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2013-01-19 12:06:15 AM  

whatshisname: So, by that logic, the US has about 500% more mentally ill people than Canada? Why? Is there something in the water?


Pop Canada: 35 M

Pop America: 350M

We should have a infinitely greater number of mentally ill people than Canada because there's only 35 million of them. That's less than one per hectare. Their crazy people probably run into the woods, or are driven there, and then die in the snow. Any is infinitely greater than none (for long).
 
2013-01-19 12:06:47 AM  

OnlyM3: WhippingBoy

DubyaHater: What will Obama say about this tragedy? Oh right, we only care about gun control in this country.

Think of the high score he could have gotten if only he had a Bushmaster.
Just like the bushmaster used at Sandy Hook huh?

Truth still eluding you.


No...you.
 
2013-01-19 12:07:17 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: if SHE had possessed a weapon, her life might have NEVER been in danger..

Or this lunatic stabs her anyway AND NOW HE'S GOT A GUN.

"Haynes allegedly rushed upon Kerri Dalton, 29, with no warning as she pushed her son's stroller through the store"

What's your thinking here? She's pushing a stroller with gun in her hand? She's shooting anyone who gets within three feet of her?

Here's the biggest problem. Most people are irresponsible assholes who do enough damage already. Guns just increase that capability.

Yeah everyone is just an irresponsible asshole, thats why we have a population of around 50,000 in the united states because everyone is just constantly murdering one another!

Or you are a hyper emotional ass.

here is a news flash, you are not the only capable sane person in the world. The majority of people are very rational, calm, polite, and non-violent. The fact that you view many of your neighors as frothing at the mouth psychopaths says more about your mental instability then theirs.

Again your what if is not superior or more logical then mine. Again if she had the possibility of defense, it is still a better chance to not be stabbed to death then the complete lack of possibility of defense...and this article is proof of what would and DID happen without a gun.

Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

Please narrate for us the tale of how this woman, open carrying in a mall, gets a better outcome.


She is stabbed once, maybe 2-3 times before she realizes what is happens, another few times before she gets her gun out, and then the assault ends with her emptying her firearm into the gut of said attacker.

That really to hard to understand? Or did you think her shrieks of pain and terror is what made the guy stop stabbing faster then a bullet to the belly?
 
2013-01-19 12:07:24 AM  

megarian: Indubitably: megarian: Indubitably: megarian: Amos Quito: Indubitably: JDJoeE: Why was the perp out of jail? Hopefully this time he leaves horizontally. In a box.

To wish death on another invites same. That is all.

Quit it.


Oh c'mon, Indub.

No one here gets out alive.

You know that.

DOA?

Not me, mosquitey, you?

To snikty

When you comment, I "tehehe".

... And Wolverine had nothing to
do with this?

You aren't real.

When you're right, you're right.


Indubitably!
 
2013-01-19 12:07:46 AM  

whatshisname: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Do you not see that this is a mental illness problem that we need to take care of?

So, by that logic, the US has about 500% more mentally ill people than Canada? Why? Is there something in the water?


Or maybe, just maybe, we have similar amounts, adjusted for demographics, and do a piss poor job of taking care of them.. In case you didn't notice, we're pretty big on throwing the mentally ill into the streets, do you see that in Canada?
 
2013-01-19 12:08:09 AM  

doglover: Pop Canada: 35 M

Pop America: 350M


My statistics were based on gun deaths per capita, not overall. 5x more in the US. Why?
 
2013-01-19 12:08:20 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

The victim failed this basic rule. That aside, the goblin should never have been out. The judge that let him out should hang as well.
 
2013-01-19 12:08:59 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

Here you go again with your claim of psychic powers.

You really think he didn't kill her or her kid because he didn't have a gun? Is that what you're going with here? Most likely he didn't want to kill her, he wanted her to suffer.


That must be why he only stabbed her twelve times.
 
2013-01-19 12:09:07 AM  

atomicmask: Lumpmoose: mjoven1975: Obama needs to ban all knives immediately. I don't care if we have to cut meat with a spoon, we need to get dangerous knives off our streets!

No need.  She's alive.  The 24 Chinese stabbing victims all survived.  Knives clearly have nowhere near the capacity to kill as semi-automatic firearms, hence guns are in their own category.  But who knows, maybe with Obama's executive actions, we'll get some real research on that.

NO, no, you are just being insensitive to the victims! HOW DARE YOU! Why do you hate the victims? You need to demand everyone in the world give up knives too. You don't NEED knives, you can just tear things apart with your hands if you need to..Who the hell actually USES or NEEDS COMBAT KNIVES.


The funny thing is, you think this parody makes gun-control advocates look stupid, and you're only half right. It's making someone look stupid, sure, but not the advocates of gun control.
 
2013-01-19 12:09:36 AM  

doglover: xanadian: doglover: Back in December, Haynes was charged with animal cruelty for setting a cat on fire

And people doubt me when I say you should just hang people who are cruel to animals. Anyone who can abuse an animal is evil and prefers helpless victims. They will always escalate their cruelty. We don't need them.

I second this motion.

Can we set the perp on fire?

No. Too long.

7' of drop from 6' of hemp. Free them from our misery as soon as possible.


Am I the only one who sees a problem here...
 
2013-01-19 12:09:47 AM  
We obviously need stricter knife control laws...
...then the spork murders will commence...
 
2013-01-19 12:11:05 AM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Ok WTF? Gun control issue aside (the reason this thread has so many comment's I assume), seriously WTF?


Me too..

Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?
 
2013-01-19 12:11:52 AM  

atomicmask: Farking Canuck: atomicmask: And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

So you're position is that, as sad as her injuries are, this is not a better result than 20 children and 6 adults dead. And therefore knifes should be covered by the same regulations as guns.

Really?

No, my position is that PSYCHOPATHS are the cause of both events, not GUNS or KNIVES. A gun may make killing easier, but it makes DEFENSE easier also. It gives someone a chance to save themselves, instead of making sure that strength and youth are the deciding factors in life or death. Again no one has addressed how a 80 year old grandma is supposed to fight off a full grown man intent on slitting her throat without a gun.. With a gun she could again, be on equal grounds with the attacker. Without one it is her strength and speed vs the attackers..and she will lose everytime.


I've seen 80 year old women paying for their groceries, and I'm here to say that an attacker would have time to brush his teeth, iron his clothes, get his hair colored, grab a bite to eat and carve granny into itty bitty pieces of meat before she'd ever have a chance whip out a gun and shoot him.
 
2013-01-19 12:11:56 AM  

doglover: Back in December, Haynes was charged with animal cruelty for setting a cat on fire

And people doubt me when I say you should just hang people who are cruel to animals. Anyone who can abuse an animal is evil and prefers helpless victims. They will always escalate their cruelty. We don't need them.


That is complete CRAP, you ignorant DUMBASS!

You need to get a brain and look at real evidence.

Jeffrey Dahmer tortured animals for years, and he turned out fine.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:20 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

Here you go again with your claim of psychic powers.

You really think he didn't kill her or her kid because he didn't have a gun? Is that what you're going with here? Most likely he didn't want to kill her, he wanted her to suffer.

That must be why he only stabbed her twelve times.


And strangely, not in the heart or throat, the two places everyone knows to cut if you want someone dead. Give up.. you're not psychic so stop pretending you are. Hmm.. did he light a cat on fire because he wanted it dead.. or did he probably enjoy the suffering? Do people tend to follow patterns? Logic, how does it work?
 
2013-01-19 12:12:26 AM  
Ouch. Originality, ZERO.  But I still laughed and didn't know the reference, so you get a 1 for "creative regurgitation."

thisisyourbrainonFark:
jonjr215: Headline is a winner!  Well done...

Ahem.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 627x480]
/hot like Michelle Pfeiffer
 
2013-01-19 12:13:32 AM  

Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?


Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.
 
2013-01-19 12:13:34 AM  

atomicmask: Farking Canuck: atomicmask: And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

So you're position is that, as sad as her injuries are, this is not a better result than 20 children and 6 adults dead. And therefore knifes should be covered by the same regulations as guns.

Really?

No, my position is that PSYCHOPATHS are the cause of both events, not GUNS or KNIVES. A gun may make killing easier, but it makes DEFENSE easier also. It gives someone a chance to save themselves, instead of making sure that strength and youth are the deciding factors in life or death. Again no one has addressed how a 80 year old grandma is supposed to fight off a full grown man intent on slitting her throat without a gun.. With a gun she could again, be on equal grounds with the attacker. Without one it is her strength and speed vs the attackers..and she will lose everytime.


So you are saying granny is going to be unable to get a license for a self defense weapon under the proposed legislation? Really??

From what I am reading, granny is just going to have to pass a background check. Does your granny have such a sordid past that she cannot get something for home defense? Or are you saying that she needs an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine??

Because this is what you are defending.
 
2013-01-19 12:14:05 AM  

MrHappyRotter: atomicmask: Farking Canuck: atomicmask: And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

So you're position is that, as sad as her injuries are, this is not a better result than 20 children and 6 adults dead. And therefore knifes should be covered by the same regulations as guns.

Really?

No, my position is that PSYCHOPATHS are the cause of both events, not GUNS or KNIVES. A gun may make killing easier, but it makes DEFENSE easier also. It gives someone a chance to save themselves, instead of making sure that strength and youth are the deciding factors in life or death. Again no one has addressed how a 80 year old grandma is supposed to fight off a full grown man intent on slitting her throat without a gun.. With a gun she could again, be on equal grounds with the attacker. Without one it is her strength and speed vs the attackers..and she will lose everytime.

I've seen 80 year old women paying for their groceries, and I'm here to say that an attacker would have time to brush his teeth, iron his clothes, get his hair colored, grab a bite to eat and carve granny into itty bitty pieces of meat before she'd ever have a chance whip out a gun and shoot him.


Link

Yeah, it never ever happens...

Care to explain how she would have defended herself from 4 attackers in said news story without a pistol?
 
2013-01-19 12:14:21 AM  

atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: if SHE had possessed a weapon, her life might have NEVER been in danger..

Or this lunatic stabs her anyway AND NOW HE'S GOT A GUN.

"Haynes allegedly rushed upon Kerri Dalton, 29, with no warning as she pushed her son's stroller through the store"

What's your thinking here? She's pushing a stroller with gun in her hand? She's shooting anyone who gets within three feet of her?

Here's the biggest problem. Most people are irresponsible assholes who do enough damage already. Guns just increase that capability.

Yeah everyone is just an irresponsible asshole, thats why we have a population of around 50,000 in the united states because everyone is just constantly murdering one another!

Or you are a hyper emotional ass.

here is a news flash, you are not the only capable sane person in the world. The majority of people are very rational, calm, polite, and non-violent. The fact that you view many of your neighors as frothing at the mouth psychopaths says more about your mental instability then theirs.

Again your what if is not superior or more logical then mine. Again if she had the possibility of defense, it is still a better chance to not be stabbed to death then the complete lack of possibility of defense...and this article is proof of what would and DID happen without a gun.

Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.


*
Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...
 
2013-01-19 12:14:21 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 500x330]

The victim failed this basic rule. That aside, the goblin should never have been out. The judge that let him out should hang as well.


Idiots cling to the false life of the media. Like you have done here...way to cling instead of knowing or having your own thoughts.
 
2013-01-19 12:14:27 AM  

atomicmask: She is stabbed once, maybe 2-3 times before she realizes what is happens, another few times before she gets her gun out, and then the assault ends with her emptying her firearm into the gut of said attacker.


I don't think you've ever been stabbed and I'm starting to think you've never fired a weapon in your life.
 
2013-01-19 12:15:00 AM  

atomicmask: MrHappyRotter: atomicmask: Farking Canuck: atomicmask: And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

So you're position is that, as sad as her injuries are, this is not a better result than 20 children and 6 adults dead. And therefore knifes should be covered by the same regulations as guns.

Really?

No, my position is that PSYCHOPATHS are the cause of both events, not GUNS or KNIVES. A gun may make killing easier, but it makes DEFENSE easier also. It gives someone a chance to save themselves, instead of making sure that strength and youth are the deciding factors in life or death. Again no one has addressed how a 80 year old grandma is supposed to fight off a full grown man intent on slitting her throat without a gun.. With a gun she could again, be on equal grounds with the attacker. Without one it is her strength and speed vs the attackers..and she will lose everytime.

I've seen 80 year old women paying for their groceries, and I'm here to say that an attacker would have time to brush his teeth, iron his clothes, get his hair colored, grab a bite to eat and carve granny into itty bitty pieces of meat before she'd ever have a chance whip out a gun and shoot him.

Link

Yeah, it never ever happens...

Care to explain how she would have defended herself from 4 attackers in said news story without a pistol?


Yes.
 
2013-01-19 12:15:45 AM  

Indubitably: To repeat honestly


E not in P

So I e'd anyway.
 
2013-01-19 12:15:59 AM  

whatshisname: Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?

Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.


and....you show here....where it has worked? Moron?
 
2013-01-19 12:16:12 AM  

whatshisname: Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?

Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.


Their demographics are also far different than ours. But just keep going with confirmation bias for your decision making, because guns are scary.
 
2013-01-19 12:16:46 AM  

atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: if SHE had possessed a weapon, her life might have NEVER been in danger..

Or this lunatic stabs her anyway AND NOW HE'S GOT A GUN.

"Haynes allegedly rushed upon Kerri Dalton, 29, with no warning as she pushed her son's stroller through the store"

What's your thinking here? She's pushing a stroller with gun in her hand? She's shooting anyone who gets within three feet of her?

Here's the biggest problem. Most people are irresponsible assholes who do enough damage already. Guns just increase that capability.

Yeah everyone is just an irresponsible asshole, thats why we have a population of around 50,000 in the united states because everyone is just constantly murdering one another!

Or you are a hyper emotional ass.

here is a news flash, you are not the only capable sane person in the world. The majority of people are very rational, calm, polite, and non-violent. The fact that you view many of your neighors as frothing at the mouth psychopaths says more about your mental instability then theirs.

Again your what if is not superior or more logical then mine. Again if she had the possibility of defense, it is still a better chance to not be stabbed to death then the complete lack of possibility of defense...and this article is proof of what would and DID happen without a gun.

Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.


Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...
 
2013-01-19 12:17:13 AM  

Gestankfaust: whatshisname: Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?

Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.

and....you show here....where it has worked? Moron?


Australia, the UK....
 
2013-01-19 12:18:03 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Their demographics are also far different than ours.


What do demographics have to do with it?
 
2013-01-19 12:18:14 AM  

dopekitty74: Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...


It's going to be awesome when we find out he had a gun anyway.
 
2013-01-19 12:18:14 AM  

dopekitty74: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: atomicmask: if SHE had possessed a weapon, her life might have NEVER been in danger..

Or this lunatic stabs her anyway AND NOW HE'S GOT A GUN.

"Haynes allegedly rushed upon Kerri Dalton, 29, with no warning as she pushed her son's stroller through the store"

What's your thinking here? She's pushing a stroller with gun in her hand? She's shooting anyone who gets within three feet of her?

Here's the biggest problem. Most people are irresponsible assholes who do enough damage already. Guns just increase that capability.

Yeah everyone is just an irresponsible asshole, thats why we have a population of around 50,000 in the united states because everyone is just constantly murdering one another!

Or you are a hyper emotional ass.

here is a news flash, you are not the only capable sane person in the world. The majority of people are very rational, calm, polite, and non-violent. The fact that you view many of your neighors as frothing at the mouth psychopaths says more about your mental instability then theirs.

Again your what if is not superior or more logical then mine. Again if she had the possibility of defense, it is still a better chance to not be stabbed to death then the complete lack of possibility of defense...and this article is proof of what would and DID happen without a gun.

Yup. She's alive and her kid was unharmed.

And sliced up and stuck with two holes in her lungs with a long painful recovery.

Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...


Or alive, with no cuts, and with a shot psychopath..

This is not an either or situation, it has several outcomes, the better outcomes however, come with possession of a firearm.
 
2013-01-19 12:19:19 AM  
civilservant.files.wordpress.com

At least he didn't use a spoon.
 
2013-01-19 12:19:23 AM  
"If I had a son, he'd look like Tyrick," Obama said. "When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids."

www.calwatchdog.com

www.hangthebankers.com

Well he does like to set things on fire doesn't he.
 
2013-01-19 12:19:52 AM  
I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-01-19 12:20:23 AM  

ciberido: mjoven1975: Obama needs to ban all knives immediately. I don't care if we have to cut meat with a spoon, we need to get dangerous knives off our streets!

[lifeissweet16.files.wordpress.com image 460x300]
That's even worse, because it's dull, you idiot!


Bugger, really should check before posting!
 
2013-01-19 12:20:42 AM  

whatshisname: 5x more in the US. Why?


The Candians are poor shots.
 
2013-01-19 12:22:16 AM  

atomicmask: Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...

Or alive, with no cuts, and with a shot psychopath..

This is not an either or situation, it has several outcomes, the better outcomes however, come with possession of a firearm.


So could worse ones. For example her firing wildly in a frightened panic and killing or wounding bystanders.
 
2013-01-19 12:22:38 AM  

Nothing To See Here: Clean up on Aisle 12


Your comment wasn't that funny. I'll try to parse it.

On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the lease funny), I give it a 2.

For trying to sound funny, on a scale of one to ten (one being amateurish and ten being right on cue), I give you a 2.5.
 
2013-01-19 12:22:55 AM  

MrHappyRotter: I'll just leave this here.


Yeah so? People also tend to buy guns when they feel their life is in danger. Correlation != causation.
 
2013-01-19 12:23:08 AM  
By the way, can someone explain to me how it is that Americans seem to think their own personal safety and liberty is threatened if they don't guns, whereas Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, ... just about everyone else who lives in other stable democracies ... don't feel the same need?

Is it because Americans are pussies?
 
2013-01-19 12:23:48 AM  

fusillade762: atomicmask: Better than dead with NO HOPE of recovery...

Or alive, with no cuts, and with a shot psychopath..

This is not an either or situation, it has several outcomes, the better outcomes however, come with possession of a firearm.

So could worse ones. For example her firing wildly in a frightened panic and killing or wounding bystanders.


Like her own child.
 
2013-01-19 12:24:08 AM  

ansius: By the way, can someone explain to me how it is that Americans seem to think their own personal safety and liberty is threatened if they don't guns, whereas Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, ... just about everyone else who lives in other stable democracies ... don't feel the same need?

Is it because Americans are pussies?


Yes, we're pussies. Feel better? fark off troll.
 
2013-01-19 12:24:30 AM  

LtDarkstar: Bloodbath and Beyond is the name of a Everquest 2 guild, I loved that name when I first saw it! Well played!


I used to see them in WoW too. first thing I thought of.
 
2013-01-19 12:24:53 AM  

atomicmask: You are the type of twat that thinks being alive is equal to living...arn't you?


Nope. It's L-I-V-I-N

portabletv-media.s3.amazonaws.com
/hot like Ms. Posey
 
2013-01-19 12:26:12 AM  
WHY IS THIS A GUN THREAD?

The dude lit a cat on fire. He should have been on death row for that, not loitering around a shopping center.
 
2013-01-19 12:26:21 AM  

whatshisname: Gestankfaust: whatshisname: Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?

Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.

and....you show here....where it has worked? Moron?

Australia, the UK....


Pardon...whilst I laugh
 
2013-01-19 12:26:32 AM  

TOSViolation: doglover: Back in December, Haynes was charged with animal cruelty for setting a cat on fire

And people doubt me when I say you should just hang people who are cruel to animals. Anyone who can abuse an animal is evil and prefers helpless victims. They will always escalate their cruelty. We don't need them.

That is complete CRAP, you ignorant DUMBASS!

You need to get a brain and look at real evidence.

Jeffrey Dahmer tortured animals for years, and he turned out fine.


While it is true that most serial killers were abusive to animals as children, most people who have ever been abusive to an animal as a child don't turn out to be serial killers. While the bastard in TFA does not help me make my case, it is a common misconception, mostly made by people who are so socially inept that they prefer the companionship of animals to people, that anyone who abuses an animal will kill people.
 
2013-01-19 12:26:33 AM  
Oh. This quickly became a gun control thread.

/I'm out
 
2013-01-19 12:28:27 AM  

Gestankfaust: whatshisname: Gestankfaust: whatshisname: Gestankfaust: Weapon control? Seriously? Has this ever worked? Anywhere?!?!?

Yes. See: The rest of the Western world, where mass shootings happen every few years, rather than every Tuesday at 3pm.

and....you show here....where it has worked? Moron?

Australia, the UK....

Pardon...whilst I laugh


Perhaps.
If you'd like to explain why you're laughing.
 
2013-01-19 12:28:51 AM  
If we had stricter gun control this would never have happened...

Seriously though, why was this animal back on the street after setting fire to a cat? Is that not a sure fire sign of mental illness right there?
 
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