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2013-01-18 05:36:53 PM  
So are the rules the same for a privately chartered plane as they are for regular flights? I can never be without my ankle pistol.
 
2013-01-18 05:38:17 PM  
So the gay bashing religious zealot RONPAUL libertarian is also a gun-zealot retard?

Who'd have guessed THAT?

/me
 
2013-01-18 05:52:48 PM  
Federal security director Vera Adams said they didn't believe there was "malicious intent" in any of the incidents,

Of course not, he's a corporate CEO, if it was one of us regular joes on the other hand......
 
2013-01-18 05:53:31 PM  
he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.
 
2013-01-18 05:53:51 PM  

Red_Fox: Federal security director Vera Adams said they didn't believe there was "malicious intent" in any of the incidents,

Of course not, he's a corporate CEO, if it was one of us regular joes on the other hand......


Uh, he was arrested. Save the trolling until they acquit him.
 
2013-01-18 05:54:56 PM  
Dumbass, or publicity stunt?
 
2013-01-18 05:55:30 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


"Responsible gun owner", he is not.
 
2013-01-18 05:55:55 PM  
The real crime is that shirt.
 
2013-01-18 05:56:09 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Sad thing though is we hear these stories way too often.
 
2013-01-18 05:57:11 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Yeah, this. He's shown he can't follow the most reasonable of gun laws, fark him.
 
2013-01-18 05:58:40 PM  
Isn't this the same company that promoted itself on the "O" aspect of their name/site... drawing a non-subtle parallel with their business with a woman's orgasm?

Insightful marketing there...
 
2013-01-18 06:01:26 PM  
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They need to find Overstock spokeswoman Sabine Ehrenfeld and bring her in for questioning.
 
2013-01-18 06:01:47 PM  
There's a store here in Austin which gets all the TSA-seized items out of Austin/Bergstrom.

So there's bins full of deadly Leathermans and other little mult-tools. Pocket knives. A few reasonably scary blades that are within the length that can be legally resold in this store (no swords, darn it!) And... hammers. And a kerosene lantern. Seriously? Who tried to take a kerosene lantern on the plane??
 
2013-01-18 06:03:12 PM  
So many people looking for someone to hate.
 
2013-01-18 06:03:27 PM  
Is it just me or does there seem to be a rash of CEOs acting like jackasses lately? Or is it just more news coverage as of late?
 
2013-01-18 06:03:44 PM  
What's up with those Oh - Oh - Oh it's all about the O commercials? Seems like there is something going on underneath the obvious, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
 
2013-01-18 06:04:34 PM  
He's finally taking practical action against the naked short sellers, I see.
 
2013-01-18 06:05:47 PM  
Muhfarkah crazy.
 
2013-01-18 06:06:16 PM  
Firearm, Subby, firearm.

Just one. No need to conflate the issue yet again.
 
2013-01-18 06:06:55 PM  
He dun goofed, is gonna lose that concealed carry permit.
 
2013-01-18 06:09:39 PM  
Nothing is going to happen to him. Having as much money as this guy does gives you an exemption from the law.
 
2013-01-18 06:10:10 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: [img594.imageshack.us image 342x500]

They need to find Overstock spokeswoman Sabine Ehrenfeld and bring her in for questioning.


I'd question her big O
 
2013-01-18 06:10:27 PM  
Another responsible gun owner heard from.
 
2013-01-18 06:11:03 PM  

Oznog: And a kerosene lantern. Seriously? Who tried to take a kerosene lantern on the plane??


Did it have any kerosene in it? Maybe it was a gift for someone, carried on so that it wouldn't be smashed by the baggage handlers.
 
2013-01-18 06:11:04 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: [img594.imageshack.us image 342x500]

They need to find Overstock spokeswoman Sabine Ehrenfeld and bring her in for questioning.


Yeah but not anywhere public. Someone's house maybe. How about yours?
 
2013-01-18 06:11:06 PM  

Mrtraveler01: eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.

Sad thing though is we hear these stories way too often.


Nobody admits to anything anymore. You can always cop to it later, let your attorney have a shot at weasel-ing you out on a technicality or a plea to lesser charges. It's the American way.
 
2013-01-18 06:11:13 PM  
Nothing to see here, Just another responsible gun owner losing track of his weapons.
 
2013-01-18 06:11:17 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: So are the rules the same for a privately chartered plane as they are for regular flights? I can never be without my ankle pistol.


Try a bike.
 
2013-01-18 06:13:45 PM  

reklamfox: Is it just me or does there seem to be a rash of CEOs acting like jackasses lately? Or is it just more news coverage as of late?


I think a lot of them feel threatened by the November election results and are just trying to make themselves feel better by showing up proles that they're still in charge.
 
2013-01-18 06:14:30 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Well.... Women CAN be vicious.
Don't let them pack your bags.
 
2013-01-18 06:14:57 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: So are the rules the same for a privately chartered plane as they are for regular flights? I can never be without my ankle pistol.


I've carried a handgun on a private jet, but I also have the presence of mind to know that I can't carry one on a commercial flight.I have forgotten about the Leatherman in my backpack before, though. The TSA agent was very helpful and personally walked me (and the knife) to the "Mail it Home" kiosk nearby.
 
2013-01-18 06:15:14 PM  
Probably left it in his luggage from his last trip on the corporate jet.
 
2013-01-18 06:16:09 PM  
Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?
 
2013-01-18 06:17:30 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I'd question her big O


That comment is STILL far more subtle than those Overstock commercials.


unlikely: Yeah but not anywhere public. Someone's house maybe. How about yours?


Might as well.

The stuff I'd do for this country, I tell ya.
 
2013-01-18 06:17:37 PM  
My main question about this... one weapon, four arrests?

Really poorly worded article, or ridiculous amounts of creative license by the police? Having read a lot of news and known a decent number of cops, it could easily be either.

//Not sure why the carry-on limitations would apply to what I would guess is a private jet. He doesn't need a gun to hijack the plane, he already owns the plane.
//Admittedly "I didn't know it was in my luggage" is probably not a good excuse where a gun is concerned, because if anything that's even worse.
 
2013-01-18 06:19:10 PM  
The firearm. Never your firearm.
 
2013-01-18 06:21:02 PM  
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2013-01-18 06:23:12 PM  

bump: Isn't this the same company that promoted itself on the "O" aspect of their name/site... drawing a non-subtle parallel with their business with a woman's orgasm?

Insightful marketing there...


It worked pretty well at first.
 
2013-01-18 06:24:26 PM  
This man has great taste in firearms.
 
2013-01-18 06:24:52 PM  

anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

 
2013-01-18 06:25:32 PM  

bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?


Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?
 
2013-01-18 06:25:35 PM  
"Nobody admits to anything anymore. You can always cop to it later, let your attorney have a shot at weasel-ing you out on a technicality or a plea to lesser charges. It's the American way."

To be fair do you trust police and prosecutors to go easy on defendants?
 
2013-01-18 06:25:44 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: What's up with those Oh - Oh - Oh it's all about the O commercials? Seems like there is something going on underneath the obvious, but I can't quite put my finger on it.


When you do, you'll know it.

; )
 
2013-01-18 06:28:03 PM  

bugontherug: bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?


Yes.

Do you think 9/11 would have happened if the passengers were able to defend themselves?
 
2013-01-18 06:28:43 PM  
I am personally very pro-gun-rights, and even I think this was a stupid farking move. You can't even bring a bottle of water through security anymore; it seems inconceivable that he would think he could bring a gun through.

Every time I go on a plane, I completely empty and repack every bag I'm going to take. I know most of my carry-on bags have had knives or magazines or other TSA-proscribed items at one time or another. I make damn sure there's nothing in anything I'm carrying through an airport that shouldn't be there. As someone who owns weapons, I am very conscious of the fact that I am personally responsible for their disposition at all times, and thus give a shiat.

If this man can manage a company (and not being familiar with overstock.com's management or financials, that's not necessarily a safe assumption) he should damned sure be able to tell there are no guns in his carry-on. Hell, if he wanted to bring a gun, he could have easily declared it and checked the bag in.*

*As long he secured it per TSA regulations.

/Wonder if he'll be compelled to surrender his weapons?
//Since he's probably wealthy with connections, being a CEO and all, it could go either way
 
2013-01-18 06:30:28 PM  

anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?


The same part that says that you lose your right to free speech in a crowded theater when the speech involves yelling that there's a fire (and there isn't)?
 
2013-01-18 06:32:35 PM  

anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?


Probably has to do with even a negligent discharge leading to depressurization, and the grey area of flying being a privilege instead of a right.
 
2013-01-18 06:34:55 PM  

anindependent: bugontherug: bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?

Yes.

Do you think 9/11 would have happened if the passengers were able to defend themselves?


Yes. Because they were easily able to defend themselves, if they'd been willing to take a little damage from the knives. Which they would have been, if they'd felt it critical to fight back. Which they didn't.

In 2001, everyone knew that if you get hijacked, you sit down and shut up and everyone gets off the plane at Disneyland or something.

No one will ever again successfully hijack an American airliner. Period. Guns or no. Because now everyone knows if the plane gets hijacked, either you get the plane back or everyone dies. Remember that guy who tried to open the door (which is impossible anyway) and his fellow passengers beat him to death with laptops? It wasn't a question of ability, it was a question of will.
 
2013-01-18 06:35:36 PM  
I've carried handguns on planes,but in my checked luggage,in a proper locked case & I filled out the forms & gotten the tag,it ain't hard to do.

Follow the rules,it ain't hard.
 
2013-01-18 06:35:41 PM  

anindependent: Yes.


You lose them when you buy the ticket and agree to giving them up.
 
2013-01-18 06:36:21 PM  

anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?


Link

/obligatory
//gun owner and advocate
///slashies
 
2013-01-18 06:39:40 PM  

Jim_Callahan: My main question about this... one weapon, four arrests?

Really poorly worded article, or ridiculous amounts of creative license by the police? Having read a lot of news and known a decent number of cops, it could easily be either.

//Not sure why the carry-on limitations would apply to what I would guess is a private jet. He doesn't need a gun to hijack the plane, he already owns the plane.
//Admittedly "I didn't know it was in my luggage" is probably not a good excuse where a gun is concerned, because if anything that's even worse.


I thought the same thing. Was it three other arrests of the same charge? If not, that info is irrelevant, and seems to be a weak attempt by the author to present this incedent as more commonplace.
 
2013-01-18 06:40:44 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Maybe he didn't put it in there. When my (ex)wife's parents came to visit, she was worried they might snoop through her dresser, so she hid her octopus themed vibrator (hey, she was Japanese...) in my luggage. I did not know this. Guess what happened next time I took a flight (by myself).

Bag is going through the scanner, and the lady just starts looking at me. "what?" she looks at me, looks at the scanner, and looks back at me. "What?" she looks at the scanner and looks at me again. "what?" 'Um...nothing'.

When I got to my destination and started unpacking, I found it and was like "oh."
 
2013-01-18 06:41:38 PM  

Oznog: There's a store here in Austin which gets all the TSA-seized items out of Austin/Bergstrom.

So there's bins full of deadly Leathermans and other little mult-tools. Pocket knives. A few reasonably scary blades that are within the length that can be legally resold in this store (no swords, darn it!) And... hammers. And a kerosene lantern. Seriously? Who tried to take a kerosene lantern on the plane??


Yeah, it's like that display of prohibited items, there's some bizarre shiat in there. I don't understand who thinks a camping stove full of fuel, fireworks or chainsaws are a good idea(Heard a story this wek about a chainsaw and apparently they ARE allowed, as long as they are drained uf fuel)...

This jackass had luggage with him, I'm sure. A firearm is completely kosher in checked luggage. Even ammo if it is not a loaded gun and you declare it at the ticket counter.
 
2013-01-18 06:44:58 PM  
Very fitting use of the "dumbass" tag, indeed.
 
2013-01-18 06:45:06 PM  
Not sure what subby's point is supposed to be but

The President's plan includes:

Closing background check loopholes to keep guns out of dangerous hands
Banning military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and taking other common sense steps
Making schools safer
Increasing access to mental health services



[I'mOKWITHTHIS.jpg]
 
2013-01-18 06:52:44 PM  
Has anyone tried updating his Wikipedia entry with this incident yet?
 
2013-01-18 06:52:48 PM  

whidbey: Not sure what subby's point is supposed to be but

The President's plan includes:

Closing background check loopholes to keep guns out of dangerous hands
Banning military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and taking other common sense steps
Making schools safer
Increasing access to mental health services
Closing the CEOs-get-3-free-airborne-shootings loophole

[I'mOKWITHTHIS.jpg]


Not sure why they had that to begin with.
 
2013-01-18 06:54:09 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Word.
 
2013-01-18 06:57:36 PM  
He might have had a flunkie pack his bags for him. What better way to give paybacks for the hot cocoa sampler pack?
 
2013-01-18 07:00:17 PM  

Lochsteppe: Closing the CEOs-get-3-free-airborne-shootings loophole

[I'mOKWITHTHIS.jpg]

Not sure why they had that to begin with.


They must have thought it would be must-see TV.
 
2013-01-18 07:01:57 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


I had to read that 3 or so times to make sure that is what it actually said. There was no other way to interpret that statement... unless of course they didn't quote the entire statement. Let's remember too, he was one of four people arrested and I wonder if he actually backs his bags. There are too many questions that need for me to be 100%. I am thinking I am about at 90% as of now for that was being a lie from what I just read, but that is just my opinion.

Anyway, I completely agree with you and said punishment.
 
2013-01-18 07:02:03 PM  

Jim_Callahan: My main question about this... one weapon, four arrests?

Really poorly worded article, or ridiculous amounts of creative license by the police? Having read a lot of news and known a decent number of cops, it could easily be either.

//Not sure why the carry-on limitations would apply to what I would guess is a private jet. He doesn't need a gun to hijack the plane, he already owns the plane.
//Admittedly "I didn't know it was in my luggage" is probably not a good excuse where a gun is concerned, because if anything that's even worse.


Doesn't stop him from shooting up the terminal or firing at other planes while walking out to his jet.
 
2013-01-18 07:05:00 PM  

anindependent: bugontherug: bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?

Yes.

Do you think 9/11 would have happened if the passengers were able to defend themselves?


Well, the Flight 93 passengers defended themselves. The plane didn't crash into a building, but the passengers are just as dead.

My question to you, just as serious, is this: If there is only ONE hijacker, then maybe a person with a gun could do some protecting, sure. On 9/11 there were five per plane. They apparently (or probably) took secondary hostages prior to taking control of the cockpit. So even if you have a gun, what will you do if multiple hijackers with multiple human shields in front of them are commandeering the plane? Are you going to shoot through the hostages to kill the hijackers?
 
2013-01-18 07:20:30 PM  

anindependent: bugontherug: bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?

Yes.

Do you think 9/11 would have happened if the passengers were able to defend themselves?


Are you farking serious?
 
2013-01-18 07:21:41 PM  
Oh, he was in a public terminal with a firearm on his person. Yeah, that's not cool private jet or no. If this was the fenced in biz jet area then I can't see why anyone would care. I guess it depends on the FAR part # he was flying under.
 
2013-01-18 07:30:28 PM  

anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane?


The planes owned by airlines are private property. It's not a constitutional question, per se. The airline is not a government entity nor public property. If the airlines wanted to make a rule that no one could have a green shirt on their plane, that is legal. (It would be silly and arbitrary, but legal). Likewise, I would have the right to refuse you entry into my private home if you were carrying a weapon.
 
2013-01-18 07:35:04 PM  

eKonk: he denied knowing about the handgun

If this is true, he should be forbidden from ever touching a gun again. If you don't know you have your gun on you/in your luggage, you are far too irresponsible to be in control of it.


Concealed means concealed.
 
2013-01-18 07:36:33 PM  

VegasVinnie: He dun goofed, is gonna lose that concealed carry permit.


This and deservedly so.
 
2013-01-18 07:37:33 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Oznog: And a kerosene lantern. Seriously? Who tried to take a kerosene lantern on the plane??

Did it have any kerosene in it? Maybe it was a gift for someone, carried on so that it wouldn't be smashed by the baggage handlers.


Stop being reasonable. You're not helping the fire.
 
2013-01-18 07:48:18 PM  
Oh look it's this thread again.
 
2013-01-18 07:50:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: My question to you, just as serious, is this: If there is only ONE hijacker, then maybe a person with a gun could do some protecting, sure. On 9/11 there were five per plane. They apparently (or probably) took secondary hostages prior to taking control of the cockpit. So even if you have a gun, what will you do if multiple hijackers with multiple human shields in front of them are commandeering the plane? Are you going to shoot through the hostages to kill the hijackers?


Beats crashing into a building. Of course the first time someone depressurizes the cockpit by shooting a hole in the side at 38000 feet it stops seeming so worth it, and the best defense against a bunch of guys with knives is just to lock the cockpit doors and refuse to negotiate with terrorists. The fact that they didn't do that in the first place is, in retrospect, unreasonably trusting.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:14 PM  
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"It's all about the clowwdthes."
 
2013-01-18 08:03:59 PM  

you have pee hands: Gyrfalcon: My question to you, just as serious, is this: If there is only ONE hijacker, then maybe a person with a gun could do some protecting, sure. On 9/11 there were five per plane. They apparently (or probably) took secondary hostages prior to taking control of the cockpit. So even if you have a gun, what will you do if multiple hijackers with multiple human shields in front of them are commandeering the plane? Are you going to shoot through the hostages to kill the hijackers?

Beats crashing into a building. Of course the first time someone depressurizes the cockpit by shooting a hole in the side at 38000 feet it stops seeming so worth it, and the best defense against a bunch of guys with knives is just to lock the cockpit doors and refuse to negotiate with terrorists. The fact that they didn't do that in the first place is, in retrospect, unreasonably trusting.


Only because you are young and/or ignorant of pre-9/11 hijack protocols.

In the last rash of airline hijackings in the 1970's, the MO of hijackers was always to 1) take over the plane, 2) order the pilots to fly to someplace else, usually the Middle East, 3) land, and 4) use the passengers and crew to negotiate for weapons or the release of prisoners being held by Israel. Only if these negotiations did not take place were the passengers at risk of harm by the hijackers, and in fact after a few tragedies in the 1960's, hijackers usually took great care NOT to harm passengers if at all possible. So flight crews were told always to cooperate with the hijackers, obey their commands, with the goal of getting the plane on the ground and allowing professional negotiators and SWAT and commandos to take over.

On 9/11, these protocols were still in place, and even if the US government and security agencies were aware of the possibility of commercial airlines being used as bombs, this had not been disseminated to the air carriers themselves. So when the hijackers took over, the flight crews did as instructed: Obeyed orders, cooperated with the hijackers--and duly died. Since then, protocols have been changed, but you have to realize that things were different on 9/10 and nobody had yet thought "What if the hijackers DON'T want to take the plane back to Yemen?"
 
2013-01-18 08:05:36 PM  
Somewhere a bald eagle sheds a single tear.
 
2013-01-18 08:12:26 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: So are the rules the same for a privately chartered plane as they are for regular flights? I can never be without my ankle pistol.


No they aren't. Was mr overstock getting on a private flight? I
 
2013-01-18 08:14:29 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: So are the rules the same for a privately chartered plane as they are for regular flights? I can never be without my ankle pistol.


Are you kidding? Used to fly suitcases of coke and handguns right into LaGuardia. Screw this "driving cross country" crap, you could charter a Lear Jet and not worry about getting busted by some trooper pulling you over because your license plate light was dim.
 
2013-01-18 08:20:56 PM  

duffblue: Oh look it's this thread again.


Amazing how often this sh*t happens, ain't it?
 
2013-01-18 08:51:37 PM  

Frantic Freddie: I've carried handguns on planes,but in my checked luggage,in a proper locked case & I filled out the forms & gotten the tag,it ain't hard to do.

Follow the rules,it ain't hard.


Rules are unconstitutional.
 
2013-01-18 09:17:23 PM  
The CEO of Overstock.com was arrested this week at Salt Lake City International Airport for allegedly carrying a loaded firearm during a routine screening of carry-on luggage. Patrick Byrne was one of four people arrested, although he denied knowing about the handgun, a loaded Glock 23 .40-caliber weapon.

Shouldn't this guy have hired dudes who will carry weapons for him on his behalf? Who will put themselves into harm's way in case someone were to move against him due to his social-economic status? At least we have to assume this man is a self-made millionaire, as he's too stupid to have grown up as one (and used to the considerations they have to... consider).
 
2013-01-18 09:37:25 PM  

numbquil: Nothing is going to happen to him. Having as much money as this guy does gives you an exemption from the law.


More like having stupid amounts of money allows one to hire a lawyer good enough to get around most things.
 
2013-01-18 10:00:36 PM  

utah dude: [img832.imageshack.us image 54x11]


Can't have Fark tag, Ohio, Not yours.
 
2013-01-18 10:00:39 PM  

numbquil: Nothing is going to happen to him. Having as much money as this guy does gives you an exemption from the law.


Bingo. Because mankind is vile, evil, immoral and corrupt. There is little to no good in the world. To live is to suffer. Everything causes cancer. And everything that lives dies. In a lifetime filled with many years one may know a few fleeting moments of happiness. The rest is darkness, tears, unfulfilled longing and regret.

/ this message brought to you by the Happy Go Lucky Sunshine Committee
 
2013-01-18 10:03:06 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: duffblue: Oh look it's this thread again.

Amazing how often this sh*t happens, ain't it?

Not really.

Ghosts are afoot.

To ghost


Ghosts don't have feet.
 
2013-01-18 10:07:31 PM  

anindependent: bugontherug: bugontherug: anindependent: Can someone please direct me to the part of the constitution that says you lose the right to keep and bear arms when on a plane? How much harder would planes be to hijack if hijackers knew the passengers were packing heat?

Pardon me. Forgot to actually write something.

My question is, are you serious?

Yes.

Do you think 9/11 would have happened if the passengers were able to defend themselves?


I know gun-rights people have all these wonderful comic book fantasies about taking down the bad guy if only given they were given the chance, but...

Yes. Because up to that point, the standard procedure of hijackings is "Of course sir, we'll fly you to Cuba."

Yes, because the hijackers would've then had guns instead of boxcutters, and no passenger in their right mind would be having a John Wayne shootout in a full cabin of passengers.

Yes, because everyone in the world knows that we have the military weaponry to reign down holy hell on anyone we want...and that hardly has had much of a deterrent against Bin Laden and his crew in the past.
 
2013-01-18 10:33:17 PM  

Oznog: There's a store here in Austin which gets all the TSA-seized items out of Austin/Bergstrom.

So there's bins full of deadly Leathermans and other little mult-tools. Pocket knives. A few reasonably scary blades that are within the length that can be legally resold in this store (no swords, darn it!) And... hammers. And a kerosene lantern. Seriously? Who tried to take a kerosene lantern on the plane??


You laugh now, but guess who's going to be ready if the power in the plane goes out? Huh? Didn't think that through did YA! Yeah, I'll be ready with my kerosene lantern to light up so we can all see. You'll be left in the dark sucker!  And what if the power in the plane is out the entire flight? Yeah, I'll be able to read my book and you won't!


// :-)
 
2013-01-18 10:42:55 PM  
It's a reasonable precaution.

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2013-01-19 01:05:05 AM  
The shiat from Utah is overflowing and polluting my country
 
2013-01-19 04:31:49 AM  

unlikely: So the gay bashing religious zealot RONPAUL libertarian is also a gun-zealot retard?

Who'd have guessed THAT?

/me


They all go together. It's almost like being a gun nut is just being...a nut.
 
2013-01-19 09:06:05 AM  

Mikey1969: Firearm, Subby, firearm.

Just one. No need to conflate the issue yet again.


One's all you need to rain death upon the populace Dr. Sheldon Cooper PhD.
 
2013-01-19 09:13:23 AM  

Jim_Callahan: My main question about this... one weapon, four arrests?

Really poorly worded article, or ridiculous amounts of creative license by the police? Having read a lot of news and known a decent number of cops, it could easily be either.

//Not sure why the carry-on limitations would apply to what I would guess is a private jet. He doesn't need a gun to hijack the plane, he already owns the plane.
//Admittedly "I didn't know it was in my luggage" is probably not a good excuse where a gun is concerned, because if anything that's even worse.


The word you want is dissent. Dissent dissent dissent. SORRY but this is a rotsky-scale pet peeve of mine. Use the right gorram word or be prepared to be flamed mercilessly by my college educated ass.
 
2013-01-19 09:36:12 AM  
If everyone had a gun and could carry it as they pleased, we'd have no need for gun control.
 
2013-01-19 03:33:00 PM  
At overstock.com. Its all about the O, O O, face, vagina.

/Vagina
 
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