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2013-01-18 12:29:33 PM
I just hope this actually works well so I don't need to deal with the living hell that is iTunes for Windows anymore.
 
2013-01-18 12:37:30 PM
Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.
 
2013-01-18 12:50:57 PM
Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY
 
2013-01-18 12:52:42 PM
I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.
 
2013-01-18 12:56:24 PM
One of the reasons I love My Nexus & and my Wife's evo 4g?  Besides costing less combined than a single I-phone, I also had no trouble loading all my existing Mp3's on to it, even those aquired in the early years of the 2000 decade when DRM was not yet a "thing".  I can also easily get stuff from the Google Play store, Amazon's app store, or any other place that offers downloadble apps.

Proprietary content, content-blocking and "forked" versions  of Android are abominations that should offend every true techie.
 
2013-01-18 12:58:52 PM
And this is news how?  No one has ever prevented anyone from buying anything on a store through a browser.  Not Apple.  Not Samsung.  Not Microsoft.

/oh right - it involves Apple so therefor we must hate it
 
2013-01-18 01:00:24 PM

Magorn: Proprietary content, content-blocking and "forked" versions  of Android are abominations that should offend every true techie.


"true techies" (and I am using that phrase loosely) make up %.0001 of all consumers.  No one cares.
 
2013-01-18 01:06:56 PM
I did not know it was that difficult for people just to drag and drop purchased (or otherwise acquired) music into iTunes.
I've been doing it for years. I must be a fricken genius.
 
2013-01-18 01:08:10 PM
Profit infringement.  Apple patented profit in 2007.
 
2013-01-18 01:12:38 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


I had that same view until Amazon threw money at wife for a couple of books that will be coming out this year under one of Amazon's publishing imprints.

/money changes everything
//a LOT of money changes everything permanently
///It's not a lot of money until I see the checks rolling in.
 
2013-01-18 01:16:38 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


Nothing at all like iTunes, right?
 
2013-01-18 01:17:35 PM
Apple to sue for distributing digital media in 3... 2... 1....
 
2013-01-18 01:24:14 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I did not know it was that difficult for people just to drag and drop purchased (or otherwise acquired) music into iTunes.
I've been doing it for years. I must be a fricken genius.


You obviously have never met my mom.
 
2013-01-18 01:25:43 PM

tricycleracer: Profit infringement.  Apple patented profit in 2007.


RoxtarRyan: Apple to sue for distributing digital media in 3... 2... 1....


Seriously, though. Wasn't there some business about all in-app purcha- The new store is a Web app

Haha, nicely done Amazon, nicely done.
 
2013-01-18 01:47:34 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


CDs? Geez, I don't even own a turntable anymore.
 
2013-01-18 01:49:17 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


Wrong. And charging a huge mark up is never good for content producers. It's better to sell on the cheap.

Want to sell creations for huge mark ups? Go into fine arts then. LOL at charging premium for pop art. That's completely against the point.
 
2013-01-18 01:52:49 PM

s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY


Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.
 
2013-01-18 01:54:16 PM
People still pay for music?

/ducks, runs
 
2013-01-18 02:00:15 PM

wholedamnshow: s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY

Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.


Of course, Safari get a new feature where it couldn't save files to the music library w/o a 20 step process to change the default option. You know, for simplicity and user safety and stuff.
 
2013-01-18 02:00:51 PM
*could get
 
2013-01-18 02:04:50 PM

ProfessorOhki: wholedamnshow: s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY

Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.

Of course, Safari get a new feature where it couldn't save files to the music library w/o a 20 step process to change the default option. You know, for simplicity and user safety and stuff.


There are other browsers available for iOS.
 
2013-01-18 02:04:55 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


And then bad for the consumers who thought oh boy this is great!

/Zappos.com, Woot.com,...
/I figure they'll buy Microsoft and Apple eventually
 
2013-01-18 02:05:26 PM
Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??
 
2013-01-18 02:09:26 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ProfessorOhki: wholedamnshow: s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY

Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.

Of course, Safari get a new feature where it couldn't save files to the music library w/o a 20 step process to change the default option. You know, for simplicity and user safety and stuff.

There are other browsers available for iOS.


You know that. I know that. But how many uses do you think would go, "this stupid Amazon site doesn't work on my iPhone; they should fix it?"
 
2013-01-18 02:10:19 PM

azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??


Wake up. It's already available for the iPhone. Go to Amazon on your phone, it's pretty easy to find.
 
2013-01-18 02:10:33 PM

azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??


*ring ring ring* This is TFA here...
Users who buy a song from the Amazon MP3 Store can play it immediately in the Amazon Cloud Player app.
 
2013-01-18 02:13:24 PM

wholedamnshow: s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY

Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.


They could hard code the browser to not process content from amazon.com. They could create a host file to point amazon.com to a bogus address. Not that they would actually do that. But then again, this is Apple.
 
2013-01-18 02:14:49 PM

azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??


Damn if you weren't so truly stupid it'd be funny. You being the average apple user here's a link I found in .5seconds for the *gasp* amazon cloud player at the itunes store Link
 
2013-01-18 02:16:03 PM
Wake me up when Microsoft makes a phone that...oh forget it.
 
2013-01-18 02:21:33 PM
I guess it's been a while since I looked.  Thanks for the heads up, replyers.
 
2013-01-18 02:30:06 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


What are they going to do, get real jobs? Not likely.
 
2013-01-18 02:32:30 PM

azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.   Could it BE any simpler??


i.imgur.com

I'm doing it again, aren't I?
 
2013-01-18 02:33:50 PM

wholedamnshow: Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.


They could alter Safari to block the offending amazon links, or alter DNS resoution at the OS level, or alter Safari's permission level from saving files to the music/media directories, etc.
All of which would be dick moves, but par for Apple's little jailed golf course.
 
2013-01-18 02:36:32 PM

azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??


You must have been in a coma since it's been there for some time now.
 
2013-01-18 02:44:12 PM

ReverendJasen: wholedamnshow: Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.

They could alter Safari to block the offending amazon links, or alter DNS resoution at the OS level, or alter Safari's permission level from saving files to the music/media directories, etc.
All of which would be dick moves, but par for Apple's little jailed golf course.


I don't think that's a line that Apple is ready to cross. Yet.

They censor their app store, bookstore, sure, but those are closed infrastructures they control to begin with. The web is not. Censoring perfectly legal websites from their products would be a dramatic step even by Apple standards.
 
2013-01-18 02:49:35 PM
Cue the Apple CEO to suddenly claim the Amazon app is slow, bloated, processor-intensive, and not future viable, hence removing the ability to play it from any Apple devices.
 
2013-01-18 02:50:51 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


If you have Amazon's Cloud Player, and you buy a CD from them, they'll post the songs as 256k MP3s automatically to your cloud before the CD even ships out. So you can start playing the album right after you buy it, instead of waiting till it lands in your mailbox 3 days later. It's pretty farking slick.
 
2013-01-18 02:53:48 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


You're not alone.

I only buy CDs. I've never downloaded a song in my life.
 
2013-01-18 03:00:55 PM

Latinwolf: azmoviez: Wake me up when Amazon Cloud Player is available for the iPhone.  I love that the article says that I can purchase the song, download it on my computer, open iTunes and transfer to my iPhone.  Could it BE any simpler??

You must have been in a coma since it's been there for some time now.


I just downloaded that and the instant video app. I really have no use for the cloud music app generally, but sometimes I buy an album at work (or possibly now on my phone I guess) and want to listen to it before I get home and can load it on my phone properly.
 
2013-01-18 04:00:55 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


So is itunes so what's your point?
 
2013-01-18 04:03:15 PM

ReverendJasen: wholedamnshow: Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.

They could alter Safari to block the offending amazon links, or alter DNS resoution at the OS level, or alter Safari's permission level from saving files to the music/media directories, etc.
All of which would be dick moves, but par for Apple's little jailed golf course.


Yeah but MS got their asses kicked in court every time they tried that kind of shiat.
 
2013-01-18 04:28:21 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ProfessorOhki: wholedamnshow: s2s2s2: Amazon launches mobile MP3 store for iPhone while also cutting Apple out of the profits. News from tomorrow: Apple sues Amazon for some kind of music infringement iOS update.

FTFY

Since the entire process is done through a browser, an iOS update won't change anything.

Of course, Safari get a new feature where it couldn't save files to the music library w/o a 20 step process to change the default option. You know, for simplicity and user safety and stuff.

There are other browsers available for iOS.


they are all safari with different skins on them, except for opera and all if its functions are rendered on other operas servers....
 
2013-01-18 04:29:49 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


If you enjoy musical genres that are not well represented in digital distribution, you really don't have a choice. I buy a lot of classical music and a smattering of jazz. Ironically, it's probably just as easy to find audiophile-grade SACDs or DVD-Audio releases as it is to find a digitally distributed album of something other than a superstar performer's latest efforts.

On the other hand, after 15 years of buying discs from Amazon, my Cloud Player library became farking enormous about two weeks ago. Even though I already rolled my own easy-to-access cloud setup at home, I'm not really going to turn down having a second source for that stuff.
 
2013-01-18 05:20:09 PM

Supes: Censoring perfectly legal websites from their products would be a dramatic step even by Apple standards.


Especially because this is what they've been telling third parties who don't like the app store to do. Their semi-official policy has been, "Don't like the AppStore? Deliver via the web."

Here's the thing: Apple loves that other people are making things for the iPhone, even when Apple doesn't control those things. They really do. Oh, they'll break Jailbreaking (mostly because it allows piracy which directly impacts their bottom line), but they love it when people make iOS-specific web apps.

Why? It makes the iPhone better, without competing directly within Apple's value-chain. Apple has staked the AppStore and iTunes out as their own territory. They'll let others in, but there's a fee. This is definitely a profit thing, but it's also a simplicity thing- Apple doesn't want to manage a variety of agreements with vendors. Hell, they can't actually properly execute the agreements when they dictate terms (look at the cryptic and inconsistent approval processes).

The core point here: Apple isn't going to worry about Amazon's web-based stuff.
 
2013-01-18 05:23:36 PM

Rincewind53: Amazon is a monopsony. Yes, the consumers benefit from low prices, but it's bad for the industries, and ultimately, bad for the content  producers.


I disagree. Amazon is one of the few companies that has figured out that they're competing with free. The sooner the content producers figure that out, the sooner they'll stop whining and the sooner they'll start making decisions with the consumer in mind.
 
2013-01-18 05:32:15 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


I still buy them and SACDs.

When multi-channel 24/96 downloads costs the same as what I pay for new discs ($13 to $15), then I'll switch to downloads.
 
2013-01-18 05:33:52 PM

Tickle Mittens: I feel like I'm the only person who still buys CDs.


After Apple essentially stole about a thousand songs from me that I'd legally purchased through their app store, I went back to buying all of my music on CD. I don't think it'll ever happen again (partly because I refuse to use Apple now) but it made me paranoid enough about my music that I now insist on owning it in hard copy form. I don't actually play the CDs - I transfer them to my Amazon cloud. But I like owning the discs.
 
2013-01-18 05:52:00 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I did not know it was that difficult for people just to drag and drop purchased (or otherwise acquired) music into iTunes.
I've been doing it for years. I must be a fricken genius.


About six months ago, I gave a friend of mine a DVD of some live bootlegs - I just copied the folders out of my iTunes library with the intent of him copying them into his (to add to his iPod). I talked to him recently - he apparently never figured out how to get them into his iTunes, and has spent the last six months carrying that DVD around with him between work and home so that he can listen to the files directly (through Windows Media Player, I think).
 
2013-01-18 06:25:16 PM
have to admit, we tend to buy CDs because it's crap tons easier to share between the two of us that way.

If I buy mp3s via iTunes, I need to burn it to CD, then re-rip it.

/I know, we're horrible people for not buying two copies of everything
 
2013-01-18 06:38:38 PM

StrandedInAZ: After Apple essentially stole about a thousand songs from me that I'd legally purchased through their app store


What.

Explain.
 
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