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2013-01-18 05:57:40 PM  

ten foiled hats: You're right. It's "not intended to be a measurement of length." (See above.) That changes everything.


Wait til you find out there isn't an actual Easy button.

What if I go to McDonalds and I'm not actually Lovin it? They promised me I would be.

Next time you make a phone call on a Nokia phone that doesn't get connected, document it immediately. They promised to be connecting people.
 
2013-01-18 05:57:42 PM  
When was the last time that tape measure was calibrated?
 
2013-01-18 05:58:37 PM  

ggecko: had98c: Subway is 100% correct here. It's a trademarked name, not a description of the sandwich.

Then why do they ask "do you want a 6" sub or a foot long sub"?

And as others have pointed out, why do they show 12" in their ads?


They ask that because that's the name of the sandwich type. It'd be no different if they called them Half-loaf or Full-loaf sandwiches.

As for the 12" thing in the ads, that's where you can definitely make a good argument for false advertising. But not just based on the name of the sandwich alone.
 
2013-01-18 05:58:41 PM  
a foot is not a unit of measurement?

outraged over the loss of an inch??? NO

outraged that i had to go through high school to get a job while some ck sker who obviously has never heard of high school gets a job.

THAT is an outrage.
 
2013-01-18 05:59:13 PM  
On the one hand, I can see their argument that they cannot guarantee exactly one foot every time, due to variables in the baking process.

On the other hand, if they are consistently coming out at 11 inches instead of 12, they are indeed shorting customers and need to adjust their process accordingly.
 
2013-01-18 05:59:19 PM  

snocone: Kanabiis: People calling for a lawsuit are literally the stupidest people on the planet... yes, every one of you...

False advertising my ass... I'm sure every Big Mac you have ever ate looked just like the one on TV... Did your Toyota really bring you excitement?? How many splatters of ketchup did you really get with your Carl's Jr burger?? I bet your Siri really sings you to sleep...

How about just not buying a Subway sandwich if it really bothers you, nah, Subway owes you a million dollars for hurting your feelings....

If you are going to support jailing a jaywalker or meth dealer, why give a pass to corporate greed?


Thats the beauty of America, how about you open a sandwich shop that really sells a sandwich thats exactly a footlong.... oh wait, that would require you to do something other then false outrage....

white people problems.... meh
 
2013-01-18 05:59:22 PM  
lennavan: boozehat: I farking hate Subway. The employees there do not have the ability to follow directions. My experience, every time I had to eat there was like this:

I farking hate customers. Customers do not have the ability to give instructions. My experience, when I used to run a hot dog stand in high school was like this:

Customer: Gimme a hot dog with everything except ketchup.
Me: Peppers?
Customer: Nah no peppers.
Me: K. Cucumbers?
Customer: No none of that either.
Me: Pickle relish?
Customer: No, I don't like that.
Me: K here you go.
Customer: Aww dude, onions? Damn I meant to say no onions. Can you make me a different one?

Yeah, there's a reason this was your experience:


I'm sorry you went to high school with retards. I can see all of the options in front of me at subway (you did not describe your hot dog cart, so I'm not sure of your experience). I look at the options, and tell them what I want. I don't have a complicated order... leave off one item. If you can't follow simple instructions, well... I guess there is a reason you work at a fast food chain.

I took my business to Togo's instead. Regular 23, Provolone cheese, no tomatoes but everything else. They somehow manage to hire people who can follow directions (and I like their bread better too)
 
2013-01-18 06:00:23 PM  

Earl of Chives: I think it's because they then go on to say that you'll eat that sub-standard sub and like because the fine print says we can give you whatever we please and still call it a footlong.


I bought an Apple Computer online a few years ago. A computer showed up at my door and I don't see anything edible or resembling an apple at all. WTF is that? I wanted an apple computer, I was hoping something shaped like a Golden Delicious. Fark, it's NAMED apple for farks sake. It's almost as if the name Apple Computer is a trademarked name and not intended to be a description. Holy fark.
 
2013-01-18 06:01:05 PM  

jigger: Why do Subway restaurants smell awful?


FTL: The question "What makes that awful reek?" has been the topic of well-attended discussions on Chowhound and MetaFilter, but to my knowledge, no one has ever produced a satisfactory answer. [...] I still haven't found an answer to the smell conundrum

Why is Abe vigoda considered to be living? It seems like everyone is saying Abe Vigoda is still alive. I still can't find a single source that lists his status as dead. Why can't i pin down why is he alive?
 
2013-01-18 06:01:07 PM  
I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.
 
2013-01-18 06:02:05 PM  
Like it or not, Subway is in the right on this if they want to go this route, but they're false-advertising which is a pretty huge no-no.
 
2013-01-18 06:03:27 PM  

boozehat: I'm sorry you went to high school with retards.


The stand I ran was during the summer in downtown dealing with businesspeople. That said, yes there were lots of stupid people both at my high school and downtown.

boozehat: (you did not describe your hot dog cart, so I'm not sure of your experience).


There was a list of all possible toppings. You could only see some of the toppings, so it's slightly less like Subway. But I had people ask for everything and then yell at me when I started putting mustard on. The mustard bottle is sitting on top of my cart for farks sake.

boozehat: If you can't follow simple instructions, well... I guess there is a reason you work at a fast food chain.


You missed my point entirely. It's equally (probably significantly more) likely that they can follow simple instructions but past experience of dumbshiat customers has taught them it's best to verify ingredients one by one.
 
2013-01-18 06:03:40 PM  

lennavan: Clutch2013: "A foot is not a unit of measurement."
"A foot is not a unit of measurement."
"A foot is not a unit of measurement."

I...I think I want to stab someone now.

Interestingly, that quote does not appear anywhere in the article. I suggest you start by stabbing subby for making you post something so silly.


Like the actual quote's any better. This is how I picture the conversation going:

"Here, have our Five-Dollar Footlong!"
"Nice...wait. This isn't a footlong."
*nervous giggle* "Um...well, not all of them are."
"Then why call it a footlong?"
"Well, it's not a unit of measurement."
"...You...you morons."
 
2013-01-18 06:04:33 PM  

boozehat: teeny: boozehat: At least the guy just posted a picture on facebook.... Things could have been a lot worse!

[blogs.ocweekly.com image 637x267]

Why, what would the guy from Heroes have done about it?


Subway should have just treated it as an anomaly and given the guy a free sub. (Unless of course it's NOT an anomaly, in which case, they suck balls for calling it a "footlong". But nooo they had to go full retard.

You forgot to close your parenthesis in your trolling efforts.


FARK.
 
2013-01-18 06:04:33 PM  

UsikFark: Subby:

"foot is not a unit of measurement"

TFA:

" 'SUBWAY FOOTLONG' is a registered trademark as a descriptive name for the sub sold in Subway® Restaurants and not intended to be a measurement of length."

Let me show you how to properly misquote that passage to suit your headline:

"[A foot] [...] is [...] not [...] a measurement of length."

This better not be an English Major submission.


This will end up as a class action suit like the cigarette "Lights" suit
The cigarette companies claimed "Lights" meant flavor not less nicotine or tar.
The lawyers will make millions of dollars and the consumer will get a coupon for 25 cents off,
 
2013-01-18 06:04:35 PM  

Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.


I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.
 
2013-01-18 06:05:58 PM  

The Man Who Laughs: It's still the same amount of bread. That bit about the proofing process is correct; proofing is what you call the process of the dough expanding before you cook it, and variations in ingredients, temperature and humidity have an effect on that. Knowing that, Subway restaurants use a scale to weigh and portion out a certain amount of dough that is to become a loaf of bread. Regardless of how much the dough proofs, you're still getting the same amount of material by weight. Same applies to toppings; they're all pre-weighed, and you still get the same number of cheese slices and whatever else. Complaining that an 11 inch Subway sub isn't going to be as much food as a 12 inch Subway sub is just dumb.


I get your point, but the whole reason the subs are coming up short is they're shorting the proofs. Personally, I'd love to see them start advertising the subs by the amount of meat inside.

Five!

Five dollah!

Five dollah quarter pound!
 
2013-01-18 06:06:05 PM  

lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.


Do they not have bread pans and a standardized recipe?
 
2013-01-18 06:06:08 PM  
All they need to do to fix it is offset the bread a little.

Problem solved.

They ever advertised that the top half of the bread fits directly over the bottom half.
 
2013-01-18 06:06:11 PM  

gilgigamesh: Mugato: Is it a unit of time, like a parsec?

You know damn well that the parsec is only a unit of time for ships making the Kessel Run.


No, he's bragging about the efficiencies in his hyperdrive system, which allows him to shave time by taking a route that is relatively more direct.

It appears from on-screen evidence that going into hyperdrive is effectively traveling by artificial wormhole -- and Han helpfully tells Luke that the calculations for hyperdrive routes are difficult and cannot be rushed, because mistakes mean you materialize inside a star (or presumably some other gravity source). It's reasonable to assume that the Kessel Run is a run through a difficult-to-navigate section of space, where ordinarily hyperdrive is of limited use because of the higher risk. Han's a smuggler and speed is of the essence, and he's prone to taking risks (he will later successfully navigate an asteroid field despite the danger). So we can assume that not just speed in normal space, but nimbleness and navigational accuracy are the Falcon's key strengths. Han brags that he's made some special (probably illegal) mods himself. Such as, for example, disabling safety protocols and using nonstandard calculation models. Kind of like saving a preferred route in your GPS.

The only reason the Imperial Navy can find and follow them is because of the homing beacon, remember?

So Han is basically bragging about his skill not just flying in normal space, but in taking advantage of shortcuts and having the guts and skills to take unusual risks in dangerous space.

/yes i have thought this through and so have others
//hooray for the old West End Games Star Wars system!
 
2013-01-18 06:07:38 PM  

lennavan: Earl of Chives: I think it's because they then go on to say that you'll eat that sub-standard sub and like because the fine print says we can give you whatever we please and still call it a footlong.

I bought an Apple Computer online a few years ago. A computer showed up at my door and I don't see anything edible or resembling an apple at all. WTF is that? I wanted an apple computer, I was hoping something shaped like a Golden Delicious. Fark, it's NAMED apple for farks sake. It's almost as if the name Apple Computer is a trademarked name and not intended to be a description. Holy fark.


No, it's really an apple. Go ahead and take a bite.
 
2013-01-18 06:07:53 PM  

snocone: theFword: I would start eating Subways 11" foot longs if they brought back the v-cut.

[i49.tinypic.com image 407x203]

You get "guts" at Erbert and Gerbert's.


+1 to you kind sir or madaam.

/had erbs for lunch today
 
2013-01-18 06:08:46 PM  
as a member of the lumber industry, i'm getting a kick
 
2013-01-18 06:08:57 PM  

Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.


So now you are advocating that the government start regulating sandwich sizes....

I thought we wanted smaller government... It's so tough keeping up with you flip floppers....

I have a novel idea... if it bothers you so much, stop eating at Subway....

I bet if you went and measured the subs at ANY sub shop that advertises foot long, you would find they come up a bit short... The problem here is not the fact that SOME Subway subs are not exactly a foot long, but the fact that most of the people complaining are literally morons with such a lack of understanding of how the world works that they really expect exactly 12 inches of bread 100% of the time. Which lets me know they lack the life experience and logical thought process to realize that proofing bread is not an exact science yet they expect a high school kid to get it perfect every time....

Jesus christ, how some of you live through the day without literally killing yourself astounds me.
 
2013-01-18 06:08:59 PM  

Xanlexian: lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.

Do they not have bread pans and a standardized recipe?



You're one of the people who I was referring to earlier:

lennavan: It seems everyone skipped the first paragraph of the reply, where Subway agreed that bread was not up to their standards.

 
2013-01-18 06:09:10 PM  
Does anyone think that they will change their portions even 1%? The answer is 'no.' They will use science to make their loafoid bake up an inch longer.
 
2013-01-18 06:09:17 PM  

lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.


But baking bread to exactly 11 inches is apparently possible.

Subway is deceptive about some of their meats as well, are they not? Don't you have to really read the fine print there to see that they make a bunch of their meats out of turkey?
 
2013-01-18 06:09:21 PM  
This is also nothing new. It's why the term "Bakers Dozen" means 13 loaves.
 
2013-01-18 06:10:24 PM  
Well, duh! Subway has aides, remember?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-18 06:11:22 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: loafoid


lol-foid :D
 
2013-01-18 06:13:13 PM  
Holy shiat is this thread angry over an inch of a sandwich.
 
2013-01-18 06:13:21 PM  

lennavan: boozehat: I'm sorry you went to high school with retards.

The stand I ran was during the summer in downtown dealing with businesspeople. That said, yes there were lots of stupid people both at my high school and downtown.

boozehat: (you did not describe your hot dog cart, so I'm not sure of your experience).

There was a list of all possible toppings. You could only see some of the toppings, so it's slightly less like Subway. But I had people ask for everything and then yell at me when I started putting mustard on. The mustard bottle is sitting on top of my cart for farks sake.

boozehat: If you can't follow simple instructions, well... I guess there is a reason you work at a fast food chain.

You missed my point entirely. It's equally (probably significantly more) likely that they can follow simple instructions but past experience of dumbshiat customers has taught them it's best to verify ingredients one by one.


I can see your point. Thank you for the clarification.

My point is simply I do not like to give my order 7 times when I go to eat. I stated my order, it is simple and in my opinion, doesn't need to be repeated to a normal person who has listening skills and a memory that lasts more than 25 seconds.

Imagine going out to eat, you look at the menu (which clearly states your options) and you tell the waitress:
You: "I would like the steak, baked potato, and a salad"
Waitress: "Ok, that comes with a choice of soup or salad; what would you like?"
You: "uhhh... I said salad"
Waitress: "Great. And you have the choice of baked potato, fries, or vegies."
You: "Thank you for helping with my options.... I'll just keep repeating myself over and over I guess"

For me.. that's an irritating situation. My experience didn't happen at one subway location, one time... it's all locations I ever went to (past tense). I won't go back.
 
2013-01-18 06:13:29 PM  

Apik0r0s: But baking bread to exactly 11 inches is apparently possible.


Assuming the picture is an accurate representation. Now try running a bread baking company across the nation with thousands of employees making around minimum wage and ensure they all bake bread to exactly 11 inches in length.

Good luck.
 
2013-01-18 06:15:14 PM  

lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.


The businesses calibrate the pumps and the state inspects them every few months, and every pump has to dispense an amount of gas within legal limits. You would think the franchise owner would crank some little screw so that it dispenses .99934 gallons of gas or something, but when you check the sticker it will often indicate how many tablespoons +/- a gallon you are getting, and many pumps dispense an extra tablespoon per gallon.

It's probably a conspiracy so mob bosses know at which pumps to fill up to get their protection money gasoline.
 
2013-01-18 06:16:30 PM  

Apik0r0s: lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.

But baking bread to exactly 11 inches is apparently possible.

Subway is deceptive about some of their meats as well, are they not? Don't you have to really read the fine print there to see that they make a bunch of their meats out of turkey?


How cute... apparently you also fail to realize what franchise means....

Every Subway restaurant is individually owned and operated... Subway the corporation has little to nothing to do with the sandwich you buy....

The subway footlong I ate today was 13 inches long... you know what I DIDN'T do, make a stupid Facebook post about it.
 
2013-01-18 06:16:37 PM  
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

I love how they show that subway's ads promote it to be a footlong.
 
2013-01-18 06:16:52 PM  
"Cut, cut, cut! Scott, stop filming! Guys, this...is a PORNO! This is not your Oscar scene! All I'm hiring you for is your ass cheeks, and that's all I want to see! I don't care about subs. I don't care about 6 inches or footlongs or toppings! All I want to see is your footlong up his bun-hole! 11 inch retards, get the hell outta here!"
 
2013-01-18 06:19:12 PM  
Subway just insulted the imperial measurement system, and therefore America
 
2013-01-18 06:19:15 PM  
That's only in the suburbs. Downtown, sometimes they're 13 or 14 inches long.

So it all averages out
 
2013-01-18 06:21:02 PM  

Kanabiis: Apik0r0s: lennavan: Apik0r0s: I'm sure everybody defending this practice would be happy getting 8% less of anything else they buy, like gas.

I think it's a teenie easier to measure a gallon accurately every time than it is to bake bread to exactly 12 inches every time.

But baking bread to exactly 11 inches is apparently possible.

Subway is deceptive about some of their meats as well, are they not? Don't you have to really read the fine print there to see that they make a bunch of their meats out of turkey?

How cute... apparently you also fail to realize what franchise means....

Every Subway restaurant is individually owned and operated... Subway the corporation has little to nothing to do with the sandwich you buy....

The subway footlong I ate today was 13 inches long... you know what I DIDN'T do, make a stupid Facebook post about it.


Subway franchisees HAVE to buy ALL of their ingredients from the mothership.
 
2013-01-18 06:21:37 PM  
At least they are tessalating the cheese correctly now.
/well sometimes...
 
2013-01-18 06:22:25 PM  
rlv.zcache.com

Well, a foot shouldn't be a unit of measurement...
 
2013-01-18 06:22:36 PM  
Reminds me of the same sort of corporate horsesh*t that was pulled when Nabisco's claims of hundreds of chips in every bite. Some high school students found out the total was far lacking. So Nabisco sent a rep all the way to the high school to personally explain that each cookie was loaded with thousands of chippettes" which aren't as big as a whole chocolate chip, so the chocolate "chippette" ratio truly was hundreds in each bite.

Ah, but they said that there were a hundred CHIPS in each bite according to their claim, not "chippettes". The Nabisco rep wasn't able to BS his way out of THAT one.
 
2013-01-18 06:22:47 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-18 06:22:47 PM  
well your wife or girlfriend would notice an extra 1/2"
 
2013-01-18 06:23:03 PM  

GAT_00: vudutek: the important discussion should be regarding false advertising and the associated corporate b.s.

Yeah, because no company ever lies.  It's just Subway.


peelslowlynsee.files.wordpress.com

Forget it, Jake. It's Subway.
 
2013-01-18 06:23:05 PM  

cig-mkr: UsikFark: Subby:

"foot is not a unit of measurement"

TFA:

" 'SUBWAY FOOTLONG' is a registered trademark as a descriptive name for the sub sold in Subway® Restaurants and not intended to be a measurement of length."

Let me show you how to properly misquote that passage to suit your headline:

"[A foot] [...] is [...] not [...] a measurement of length."

This better not be an English Major submission.

This will end up as a class action suit like the cigarette "Lights" suit
The cigarette companies claimed "Lights" meant flavor not less nicotine or tar.
The lawyers will make millions of dollars and the consumer will get a coupon for 25 cents off,


And, unless it is exactly 12 inches in length, eveyone will have to call that thing dangling off the end of their leg something else.

Unbelievable what some people choose to care about.
 
2013-01-18 06:23:33 PM  

A Terrible Human: Holy shiat is this thread angry over an inch of a sandwich. False advertising


FTFY

Its not about the damn sandwich.
 
2013-01-18 06:23:38 PM  
Ya know what they call the footlong in Paris?
 
2013-01-18 06:25:38 PM  

theFword: I would start eating Subways 11" foot longs if they brought back the v-cut.

[i49.tinypic.com image 407x203]


Don't you see? the V cut removes bread so you get less! It's a conspiracy!
 
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