpers at the NRA


I'm not and never have been in the NRA.
 
2013-01-19 04:03:13 AM  
Does Dailymail.co.uk often carry crime articles about New Jersey?
 
2013-01-19 04:03:44 AM  

fusillade762: doglover: Back in December, Haynes was charged with animal cruelty for setting a cat on fire

And people doubt me when I say you should just hang people who are cruel to animals. Anyone who can abuse an animal is evil and prefers helpless victims. They will always escalate their cruelty. We don't need them.

That's two of the serial killer warning signs rolled up into one.


Contrabulous Flabtraption: Kinda of interesting as far as the "no guns then psychos will kill with other weapons" argument

Please note that the victim isn't dead.


And there is only one victim. Can't help but wonder how much worse it would have been if he had been carrying a gun. Wild speculation, yes, but no worse than the usual speculation of "if only one of the victims had been armed, this wouldn't have happened."

Interesting to note that a gun would have been no help to the victim, but her mobile phone proved a lifesaver.
 
2013-01-19 04:06:25 AM  

doglover: I'm not and never have been in the NRA.


I did not say that you were in the NRA. I'm saying that you are a derpy derper just like the ones in the NRA.
 
2013-01-19 04:11:30 AM  

James F. Campbell: doglover: I'm not and never have been in the NRA.

I did not say that you were in the NRA. I'm saying that you are a derpy derper just like the ones in the NRA.


Not quite. You're at like a 650 TOIEC score, but your English is still not that good. You put words together, but they don't mean what you think they mean.
 
2013-01-19 04:12:31 AM  

doglover: Not quite. You're at like a 650 TOIEC score, but your English is still not that good. You put words together, but they don't mean what you think they mean.


You're the poster child for why liberals should give up trying to make the world a better place.
 
2013-01-19 04:14:04 AM  

FriarReb98: How the fark was he not locked up tight once he farking burned up a cat??  See, THIS is exactly the kind of shiat that's been the hushed topic in all these gun threads!  Guy's obviously farked in the head and we just let him go free?   What kind of farked up psychiatric system is that??


can only commit you if you are a danger to yourself or others
cats dont count

but where would be draw the line?
rush, santorum or bachmann are completely insane.
You know that one day that they might snap.
but we wont lock them up, why not?

what about the people who believe in ghosts and hear voices in their heads?
when should we lock them up?
what if there are a LOT of them?
xians??
 
2013-01-19 04:54:13 AM  

namatad: can only commit you if you are a danger to yourself or others
cats dont count


And that's why you don't and won't be in charge of anything ever.
 
2013-01-19 05:17:53 AM  
Guess Bb&B will have to chain down knives or put them in a case so you have to have an armed guard to look at them. Because you know KNIVES CAUSED THIS. Does anyone find it interesting I got this from the UK news during GUN BAN FIESTA.
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2013-01-19 05:19:15 AM  

Cup_O_Jo: Guess Bb&B will have to chain down knives or put them in a case so you have to have an armed guard to look at them. Because you know KNIVES CAUSED THIS. Does anyone find it interesting I got this from the UK news during GUN BAN FIESTA.
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Thx for the cup o java. lol
 
2013-01-19 05:46:00 AM  

atomicmask: Act now, write your politician and DEMAND a world free of COMBAT KNIVES today.


I support the assault knife ban! No one needs a fully auto knife.
 
2013-01-19 05:49:41 AM  
Sadly, I can believe this could happen without anyone else stepping in to help, but seriously, according to the article, the victim (the woman, not the cat) had to call 911 herself? Really?

2nd point: She's hot.

3rd point: fark that piece of shiat. Somebody light him on fire.
 
2013-01-19 05:50:27 AM  

James F. Campbell: Gyrfalcon: Unless the crime was committed by poison, all homicides were initiated with an assault, dearie. An "assault" is simply an act intended to cause the victim to be in apprehension of an imminent attack, OR an attempted battery; and you have to admit that any action preliminary to striking or touching the victim is going to be an assault.

So unless you slipped some arsenic into their elderberry wine, anything else you did before killing them was assault them, regardless of whether you killed them with a bazooka or a dish towel.

You know, the more I read this, the stupider it gets. You must have misread the graph and/or my intentions in making/posting it. The graph compares two countries, one with gun control and one without, and shows that gun control works. No, it doesn't control for other variables, but I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the difference is due to gun control. The reason I focused on deaths from assaults is that there are other types of deaths: accidental.

You stupid fark.


You need to loosen your shorts. I'm not even sure why you're so infuriated except you had an argument with me in your own mind and got all upset about something you imagined I said.

Are you still angry because the other day I didn't agree with you that all right-wingers should be presumptively banned from holding office?
 
2013-01-19 06:41:42 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: Cup_O_Jo: Guess Bb&B will have to chain down knives or put them in a case so you have to have an armed guard to look at them. Because you know KNIVES CAUSED THIS. Does anyone find it interesting I got this from the UK news during GUN BAN FIESTA.
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Thx for the cup o java. lol


10 points for Gryffindor!
 
2013-01-19 06:47:17 AM  
Bed

crm.fbtstaging.com

Bath

1.bp.blogspot.com

& Beyond

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-19 07:04:53 AM  
Man takes an assault rifle into sears, nothing happens.
Unarmed Woman walks into bed bath and beyond, gets mauled.


Moral of the story?
Shop at Sears.
 
2013-01-19 07:11:47 AM  
Take it from Peter Griffin

farm5.staticflickr.com

Stay away from that beyond section!
 
2013-01-19 08:06:43 AM  

Mayhem_2006:
Interesting to note that a gun would have been no help to the victim, but her mobile phone proved a lifesaver.


Women can be trained to use a phone, but not a defensive handgun? That she had to make her own 911 call illustrates that in the long, long critical moments of violence, you are probably all on your own.

Find a trained shooter and do an experiment with a rubber knife: See how many times you can simulate stabbing him before he draws and shoots. (You'll have in the neighborhood of two seconds.) Then see how many times he can "stab" you before you dial 911 and the police show up.
 
2013-01-19 08:37:25 AM  
Does every farking thread need to be derailed into your stupid ass gun wankfest?
 
2013-01-19 09:00:40 AM  

Oblio13: Mayhem_2006:
Interesting to note that a gun would have been no help to the victim, but her mobile phone proved a lifesaver.

Women can be trained to use a phone, but not a defensive handgun? That she had to make her own 911 call illustrates that in the long, long critical moments of violence, you are probably all on your own.

Find a trained shooter and do an experiment with a rubber knife: See how many times you can simulate stabbing him before he draws and shoots. (You'll have in the neighborhood of two seconds.) Then see how many times he can "stab" you before you dial 911 and the police show up.


FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.
 
2013-01-19 09:18:15 AM  

atomicmask: Oh its about body count? Cars kill around 30 thousand a year, guns kill around 9 thousand...maybe we should start with cars..


We already did. We have driver licensing, vehicle registration, speed limits, a system of traffic laws whose violation can lead to license suspension, mandatory safety features and laws mandating the use of seat belts, child seats, etc.

This has dramatically reduced traffic fatalities. Now that we started with cars, let's do guns. I'm surprised you want this same sort of regulatory regime applied to firearms, but if everyone keeps using this analogy, I guess that's what the public wants, amirite?
 
2013-01-19 09:34:11 AM  
i276.photobucket.com

If only there was something she could have placed between her and the perp.....
/actually I think her huge milk-filled breasts saved her life
 
2013-01-19 09:34:51 AM  

Stavr0: Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah ...
[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x300]
Hot n dirty.


Simpsons did it!
 
2013-01-19 09:36:35 AM  

atomicmask: Most people who are shot survive. If she had a gun, she might not had been stabbed at all..


You can only believe this if your understanding of reality comes from playing turn-based computer games.

If a dude next to you in the store suddenly starts stabbing you in the chest, that's pretty much a surprise attack. you don't get the initiative to pull your gun out and shoot before the first stab wound.

Even in ideal circumstances, e.g. if you're witnessing a sudden attack but not being injured yourself, it takes a few seconds of confused fumbling to pull out a concealed weapon. If you've been stabbed a few times in the chest, good luck pulling out your gun, and assuming that a violent psychopath isn't simply going to take it from you and kill you some more.

It's also illogical to cite how many people die from knife attacks versus gun shots. People receive gun shots in many different scenarios, at different ranges. In this specific scenario, where a psycho has stalked you and decided to kill you, a gun shot would probably be fatal.
 
2013-01-19 09:51:00 AM  
how do you make a dog sound like a cat and a cat sound like a dog?
Take a circular saw to the dog and make it go eoooooowww eeeooooww
Take some lighter fluid squirt it on a cat toss a match on it make it go Woooof
 
2013-01-19 10:32:07 AM  
Criminals, stupid as many are, are not retarded. As more and more people walk around armed they will factor this in and just shoot first.
 
2013-01-19 10:33:14 AM  
What is it with British newspapers and their incessant need to put up 300 unnecessary photographs with every article.

The first pic didn't even show the necessary parts!
 
2013-01-19 12:01:43 PM  

Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.


It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.
 
2013-01-19 12:02:42 PM  

Oblio13: Mayhem_2006:
Interesting to note that a gun would have been no help to the victim, but her mobile phone proved a lifesaver.

Women can be trained to use a phone, but not a defensive handgun? That she had to make her own 911 call illustrates that in the long, long critical moments of violence, you are probably all on your own.

Find a trained shooter and do an experiment with a rubber knife: See how many times you can simulate stabbing him before he draws and shoots. (You'll have in the neighborhood of two seconds.) Then see how many times he can "stab" you before you dial 911 and the police show up.


why a trained shooter?
why not the reverse?
try to shoot a trained shooter and see how long it takes him to disarm you and then shoot you?

actually, I have no idea what the stats are in number of people shot by a perp with their own gun.
I bet the number is REALLY LOW.

but unless she was willing to shoot and kill someone in self-defense, the gun doesnt actually help.
how about a billy club instead?
pretty sure that most people would have no problem smacking someone with a billy club
stun gun, mace ...

here is my point, there are tons of things between unarmed and flamethrower.
most of them are as easy to use as a gun, but with none of the "problems" of a gun.

/there are two kinds of gun owners: those that have had an accidental discharge and those that will have one in the future
/I wonder what the stats on that are. what percentage of gun owners have NEVER, EVER had an accidental discharge. not counting fark gun owners.
 
2013-01-19 12:23:10 PM  

namatad: /I wonder what the stats on that are. what percentage of gun owners have NEVER, EVER had an accidental discharge. not counting fark gun owners.


I've owned a gun for a decade, and never had an accidental discharge. It's actually fairly easy to do, as long as you follow one simple rule: never get drunk or stoned without locking your gun in a safe you can't open while drunk or stoned.

/or never get drunk or stoned
//it's actually possible for some people to pull that last one off, though I know it's not for everybody
 
2013-01-19 01:08:05 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.

It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.


Because pulling out a gun when you have been stabbed twice in the chest By a stabby lunatic who is still attacking you is soooo easy.
 
2013-01-19 01:44:31 PM  

Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.

It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.

Because pulling out a gun when you have been stabbed twice in the chest By a stabby lunatic who is still attacking you is soooo easy.


Easier than dialing a cellphone and waiting for police, and in fact easier than fighting back with a knife or billy club.

/almost too easy really
//which is why guns are so hated by people who proclaim their belief in equality but secretly resent the fact that some weak little woman can still kill them no matter how many times they went to the gym in 26 minutes
 
2013-01-19 02:29:12 PM  

Gyrfalcon: you had an argument with me in your own mind and got all upset about something you imagined I said.


This is precisely what you did in that stupid post of yours. Christ, you're stupid.
 
2013-01-19 02:32:53 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.

It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.

Because pulling out a gun when you have been stabbed twice in the chest By a stabby lunatic who is still attacking you is soooo easy.

Easier than dialing a cellphone and waiting for police, and in fact easier than fighting back with a knife or billy club


She used the phone to call for help after he had stopped attacking her.

Guns are pretty useless for summoning ambulances. So I stand by my initial statement - a gun wouldn't have helped her, the cellphone did.

If she had had a gun instead of a phone - what? She was going to shoot him after he stopped? So when help eventually arrives, there are 2 dead bodies, instead of one bleeding victim and a healthy perp. Real useful.
 
2013-01-19 02:33:13 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Are you still angry because the other day I didn't agree with you that all right-wingers should be presumptively banned from holding office?


I'm angry with you because you made this stupid post in which you misread my graph, attack me for NO REASON, and fail to make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER in the context of what I posted. And yet there you sit, acting smug. YOU are the one getting upset over something that YOU imagined I said, you projecting shiatwipe. Christ, you're living proof that the Dunning-Kruger effect is true: stupid people are too stupid to realize they're incompetent!
 
2013-01-19 03:12:02 PM  

Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.

It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.

Because pulling out a gun when you have been stabbed twice in the chest By a stabby lunatic who is still attacking you is soooo easy.

Easier than dialing a cellphone and waiting for police, and in fact easier than fighting back with a knife or billy club

She used the phone to call for help after he had stopped attacking her.

Guns are pretty useless for summoning ambulances.


Shoot off a gun in public, you'll summon all sorts of things.
Including bowel movements from your attacker.

/like you're going to successfully dial the cops while being stabbed.
 
2013-01-19 03:46:05 PM  
I feel all stabby when Mrs. Goat drags me to BB&B.
 
2013-01-19 05:39:39 PM  

doglover: ParagonComplex: now this monster is off the streets.

But society still has to pay for him. To eat, to sleep, to wear clothes, to move his bowels, and if this woman doesn't die, probably to live a good long time in a cage.

He could father children with messed women who like to bang criminals, like Tex Watson did. How messed up is the law when you can't smoke in a bar but a man who burns cats alive and stabs women multiple times won't face the gallows? Priorities? We lacks 'em.


You can't smoke in bars where you live? That's pretty messed up. You still can here in Tennessee. You can smoke in any 21+ location. It is screwed up that we have to house people like this. What they should do is lock him up in a mental institution the rest of his life. People as evil as this need to be studied. I like to be positive and optimistic in the sense that everyone can be helped, but he should still never be allowed in public again. Ever. At the very least his brain chemistry needs to be studied. Even the evil can still serve a purpose. They also don't allow conjugal visits to the violent inmates, I think, so hopefully he'll never breed. People like him need to be castrated.

I kind of feel bad, because as much as I love animals one of my first thoughts was "I'm glad it wasn't a dog, because this would ruin my night." I never even watched the video from however long back with that kid throwing the puppies in the river that sparked an international outrage. You know you're a frakked up individual when you incite global outrage.
 
2013-01-19 06:44:54 PM  

Pichu0102: Does every farking thread need to be derailed into your stupid ass gun wankfest?


Yes. I think there's a rule.
 
2013-01-19 07:22:25 PM  
Uh, Mr Campbell could you perhaps cut back a wee bit on the hypercaffeinated coffee and steroids?
 
2013-01-19 07:25:22 PM  

James F. Campbell: Gyrfalcon: Are you still angry because the other day I didn't agree with you that all right-wingers should be presumptively banned from holding office?

I'm angry with you because you made this stupid post in which you misread my graph, attack me for NO REASON, and fail to make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER in the context of what I posted. And yet there you sit, acting smug. YOU are the one getting upset over something that YOU imagined I said, you projecting shiatwipe. Christ, you're living proof that the Dunning-Kruger effect is true: stupid people are too stupid to realize they're incompetent!


And your incoherent raging certainly makes the rest of us see you as a normal person that we should side with.
 
2013-01-19 09:03:35 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: incoherent raging


Look, it's not my fault if you can't read.
 
2013-01-19 09:04:32 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: normal person that we should side with


I don't care if you side with me or not. I'm right, and that's what matters. Disregard me at your own peril.
 
2013-01-19 09:09:08 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: And your incoherent raging certainly makes the rest of us see you as a normal person that we should side with.


And another thing, asshole, I bet you'd get pissed off, too, if some farking shiat-guzzling moron came up to you and starting saying ridiculous bullshiat like this:

You: Here's a graph that compares deaths from assaults in one country to deaths from assaults in another country.
Moron: WELL OF COURSE HOMICIDES ARE CAUSED BY ASSAULTS LOL YOU'RE AN IDIOT!
You: I wasn't even talking about that, you farking moron.

It's insulting to be treated like an idiot by people who are themselves idiots, especially when they don't know what they're talking about.
 
2013-01-19 09:32:15 PM  
Hmmmm.

[leaves a hot carafe of PCP laced Kona coffee for Mr Campbell]

*shrug*

Why the heck not.
 
2013-01-20 02:49:43 AM  

way south: Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: Tatterdemalian: Mayhem_2006: FTA: Kerri Dalton walking through store when rushed with no warning by man with a knife

If you have no warning, all the firepower in the world isn't going to help.

It might help make the difference between being stabbed two times and being stabbed twenty times.

Because pulling out a gun when you have been stabbed twice in the chest By a stabby lunatic who is still attacking you is soooo easy.

Easier than dialing a cellphone and waiting for police, and in fact easier than fighting back with a knife or billy club

She used the phone to call for help after he had stopped attacking her.

Guns are pretty useless for summoning ambulances.

Shoot off a gun in public, you'll summon all sorts of things.


Yes, you'll summon the cops, who won't let anyone - including paramedics - near the scene until they are sure that there is no longer any threat from shooting.

By the time they declared the scene safe, she'd have almost certainly bled out.

Really not sure why people are having a problem with this simple fact. in this particular instance, a gun would not have protected her, but her phone saved her life. No amount of cowboy gunman posturing is going to change that simple fact.
 
2013-01-21 03:41:27 PM  
Nina_Hartley's_Ass
>>>> OnlyM3: WhippingBoy
>>>> >>>> DubyaHater: What will Obama say about this tragedy? Oh right, we only care about gun
>>>> >>>> control in this country.
>>>> >>>> Think of the high score he could have gotten if only he had a Bushmaster.
>>>> Just like the bushmaster used at Sandy Hook huh?

Truth still eluding you.

No...you.

Only handguns taken into school per NBC
link to NBC video
" ... 4 handguns and ONLY handguns...."
 
2013-01-21 08:02:29 PM  

OnlyM3: Only handguns taken into school per NBC


Well thanks. I like it when people step up and say "Please set your fark label for me to 'conspiracy nutbag'"

/or maybe I should use "heartless prick who dismisses the murder of children because of his politics"
 
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