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2013-01-18 05:46:02 PM
I'm surprised she stayed in Boise for the winter.

When it gets cold, most old folks come down here to Arizona to wreck their cars.
 
2013-01-18 06:28:51 PM
Well, at least the bus didn't end up in a swimming pool. So there's that.
 
2013-01-18 06:51:56 PM
Ban school buses!

Ban Toyota Camry's!

Ban old women drivers!


Ban Idaho!
 
2013-01-18 07:07:34 PM
When will these murder vehicles be taken off the streets?!
 
2013-01-18 07:08:05 PM
I see them everywhere. The roads are now clear, but them old people drive 15 miles under the speed limit because they are 6 feet near snow on the side of the road.
 
2013-01-18 07:14:18 PM
Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.
 
2013-01-18 07:20:31 PM

SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.


I thought it was always the 2C drivers?
 
2013-01-18 07:22:57 PM

Aeon Rising: When will these murder vehicles be taken off the streets?!



www.valleybuslines.ca


How to tell an "Assault Bus" from a regular bus
* Note high-capacity magazine
 
2013-01-18 07:24:34 PM

Amos Quito: Ban Idaho!


I'm on board with this.
 
2013-01-18 07:26:57 PM

Aeon Rising: When will these murder vehicles be taken off the streets?!


If only those kids had their own vehicle... oh wait.
 
2013-01-18 07:29:51 PM

Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?


This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.
 
2013-01-18 07:32:20 PM
I think it's important to understand that if there happened to be another law abiding citizen nearby driving a legally obtained Toyota Camry, this senseless tragedy could have been prevented. Drivers hit school buses, not Camrys. Taking away the right of decent citizens to legally obtain Camrys puts our children in greater peril since that would mean that eye test failing septuagenarians would be the only ones with them. If anything, there should be a motorcade of Camrys accompanying all school buses nationwide.
 
2013-01-18 07:37:48 PM

aaronius: Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?

This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.


And A1. Oh, and Payetters. Yeah, fark this state...
 
2013-01-18 07:38:39 PM
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2013-01-18 07:39:24 PM
It's funny to me seeing my relative age, because I saw them drive when they were young, and they drove like maniacs. Now that they are 60 years old or above, they drive like scaredy cats and won't even drive on the highways. As old people they drive worse because they drive scared.
 
2013-01-18 07:39:28 PM
Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?
 
2013-01-18 07:45:55 PM
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Approves.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:03 PM

jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?


As far as I know, it's mainly money at this point. It would cost too much to retrofit buses with seatbelts now.

I don't know why they didn't make them with seatbelts in the first place, though. If nothing else, it teaches kids that seatbelts are arbitrary and stupid; "If they were so safe, we'd have to wear them on the bus, right?"
 
2013-01-18 08:10:32 PM

jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?


I lack citation, but I was always under the impression that it was because kids hit each other with them.
 
2013-01-18 08:10:54 PM

Charlie Chingas: aaronius: Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?

This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.

And A1. Oh, and Payetters. Yeah, fark this state...


Fark it all! I guess I can't whine about other county bad drivers. I drove the wrong way down one of the many one way streets in Boise last night... ("why is this guy driving in my lane? Oh snap!")
 
2013-01-18 08:11:26 PM
"These are kids and we want to make sure we generate as much revenue from them as we can.
The hospitals, the overtime, everyone makes out from these little guys. Think of the ambulance bills!
It's gonna be great."

/NFTA
 
2013-01-18 08:28:53 PM

SpudMuffin208: Charlie Chingas: aaronius: Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?

This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.

And A1. Oh, and Payetters. Yeah, fark this state...

Fark it all! I guess I can't whine about other county bad drivers. I drove the wrong way down one of the many one way streets in Boise last night... ("why is this guy driving in my lane? Oh snap!")


I see that all the time on 6th and Idaho. One day last summer I saw 3 different cars go the wrong way up 6th street within the course of like 2 hours. I don't know what's so tough about the one-way grid, but whatever.
 
2013-01-18 08:29:32 PM

BeSerious: "These are kids and we want to make sure we generate as much revenue from them as we can.
The hospitals, the overtime, everyone makes out from these little guys. Think of the ambulance bills!
It's gonna be great."
/NFTA


Whatever. It's on old ladies dime.
 
2013-01-18 08:38:50 PM

jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?


With all the recent charter bus crashes in the news recently they soon will.

Feds finalizing new rules that include bus seat belts
 
2013-01-18 09:02:04 PM

fusillade762: jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?

With all the recent charter bus crashes in the news recently they soon will.

Feds finalizing new rules that include bus seat belts


They're talking about COMMERCIAL BUSES.

No mention made their of school buses - none whatsoever.

Good to know that our snowflakes will remain free to float, roll and tumble
 
2013-01-18 09:14:05 PM

kidsizedcoffin: jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?

I lack citation, but I was always under the impression that it was because kids hit each other with them.


That, and the delays that would be caused by the driver making sure everyone is buckled in at every stop before the bus moves.

Also, school buses are such overwhelmingly safe vehicles compared to passenger cars that the payoff in terms of lives saved per dollar spent would be minimal.
 
2013-01-18 09:34:10 PM

aaronius: SpudMuffin208: Charlie Chingas: aaronius: Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?

This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.

And A1. Oh, and Payetters. Yeah, fark this state...

Fark it all! I guess I can't whine about other county bad drivers. I drove the wrong way down one of the many one way streets in Boise last night... ("why is this guy driving in my lane? Oh snap!")

I see that all the time on 6th and Idaho. One day last summer I saw 3 different cars go the wrong way up 6th street within the course of like 2 hours. I don't know what's so tough about the one-way grid, but whatever.


I've done that. Sober. Recently. And I've lived here 20 years.
 
2013-01-18 09:45:15 PM

revrendjim: I see that all the time on 6th and Idaho. One day last summer I saw 3 different cars go the wrong way up 6th street within the course of like 2 hours. I don't know what's so tough about the one-way grid, but whatever.

I've done that. Sober. Recently. And I've lived here 20 years.


You might have been one of the people I yelled at to not turn that direction. The best one, though, is the car that drove almost to the capitol on 6th the wrong way. They didn't figure it out in the first couple blocks that there were no lights and that all the parked cars were facing the other direction. I nearly facepalmed myself into unconsciousness that day.
 
2013-01-18 09:55:33 PM

Amos Quito: fusillade762: jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?

With all the recent charter bus crashes in the news recently they soon will.

Feds finalizing new rules that include bus seat belts

They're talking about COMMERCIAL BUSES.

No mention made their of school buses - none whatsoever.

Good to know that our snowflakes will remain free to float, roll and tumble


Ah, my bad. Though I have heard there's some push at the state level for putting them in school buses. Apparently it costs $10-15,000 per bus, though, so I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.
 
2013-01-18 10:09:21 PM
I was sure this was going to be about the school bus crash we saw this morning. In that case it was the bus driver at fault.

We went past the accident while driving the kids the school. The victims car was really messed up & we saw the fire department cutting open the car to get the driver out. I'm surprised to hear the victims injuries were not life threatening.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/jan/18/crash-involving-school-bus -c amas-sends-one-hospita/
 
2013-01-18 11:03:49 PM

SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.


2C has everybody else beaten for sheer stupidity.

/1A
//drives to Emmett nearly every week
 
2013-01-18 11:11:57 PM
..jarring the students who mostly received "bumps and bruises."

Such a tragedy! They get bumps and bruises every day on the playground. Oh wait, I forgot, their pussified parents have removed anything harmful or fun from the playground.
 
2013-01-18 11:35:58 PM

revrendjim: aaronius: SpudMuffin208: Charlie Chingas: aaronius: Charlie Chingas: SpudMuffin208: Drove past this accident today. If you know anything about Boise, the drivers from Emmett (like this lady) are the dumbest drivers in the whole state. Even the old farts have no fear.

I thought it was always the 2C drivers?

This, with a side of Twin Falls. fark this state, seriously.

And A1. Oh, and Payetters. Yeah, fark this state...

Fark it all! I guess I can't whine about other county bad drivers. I drove the wrong way down one of the many one way streets in Boise last night... ("why is this guy driving in my lane? Oh snap!")

I see that all the time on 6th and Idaho. One day last summer I saw 3 different cars go the wrong way up 6th street within the course of like 2 hours. I don't know what's so tough about the one-way grid, but whatever.

I've done that. Sober. Recently. And I've lived here 20 years.


Haha yup i was very sober last night. It was going down 8th street at the Co op and i had no clue 2 way ended.
 
2013-01-18 11:38:02 PM

hlehmann: ..jarring the students who mostly received "bumps and bruises."

Such a tragedy! They get bumps and bruises every day on the playground. Oh wait, I forgot, their pussified parents have removed anything harmful or fun from the playground.


Also there's no more playground time because of No Child Left Behind
 
2013-01-19 08:03:26 AM
Get these old people off the farking road already. The only thing dumber than a 70, 80 or 90 year-old driving a car is a 70, 80 or 90 year-old flying an airplane.

/Just stop
 
2013-01-19 08:54:45 AM

jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?


Seat belts don't increase safety in a school bus as much as they do they do in cars. This is due to the design of buses (speed, height, weight, seat compartmentalization, etc).

They also make evacuating buses (e.g. In a fire) much more difficult.

By far, the most dangerous part of riding a school bus is getting off and on (traffic).

Etc... (Former bus engineer)
 
2013-01-19 09:15:29 AM

elkboy: They also make evacuating buses (e.g. In a fire) much more difficult.


This is the one I've hear. Imagine the bus being on fire and a bunch of 6 or 7 year-olds strapped in and freaking out. I don't think they'd be mentally equipped to stay calm and unbuckle themselves.
 
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2013-01-19 01:47:56 PM

Chinchillazilla: jtown: Can someone remind me why school buses don't have seat belts?

As far as I know, it's mainly money at this point. It would cost too much to retrofit buses with seatbelts now.

I don't know why they didn't make them with seatbelts in the first place, though. If nothing else, it teaches kids that seatbelts are arbitrary and stupid; "If they were so safe, we'd have to wear them on the bus, right?"


As I understand it, it's a lot about the mass of the vehicle versus the mass of the other vehicle, and another part statistics. The kids on the bus are fairly safe without seatbelts because the bus is heavy enough that in the vast majority of crashes, the bus only slightly deflects direction or position. A car or a light truck slamming into the bus at even fairly high speed doesn't put much force on the bus. As to the statistics side, certainly a heavy vehicle, like medium or heavy truck or a bus could affect the bus due to to similar or greater mass, but those accidents are extraordinarily rare, so the hassles that go along with protecting against those kinds of wrecks are not worthwhile.

I was surprised by how little damage we see on the car. It looks to me like she tried to swerve around the bus to her right and clipped it somehow. The school district probably took kids to the hospital since it's easier to appease parents by spending a little money on what amount to checkups than to not and find that one kid got hurt worse than the rest and that it wasn't caught.
 
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