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(Buzzfeed)   Subway responds to controversy over its eleven inch footlongs, say that a "foot is not a unit of measurement"   (buzzfeed.com ) divider line
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2013-01-18 03:29:12 PM  
16 votes:
Dear Subway, if a foot long isn't a unit of measure... please take my payment of $4.50 as 'close enough'
2013-01-18 03:28:15 PM  
8 votes:

Elzar: Dear fatties,

Go be fat somewhere else...

Sincerely,

Subway Management and the rest of us who don't like seeing/smelling your fat fugly asses.


Dear troll,

Some of us get two meals out of a 'footlong', and would really prefer that it actually be a foot long, as advertised.

Sincerely,

Non-fatty
2013-01-18 04:35:55 PM  
7 votes:
Anyway, the reason the length of the sandwich literally does not matter is this: Every piece of subway bread is the same weight before being proofed and cooked, and the meat and veggie portions are standardized. You get your six pieces of turkey and whatever weight of bread regardless if it is 11" or it was stretched a little bit more before proofing and it is 13".
2013-01-18 03:37:51 PM  
7 votes:
Jackson Herring:
I am sure you are going to miss that extra quarter inch in each of your two meals

Would you be ok getting shorted 4% of every gallon of gas you buy? If they decided 'gallon' was just a marketing term? And didn't bother to tell anyone? The point isn't the .5" itself, it's the b.s. marketing crap they're trying to hide behind.
2013-01-18 05:46:27 PM  
5 votes:
I would start eating Subways 11" foot longs if they brought back the v-cut.

i49.tinypic.com
2013-01-18 05:55:21 PM  
4 votes:
Some company (Heinz?) got sued because the product would settle in the bottle resulting in less than advertised. Now they slightly overfill at the factory.

This IS a big deal. Why don't they short you a half ounce of gas at the pumps? BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL!
2013-01-18 04:36:25 PM  
4 votes:

Jackson Herring: vudutek: you're taking this far too seriously

hah it is pretty amazing that you have the lack of self-awareness to actually type that sentence


i'm quite aware of how unimportant .5" of a sandwich is. unfortunately, that's the only point you seem to consider important. the important discussion should be regarding false advertising and the associated corporate b.s.

now, go make me a sammich.
2013-01-18 05:59:13 PM  
3 votes:
On the one hand, I can see their argument that they cannot guarantee exactly one foot every time, due to variables in the baking process.

On the other hand, if they are consistently coming out at 11 inches instead of 12, they are indeed shorting customers and need to adjust their process accordingly.
2013-01-18 05:44:04 PM  
3 votes:
So their response was basically "fresh baked bread varies a bit, and seriously, sometimes it won't be an actual foot, footlong is the name of the sandwich"?


That's actually a pretty reasonable response.
2013-01-18 05:40:48 PM  
3 votes:
This is not about a goddamn sandwich, Its about false advertising get that straight.
2013-01-18 04:13:22 PM  
3 votes:

Jackson Herring: vudutek: Jackson Herring: this is literally the saddest thing I have ever seen anyone up in arms about

yeah, false advertising, who cares, right?

do you cry irl when you order a six inch and the bread isn't cut in the exact centroid of the loaf


c'mon, try not to be too much of an ass here. obviously, where the farking sandwich is cut is irrelevant to the actual size. if it's an ACTUAL foot, any cut will yield two pieces that total a foot.

btw: you're taking this far too seriously. are you perhaps a 'sandwich artist' irl?
2013-01-18 04:05:39 PM  
3 votes:

Jackson Herring: this is literally the saddest thing I have ever seen anyone up in arms about


yeah, false advertising, who cares, right?
2013-01-18 03:55:31 PM  
3 votes:
this is literally the saddest thing I have ever seen anyone up in arms about
2013-01-18 03:18:04 PM  
3 votes:
Dear fatties,

Go be fat somewhere else...

Sincerely,

Subway Management and the rest of us who don't like seeing/smelling your fat fugly asses.
2013-01-18 05:54:42 PM  
2 votes:

had98c: Subway is 100% correct here. It's a trademarked name, not a description of the sandwich.


Then why do they ask "do you want a 6" sub or a foot long sub"?

And as others have pointed out, why do they show 12" in their ads?
2013-01-18 05:45:41 PM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Jackson Herring: this is literally the saddest thing I have ever seen anyone up in arms about

2013-01-18 05:44:26 PM  
2 votes:

vudutek: Jackson Herring:
I am sure you are going to miss that extra quarter inch in each of your two meals

Would you be ok getting shorted 4% of every gallon of gas you buy? If they decided 'gallon' was just a marketing term? And didn't bother to tell anyone? The point isn't the .5" itself, it's the b.s. marketing crap they're trying to hide behind.


This
Henry Ford once said that if he saved one inch of wire per vehicle it would save his company millions.
Number of locations, 38,181 restaurants in 99 countries, I'll bet that one inch adds up to quite a bit per day.
2013-01-18 05:44:05 PM  
2 votes:
Subway's reply was dumb - they should have said that ... Since our bread is fresh made every day, on site, there will be times when an individual loaf does not turn out to be an exact 12" - we do try our hardest to provide the healthiest and most affordable fast food option while providing the element of having freshly baked bread. We want to take this time to also thank all of you have made Subway a part of your healthy lifestyle.
2013-01-18 05:43:18 PM  
2 votes:
I love how people are biatching about half an inch of bread that is missing, and not the measly 3 slices of meat they give you on their subs.
2013-01-18 05:36:20 PM  
2 votes:

Jackson Herring: this is literally the saddest thing I have ever seen anyone up in arms about


Its not about the extra inch (giggity) its about false advertising.
2013-01-18 05:35:11 PM  
2 votes:

Jackson Herring: Anyway, the reason the length of the sandwich literally does not matter is this: Every piece of subway bread is the same weight before being proofed and cooked, and the meat and veggie portions are standardized. You get your six pieces of turkey and whatever weight of bread regardless if it is 11" or it was stretched a little bit more before proofing and it is 13".


That's fine, but they should build a campaign on the weight of the sandwich rather than the length if that's what they're going with.

/doesn't eat at Subway
2013-01-18 04:10:14 PM  
2 votes:

justtray: The marketing campaign argument is actually pretty compelling.


It would be, except they also specify six inch subs, and they'd be hard pressed to explain how they get two of those from a "FOOTLONG" piece of bread. I know, they're supposed to be cut on the diagonal, right? I'd yours wasn't, that's the fault of the individual sandwich artist, not anyone at corporate.
2013-01-19 01:05:25 AM  
1 vote:

HumanBeingsSuck: bmihura: Seriously, their food is good with me as is

That's too bad. Depending on where you live in the Austin area, you have the choice of a bunch of places that actually serve delicious sammiches. Your being ok with Subway means your credibility is diminished.


I didn't know there were any Subways in Austin. I honestly didn't think that Thundercloud, Jimmy John's, Jason's Deli, Which Wich, Schlotsky's, Quizno's, Texadelphia, or Jersey Mike's had left any physical space or customer base for them.
2013-01-18 11:27:18 PM  
1 vote:
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
2013-01-18 10:41:40 PM  
1 vote:
I'll say one thing about this thread- it seems to have kept a good number of people from commenting on youtube videos for the past few hours.
2013-01-18 10:03:43 PM  
1 vote:
These complaints are so old school:

www.visualnews.com
2013-01-18 10:00:14 PM  
1 vote:
i2.photobucket.com
2013-01-18 09:21:37 PM  
1 vote:

gunga galunga: Now that I know the truth, I realize that I did not so much eat those footlongs as I was buttfarked by them.


Show us on the baguette where Subway touched you.
2013-01-18 08:56:49 PM  
1 vote:
Maybe he removed  a 1" piece out of the middle just to create some controversy...

www.pbase.com
2013-01-18 08:53:53 PM  
1 vote:
Seriously, all this outrage over a cheap sandwich? Maybe I missed it... I scanned the thread...


But...


Am I really the first Farker to mention...

Most "pints" that we buy at bars and restaurants aren't really 16oz.? Where's the true outrage - we're being gipped on beer!

thebeergauge.com


Sourced from the WSJ, so I can't link:

"Some restaurants have replaced 16-ounce pint glasses with 14 ouncers -- a type of glassware one bartender called a "falsie."

And customers are complaining that bartenders are increasingly putting less than 16 ounces of beer in a pint glass, filling up the extra space with foam.

Two of the world's biggest glassware makers, Libbey and Cardinal International, say orders of smaller beer glasses have risen over the past year. Restaurateurs "want more of a perceived value," says Mike Schuster, Libbey's marketing manager for glassware in the U.S. Glasses with a thicker bottom or a thicker shaft help create the perception. "You can increase the thickness of the bottom part but still retain the overall profile," he says."
2013-01-18 06:28:12 PM  
1 vote:

Apik0r0s: Kanabiis: Apik0r0s: lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.

But baking bread to exactly 11 inches is apparently possible.

Subway is deceptive about some of their meats as well, are they not? Don't you have to really read the fine print there to see that they make a bunch of their meats out of turkey?

How cute... apparently you also fail to realize what franchise means....

Every Subway restaurant is individually owned and operated... Subway the corporation has little to nothing to do with the sandwich you buy....

The subway footlong I ate today was 13 inches long... you know what I DIDN'T do, make a stupid Facebook post about it.

Subway franchisees HAVE to buy ALL of their ingredients from the mothership.


Then care to explain my 13 inch footlong??

Dont think too hard...
www.baxterbakery.com
2013-01-18 06:23:33 PM  
1 vote:

A Terrible Human: Holy shiat is this thread angry over an inch of a sandwich. False advertising


FTFY

Its not about the damn sandwich.
2013-01-18 06:22:25 PM  
1 vote:
rlv.zcache.com

Well, a foot shouldn't be a unit of measurement...
2013-01-18 06:06:11 PM  
1 vote:

gilgigamesh: Mugato: Is it a unit of time, like a parsec?

You know damn well that the parsec is only a unit of time for ships making the Kessel Run.


No, he's bragging about the efficiencies in his hyperdrive system, which allows him to shave time by taking a route that is relatively more direct.

It appears from on-screen evidence that going into hyperdrive is effectively traveling by artificial wormhole -- and Han helpfully tells Luke that the calculations for hyperdrive routes are difficult and cannot be rushed, because mistakes mean you materialize inside a star (or presumably some other gravity source). It's reasonable to assume that the Kessel Run is a run through a difficult-to-navigate section of space, where ordinarily hyperdrive is of limited use because of the higher risk. Han's a smuggler and speed is of the essence, and he's prone to taking risks (he will later successfully navigate an asteroid field despite the danger). So we can assume that not just speed in normal space, but nimbleness and navigational accuracy are the Falcon's key strengths. Han brags that he's made some special (probably illegal) mods himself. Such as, for example, disabling safety protocols and using nonstandard calculation models. Kind of like saving a preferred route in your GPS.

The only reason the Imperial Navy can find and follow them is because of the homing beacon, remember?

So Han is basically bragging about his skill not just flying in normal space, but in taking advantage of shortcuts and having the guts and skills to take unusual risks in dangerous space.

/yes i have thought this through and so have others
//hooray for the old West End Games Star Wars system!
2013-01-18 06:05:58 PM  
1 vote:

The Man Who Laughs: It's still the same amount of bread. That bit about the proofing process is correct; proofing is what you call the process of the dough expanding before you cook it, and variations in ingredients, temperature and humidity have an effect on that. Knowing that, Subway restaurants use a scale to weigh and portion out a certain amount of dough that is to become a loaf of bread. Regardless of how much the dough proofs, you're still getting the same amount of material by weight. Same applies to toppings; they're all pre-weighed, and you still get the same number of cheese slices and whatever else. Complaining that an 11 inch Subway sub isn't going to be as much food as a 12 inch Subway sub is just dumb.


I get your point, but the whole reason the subs are coming up short is they're shorting the proofs. Personally, I'd love to see them start advertising the subs by the amount of meat inside.

Five!

Five dollah!

Five dollah quarter pound!
2013-01-18 05:54:35 PM  
1 vote:

lennavan: vudutek: Jackson Herring:
I am sure you are going to miss that extra quarter inch in each of your two meals

Would you be ok getting shorted 4% of every gallon of gas you buy? If they decided 'gallon' was just a marketing term? And didn't bother to tell anyone? The point isn't the .5" itself, it's the b.s. marketing crap they're trying to hide behind.

It seems everyone skipped the first paragraph of the reply, where Subway agreed that bread was not up to their standards.


I think it's because they then go on to say that you'll eat that sub-standard sub and like because the fine print says we can give you whatever we please and still call it a footlong.
2013-01-18 05:53:24 PM  
1 vote:
I'm glad people have time to give a fark about this, with all other problems solved and the world otherwise perfect.

Don't want to eat at Subway? Don't eat at Subway.

Not news worthy.
2013-01-18 05:52:11 PM  
1 vote:
People calling for a lawsuit are literally the stupidest people on the planet... yes, every one of you...

False advertising my ass... I'm sure every Big Mac you have ever ate looked just like the one on TV... Did your Toyota really bring you excitement?? How many splatters of ketchup did you really get with your Carl's Jr burger?? I bet your Siri really sings you to sleep...

How about just not buying a Subway sandwich if it really bothers you, nah, Subway owes you a million dollars for hurting your feelings....
2013-01-18 05:50:58 PM  
1 vote:
defending or obsessing, it's Friday I don't care what words mean
2013-01-18 05:49:38 PM  
1 vote:
4.bp.blogspot.com

A mile is not a unit of measurement.
2013-01-18 05:44:20 PM  
1 vote:
2013-01-18 05:41:38 PM  
1 vote:
Wrong answer, Subway.

/One day corporations will understand that everyone can get the internet.
2013-01-18 05:38:22 PM  
1 vote:
At least the guy just posted a picture on facebook.... Things could have been a lot worse!

blogs.ocweekly.com
2013-01-18 05:37:09 PM  
1 vote:
It's amazing any of these companies exist after the flood of successful lawsuits about their food not looking anything like it does in their advertisements.

Oh wait, that never happened.

Carry on.
2013-01-18 05:35:20 PM  
1 vote:
"A foot is not a unit of measurement."

"A foot is not a unit of measurement."

"A foot is not a unit of measurement."


I...I think I want to stab someone now.

Godscrack: Elzar: Dear fatties,

Go be fat somewhere else...

[img694.imageshack.us image 562x410]


Heard off-screen: "PUT THAT FARKING THING DOWN, DALE, BEFORE YOU KILL ALL OF US."
2013-01-18 05:35:06 PM  
1 vote:
I can't wait to hear the new jingle for "$5 Footlongs Plus or Minus 5% of the Linear Length"
2013-01-18 05:33:38 PM  
1 vote:
I KNEW they were going to say this when the controversy broke. Really, really stupid thing to say as well as an invitation to state and federal regulatory bodies to start taking a look at it.
2013-01-18 05:28:38 PM  
1 vote:
TEAM WHO CARES
2013-01-18 05:27:06 PM  
1 vote:
Is it a unit of time, like a parsec?
2013-01-18 04:28:20 PM  
1 vote:

vudutek: you're taking this far too seriously


hah it is pretty amazing that you have the lack of self-awareness to actually type that sentence
2013-01-18 04:02:44 PM  
1 vote:
The marketing campaign argument is actually pretty compelling.
 
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