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(Think Progress)   Somebody in North Carolina bought a handful of books about Muslims. This outrage shall not stand   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 283
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2013-01-18 05:14:05 PM
The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I think I'd like to hear from Rep. Ellison on that one.
 
2013-01-18 05:31:26 PM
"I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Because if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think of North Carolina, its discrimination against Christians.
 
2013-01-18 05:53:03 PM

gilgigamesh: "I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Because if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think of North Carolina, its discrimination against Christians.


I would like to point to exhibit A.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_Library

I live down the road and I oppress then every chance I get. So far it's not working
 
2013-01-18 05:57:02 PM
I'm calmer than you are, subs.

/calmer than you are
 
2013-01-18 05:59:50 PM
Seems they'd be all for it, "know thy enemy" and whatnot.
 
2013-01-18 06:25:38 PM
I'd venture a guess that in order to have an equal number of Christian books, they'd have to get rid of a lot of Christian books.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:37 PM
"I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said.

1.bp.blogspot.com

It always amazes me how insecure some Christians are about their faith.
 
2013-01-18 06:31:04 PM
Isn't the whole point and foundation of Christianity the fact that they are supposed to be treated unfairly?  Isn't that what their whole martyr complex is about in the first place?
 
2013-01-18 06:35:09 PM
"If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Like a true Republican, he can't think two steps ahead of himself.  I would love to see an all conservative chess tournament
 
2013-01-18 06:43:46 PM
www.worldsocialism.org

They tried to warn us!
 
2013-01-18 06:47:08 PM
"I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."


These, of course, being the only religions in the world, that sounds perfectly fair.
 
2013-01-18 07:01:40 PM
Still, Jones' protests are unlikely to harm his standing in the eyes of constituents. In a WITN web poll, only 14 percent of respondents thought the college should accept the grant, compared to 62 percent opposed.

So, can we just give most of NC to SC, let them do that "Exodus" thing, and say "good riddens"?
 
2013-01-18 07:06:06 PM
"I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Hey f*cktard: 

I live your damn district, and assure you: every single bookstore, library, newsstand, yardsale, and bookmobile is  crawlingwith Christian 'literature' like  Left Behindand whatever POS screed Huckabee has published of late. We are  drowningin Judeo-Christian works. Buying 5 books on Islam won't break the bank, or make anything other than a token section that no one will ever use. So go blow yourself.

Sincerely,

whistleridge
 
2013-01-18 07:08:00 PM
I would have donated books if they had just asked, then this would be so much of an issue.  Why, I have a large box of Gideon Qurans.
 
2013-01-18 07:09:47 PM
Dear Republicans:  OOGA BOOGA BOOGA!!1!Vote for me, y'all!

And another Republican secures reelection from his constituency of frightened, stupid FOXtards.
 
2013-01-18 07:14:56 PM
The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

Oh, fark you, Congressman.  We didn't vote the first Muslim into Congress so you can use him as a wimpy-ass shield for your blatant, small-minded bigotry.
 
2013-01-18 07:24:55 PM
This will never hold up in a court of law, because most of the jurors will be unfamiliar with the concept of books.

/NC native.
//Pretty state, but set your watches back 200 years.
 
2013-01-18 07:27:05 PM

sammyk: gilgigamesh: "I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Because if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think of North Carolina, its discrimination against Christians.

I would like to point to exhibit A.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_Library

I live down the road and I oppress then every chance I get. So far it's not working


Ask the librarian if they have any books on ceramics?

/Dewey Decimal 666
//mom was a librarian
 
2013-01-18 07:28:19 PM

Lumpmoose: The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

Oh, fark you, Congressman.  We didn't vote the first Muslim into Congress so you can use him as a wimpy-ass shield for your blatant, small-minded bigotry.


t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-18 07:52:02 PM

Diogenes: The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I think I'd like to hear from Rep. Ellison on that one.


Jones followed up with "Don't worry, he's one of the good ones."
 
2013-01-18 07:55:58 PM
Dear Mr. Jones,

If your religion can't withstand the overwhelming on-slot of 25 books (and a DVD) in some POS community college, maybe it's not worth defending. Just sayin'.

sno man

P.S. Pick one and read it, you may learn something... No really, I am serious.
 
2013-01-18 07:56:19 PM

RedPhoenix122: Diogenes: The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I think I'd like to hear from Rep. Ellison on that one.

Jones followed up with "Don't worry, he's one of the good ones."


"In fact, we just invited him down for some BBQ.  Ribs, pulled pork.  The works"
 
2013-01-18 08:09:23 PM

I_Am_Weasel: RedPhoenix122: Diogenes: The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I think I'd like to hear from Rep. Ellison on that one.

Jones followed up with "Don't worry, he's one of the good ones."

"In fact, we just invited him down for some BBQ.  Ribs, pulled pork.  The works"


nice, nearly subtle, but nice.
 
2013-01-18 08:15:04 PM
The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I can't believe he actually tried to pull the 'i'm not racist, I have a muslim friend' routine...
 
2013-01-18 08:15:12 PM
"I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Why do I have a feeling that this isn't really a problem?
 
2013-01-18 08:18:05 PM

gilgigamesh: "I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Because if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think of North Carolina, its discrimination against Christians.


UNC Chapel Hill Library:
Christianity: 32,000+
Link

Islam: ~14,800
Link

Less than half. Those poor oppressed North Carolinians.....
 
2013-01-18 08:18:10 PM

I_Am_Weasel: RedPhoenix122: Diogenes: The North Carolina Republican insisted he has nothing against Muslims. "Keith Ellison from Minnesota is a friend of mine and he's a Muslim," Jones said.

I think I'd like to hear from Rep. Ellison on that one.

Jones followed up with "Don't worry, he's one of the good ones."

"In fact, we just invited him down for some BBQ.  Ribs, pulled pork.  The works"


To be fair, the idea that somebody might turn down a plate of barbecue is utterly incomprehensible to anyone from North Carolina, regardless of how enlightened they are socially and politically.

\North Carolina Barbecue is Best Carolina Barbecue
 
2013-01-18 08:21:21 PM
Jones told WITN he wrote a letter in response to the grant to a local Christian organization, asking for them to provide an equal number of Judeo-Christian items to offset the new Muslim culture books in the library's collection.

That's awesome. So the library should count how many Christian-Ju-ju-judeo books they already have, and use those funds to buy a matching number of Islamic books.
 
2013-01-18 08:25:34 PM
Lessee if I get this right:
- Grant was given to college library to buy books
- College decides to buy books that they didn't think they had enough of
- Books are read by people to find out about things they didn't know before
- Congresscritter objects to book purchase because those books aren't about his particular brand of religious fanaticism
- North Carolina.

Yup, I'm done.
 
2013-01-18 08:27:25 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: This will never hold up in a court of law, because most of the jurors will be unfamiliar with the concept of books.

/NC native.
//Pretty state, but set your watches back 200 years.


Eh, depends where you live. Raleigh, Charlotte and Greensboro are alright. Winston's kind of Stepford-esque in some places but the presence of NCSA helps weird it up nicely. Out in the county, though? Oh yeah.
 
2013-01-18 08:28:41 PM
Still, Jones' protests are unlikely to harm his standing in the eyes of constituents. In a WITN web poll, only 14 percent of respondents thought the college should accept the grant, compared to 62 percent opposed.

As I am from North Carolina and I have "met" Walter Jones (IE, I've spoken to him for 2 minutes in a crowd of hundreds) I'm going to chime in here. You knew I would anyway.

I'm part of the 62%

They should not be buying books about Muslim Culture, nor Christian Culture, nor any other religious culture. As religion in almost all forms is a poison with Islam being the most toxic brand of said poison.

Science books is what this state needs. If that's too much to ask for literature would be fine too. In fact, almost anything would be better.
 
2013-01-18 08:29:57 PM
 Jones protested that the money was unfairly benefiting Muslims and harming Christians, as he explained in a local TV interview.

In all seriousness, how many books on Christianity do you suppose that library has. 500?
 
2013-01-18 08:30:40 PM
I hate living in this state.
 
2013-01-18 08:33:00 PM
farking idiot.

One of the goals of a Librarian is to serve the needs of the user base. Since it's in North Carolina I'd presume Chrisitanity is already well covered. Although I doubt it would be well covered enough to include "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves, a title that would just put a Republican into apoplectic shock if they even heard the title.

/Yes, it's on my personal shelf.
//Heretical book dealer.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:07 PM

randomjsa: They should not be buying books about Muslim Culture, nor Christian Culture, nor any other religious culture. As religion in almost all forms is a poison with Islam being the most toxic brand of said poison.


I know you're a dumbass right wing troll, but did it ever occur to you that the books could be about the current state of Muslim culture and what's wrong with it? You DO realize that a book about Muslim culture isn't necessary a copy of the Koran, right?
 
2013-01-18 08:40:22 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I know you're a dumbass right wing troll, but did it ever occur to you that the books could be about the current state of Muslim culture and what's wrong with it? You DO realize that a book about Muslim culture isn't necessary a copy of the Koran, right?


Troll... You keep using that word...

But really, you're going to insult my intelligence then do something as silly as actually think they're going to get 25 books and a DVD on "Muslim Culture" and it be anything other than neutral or supportive? Muslim culture, like Christian culture, is defined by its religious affiliation. If these were books about Middle Eastern cultures, sure, but Muslim culture is pretty specific. As stated, almost all religion is poison, and as such Muslim or Christian culture are by definition... Poisoned cultures.
 
2013-01-18 08:43:20 PM
media.washingtonpost.com
DERPTM
 
2013-01-18 08:43:38 PM
Can't be havin' no book learnin' here. Tain't right! Da kids will get funny ideas.
 
2013-01-18 08:43:50 PM

I_Am_Weasel: I would have donated books if they had just asked, then this would be so much of an issue.  Why, I have a large box of Gideon Qurans.


Years ago, my mother gave me a bullet...a bullet, and I put it in my breast pocket. Two years after that, I was walking down the street, when a berserk evangelist heaved a Gideon bible out a hotel room window, hitting me in the chest. That bible would have gone through my heart if it wasn't for the bullet.
 
2013-01-18 08:46:04 PM

whistleridge: "I want to treat it fairly and I think too many times the Christian faith is not treated fairly," Jones said. "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Hey f*cktard: 

I live your damn district, and assure you: every single bookstore, library, newsstand, yardsale, and bookmobile is  crawlingwith Christian 'literature' like  Left Behindand whatever POS screed Huckabee has published of late. We are  drowningin Judeo-Christian works. Buying 5 books on Islam won't break the bank, or make anything other than a token section that no one will ever use. So go blow yourself.

Sincerely,

whistleridge


Wilson, north of Tarboro St. here. I was in his district all of my voting life until the redistricting this summer. Now I'm in George Holding's district. Jones is a Tea Party Caucus-joining, french fry-renaming wankstain - but at least he was willing to say that we farked up big-time invading Iraq in 2005 well before any other Congressional Republican had the balls to do so. Holding looks like your run-of-the-mill Teahadist who is at home with the other worthless pieces of shiat like Myrick and Foxx.

I consider G.K. Butterfield my Congressman anyway; everytime I talk to his local office they take the time to listen to me and he respresents my interests a hell of a lot better than Jones or Holding.

/fark the NC Democratic party for being incompetent and corrupt, but fark the NC Republican party for being evil, hateful, ignorant, AND incompetent and corrupt.
 
2013-01-18 08:48:21 PM

randomjsa: Satanic_Hamster: I know you're a dumbass right wing troll, but did it ever occur to you that the books could be about the current state of Muslim culture and what's wrong with it? You DO realize that a book about Muslim culture isn't necessary a copy of the Koran, right?

Troll... You keep using that word...

But really, you're going to insult my intelligence then do something as silly as actually think they're going to get 25 books and a DVD on "Muslim Culture" and it be anything other than neutral or supportive? Muslim culture, like Christian culture, is defined by its religious affiliation. If these were books about Middle Eastern cultures, sure, but Muslim culture is pretty specific. As stated, almost all religion is poison, and as such Muslim or Christian culture are by definition... Poisoned cultures.


I'm sure you're equally outraged by UNC Chapel Hill Library's 32,000+ books on Christianity (linked above).
 
2013-01-18 08:49:27 PM

SnakeLee: "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Like a true Republican, he can't think two steps ahead of himself.  I would love to see an all conservative chess tournament


It'll be the shortest-and most entertaining-the history of the game.
 
2013-01-18 08:50:11 PM
randomjsa:
But really, you're going to insult my intelligence then do something as silly as actually think they're going to get 25 books and a DVD on "Muslim Culture" and it be anything other than neutral or supportive? Muslim culture, like Christian culture, is defined by its religious affiliation. If these were books about Middle Eastern cultures, sure, but Muslim culture is pretty specific. As stated, almost all religion is poison, and as such Muslim or Christian culture are by definition... Poisoned cultures.

I don't like blanket condemnations.  not even of muslim or christian histories.  we SHOULD study them, otherwise how will we learn from their mistakes?
 
2013-01-18 08:50:14 PM

Apos: SnakeLee: "If they want to have book about the Muslim's faith, let's have equal number of books about Judeo-Christian [faith]."

Like a true Republican, he can't think two steps ahead of himself.  I would love to see an all conservative chess tournament

It'll be the shortest-and most entertaining-in the history of the game.



Fixed
 
2013-01-18 08:52:58 PM

HighOnCraic: I'm sure you're equally outraged by UNC Chapel Hill Library's 32,000+ books on Christianity (linked above).


You're absolutely right. I am disgusted by the fact that there are 32,000 books on the Christian religion at Chapel Hill when they could be 32,000 books on almost any subject. In case you missed it, I said most religion is poison, that includes Christianity. Islam is simply the worst of the bunch, Christianity isn't quite as bad, but dammit it tries.
 
2013-01-18 08:53:33 PM

dj_bigbird: Seems they'd be all for it, "know thy enemy" and whatnot.


The GOP isn't much for knowing. Gets in the way of their gut.
 
2013-01-18 08:54:25 PM
25 books and a DVD purchased through the community college bookstore = $12,000.00
opportunity to exploit and enrage the faux = priceless
 
2013-01-18 08:56:30 PM
Handful of books? They must be really small books or this guy has huge hands.
 
2013-01-18 08:58:10 PM

randomjsa: HighOnCraic: I'm sure you're equally outraged by UNC Chapel Hill Library's 32,000+ books on Christianity (linked above).

You're absolutely right. I am disgusted by the fact that there are 32,000 books on the Christian religion at Chapel Hill when they could be 32,000 books on almost any subject. In case you missed it, I said most religion is poison, that includes Christianity. Islam is simply the worst of the bunch, Christianity isn't quite as bad, but dammit it tries.


Your outrage amuses me.
 
2013-01-18 09:07:11 PM

HighOnCraic: randomjsa: HighOnCraic: I'm sure you're equally outraged by UNC Chapel Hill Library's 32,000+ books on Christianity (linked above).

You're absolutely right. I am disgusted by the fact that there are 32,000 books on the Christian religion at Chapel Hill when they could be 32,000 books on almost any subject. In case you missed it, I said most religion is poison, that includes Christianity. Islam is simply the worst of the bunch, Christianity isn't quite as bad, but dammit it tries.

Your outrage amuses me.


I don't think he really understands the purpose of a library.
 
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