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(Fox News)   Whole Foods CEO John Mackey would like all of the tree-hugging liberals who shop at his stores to know that he wasn't being serious when he used the word "fascism" to describe Obamacare   (foxnews.com ) divider line 332
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2013-01-18 02:55:42 PM  

master_dman: The only people who seem to know, and/or care that more taxes and regulations and rules are hurting businesses are people who either own businesses, or work and don't suck off the taxpayers teat.


You don't think that corporations suck off of taxpayer teats? Hahahahahaha!
 
2013-01-18 02:56:15 PM  
www.eurweb.com
 
2013-01-18 02:57:11 PM  

jaytkay: Last time this was in the new, teabaggers/freepers/etc were vowing online to do ALL their shopping at Whole Foods.

Imagine their reaction when they walked in and found no Bacon 'n' Cheese Chicken Nuggets with Dippin' Sauce.

lol conservatives lol


Everyone is in for a rude awakening when they realize that making government responsible for our health, makes it their business what you eat, as health is directly related to nutrition and what you put into your body. In fact, it's very nearly the only thing that matters.
 
2013-01-18 02:59:42 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101. All power to the state, none to the individual. And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system? Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole? To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them. A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.


Aww, honey, you're not even entertaining. Bless your heart.
 
2013-01-18 03:01:23 PM  
I used to avoid it since it was over priced but I really like this guy. Unfortunately I'll have to stomach all of the middle class kids with dreadlocks, Prius's, Obama stickers, in order to shop there.
 
2013-01-18 03:02:18 PM  

JohnnyC: Yeah... backpedal all you want, John Mackey. Perhaps in the future you will refrain from expressing your ridiculous opinions in public. I don't believe for a second that he didn't mean it. Bottom line is... he doesn't want to provide healthcare to his employees and thus may eat a bowl of dicks.


Because as you and the other 149 people who have posted in this thread so far know, people should not express their opinions.
 
2013-01-18 03:02:34 PM  

sigdiamond2000: ha-ha-guy: What a farking moron, a large portion of his customers shop there and pay higher prices for two reasons:

1. The food selection, especially meat and seafood.
2. The belief the workers aren't treated like subhuman serfs al al Walmart
(3. The high prices keep the riffraff out.)

I shop there because they have awesome food bars and prepared foods, and they are the only grocery store in the history of humankind who actually understands how to properly run an express checkout lane.

That last point alone is worth paying Whole Foods prices to me.

By the way, I've know some people who have worked at Whole Foods and it actually sounds like an awful place to work. Trader Joe's on the other hand is supposed to be a great place to work.


This. I have a friend who has worked at Trader Joe's for years. He's paid well and has good benefits. He genuinely seems to enjoy his job.

Also, Two Buck Chuck.

/suck it, haters
 
2013-01-18 03:02:41 PM  
This is the same Whole Foods CEO who dogging competitor Wild Oats on stock forums to drive the price down for an acquisition?
Anybody got a compilation of stupid things he's said?
 
2013-01-18 03:03:28 PM  

nexxus: What, you can dish it out but can't take it? You've threadshiat all over the place with strawmen and direct ad-hominem attacks to myself and others in the thread. You don't even have the intelligence to be amused at the unintentional irony of your plea for rational discussion. Unless you're just trolling, which is always a possibility here.

60/40 troll/serious.

I do believe it's wrong to force people to do anything.. including give up their money .. at gun point, however.


nexxus: Carn: fuhfuhfuh: You would think that all of these stalwarts of capitalism would have learned by now that your personal views can have a negative impact on your bottom line if said views are derogatory to large portions of your customer base.

Kind of amusing that they all have to be reminded the hard way that they are not the only game in town, and that their services, while convenient, aren't exactly required.

It doesn't matter how large of your customer base it is. A good capitalist wouldn't say anything that could lose him even one customer. You might lose a customer or two across all stores, or more likely, you've probably got some stores in more liberal areas which will be much harder hit than others, possibly leading to layoffs or in extreme cases, store closures. Any way you slice it this proves his man isn't capable of leading a company and should be fired immediately.

A good capitalist will express himself if he feels that his long term interests are best served by doing so. In this case, he's right: 'your' wacko, liberal, bias toward[1] government control (and yes, that *is* what it is..even if only 'partial' through 'a few' regulations - it *is* control) will eventually put him out of business or so far under the thumb of government that he might as well be out of business[2]. Speaking out is the only rational thing to do and shows that he's a man of courage and integrity, unlike most of you liberal farkwits who blow whichever way the wind does[3]. Shame he caved.

You clearly have no idea what capitalism is, or what you're doing to the world. God help us all.[4]


Alright Captain Obtuse, here's the breakdown (bolded, with reference numbers above:
1) Both a strawman and an ad-hominem. My comment that you were replying to was a general comment regarding how the CEO of a company should behave. Taking it on its own does not logically lead one to believe I have some bias, except perhaps corporatist/capitalist.
2) Strawman. Citation or this is is just complete bullshiat conjecture on your part which has nothing to do with reality.
3) Ad-hominem.
4) Ad-hominem (you have no idea), strawman (what you're doing to the world) and just to top it off, a bit of nonsense at the end.

So, seeing as how your post was riddled with logical fallacies and added nothing to any discussion, I originally felt that the best way to respond, rather than pointing out the fallacies, was to make a funny verse using your most often used logical fallacy above to the tune of Particle Man. We done here?
 
2013-01-18 03:04:02 PM  

Corvus: He said he was trying to describe "government-controlled health care," or "the opposite of free-enterprise capitalism."


That's a lie. It's not "government controlled". Having some regulations is not "government controlled" does he believe doctors need to be licensed is "fascism" too? Because according to him that's "government control" also. I wish some reporter would actually grow a pair and call people out how make these retarded statements.


Government tells you what you can buy, tells you you have to buy, makes the products illegal unless they approve, and even determines what level of care you get.

Seems like government controlled to me.
 
2013-01-18 03:04:22 PM  
Curious to see if there will be a mass exodus from the Whole Foods in Berkeley to the superior Berkeley Bowl.
 
2013-01-18 03:04:38 PM  
If he doesn't like America any more, he's free to leave.
 
2013-01-18 03:04:43 PM  

urbangirl: WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101. All power to the state, none to the individual. And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system? Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole? To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them. A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.

Aww, honey, you're not even entertaining. Bless your heart.


I guess I don't see what was wrong with what he said.

Let's break it down:
* 'Obamacare and stripping gunrights = Fascism.' Clear there's a debate here, so it's a reasonable statement relating his point of view.
* 'All power to the state, none to the individual.' The state is taking more power and you're left with less. QED.
* 'And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system?' Legitimate question.
* 'Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole?' I can't imagine anyone thinks the people who work in government aren't, by and large, idiots. Obamacare does increase 'dole'.
* 'To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them.' You can't, and it is a shame.
* 'A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me.' This does happen, and it is too bad you can't talk to them.
* 'Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.' Maybe he shouldn't have called you idiots (though it does apply, mostly), but you do cheer when your freedoms are stripped away. Makes no sense to me.

Again, I don't see the problem. Care to respond point-by-point, hon?
 
2013-01-18 03:06:16 PM  
"Third law: When a first body exerts a force F1 on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force F2 = −F1 on the first body. This means that F1 and F2 are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction."

Election do in fact have consequences. Enjoy it, you asked for it.
 
2013-01-18 03:06:37 PM  
Man...some people really hate it when those who are less fortunate than them get ANY kind of benefits whatsoever. It just burns them up inside to see other people happy and healthy.
 
2013-01-18 03:06:38 PM  

Carn: nexxus: That his "cave" serves his long term interests. So you really shouldn't think it's a shame, he's being a good capitalist by your own terms.

Maybe his job/position was threatened. We all know you liberal pansies can't handle alternate viewpoints or have a rational discussion, despite your professions of openness and tolerance. We don't really know why he caved - can only speculate.

He certainly believes what he said originally.

Ad-hominem man, Ad-hominem man
Ad-hominem man meets Straw man
They don't fight
They are good friends
Ad-hominem man


Ad-hominem hominem hominem hominem hominem hominem pow right in the kisser

no point just playing
 
2013-01-18 03:07:39 PM  

nexxus: jaytkay: Last time this was in the new, teabaggers/freepers/etc were vowing online to do ALL their shopping at Whole Foods.

Imagine their reaction when they walked in and found no Bacon 'n' Cheese Chicken Nuggets with Dippin' Sauce.

lol conservatives lol

Everyone is in for a rude awakening when they realize that making government responsible for our health, makes it their business what you eat, as health is directly related to nutrition and what you put into your body. In fact, it's very nearly the only thing that matters.


Your slippery slope is very slippery. The goverment has a vested right to have some responsibility over our heath as it is in our vested interest not to have a defence force that can't run a mile or a workforce to unhealthy to grow our GDP. That is why we have a CDC, DOH, FDA, USDA, etc. So are you saying the Heritage Foundation, who came up with the framework for "Obama/Romney Care" are interested in full government control over our bodies? You probably think Cap and Trade was hatched as a sisnister liberal plot as well.
 
2013-01-18 03:08:27 PM  

nexxus: Everyone is in for a rude awakening when they realize that making government responsible for our health, makes it their business what you eat, as health is directly related to nutrition and what you put into your body. In fact, it's very nearly the only thing that matters.


And this is happening when?
 
2013-01-18 03:08:42 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101. All power to the state, none to the individual. And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system? Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole? To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them. A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.


Hyperbole, how does it work?
 
2013-01-18 03:09:02 PM  

JohnnyC: Yeah... backpedal all you want, John Mackey. Perhaps in the future you will refrain from expressing your ridiculous opinions in public. I don't believe for a second that he didn't mean it. Bottom line is... he doesn't want to provide healthcare to his employees and thus may eat a bowl of dicks.


He has a book out, he is trying to sell his book get it?
 
2013-01-18 03:09:06 PM  
Getting a kick because I applied for a job with them here in Austin. One of the more bizarre experiences I've had. The first interview was great, I met with the manager and one of the technical leads and talked for about an hour. They called me in for my second interview, a group interview with about 8 people, the following week. The second interview was basically a bunch of Aspie's sitting around, trying to out-do each other with completely irrelevant questions that had little or no bearing on what I would have actually been doing. I was glad when it was over, and had no intention of taking the position if it had been offered to me. Just for kicks I did a little internet research about employee satisfaction and found out some interesting information about how they operate, and it's not good. Dodged a bullet.....
 
2013-01-18 03:09:29 PM  

Wook: I used to avoid it since it was over priced but I really like this guy. Unfortunately I'll have to stomach all of the middle class kids with dreadlocks, Prius's, Obama stickers, in order to shop there.


Yah, As long as you don't act like the douche you are here I don't think they will care about you either.
 
2013-01-18 03:09:29 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-18 03:10:22 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101. All power to the state, none to the individual. And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system? Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole? To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them. A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.


3/10 Too obvious, but you could get some action.
 
2013-01-18 03:10:24 PM  
Good thing not a single Farker runs even a decent sized business.

Imagine how long it would last? 100k salary with full benefits for a paper route?
 
2013-01-18 03:10:37 PM  
My favorite part of the interview was when he was asked that if he were allowed input on how to change the bill, what would it be. He essentially drew a blank and just mouthed off "it's fascism" again. Either the changes he has in mind are too Mr. Burns to say out loud or he has no clue what the fark is on the bill.
 
2013-01-18 03:12:08 PM  

Thunderpipes: Good thing not a single Farker runs even a decent sized business.

Imagine how long it would last? 100k salary with full benefits for a paper route?


Do you ever have any clue about what you're talking about ever or do you just puke words until you have something resembling a post?
 
2013-01-18 03:12:08 PM  

nexxus: urbangirl: WhoopAssWayne: Obamacare and stripping our gun rights are both pretty much Fascism 101. All power to the state, none to the individual. And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system? Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole? To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them. A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.

Aww, honey, you're not even entertaining. Bless your heart.

I guess I don't see what was wrong with what he said.

Let's break it down:
* 'Obamacare and stripping gunrights = Fascism.' Clear there's a debate here, so it's a reasonable statement relating his point of view.
* 'All power to the state, none to the individual.' The state is taking more power and you're left with less. QED.
* 'And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system?' Legitimate question.
* 'Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole?' I can't imagine anyone thinks the people who work in government aren't, by and large, idiots. Obamacare does increase 'dole'.
* 'To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them.' You can't, and it is a shame.
* 'A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me.' This does happen, and it is too bad you can't talk to them.
* 'Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.' Maybe ...


Again, I don't see the problem. Care to respond point-by-point, hon?


no thanks. waaayyyy too much spittle in that little screed.
btw, i work in government. i'm intelligent and conscientious and i make a positive difference in people's lives. so i'm going back to work now. have fun, y'all.
 
2013-01-18 03:12:23 PM  

dabbletech: JohnnyC: Yeah... backpedal all you want, John Mackey. Perhaps in the future you will refrain from expressing your ridiculous opinions in public. I don't believe for a second that he didn't mean it. Bottom line is... he doesn't want to provide healthcare to his employees and thus may eat a bowl of dicks.

Because as you and the other 149 people who have posted in this thread so far know, people should not express their opinions.


Oh he is full and well has the right to express his opinion, and we have the right to mock him for it and decide not to give him our service, hence as a CEO he has a feduciary responsibility to his stockholders not to say stupid things and alienate his revenue source.
 
2013-01-18 03:13:58 PM  
The ideal of capitalism as it has been embraced by money/power in this country is the incarnation of capitalism that brings them more money/power while wearing a mask of social and economic altruism.

Appearances matter if the status quo is to be maintained.

He lost sight of that briefly and now worries that the status quo for his slice of the pie may be endangered by letting his mask slip.

Some of us were never fooled by the mask, and gleefully watch him squirm.
 
2013-01-18 03:14:39 PM  
i88.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-18 03:15:52 PM  

Thunderpipes: Good thing not a single Farker runs even a decent sized business.

Imagine how long it would last? 100k salary with full benefits for a paper route?


Well you know, Drew runs a business, not to mentioned you just mass an assumption about thousands of people you don't know. The second sentence would be funny, except that I worry that you actually believe in that strawman (being the person who would do such a thing).
 
2013-01-18 03:16:36 PM  

Carn: Thunderpipes: Good thing not a single Farker runs even a decent sized business.

Imagine how long it would last? 100k salary with full benefits for a paper route?

Well you know, Drew runs a business, not to mentioned you just mass made an assumption about thousands of people you don't know. The second sentence would be funny, except that I worry that you actually believe in that strawman (being the person who would do such a thing).


FTFM
 
2013-01-18 03:20:30 PM  

nexxus: Everyone is in for a rude awakening when they realize that making government responsible for our health, makes it their business what you eat, as health is directly related to nutrition and what you put into your body. In fact, it's very nearly the only thing that matters.


Precisely.

The one that pays the piper calls the tune.
 
2013-01-18 03:20:42 PM  
Yeah, here's the quote:

"I regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it," Mackey told HuffPost Live on Thursday. "Of course, I was just using the standard dictionary definition."


In other words, "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs".

Deal with it.
 
2013-01-18 03:20:48 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: If he doesn't like America any more, he's free to leave.


Leaving isn't free any more.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:26 PM  
urbangirl


Oh, come on, he used QED. He MUST know what he's talking about.


/He's talking about voices in his head......
 
2013-01-18 03:23:10 PM  

JohnnyC: Yeah... backpedal all you want, John Mackey. Perhaps in the future you will refrain from expressing your ridiculous opinions in public. I don't believe for a second that he didn't mean it. Bottom line is... he doesn't want to provide healthcare to his employees and thus may eat a bowl of dicks.


THIS! Perhaps if he was so concerned about having to provide health care to the people who make him his money (since I sincerely doubt he could run that company by himself from the CEO position to the cash register), he should have pushed for SINGLE PAYER health care instead.

Screw him. I've never shopped and Whole Paycheck and I never will.
 
2013-01-18 03:25:27 PM  

ManRay: nexxus: Everyone is in for a rude awakening when they realize that making government responsible for our health, makes it their business what you eat, as health is directly related to nutrition and what you put into your body. In fact, it's very nearly the only thing that matters.

Precisely.

The one that pays the piper calls the tune.


Serious question: Can you point to some examples of this in the countries that have single payer healthcare?
 
2013-01-18 03:26:00 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Is "everyone who shops at Whole Foods is a liberal" the new "everyone who has a hobby is a hipster?"


Evidently.

Looks like you can't just shop at the nearest grocery store anymore without it affecting your political outlook.
 
2013-01-18 03:26:43 PM  

Wook: "Third law: When a first body exerts a force F1 on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force F2 = −F1 on the first body. This means that F1 and F2 are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction."

Election do in fact have consequences. Enjoy it, you asked for it.


We know, the consequences of listening to Republicans cry for another 4 years.
 
2013-01-18 03:27:11 PM  

Carn: A good capitalist will express himself if he feels that his long term interests are best served by doing so. In this case, he's right: 'your' wacko, liberal, bias toward[1] government control (and yes, that *is* what it is..even if only 'partial' through 'a few' regulations - it *is* control) will eventually put him out of business or so far under the thumb of government that he might as well be out of business[2]. Speaking out is the only rational thing to do and shows that he's a man of courage and integrity, unlike most of you liberal farkwits who blow whichever way the wind does[3]. Shame he caved.

You clearly have no idea what capitalism is, or what you're doing to the world. God help us all.[4]

Alright Captain Obtuse, here's the breakdown (bolded, with reference numbers above:
1) Both a strawman and an ad-hominem. My comment that you were replying to was a general comment regarding how the CEO of a company should behave. Taking it on its own does not logically lead one to believe I have some bias, except perhaps corporatist/capitalist.
2) Strawman. Citation or this is is just complete bullshiat conjecture on your part which has nothing to do with reality.
3) Ad-hominem.
4) Ad-hominem (you have no idea), strawman (what you're doing to the world) and just to top it off, a bit of nonsense at the end.

So, seeing as how your post was riddled with logical fallacies and added nothing to any discussion, I originally felt that the best way to respond, rather than pointing out the fallacies, was to make a funny verse using your most often used logical fallacy above to the tune of Particle Man. We done here?


Let me repeat: 60/40 troll/serious. But I'll respond:

1 -
a) What you said *was* a comment to do with how you feel a CEO should behave, and you are _dead wrong_. CEOs should speak their minds and do what they feel is right, rather than optimize for profit. If you think that all a true capitalist cares about is money, again, you're wrong and you misunderstand the concept. This was my original point. I don't know how much exposure you've had to large corporation CEOs, but most do believe and behave the way you seem to think they should, and - again - that's wrong.
b) I did make an ad-hominem attack, mostly because it amused me to do so. See above.
2) Not a strawman. I don't have a citation handy, but central planning and government control lead to inefficiency (in terms of capital use, etc.), outright waste, less innovation, uncertainty, and ultimately damaged or ruined businesses (and by extension, damaged lives). I have first hand experience with this, and as I'm not interested in sharing my identity, you'll have to take my word for it. Or not.
3) Yes, this is an ad hominem, but it's also mostly true. Many, many liberals (and conservatives) follow their political 'superiors' whichever way they lead. And, yes, I trolled again.
4) It was a bit of an aggressive statement, but I stand by it: you appear to believe capitalism is what you see in America today, but it isn't.. or shouldn't be (if we're allowing what's popular to alter definitions). There's not much of a strawman here.
I don't think you're beyond hope - you could come around with some help.

/(Sorry, you called me Captain Obtuse.)
 
2013-01-18 03:27:26 PM  
nexxus:

Let's break it down:
* 'Obamacare and stripping gunrights = Fascism.' Clear there's a debate here, so it's a reasonable statement relating his point of view.
>>this is not a reasonable statement it is Hyperbole at best and complete Bullshiat at worst. If you look at the definition of facsism there is no debate. Also Obamacare was a heritage foundation idea, so are conservatives Fascists? Stripping gun rights is another illusion that has no backing in reality.

* 'All power to the state, none to the individual.' The state is taking more power and you're left with less. QED.
>>More hyperbole that does not follow the premise assuming he is folllwing from his first statement.

* 'And for his supporters out there, do you really think you're going to benefit from this system?' Legitimate question.
>>This is legetimate question but then follows with tripe.

* 'Do you really think the idiots who end up in government are going to take care of all your needs while you sit around doing nothing, waiting for your government dole?' I can't imagine anyone thinks the people who work in government aren't, by and large, idiots. Obamacare does increase 'dole'.
>>see

* 'To bad you can't ask the government slaves in North Korea or China how that's working out for them.' You can't, and it is a shame.
>>How is Obamacare like North Korea and China? By the way China and North Korea do not have the same forms of goverment or even societal norms and goverment control.

* 'A life of forced military conscription or factory work in exchange for a starving, hopeless, spartan existence doesn't sound like much of a deal to me.' This does happen, and it is too bad you can't talk to them.
>> So don;t live in NK and China. I'm sure you and him will stop buying chinese made products but this still ahs nothing to do with Obamacare and how our goverment currently opperates.

* 'Yet you idiots gleefully cheer Obama when he strips rights and freedoms.' Maybe he shouldn't have called ...
See how can you argue with this? I wonder how he feels when people get stripped of their voting rights because they can't afford to get a state ID, rules keep changing, and access gets restricted? How about the same sex marriage?
 
2013-01-18 03:27:58 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah, here's the quote:

"I regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it," Mackey told HuffPost Live on Thursday. "Of course, I was just using the standard dictionary definition."


In other words, "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs".

Deal with it.


It's great that he can look up the word, he still misapplied it.
 
2013-01-18 03:28:03 PM  

Thunderpipes: Good thing not a single Farker runs even a decent sized business.

Imagine how long it would last? 100k salary with full benefits for a paper route?


How big is the business you run?
 
2013-01-18 03:29:44 PM  

TommyymmoT: semolina


Semolina is the coarse, purified wheat middlings of durum wheat used in making pasta, breakfast cereals, puddings, and couscous

Probably not Mao Zedong.
 
2013-01-18 03:29:53 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah, here's the quote:

"I regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it," Mackey told HuffPost Live on Thursday. "Of course, I was just using the standard dictionary definition."


In other words, "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs".

Deal with it.


The old Republican tactic of talking first without taking facts and reality into account.

He should of ended it with "not intended to be a factual statement".
 
2013-01-18 03:31:52 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah, here's the quote:

"I regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it," Mackey told HuffPost Live on Thursday. "Of course, I was just using the standard dictionary definition."


In other words, "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs".

Deal with it.


It's not hard to deal with the fact that Mackey doesn't understand what fascism means. But if you think he meant "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs" rather than, "Please, please don't stop buying my overpriced crap," then you're a fool.
 
2013-01-18 03:32:06 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah, here's the quote:

"I regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it," Mackey told HuffPost Live on Thursday. "Of course, I was just using the standard dictionary definition."


In other words, "I'm sorry you can't handle your beliefs".

Deal with it.


fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Definition of FASCISM
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
- fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized
- fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized
- fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized
 
2013-01-18 03:34:30 PM  

neversubmit: Carn: nexxus: That his "cave" serves his long term interests. So you really shouldn't think it's a shame, he's being a good capitalist by your own terms.

Maybe his job/position was threatened. We all know you liberal pansies can't handle alternate viewpoints or have a rational discussion, despite your professions of openness and tolerance. We don't really know why he caved - can only speculate.

He certainly believes what he said originally.

Ad-hominem man, Ad-hominem man
Ad-hominem man meets Straw man
They don't fight
They are good friends
Ad-hominem man

Ad-hominem hominem hominem hominem hominem hominem pow right in the kisser

no point just playing


It almost plays into

Ad homi, homi, homi, not gonna work here anymore, anyway.
 
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