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2013-01-18 04:54:22 PM
So, if Farkers ever get their panties in a wad about me taking my children to a restaurant, I should just say they are special needs kids....got it
 
2013-01-18 04:57:19 PM

Jesus Named His Raptor Satan: If you want to spend adult time, in an adult place...then go to a f*ckin titty bar. Bring your wife and have a nice dinner with entertainment provided. No kids...guaranteed! And stop your pathetic whining!


You haven't been to titty bars in Arlington, TX, have you?  Last time I visited one, there were four stripper's kids playing by the DJ booth, and one kid hanging from an umbilical cord from new mommy "Amber" as she danced.

Child care is expensive, yo
 
2013-01-18 04:57:23 PM

uncleacid: Your tard wants steak.


+1 - would LOL again.

/has special needs grandkid
//still would LOL again
 
2013-01-18 04:58:00 PM

serpent_sky: durbnpoisn: Secondly... I didn't mean to imply that I was offended by people moving. I was just pointing out that it happens quite frequently. And I seriously cannot take offense to someone wanting to move away. I'm confused by their lack of tolerance, but that's about it.

Some of us just don't like kids, and especially, the sounds they make. When out, we realize we will encounter them, but try to avoid them as much as possible.  You need to understand that people like me aren't going to "family" restaurants and complaining there are families there. That's just stupid and poor planning. But if I'm sitting down to a nice meal and a couple of glasses of wine, damned straight I don't want to hear a kid cry or whine or make noise or play or any of that.  You're more tolerant of it because you're used to it. To those of us never around kids, their sounds are worse nails on a chalkboard and are not cute or endearing.  The fact that people can't understand that confuses me.


So your parents never took you out in public, as you grew up?
I am guessing it was a decision we all can agree with...

But, please feel free to complaint about something you did at one time in your life.
Yeah we know, it's all about you.
 
2013-01-18 05:00:25 PM
I feel it's all about context and resonable expectations. When I go to McDonalds, I expect children will be there, and act accordingly.

When I go to Applebee's, a family restaurant, It's likely children/families will be there. I and Mr. TJW! avoid possible disruptions by sitting in the bar area. To those occasional folk I see who sit in the bar area with kids...(In some states that's actually LEGAL...A real shock from spending most of my adult life living in Las Vegas, where minors were prohibited from being within 25 feet of a bar) Shame on you!

And finally, My rule of thumb is that if you're visiting a restaurant with table cloths and linin napkins, the type that has prime rib on the menu and a bona fide wine list, It's IMO reasonable to expect a dining experience--that I'm paying top dollar to enjoy--free of disruption from misbehaving children or screaming babies. Or on the other end of the spectrum, Obnoxiously loud drunks, etc.

I scope out the place when I arrive and chose/request my table accordingly. I don't feel I'm being unreasonable. I happen to like kids. I don't blame them, I frown upon the parents. I feel it's unreasonable for them to bring their kids to such a place. Kids get bored. They shouldn't be expected to sit for 2 hours in an upscale restaurant with nothing to do and not get restless and antsy.

If you want to visit a fancypants restaurant, get a sitter. If you can't find one, go elsewhere where it's kid appropriate. Be considerate of your fellow diners. They have a reasonable expectation for their dining experience to be a pleasant one.
 
2013-01-18 05:02:22 PM

moonscatter: I don't think you should have to put up with bad anybody behavior, at a restaurant or a movie theatre. I can't remember the last time I went to a theatre, it's been so long (and its usually the adults texting or talking through the movie that drove me insane). In general, it seems like people are less polite and courteous than they once were, and I'm not sure where that is coming from. It spills over to kids being allowed to misbehave at a restaurant and people texting throughout dinner.


I actually have a theory as to why people, in general, are less courteous and considerate. Stress.  And that's just across the board. I see people act like they will simply DIE if they don't get down the grocery aisle first - it's not like the store is going to run out of milk, but they'll all but shove you out of the way. People yelling out car windows or driving aggressively. Being rude to cashiers/servers. Just generally being assholes, and allowing their kids to be as well.  But, like I said, stress.

Years of worrying about work/being out of work, or working harder than ever just to hold that job down, trying to stretch paychecks a little further every week, the ever-depressing and fear-mongering news cycle, over a decade of war, a very divided country on social issues,  I think it's getting to people, and it's making us ruder as a society.  (Being available 24 hours a day isn't helping, either. There are so  many nights I'll get something work-related well past work hours and it's not even urgent - people have just come to expect it.) (I'm not a brain surgeon or fire fighter, nothing I do is ever dire urgent.)

That's my theory, anyway. Well, that and it's much easier to let your kids do whatever they want, as opposed to disciplining them. That whole generation that wasn't spanked and was sent to "time out" and rarely punished is having kids and they are raising them like they were raised.  I don't really see any of this getting much better, unfortunately.

/Damn. I hate when I sound old. I'm still 22 and cool in my mind.
 
2013-01-18 05:03:01 PM
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2013-01-18 05:03:30 PM

KrustyKitten: To get this straight, if I am being seated with my party near a table with small children and I ask the host or hostess if there is another space available, are there parents out there that would take that personally and think I'm an asshole for requesting another table?


No. I don't think so. Personally, I like for people who don't want to be around me to move as far awa as they can, no matter the reason. I think the issue here is that the child is disabled. The best part of us would like for people to be more tolerant and less biatchy about the small stuff. Your life must really be something if hearing a child make noise while you eat "destroys" your meal. We share the planet with billions of other people. Get used to it.
 
2013-01-18 05:06:27 PM

serpent_sky: moonscatter: I don't think you should have to put up with bad anybody behavior, at a restaurant or a movie theatre. I can't remember the last time I went to a theatre, it's been so long (and its usually the adults texting or talking through the movie that drove me insane). In general, it seems like people are less polite and courteous than they once were, and I'm not sure where that is coming from. It spills over to kids being allowed to misbehave at a restaurant and people texting throughout dinner.

I actually have a theory as to why people, in general, are less courteous and considerate. Stress.  And that's just across the board. I see people act like they will simply DIE if they don't get down the grocery aisle first - it's not like the store is going to run out of milk, but they'll all but shove you out of the way. People yelling out car windows or driving aggressively. Being rude to cashiers/servers. Just generally being assholes, and allowing their kids to be as well.  But, like I said, stress.

Years of worrying about work/being out of work, or working harder than ever just to hold that job down, trying to stretch paychecks a little further every week, the ever-depressing and fear-mongering news cycle, over a decade of war, a very divided country on social issues,  I think it's getting to people, and it's making us ruder as a society.  (Being available 24 hours a day isn't helping, either. There are so  many nights I'll get something work-related well past work hours and it's not even urgent - people have just come to expect it.) (I'm not a brain surgeon or fire fighter, nothing I do is ever dire urgent.)

That's my theory, anyway. Well, that and it's much easier to let your kids do whatever they want, as opposed to disciplining them. That whole generation that wasn't spanked and was sent to "time out" and rarely punished is having kids and they are raising them like they were raised.  I don't really see any of this getting much better, unfortunately.

/Damn ...


I think you may be onto something, at least as to stress. My clients expect me to be able to respond to them 24/7 even when the world won't end if I don't. I don't mind a certain amount of hand-holding, it comes with the territory, but having to interrupt a dinner at Commander's Palace to sneak into the bathroom to reply to an email was just ridiculous. Thankfully, the waiter took pity on my husband and spotted him a scotch. I actually had to give three months notice to be able to take a week of vacation with the family and not have to bring my laptop and cell with me "just in case."
 
2013-01-18 05:07:52 PM
 
2013-01-18 05:08:17 PM

Richard Saunders: uncleacid: Your tard wants steak.

+1 - would LOL again.

/has special needs grandkid
//still would LOL again


I put on my sneakers so when the lighting bolt came through the ceiling I'd be grounded.
 
2013-01-18 05:14:24 PM
augustacare.co.uk

"After that experience, fark restaurants. I'm doing my own cooking from now on."
 
2013-01-18 05:14:25 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: serpent_sky: ***snip***

Agreed. I asked to be moved once because the special needs kid was throwing a non-stop screaming hissy fit and throwing food at other diners. At one point, he swept everything off the table (dishes and all) onto the floor in a fit of rage.


To be fair, those dishes had it coming, the thing with the pants, though, I may have gone too far there.
 
2013-01-18 05:15:04 PM

twistofsin: DROxINxTHExWIND: On behalf of everyone in the thread who has a special needs child I'd like to offer a big "fark yooooou" to all of the clowns who think making fun of the disabled is funny. Yeah, I get it. You're a pussy in the real world who never can gather the balls to say what you think so you use the anonymity of the internet to put on a fake George Carlin impression. But, I'm just here to tell you that the shiat is weak. The folks who are here laughing with you have the same inferiority issues that you have so they're also here seeking validation by grabbing at the low hanging fruit. Most of them are losers just like you. If you all could see one another, you'd be embarrassed by the company that you keep. No, I don't have a special needs child. By GODs grace, my children are healthy. I just thought this would be a good time to remind you cowards that you're nothing like the person that you try to be on the internet. And that may be good because your internet persona is stupid, too. Please don't take this as the angry rant of some PC guy. I'm not not angry at you, I pity you.

You know what the problem with other peoples sense of humor is?

Nothing. Pull the stick out of your ass and laugh a little.


Most of this shiat isn't "joking", its people with superiority complexes making mean-spirited remarks about defenseless children. I'll laugh when you say something funny.
 
2013-01-18 05:15:14 PM

Dixon Cider: serpent_sky: durbnpoisn: Secondly... I didn't mean to imply that I was offended by people moving. I was just pointing out that it happens quite frequently. And I seriously cannot take offense to someone wanting to move away. I'm confused by their lack of tolerance, but that's about it.

Some of us just don't like kids, and especially, the sounds they make. When out, we realize we will encounter them, but try to avoid them as much as possible.  You need to understand that people like me aren't going to "family" restaurants and complaining there are families there. That's just stupid and poor planning. But if I'm sitting down to a nice meal and a couple of glasses of wine, damned straight I don't want to hear a kid cry or whine or make noise or play or any of that.  You're more tolerant of it because you're used to it. To those of us never around kids, their sounds are worse nails on a chalkboard and are not cute or endearing.  The fact that people can't understand that confuses me.

So your parents never took you out in public, as you grew up?
I am guessing it was a decision we all can agree with...

But, please feel free to complaint about something you did at one time in your life.
Yeah we know, it's all about you.


No, evidently it's all about YOU and your kids, and fark anyone who wants to have a nice, quiet meal.

My mom took me to restaurants early on, and if I didn't behave and be quiet, we were outta there. After a few talking-tos (and an ass beating or two), I learned.

Now, it's different with a special needs kid, but it really doesn't make any difference...if your farking child is disturbing other people's night out, get them THE FARK OUT. NOW.

I honestly don't understand why parents can't figure this out.
 
2013-01-18 05:16:54 PM

TimGuy: serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.

I agree, this reads like one of those bs facebook stories, and the consumerist isn't really a viable news source


I know, right? I was just waiting for the "Please LIKE and SHARE this page to show your support for disabled children!"
 
2013-01-18 05:17:30 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: The Muthaship: urbangirl: Pretty sure Uranus was making a li'l joke. I know I was.

Yeah, sorry. It's just that that particular joke appears in every thread that involves working in the food service industry in any way. And it's not really a joke, since it happens all the time. And if it didn't happen all the time, it still lacks what most people would consider humor. I mean, we're talking about a passive aggressive act of revenge. It's not high comedy.

Unlike the biting commentary you've contributed.

You come to Fark looking for high comedy. lol

Get a load of Little Lord Fauntleroy.


LOL' SNORT' LOL!!!
 
2013-01-18 05:20:20 PM

serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.


I worked with special needs folks for a decade. I took a teenager in a wheelchair to the circus. He didn't make a sound, just sat in his chair smiling. The moment we took our seat, two different couples scowled at us and moved to new seats far away. There may be some exaggeration in the article posted, but don't underestimate how big of assbags people can be. Some folks just can't stand being near the disabled.
 
2013-01-18 05:20:49 PM
Incoming CSB:

I was flying home from deployment when some little bastard kept kicking the back of my seat. It was a rhythmic kick, pause, kick, pause, kick, pause. I grumbled and made my displeasure known a few times, and the mother would say something to the kid and he'd stop for awhile. Then it would start again five minutes later with the kick, pause, kick, pause. After a couple hours of this I'd had enough, so I pushed the seat recline button, leaned forward, and waited. Right as the little shiat was kicking I SLAMMED my chair back. I felt a very satisfying contact and the kid balled for a few minutes. The mother gave me a look like I was the devil, but her brat didn't kick my seat again.

I know the stories not completely germane, but it's sure to piss off the people who seem to think the rest of us just need to put up with their ill-behaved spawn.
 
2013-01-18 05:21:17 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.

Sorry, I have a son who is autisitic (non-verbal). Other than his inability to speak and some slow developed social skills, just looking at him you can't tell. Last week in Target he was walking through the toy aisles and I was following him, he was doing his normal low level hum that keeps him happy and kind of sounds like he's humming a song. A little boy did a double take on him as he passed and his mom tells him "don't pay attention to him, he's 'special'"

So I looked at the boy and said "that's right, your mom thinks my kid is special, and apparently doesn't think the same of you!"

She gave me a very bad stink eye and walked off.

Some people have no farking courtesy and ALWAYS assume the worst. I've waited tables on people that you could just tell from the time they sat down that NOTHING was going to be right, no matter how good the service, food, drinks, etc. It's a superiority thing.


Oh, I see. It is a horrible act for the mother of that little boy to whisk her son away and make such a vile statement. However, it is OK to to tell a complete stranger's little kid that he is not special to his mom. That is a great way to get her back! Did you run over their family dog in the parking lot just for emphasis?
 
2013-01-18 05:25:01 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: KrustyKitten: To get this straight, if I am being seated with my party near a table with small children and I ask the host or hostess if there is another space available, are there parents out there that would take that personally and think I'm an asshole for requesting another table?

No. I don't think so. Personally, I like for people who don't want to be around me to move as far awa as they can, no matter the reason. I think the issue here is that the child is disabled. The best part of us would like for people to be more tolerant and less biatchy about the small stuff. Your life must really be something if hearing a child make noise while you eat "destroys" your meal. We share the planet with billions of other people. Get used to it.


It would never occur to me to stare at a child long enough to determine if they were disabled or not. That does seem pretty asshole-ish and a little beyond where a reasonable person would go in a situation like the one described.

I do my best to avoid situations where I may disturb other parties or other parties annoy me - better for everyone to recognize limits within ourselves and be as proactive as reasonably possible to keep everyone (me, parents, kids) mellow.
 
2013-01-18 05:27:04 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: twistofsin: DROxINxTHExWIND: On behalf of everyone in the thread who has a special needs child I'd like to offer a big "fark yooooou" to all of the clowns who think making fun of the disabled is funny. Yeah, I get it. You're a pussy in the real world who never can gather the balls to say what you think so you use the anonymity of the internet to put on a fake George Carlin impression. But, I'm just here to tell you that the shiat is weak. The folks who are here laughing with you have the same inferiority issues that you have so they're also here seeking validation by grabbing at the low hanging fruit. Most of them are losers just like you. If you all could see one another, you'd be embarrassed by the company that you keep. No, I don't have a special needs child. By GODs grace, my children are healthy. I just thought this would be a good time to remind you cowards that you're nothing like the person that you try to be on the internet. And that may be good because your internet persona is stupid, too. Please don't take this as the angry rant of some PC guy. I'm not not angry at you, I pity you.

You know what the problem with other peoples sense of humor is?

Nothing. Pull the stick out of your ass and laugh a little.

Most of this shiat isn't "joking", its people with superiority complexes making mean-spirited remarks about defenseless children. I'll laugh when you say something funny.


Welcome to Fark?
 
2013-01-18 05:29:15 PM
My husband and I were recently in a family restaurant and the hostess seated us in a separate room that had ten tables shoved together for a child's birthday party, and one table for two.

NFW was I staying there.
 
2013-01-18 05:31:14 PM

WinoRhino: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Agreed. I asked to be moved once because the special needs kid was throwing a non-stop screaming hissy fit and throwing food at other diners. At one point, he swept everything off the table (dishes and all) onto the floor in a fit of rage.

I'm going to call bullshiat on your story. You're suggesting that the parents and the restaurant simply sighed and let that happen, huh? And you graciously did as well, only asking to be moved, huh? Nope. Never happened.


Parents who don't do a thing about their kids throwing a fit and wrecking stuff, pretending not to notice, are all too common. That's entirely separate from the whole "special needs" issue.
 
2013-01-18 05:39:16 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: On behalf of everyone in the thread who has a special needs child I'd like to offer a big "fark yooooou" to all of the clowns who think making fun of the disabled is funny. Yeah, I get it. You're a pussy in the real world who never can gather the balls to say what you think so you use the anonymity of the internet to put on a fake George Carlin impression. But, I'm just here to tell you that the shiat is weak. The folks who are here laughing with you have the same inferiority issues that you have so they're also here seeking validation by grabbing at the low hanging fruit. Most of them are losers just like you. If you all could see one another, you'd be embarrassed by the company that you keep. No, I don't have a special needs child. By GODs grace, my children are healthy. I just thought this would be a good time to remind you cowards that you're nothing like the person that you try to be on the internet. And that may be good because your internet persona is stupid, too. Please don't take this as the angry rant of some PC guy. I'm not not angry at you, I pity you.


I agree, I hope they're joking.
 
2013-01-18 05:40:19 PM

oh_please: Dixon Cider: serpent_sky: durbnpoisn: Secondly... I didn't mean to imply that I was offended by people moving. I was just pointing out that it happens quite frequently. And I seriously cannot take offense to someone wanting to move away. I'm confused by their lack of tolerance, but that's about it.

Some of us just don't like kids, and especially, the sounds they make. When out, we realize we will encounter them, but try to avoid them as much as possible.  You need to understand that people like me aren't going to "family" restaurants and complaining there are families there. That's just stupid and poor planning. But if I'm sitting down to a nice meal and a couple of glasses of wine, damned straight I don't want to hear a kid cry or whine or make noise or play or any of that.  You're more tolerant of it because you're used to it. To those of us never around kids, their sounds are worse nails on a chalkboard and are not cute or endearing.  The fact that people can't understand that confuses me.

So your parents never took you out in public, as you grew up?
I am guessing it was a decision we all can agree with...

But, please feel free to complaint about something you did at one time in your life.
Yeah we know, it's all about you.

No, evidently it's all about YOU and your kids, and fark anyone who wants to have a nice, quiet meal.

My mom took me to restaurants early on, and if I didn't behave and be quiet, we were outta there. After a few talking-tos (and an ass beating or two), I learned.

Now, it's different with a special needs kid, but it really doesn't make any difference...if your farking child is disturbing other people's night out, get them THE FARK OUT. NOW.

I honestly don't understand why parents can't figure this out.


LOL.. I comment and now it's about me? I wasn't sobbing like a middle school girl because my precious world was rocked by someone being loud.
I guess if I had a child, that might start to come close to something realistic... but, it is very far from the truth.
Seems you have an inherent misunderstanding of what a civilized society really is. It's about everyone.. not just you and you extremely sensitive feelers.

But hey, you got the "Self Deploying Butthurt" thing all covered up... Keep up the good work, Scooter!
 
2013-01-18 05:48:01 PM
I only ask to be reseated if there are French people at the next table. Special needs kids are tolerable though.
 
2013-01-18 05:53:19 PM

th0rr: serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.

I believe it. When my 3 kids were very young we went to a restaurant, nothing fancy just a chain, and were seated next to this old guy who was just served his food. My kids were very well behaved and not fussing. Not even 2 minutes goes by and he starts on this heavy sighing kick. We just ignore him and keep discussing the menu with the kids. He calls a waitress over and asks for the bill. Mind you he's only had about 4 bites. She looks surprised asking him if everything is ok. He just says he would like the bill. She give it to him and he as he is walking out he then stops at our table and no shiat just stands there an stares. For about a full 30 secs. I just stared back. The he just walked out. Never said a word. The waitress then comes over to apologize saying she has no idea what that was about. We blew it off and enjoyed our meal.

Creepy bastard too. Dressed all in black with a big ole' silver necklace worn on the outside. A very bad black rug on his head upon which a black baseball cap perched. Very weird.

/CSB
//Holy shiat! It just hit me!
/// I think we interrupted Deaths meal!


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-18 05:53:52 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: I only ask to be reseated if there are French people at the next table. Special needs kids are tolerable though.


Who can eat with all that surrender stink just wafting around?
 
2013-01-18 05:56:04 PM
I suspect that there is more to the story. Here is my scenario. Couple decides to have a nice dinner out somewhere. They want a nice quiet evening and the asshats in the next booth refuse/can't to control their children (regardless of if the kid is downey or some other disability) They asked to be moved and make a comment in then general opinion that people should control their wards regardless of the condition of the ward and if that ward is going to act out and ruin others peoples dining then they should stay home.

Hero? .. no.
 
2013-01-18 05:56:31 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: I only ask to be reseated if there are French people at the next table. Special needs kids are tolerable though.


I only eat in restaurants that have clear "No French People Allowed" signs. You can never be too safe.
 
2013-01-18 05:56:43 PM

Dixon Cider: I wasn't sobbing like a middle school girl because my precious world was rocked by someone being loud.


i would sob like a school girl. i hate loud noises. but, whenever i'm threatened at a restaurant by loud noises, i usually leave. usually it's music, not children. but whatever. i don't care about the cause. i figure it's my problem, so I fix it by leaving. and fark it, there are a lot of other good restaurants in town.

/ actually, i only hate loud noises by proxy. my wife hates loud noises, and then she asks me to do something about it, and i really really hate doing something about it. i'd rather leave then tell someone to shut up. and she's not allowed to tell people to shut up, because unleashing her is like dropping the bomb. as i've said of her many times, she's the one who knocks (yeah, our neighbors love us -- well, actually, 9 out of 10 of our neighbors love us. the other 'loud' one... not so much)

// either way, children and those with special needs are rarely, if ever, a problem at the places where I eat. sometimes children can be obnoxious at movie theaters, but movie theaters are hell anyway, so what's the use trying to enjoy yourself there.
/// uh... i only meant to reply that i would sob like a school girl... got a little cared away thinking about food and restaurants and good and bad experiences in restaurants.
 
2013-01-18 06:06:17 PM

Caelistis: blatz514: "Thank you to the waiter for standing up for those who can't! job well done!"

I thought downys had super strength or something.

Only when they go sex nuts and retard strong. Then you end up in a struggle to the death to keep them from jamming your cock in their mouth.


How many of them have you killed?
 
2013-01-18 06:08:59 PM

ThighsofGlory: Caelistis: blatz514: "Thank you to the waiter for standing up for those who can't! job well done!"

I thought downys had super strength or something.

Only when they go sex nuts and retard strong. Then you end up in a struggle to the death to keep them from jamming your cock in their mouth.

How many of them have you killed pretended to resist?


Fixed
 
2013-01-18 06:09:59 PM

blatz514: "Thank you to the waiter for standing up for those who can't! job well done!"

I thought downys had super strength or something.


They have Retard Strength which makes them about three times more powerful than "normal" people. Just ask Randall from Clerks 2. What if one busted into the restroom and orally raped him? He couldn't defend against that.

Those people were hateful assholes. What surprised me is that they are such simpletons they thought it was socially acceptable to make such a comment. Seems to me they're the ones who are special needs instead of the unfortunate "intellectually challenged" boy.

Speaking of "intellectually challenged", am I the only person that finds this new PC term more offensive than the old one? It's as if they're implying that the mentally retard cant be sophisticated.
 
2013-01-18 06:10:35 PM

serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.


No, Down's Syndrome kids have visible differences. It's entirely possible the other folks knew from the get-go, and once the waiter told them off, felt ashamed. You see it happen sometimes with racism, too. If it's visible, people will be assholes about it.

/The kid probably sounds a bit different, too, and moves differently. Sometimes it's very easy to tell who has Down's. Don't underestimate the power of humans to be assholes.
 
2013-01-18 06:23:39 PM
I'm sick of impatient adults who can't handle a little kid noise, and equally as sick of children, any children, being expected to behave like little robots. Screw 'em. Screw'em all.
 
2013-01-18 06:26:55 PM

Dixon Cider: Seems you have an inherent misunderstanding of what a civilized society really is. It's about everyone


Exactly. If people go to a restaurant (not McDonalds), people have a reasonable expectation to have a nice meal. Now, if those people are irritated by hollering children, the meal sucks, and it's because of your kids that you CAN'T farkING CONTROL.

Because you bring your kids to a restaurant, and can't control them, everyone else has to suffer. It's about everyone, right?

This is why chain restaurants are going out of business.

Take that shiat to Golden Corral.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:01 PM

serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.


Well, alright there, Columbo.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:55 PM

serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.



I can believe it. Absolutely.

I'm uncomfortable around "special" kids. They bother me quite a bit, because to me they seem like a partial person... They hit me square in the uncanny valley. The thing is, I'm fully aware that it's MY own personal issue, so I do NOT bother anyone else just because I have this stupid hangup. I exercise this crazy thing called "self control" and keep my dumbass mouth tightly farking shut, stay polite and do my damndest to not give an inkling of how uncomfortable I am. I keep those feelings about being uncomfortable to my damn self, because ruining someone else's day over something they didn't ask for and can't control in one of their kids would make me a complete and utter a-hole. That, and because I live in a society and don't believe I have some special right to not be uncomfortable from time to time, like a lot of people seem to think.

I'm not proud of it, but that's how it is and at least I'm not a dick about it. The only person on the planet who knows who I am and knows how I feel about this is my wife, and that's it.

Thing is, I'm fully aware that many many many people do not have that same (or any) level of self control, and that people who do have those kinds of hang-ups are going to often (though obviously not always) be the same kind of a-holes who'd have no problem expressing those thoughts because they don't think they're in the wrong in any way.

So yeah... I could definitely believe this story. Sadly.
 
2013-01-18 06:29:19 PM

lickmydiction: I'm sick of impatient adults who can't handle a little kid noise, and equally as sick of children, any children, being expected to behave like little robots. Screw 'em. Screw'em all.


Chuckie Cheese, agreed.
Upscale steak house, not so much.
Dumpster behind my house, depends the night.
 
2013-01-18 06:30:14 PM

oh_please: Take that shiat to Golden Corral.


They should rename that place The Filthy Trough.

Accidentally went their with Mrs Uranus once. It looked liked a food fight was in progress.
 
2013-01-18 06:41:18 PM

serpent_sky: This story doesn't add up. For NO reason whatsoever, other than the kid was sitting there, they asked to be moved?  I find it hard to believe. There was noise or some other disturbance, more likely than not, which is a fair reason to ask to move tables regardless of how special needs the kid is.  If there was no noise, no anything, then they were assholes of a very high order... but...
IF they were such assholes of such a high order,  that the waiter decided not to serve them... they just left? Without making  scene? Complaining to the manager? No demanding the waiter be fired? That seems unlikely if they were the horrible people we're supposed to believe they were.

Simply put: I don't believe any of this happened as described.


Unfortunately I've seen it in action. When I worked at Sizzler (ages ago, good riddance), I had *SEVERAL* very similar experiences.

"Can't they sit somewhere else? I don't trust Chinks" said one foul old bastard who never tipped.

ME: "You're welcome to choose a different seat, sir." (He moved, I was in no hurry to refill anything for his racist ass and happily took the reduction from his usual $.50 tip on a $12 meal. But the Koreans in question, who were close enough to hear him, and I somehow "accidentally" brought them dessert they didn't order.)

"I don't want the salad bar, that retarded guy might go near it." (High functioning yet obviously disabled dude overheard him, and as he limped over to the salad bar, said "Here I go, spreading my retard cooties. Good thing I cant catch ugly from other people!" He got extra fries with his order and happily ate his ever-full fried shrimp until the guy left. "That guy was a real dummy. I feel sorry for him, at least I know I'm not all there!" I *loved* that dude.)

So yeah, people are assholes.
 
2013-01-18 06:53:42 PM

oh_please: Dixon Cider: Seems you have an inherent misunderstanding of what a civilized society really is. It's about everyone

Exactly. If people go to a restaurant (not McDonalds), people have a reasonable expectation to have a nice meal. Now, if those people are irritated by hollering children, the meal sucks, and it's because of your kids that you CAN'T farkING CONTROL.

Because you bring your kids to a restaurant, and can't control them, everyone else has to suffer. It's about everyone, right?

This is why chain restaurants are going out of business.

Take that shiat to Golden Corral.


You keep acting as if children are the biggest problem. Hint: They're not.
 
2013-01-18 07:02:42 PM

I Like Shiny Things: The normal people at the other table would not have had a problem unless this challenged kid was doing something extremely offensive.

We need legislation that would allow the restaurant management to easily deal with problems like this.


No, actually. Customers are horrible. And they save their worst behavior for situations where they believe the "customer is always right" is the law and must be obeyed.

People routinely do appalling things in public and they ignore wait and other service staff. The comments people make are astounding.

And let's be fair here: for some folks, being around people with disabilities makes them very uncomfortable. It can leave you on edge because you know on some level that your expectations for their behavior MAY be utterly wrong. Ask anyone in a wheelchair or with some obvious disability (missing leg or whatever, up to and including the morbidly obese 600+ plus people) how often they get stares and awkwardness.

I could be charitable and entertain the notion that they asked to be moved because they simply were uncomfortable where they were -- but in most cases, especially family places, you have to work pretty hard to piss of a waiter and even harder to be shown the door.

"Would you mind if we moved tables? Ordinarily it wouldn't be a big deal but it's a little loud over hear and I've had a very long day." is a different sort of request then "I'd really prefer not to sit next to that table." The net result is the same, but the first allows everyone to save face -- you want to move because the table is disturbing you, but you're not being a turd about it.

And as I said, I've seen such behavior far too often in real life. Most often blatant racism, but people treat disabled folks different and think of them differently and that's a fact.
 
2013-01-18 07:04:36 PM
Fake.

I bet the waiter was a girl from Damascus.
 
2013-01-18 07:10:23 PM

pciszek: WinoRhino: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Agreed. I asked to be moved once because the special needs kid was throwing a non-stop screaming hissy fit and throwing food at other diners. At one point, he swept everything off the table (dishes and all) onto the floor in a fit of rage.

I'm going to call bullshiat on your story. You're suggesting that the parents and the restaurant simply sighed and let that happen, huh? And you graciously did as well, only asking to be moved, huh? Nope. Never happened.

Parents who don't do a thing about their kids throwing a fit and wrecking stuff, pretending not to notice, are all too common. That's entirely separate from the whole "special needs" issue.


This.

Special needs kids get a pass, to some extent, but honestly MOST kids are decent enough if their parents make any effort at all to control them. They want attention, usually, but some kids really have no idea about volume control and it doesn't take TOO much effort to coach them.

A particularly brave waiter might even engage the kid with a "Hey, buddy! Are you having fun? Hey, can you do me a favor? Can you whisper? Awesome -- so you whisper to mom and dad, and every time I come to your table, I'll whisper to you. Okay?"

I got a rambunctious four-year-old to quiet down with that for most of a meal, and all it took was a whispered "you're doing great, look how proud your mom is!" every time I passed.
 
2013-01-18 07:12:08 PM

doubled99: WhippingBoy

I have two special needs kids. One thing that you quickly develop is a thick skin; I tend to not care what anyone thinks (within reason) anymore.

Maybe you should stop farking your sister


Maybe you should take your own advice.
 
2013-01-18 07:13:52 PM

WhippingBoy: oh_please: Dixon Cider: Seems you have an inherent misunderstanding of what a civilized society really is. It's about everyone

Exactly. If people go to a restaurant (not McDonalds), people have a reasonable expectation to have a nice meal. Now, if those people are irritated by hollering children, the meal sucks, and it's because of your kids that you CAN'T farkING CONTROL.

Because you bring your kids to a restaurant, and can't control them, everyone else has to suffer. It's about everyone, right?

This is why chain restaurants are going out of business.

Take that shiat to Golden Corral.

You keep acting as if children are the biggest problem. Hint: They're not.


You're right. They're not.
 
2013-01-18 07:21:09 PM

umad: doubled99: WhippingBoy

I have two special needs kids. One thing that you quickly develop is a thick skin; I tend to not care what anyone thinks (within reason) anymore.

Maybe you should stop farking your sister

Maybe you should take your own advice.


Uh... I didn't say that second thing. And who I fark is no business of yours anyway, tyvm!
 
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