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2013-01-18 11:50:02 AM
Guns are so macho.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:44 AM
This is getting f*cking ridiculous
 
2013-01-18 11:56:43 AM
Forget the guns, we gotta deal with this problem of running out of french fries and burrito coverings.
 
2013-01-18 12:02:46 PM
He's a Democrat, though. So it's cool.
 
2013-01-18 12:04:50 PM
What's next?  cows with guns?  Chickens in choppers?
 
2013-01-18 12:12:55 PM
He had sleeves on. Amateur.
 
2013-01-18 12:14:48 PM
That wasn't full Camacho.  Camacho used an M249...
 
2013-01-18 12:32:56 PM
smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net
 
2013-01-18 12:34:18 PM
"... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh
 
2013-01-18 12:39:23 PM
THIS... is my BOOMSTICK!!
 
2013-01-18 12:43:51 PM
If only
 
2013-01-18 12:52:14 PM

simplicimus: "... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh


He's just being a Responsible Gun Owner
 
2013-01-18 12:58:10 PM

GAT_00: simplicimus: "... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh

He's just being a Responsible Gun Owner


Yeah, not so much.
 
2013-01-18 01:03:34 PM
That wasn't brandishing a rifle, that was "holding up" a rifle.
 
2013-01-18 01:20:26 PM
t2.gstatic.com

Gibson:   I move, we impose some serious term limits.

Homer:    I second that motion.  With a vengeance!
 
2013-01-18 02:55:18 PM
Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.
 
2013-01-18 03:03:02 PM

BronyMedic: Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.


You should probably read TFA
 
2013-01-18 03:05:16 PM
Idiocracy is becoming reality at an alarming rate.
 
2013-01-18 03:07:16 PM

dugitman: BronyMedic: Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.

You should probably read TFA


Lampshading is a difficult concept for you to gasp, isn't it?
 
2013-01-18 03:08:13 PM

SlothB77: Idiocracy is becoming reality at an alarming rate.


We need some kind of Idiocracy Clock, or some other measuring system. This individual act just moved us to IDCON3!
 
2013-01-18 03:08:18 PM
To be fair, he was concerned about the feral hogs he saw sneaking in the back door.
 
2013-01-18 03:08:21 PM
He is scared about members "across the aisle" bringing guns into the chamber. This is VA I figured Dems and Reps would both be armed in there.
 
2013-01-18 03:08:26 PM

funk_soul_bubby: burrito


What are we gonna do about the nuclear reactor in Florida? It's like broken or leaking or something.
 
2013-01-18 03:10:54 PM
www.examiner.com
 
2013-01-18 03:11:12 PM

I_Am_Weasel: What's next?   cows with guns?  Chickens in choppers?


We will fight for bovine freedom
And hold our large heads high
We will run free with the buffalo
or die....
 
2013-01-18 03:11:13 PM
What the shiat is that stock?
 
2013-01-18 03:11:43 PM
A Virginia delegate had to use an AK? I guess you can say it wasn't a good day.
 
2013-01-18 03:13:10 PM

BronyMedic: Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.


And this was a guy favoring gun control, trying to make other people as scared of weapons as he is.
 
2013-01-18 03:13:33 PM

Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?


It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon.
 
2013-01-18 03:13:38 PM
Brandishing, waving, whatever. At least it wasn't an assault... oh.

/I think he needs it for protection from the other members of the assembly who bring loaded firearms in to the chambers regularly
 
2013-01-18 03:13:39 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
approves.
 
2013-01-18 03:13:55 PM

groppet: He is scared about members "across the aisle" bringing guns into the chamber. This is VA I figured Dems and Reps would both be armed in there.


I'd wager that despite the lack of a ban, nobody has been shot on the VA House floor.

That makes Mr. Morrissey's fear irrational.
 
2013-01-18 03:14:09 PM
You be lucky if someone walked into somewhere with an AK-47. Those aren't the most accurate things in the world.
 
2013-01-18 03:14:52 PM

BronyMedic: You should probably read TFA

Lampshading is a difficult concept for you to gasp, isn't it?


Uh huh. Pardon my inability to recognize subtle genius.
 
2013-01-18 03:14:56 PM
This is the Republicanest image I have ever seen!
 
2013-01-18 03:15:25 PM
www.urantiansojourn.com
www.buzzpirates.com

South Carolina, What's up?
 
2013-01-18 03:16:11 PM

lectos: You be lucky if someone walked into somewhere with an AK-47. Those aren't the most accurate things in the world.


Best part is, with so many rounds fired.... you don't have to be accurate... especially at point blank range... right?
 
2013-01-18 03:16:27 PM
There's a dirtball guy who I occasionally have to deal with, a convicted felon, who once told me he was scheming to get VA residence through his mom (who, smartly, wanted nothing to do with this scheme) so he could buy guns there. Turns out, apparently he doesn't even need residency there...
 
2013-01-18 03:16:41 PM
ERMAGERD! WEAPONZ ASSALTS US!
 
2013-01-18 03:17:10 PM

Etchy333: This is the Republicanest image I have ever seen!


And he's a Democrat, I should learn to read sometime. Seems like a useful skill, but I hear it's for losers.
 
2013-01-18 03:17:15 PM
FTFA: "Some of my Republican colleagues came up to me today and said, 'I've heard of assault weapons, I had no idea what they're like,'" Morrissey said. "The clip I had in it was 30 rounds. Imagine a clip in three times this, imagine what you could do in a school."

Why stop there? Imagine what you could do in a baby nursery, or a kitten store!

www.impactlab.net

Just imagine!
 
2013-01-18 03:17:19 PM

Millennium: BronyMedic: Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.

And this was a guy favoring gun control, trying to make other people as scared of weapons as he is.


You are correct. This fact must be emphasized, because that motive means that his behaviour was perfectly acceptable.
 
2013-01-18 03:17:58 PM
It's strange how a banana clip fits right into your hand.
 
2013-01-18 03:18:55 PM
Is his thumb on the trigger?
 
2013-01-18 03:20:22 PM
cdn.uproxx.com
 
2013-01-18 03:20:25 PM
Mr. Morrissey?

♫♪ If I could legislate under a bus, it would be so fiiiine.... ♫♪
 
2013-01-18 03:20:54 PM

leonel: funk_soul_bubby: burrito

What are we gonna do about the nuclear reactor in Florida? It's like broken or leaking or something.


I thought it was in Georgia?
 
2013-01-18 03:21:27 PM
"... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."

So, he was really just "brandishing" a paperweight.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:33 PM

LesserEvil: FTFA: "Some of my Republican colleagues came up to me today and said, 'I've heard of assault weapons, I had no idea what they're like,'" Morrissey said. "The clip I had in it was 30 rounds. Imagine a clip in three times this, imagine what you could do in a school."

Why stop there? Imagine what you could do in a baby nursery, or a kitten store!

[www.impactlab.net image 500x330]

Just imagine!


Now imagine if it had an m203 attached and the person holding it was in a tank, carried by a C130!
 
2013-01-18 03:23:05 PM

uncleacid: It's strange how a banana clip fits right into your hand.


It is intelligently designed. By God. For Real AmericansTM.
 
2013-01-18 03:24:00 PM
The jerk has his thumb on the trigger. He should not be allowed to own a gun.
 
2013-01-18 03:24:11 PM

srelan: So, he was really just "brandishing" a paperweight.


no, it was an assault paperweight.
 
2013-01-18 03:24:40 PM

IRQ12: LesserEvil: FTFA: "Some of my Republican colleagues came up to me today and said, 'I've heard of assault weapons, I had no idea what they're like,'" Morrissey said. "The clip I had in it was 30 rounds. Imagine a clip in three times this, imagine what you could do in a school."

Why stop there? Imagine what you could do in a baby nursery, or a kitten store!

[www.impactlab.net image 500x330]

Just imagine!

Now imagine if it had an m203 attached and the person holding it was in a tank, carried by a C130!


and imagine this was all happening in Times Square on New Year's Eve! You can just imagine the mayhem.
 
2013-01-18 03:25:45 PM

leonel: funk_soul_bubby: burrito

What are we gonna do about the nuclear reactor in Florida? It's like broken or leaking or something.


Maybe we should put some toilet water on it...
 
2013-01-18 03:25:48 PM

Etchy333: Etchy333: This is the Republicanest image I have ever seen!

And he's a Democrat, I should learn to read sometime. Seems like a useful skill, but I hear it's for losers.


Clearly you need to brush up. Reading is for homosexuals.

\There's that f** talk we talked about
\\Please don't ban me
 
2013-01-18 03:26:02 PM

Flashlight: The jerk has his thumb on the trigger. He should not be allowed to own a gun.


These are the people who want to steer the discussion around "gun safety".
 
2013-01-18 03:26:07 PM
"A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law," Morrissey said on the floor, according to the Examiner, assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded.

/epic facepalm. First of all, the murders committed in the USA with an AK, or a AR, or any other type of "assault" weapon are far and below the numbers killed by handguns and knives. You're just waving that AK around because it looks scary and ZOMG we should ban it, even though the facts don't support doing that. And yes, it would have been funny if he was waving it around like a retard, and it went full auto..spraying a full magazine into the ceiling. Would have been like watching a hamas vid.
 
2013-01-18 03:26:19 PM
more importantly, will this issue FINALLY grab enough traction to distract everyone from the debt ceiling crisis and how we can manage to reduce the debt?
 
2013-01-18 03:26:30 PM

uncleacid: It's strange how a banana clip fits right into your hand.


go on...
 
2013-01-18 03:26:57 PM
Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?
 
2013-01-18 03:27:37 PM
At what point does holding become brandishing?
 
2013-01-18 03:28:32 PM

LesserEvil: FTFA: "Some of my Republican colleagues came up to me today and said, 'I've heard of assault weapons, I had no idea what they're like,'" Morrissey said. "The clip I had in it was 30 rounds. Imagine a clip in three times this, imagine what you could do in a school."

Why stop there? Imagine what you could do in a baby nursery, or a kitten store!

[www.impactlab.net image 500x330]

Just imagine!


Use it to shoot the psycho who thinks it's a good day for killing kids / babies / kittens?
 
2013-01-18 03:28:46 PM
A subcommittee voted Thursday night to kill a bill Morrissey introduced that would have tightened gun controls in the state, The Roanoke Times reported.

Now he knows how Joan of Arc felt.

/did he mention that he cried?
 
2013-01-18 03:29:14 PM
That Stock is a result of the first ban that did nothing.
That man has no idea how to brandish properly.
Thumb on the trigger?
 
2013-01-18 03:29:51 PM

traylor: Use it to shoot the psycho who thinks it's a good day for killing kids / babies / kittens?


No, these are "assault" weapons. ASSAULT!! They cannot be used for anything other than indiscriminate murder!
 
2013-01-18 03:30:31 PM
www.wa6smn.com
 
2013-01-18 03:30:39 PM
God dammet Joe..

sit down


He does keep things interesting around here though.

And yes, our lawmakers are allowed to pack in the statehouse. there's a fun story about one of them fiddling around with his hand gun when it discharged. shot a hole through the door and the wall across the way barely missing a couple of aides walking by.
 
2013-01-18 03:30:40 PM

DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?


By assuring people the gun was unloaded, he failed one of the first rules of gun ownership.
 
2013-01-18 03:30:44 PM
Looks like a Vepr, very nice. On my to-buy list right after an AR...
 
2013-01-18 03:32:46 PM

DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?


I read that as intimate.at first and was confused...

love is like a warm gun?
 
2013-01-18 03:33:23 PM
"It's ok when we do it!"
 
2013-01-18 03:33:49 PM

simplicimus: DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?

By assuring people the gun was unloaded, he failed one of the first rules of gun ownership.


Just a guess, but "treat every gun like it's loaded?"
 
2013-01-18 03:34:27 PM

Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon.


Wrong way around sparky, the lack of a true pistol grip made it NOT one under the original mid 90's ban.
 
2013-01-18 03:35:28 PM

bloatboy: leonel: funk_soul_bubby: burrito

What are we gonna do about the nuclear reactor in Florida? It's like broken or leaking or something.

I thought it was in Georgia?


Georgia is in Florida, dumbass!
 
2013-01-18 03:36:30 PM
Idiotic, especially after the Gregory flap.

But I guess he made the news.
 
2013-01-18 03:36:59 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: At what point does holding become brandishing?



When people are scared. We're an emotion-based society now.
 
2013-01-18 03:36:59 PM
He should be sharing a jail cell with David Gregory!

Amirite?
 
2013-01-18 03:37:04 PM

simplicimus: DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?

By assuring people the gun was unloaded, he failed one of the first rules of gun ownership.


Based on that picture he failed all the rules of gun ownership.
 
2013-01-18 03:37:47 PM
Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)
 
2013-01-18 03:37:51 PM
I think the NRA should come full circle on this and lobby a bill banning assault rifles.

Win/win.
 
2013-01-18 03:37:59 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: At what point does holding become brandishing?


The instant you disagree with the person holding it.
 
2013-01-18 03:38:02 PM
Ah, political grandstanding, that always works.

"...A subcommittee voted Thursday night to kill a bill Morrissey introduced..." or not.
 
2013-01-18 03:38:56 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: He should be sharing a jail cell with David Gregory!

Amirite?


You're not so good at reading, are you?
 
2013-01-18 03:39:28 PM
 
2013-01-18 03:39:31 PM

geo9270: simplicimus: DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?

By assuring people the gun was unloaded, he failed one of the first rules of gun ownership.

Based on that picture he failed all the rules of gun ownership.


Doesn't it also go without saying that anybody in the legislature is probably mentally incompetent to be carrying any sort of firearm?
 
2013-01-18 03:39:37 PM

WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)


Sounds good to me.

Question though.

How does the current law handle hand me downs?
 
2013-01-18 03:40:11 PM
Morrissey got the gun from"some people I know who happen to be gun enthusiasts"

LMAO. Yeah, I got this from some people I know...

One of the VA State Legislators happens to frequent my LGS. Guys has more AR's than the store has sold this year.

Proud we are a 12/100 on the Brady Scale. I hear Marsha likes bad boys.
 
2013-01-18 03:41:12 PM
And I didn't even have to use my AK, Today was a good day.
 
2013-01-18 03:42:14 PM

Orgasmatron138: simplicimus: DubtodaIll: Well, as long as he didn't use it, I don't have a problem with it. What's the big deal with carrying inanimate objects into places?

By assuring people the gun was unloaded, he failed one of the first rules of gun ownership.

Just a guess, but "treat every gun like it's loaded?"


Yep. People die every year from "unloaded" guns.
 
2013-01-18 03:42:21 PM

BigNumber12: Uranus Is Huge!: At what point does holding become brandishing?

When people are scared. We're an emotion-based society now.



I mean... everyone's shiat's emotional right now
 
2013-01-18 03:42:44 PM
This thread was brought to you by Carl's Jr.
 
2013-01-18 03:43:10 PM

WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)


Straw purchasers. Harsh sentencing of people who knowingly transfer a firearm to a known prohibited person. And if the weapon transferred to the known prohibited person is used in a murder, Felony Murder charge for the straw purchaser.
 
2013-01-18 03:43:19 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: He should be sharing a jail cell with David Gregory!

Amirite?


No, this was dumb but not illegal, and also speech made by elected officials on the floor of legislative bodies typically enjoys much greater protection than speech given by some guy in front of a camera so the "I was just making a point" thing might carry a little water.
 
2013-01-18 03:43:42 PM

GoldSpider: Uranus Is Huge!: He should be sharing a jail cell with David Gregory!

Amirite?

You're not so good at reading, are you?


I honestly don't understand the point of the story at all. There's a thread a little lower about a guy that took his AR to JCPenny. Both of these actions are apparently perfectly legal dumb things to do.
 
2013-01-18 03:43:48 PM
abcnews.go.com

You KNOW what she is thinking:

static.prtst.net
 
2013-01-18 03:44:05 PM

WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)


You're half right.
 
2013-01-18 03:45:46 PM
Buy American
 
2013-01-18 03:46:12 PM
Half way home and my pager still blowing up

abcnews.go.com

And I didn't even have to use my AK, Today was a good day.
FTFM
 
2013-01-18 03:46:28 PM
BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.
 
2013-01-18 03:47:24 PM
Dumbass.

*redforman.jpg*
 
2013-01-18 03:48:49 PM

meat0918: WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)

Sounds good to me.

Question though.

How does the current law handle hand me downs?


Don't know how current law handles it.

With respect to proposed legislation...maybe ownership would require the safety certificate, thus if you are found to be in possession of a weapon and you are safety certified, you can be fined and your weapon impounded until you pass the required safety course.

Maybe certain crimes can result in your certificate being revoked and/or suspended...violent offenses/diminished capacity (drunk in public/DUI, etc)

Maybe certain medical issues could result in your certificate ring revoked...certain prescriptions/institutional commitment, etc.
 
2013-01-18 03:51:09 PM

meat0918: Question though.

How does the current law handle hand me downs?


Same as private sales, no record other than when it was originally bought.

Have a couple from my dad with the original sales receipts(from Ohsmans!) in the boxes.  Have more from him that he bought off of friends/acquaintances that have passed through god knows how many hands, the oldest is from 1920's, the newest is from the 1980's.
 
2013-01-18 03:52:25 PM

WhyKnot: meat0918: WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)

Sounds good to me.

Question though.

How does the current law handle hand me downs?

Don't know how current law handles it.

With respect to proposed legislation...maybe ownership would require the safety certificate, thus if you are found to be in possession of a weapon and you are safety certified, you can be fined and your weapon impounded until you pass the required safety course.

Maybe certain crimes can result in your certificate being revoked and/or suspended...violent offenses/diminished capacity (drunk in public/DUI, etc)

Maybe certain medical issues could result in your certificate ring revoked...certain prescriptions/institutional commitment, etc.


One of the questions you are asked here in VA (can't remember if it is the Federal or State application) is if you are addicted to Alcohol or Drugs, or if you have any violent offenses. Or if you have been deemed mentally unstable.

So your "suggestions" are already in effect.
 
2013-01-18 03:52:55 PM

Kanemano: Half way home and my pager still blowing up

[abcnews.go.com image 478x269]

And I didn't even have to use my AK, Today was a good day.
FTFM


oh great...now you got me wondering if his dick goes deep, so deep, puts her ass to sleep.

thanks for nothing
 
2013-01-18 03:53:01 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: "A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law," Morrissey said on the floor, according to the Examiner, assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded.

/epic facepalm. First of all, the murders committed in the USA with an AK, or a AR, or any other type of "assault" weapon are far and below the numbers killed by handguns and knives. You're just waving that AK around because it looks scary and ZOMG we should ban it, even though the facts don't support doing that. And yes, it would have been funny if he was waving it around like a retard, and it went full auto..spraying a full magazine into the ceiling. Would have been like watching a hamas vid.


You NEVER go full auto.
 
2013-01-18 03:53:34 PM

Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.


Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.
 
2013-01-18 03:55:39 PM

jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.


Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.
 
2013-01-18 03:55:57 PM
Go Away, Baitin'.
 
2013-01-18 03:56:38 PM

illannoyin: WhyKnot: Gun control laws that I don't think people would argue with:
• background checks
• safety certificate in associate with classification of weapon you are purchasing (similar to what is required when getting a hunting license)

You're half right.


My thought wouldn't be that you have to identify your exact gun or even own the gun for that matter, essentially you would be 'certified' to own the gun if you so desire. It wouldn't act as a registry of guns (which you know they are already tracking current gun sales), it would simply act as a 'person ABC has established that he/she knows the proper and safe way to handle gun type XYZ'.
 
2013-01-18 04:01:46 PM

baka-san: Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon.

Wrong way around sparky, the lack of a true pistol grip made it NOT one under the original mid 90's ban.


How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.
 
2013-01-18 04:02:28 PM

Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon Gay.


FTFY
 
2013-01-18 04:02:58 PM
Morrissey lamented Virginia's laws allowing guns in the statehouse.
"As a delegate, I have the authority to bring guns into the chamber," Morrissey said. "Right now, there are members of the House of Delegates on the other side of the aisle that pack weapons."
He assumes the guns are loaded, he said, and he doesn't like seeing them in the assembly chamber.
"How about this," he asked, exasperated. "How about prohibiting firearms from coming into the General Assembly?"

WTF? And we're still in Afghanistan because . . .

first class moronic sissy bedwetters.
For some silly reason I thought . . . well I guess there's my first mistake right there.
Apologies for wasting your time when the issue was with me.
Thanks for your time.  I'll let myself out thanks again.
 
2013-01-18 04:04:52 PM

Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.


I think if most of Virgina had their way, Alexandria County would be made part of the District of Columbia again.
 
2013-01-18 04:07:43 PM

Rich Cream: baka-san: Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon.

Wrong way around sparky, the lack of a true pistol grip made it NOT one under the original mid 90's ban.

How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.


That's what happens when people want to legislate but dismiss as "semantics" when "gun nuts" start asking specific questions.
 
2013-01-18 04:11:02 PM
"A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law," Morrissey said [...]

So what?
 
2013-01-18 04:12:30 PM

Rich Cream: How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.


So you agree that the AWB was silly and ineffective?
 
2013-01-18 04:13:27 PM
Front Page of the Toronto Star.. Teenager shot in Toronto High rise.
Further in the article, 2 others were shot in the same building last year.

Where are the holier than thou Canadians preaching about their awesome gun laws?
 
2013-01-18 04:14:20 PM

SlothB77: Idiocracy is becoming reality at an alarming rate.


Nonsense. Have you even seen that movie?
 
2013-01-18 04:14:26 PM

GoldSpider: Flashlight: The jerk has his thumb on the trigger. He should not be allowed to own a gun.

These are the people who want to steer the discussion around "gun safety".


Well, if you're going to handle a firearm you should be safe about it.
 
2013-01-18 04:14:31 PM

Heraclitus: Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon Gay.

FTFY


Like thumb holes for bolt action long guns, but not for my AR's or AK's.
 
2013-01-18 04:14:43 PM

Shostie: He's a Democrat, though. So it's cool.


Yea, it's okay..it was only a "demonstration."
 
2013-01-18 04:16:03 PM

simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: "... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh

He's just being a Responsible Gun Owner

Yeah, not so much.


a real Responsible Gun Owner legislator wouldn't have bother to inform the police or his colleagues ahead of time. instead would've just pulled it out of his handbag, loaded with the safety off and started pointing it around the room, laughing how safe it is.
 
2013-01-18 04:17:54 PM
Brandishing a rifle by a leftist pol in the state house = just a prop
Carrying a rifle on your back in Starbucks = voter intimidation

/Must be the suit
 
2013-01-18 04:18:03 PM

Glendale: Well, if you're going to handle a firearm you should be safe about it.


Precisely.
 
2013-01-18 04:19:00 PM

Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?


That stock is proof that the assault weapons ban is more about theater than substance. That's what it is.
 
2013-01-18 04:22:30 PM

hdhale: Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.

I think if most of Virgina had their way, Alexandria County would be made part of the District of Columbia again.


Do you mean the City or Alexandria or Arlington County?

There is no Alexandria County.
 
2013-01-18 04:22:32 PM

not5am: simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: "... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh

He's just being a Responsible Gun Owner

Yeah, not so much.

a real Responsible Gun Owner legislator wouldn't have bother to inform the police or his colleagues ahead of time. instead would've just pulled it out of his handbag, loaded with the safety off and started pointing it around the room, laughing how safe it is.


0/10 - Weapons grade stupid
 
2013-01-18 04:22:44 PM
So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?
 
2013-01-18 04:26:53 PM

GoldSpider: Rich Cream: How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.

So you agree that the AWB was silly and ineffective?



Trying to get me to commit to one side or the other are ye? That would limit my trolling options.

/ineffective but not silly
 
2013-01-18 04:27:20 PM

Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?


The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)
 
2013-01-18 04:28:19 PM

Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?



Did they search him for ammo?
 
2013-01-18 04:29:01 PM

Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?


It was a deadly semi-automatic assault rifle with no legitimate civilian purpose and that is only ever used for killing a substantial quantity of humans in a relatively short duration. As such, observers of the firearm are obligated to suffer from immediate incontinence and paralysis resulting from anxiety.

Additionally, the lawmaker demonstrated improper firearm handling safety. Such behaviour inherently merits scorn.
 
2013-01-18 04:29:29 PM

not5am: simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: "... assuring other lawmakers that the gun was not loaded."
/sigh

He's just being a Responsible Gun Owner

Yeah, not so much.

a real Responsible Gun Owner legislator wouldn't have bother to inform the police or his colleagues ahead of time. instead would've just pulled it out of his handbag, loaded with the safety off and started pointing it around the room, laughing how safe it is.


..it's ok he always puts one less round in the clip so the first shot is a dry fire.
 
2013-01-18 04:30:08 PM

Rich Cream: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?


Did they search him for ammo?


Did they search everyone for ammo?
 
2013-01-18 04:30:50 PM

Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?


So, if it was a pro-gun Republican grandstanding in a legislative chamber with a AK clone, would you still feel it's no big deal?
 
2013-01-18 04:32:11 PM

Dimensio: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

It was a deadly semi-automatic assault rifle with no legitimate civilian purpose and that is only ever used for killing a substantial quantity of humans in a relatively short duration. As such, observers of the firearm are obligated to suffer from immediate incontinence and paralysis resulting from anxiety.

Additionally, the lawmaker demonstrated improper firearm handling safety. Such behaviour inherently merits scorn.


Seriously, fark taught me guns ONLY purpose is to kill. Why it no kill?
 
2013-01-18 04:32:35 PM
So if this guy, and David Gregory, took a twelve year old girl and showed her his wang it would be okay as long as it was for educational purposes on national news television and you told the cops you were gonna do it and you get the kid from "a friend".
Nice to know.
 
2013-01-18 04:33:57 PM

kombat_unit: Dimensio: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

It was a deadly semi-automatic assault rifle with no legitimate civilian purpose and that is only ever used for killing a substantial quantity of humans in a relatively short duration. As such, observers of the firearm are obligated to suffer from immediate incontinence and paralysis resulting from anxiety.

Additionally, the lawmaker demonstrated improper firearm handling safety. Such behaviour inherently merits scorn.

Seriously, fark taught me guns ONLY purpose is to kill. Why it no kill?


Apparently, and quite fortunately for other lawmakers in the building, the firearm was defective. It may suffer from the same defect that evidently affects my firearms.
 
2013-01-18 04:34:13 PM
Real AK-47s are extremely rare and valuable (as in, I could buy this AK-47 or a new compact car) in the US. Undoubtedly what he was holding was an AK-47 "pattern" rifle, which is a semi-automatic variant, and functionally no different from any other semiautomatic rifle. Which, by the way, are rarely used in crimes. It's just another example of fact-free fear mongering from a gun grabber, hell bent on enacting legislation that would make an immeasurably small difference in the amount of gun violence happening in the US.
 
2013-01-18 04:34:41 PM

Rich Cream: How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.


See, by that measure, this has a pistol grip...

thespecialistsltd.com
 
2013-01-18 04:35:42 PM

Flashlight: The jerk has his thumb on the trigger. He should not be allowed to own a gun.


Hey maybe there IS middle ground on the gun debate, a sensible compromise solution that Gun-lovers and Gun haters can all agree on:

A law stating that anytime you are caught doing something stupid with a gun, be it in public, on facebook, twitter, Instagram  etc,  That gun is immediately forfiet and your right to buy another gun is suspended for a year, with a three strikes lifetime ban
 
2013-01-18 04:37:25 PM
Awesome headline!!!
 
2013-01-18 04:37:26 PM
Everyone in Richmond knows Joe is a dumbass. He also has a notorious temper and prone to violence. He fits the perfect profile of someone that shouldn't have a concealed carry permit. I support any Republican effort to marginalize this asshole.
 
2013-01-18 04:37:38 PM

ZackDanger: "A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law," Morrissey said [...]

So what?


He would too be in violation of the law. You can't just walk down the middle of the street!
 
2013-01-18 04:37:41 PM
I've heard a story that since it's legal to carry a concealed weapon in the Texas Capitol building, and if you do you skip the metal detector lines (because what's the point?), some reporters have gotten concealed carry licenses and pistols to speed up the process. I have no idea if I remember right or if it was true when I heard it, but it's funny anyway.
 
2013-01-18 04:38:07 PM
They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.
 
2013-01-18 04:39:06 PM

illannoyin: I think he should get together with the guy from this thread and go bowling


good idea, they could take the skinheads too

/okay THAT was obscure but it's late on Friday
 
2013-01-18 04:39:11 PM
On his way home did he take a sip of the potion to hit the three-wheel motion?
 
2013-01-18 04:39:42 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: I've heard a story that since it's legal to carry a concealed weapon in the Texas Capitol building, and if you do you skip the metal detector lines (because what's the point?), some reporters have gotten concealed carry licenses and pistols to speed up the process. I have no idea if I remember right or if it was true when I heard it, but it's funny anyway.


CCW require background check and fingerprints to make sure you're not a illegal butthole.
 
2013-01-18 04:41:23 PM

willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.


Read Federalist 45 and then realize how off base your dumb post is.
 
2013-01-18 04:43:28 PM

kombat_unit: I May Be Crazy But...: I've heard a story that since it's legal to carry a concealed weapon in the Texas Capitol building, and if you do you skip the metal detector lines (because what's the point?), some reporters have gotten concealed carry licenses and pistols to speed up the process. I have no idea if I remember right or if it was true when I heard it, but it's funny anyway.

CCW require background check and fingerprints to make sure you're not a illegal butthole.


I actually feel safer around people with CCW's than others. The vast majority are safe and rational. There are however an equal percentage of "idiots" in the gun owning world as there are in any other group of people. Well, except the Democrat party. They are all idiots.
 
2013-01-18 04:43:32 PM
Joe Morrissey. That guy came by my apartment in the mid-80s when I lived in Richmond looking for a vote for something or other he was running for. He always seemed like a douche to me.

/I really got nothing else.
 
2013-01-18 04:43:39 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

So, if it was a pro-gun Republican grandstanding in a legislative chamber with a AK clone, would you still feel it's no big deal?


I wouldn't. An elected official isn't going to murder everyone in the legislature.
 
2013-01-18 04:44:21 PM

geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)


So?
 
2013-01-18 04:45:30 PM

kombat_unit: willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.

Read Federalist 45 and then realize how off base your dumb post is.


Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.
 
2013-01-18 04:45:45 PM
Wonder how many CCW senators thought about using Joe's brandishing as an opportunity to pump three into his chest in "self defense"?
 
2013-01-18 04:46:14 PM

ZackDanger: "A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law," Morrissey said [...]

So what?


But he could get a ticket for jaywalking or obstructing traffic.
 
2013-01-18 04:46:45 PM
Let's limit the size of magazines!!!

colonyofcommodus.files.wordpress.com

even Tuco has seen a way around it

desmond.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-18 04:46:55 PM
All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.
 
2013-01-18 04:48:24 PM

geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)



A gun is something to be afraid of and scare your constituents other people with, dumbass, not something to respect or understand.
 
2013-01-18 04:48:43 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Rich Cream: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?


Did they search him for ammo?

Did they search everyone for ammo?


I would have brought it in the day before.


baka-san: Rich Cream: How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.

See, by that measure, this has a pistol grip...

[thespecialistsltd.com image 850x249]



Well, my measure would involve the word "perpendicular".
 
2013-01-18 04:48:58 PM

willfullyobscure: kombat_unit: willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.

Read Federalist 45 and then realize how off base your dumb post is.

Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.


Wow. Just wow. If you think that IFV's and Drone strikes are all that is required to win a war, read up on a little war called Vietnam. Might shock you how irregular forces fighting a guerrilla war can overcome technology and regular forces.
 
2013-01-18 04:49:19 PM

ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?


So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.
 
2013-01-18 04:49:31 PM

willfullyobscure: kombat_unit: willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.

Read Federalist 45 and then realize how off base your dumb post is.

Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.


0/10 - ignorant troll, yawn
 
2013-01-18 04:50:24 PM

Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.


I don't see a flash-suppressor or a bayonet lug, so maybe.
 
2013-01-18 04:52:07 PM

willfullyobscure: Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.


I see that a major strategy here is "have the same conversation over and over again until the side with more of a life walks away from their computer."
 
2013-01-18 04:53:21 PM

willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.


Declaring a position to be "common sense" is inherently an appeal to the "poisoning the well" fallacy.
 
2013-01-18 04:53:56 PM

BigNumber12: willfullyobscure: Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.

I see that a major strategy here is "have the same conversation over and over again until the side with more of a life walks away from their computer."


...and goes to the rifle range. ;-)
 
2013-01-18 04:54:42 PM

Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.


As a gun owner, can I just say shut the fark up you moronic wackjob.
 
2013-01-18 04:57:28 PM
I need some advice. Fark has taught me that guns are all about sexing my tiny wang. I've tried to rub various firearms but failed to get excited (My Benelli M4's handle came closet but still no love). I then watched mad gun porn, similar result. Why is this not working?
 
2013-01-18 04:59:40 PM
Obviously, the problem isn't an AK or a AR. It's crazy ass stupid psychotic people who use them to kill. And statistically, they aren't used but in a very small percentage of shootings. Handguns are. And knives. But lets try to ban the "SCARY" looking ones, even though they aren't the problem. Oh yes, and lets make it harder for law abiding people to get them, even though they aren't the ones going bugshiat and killing tons of folks. So let's see of we got the steps covered.

1. Attack all gun users / collectors as rabid frothing children snipers.
2. Put forth a bill to make it more difficult to get a certain kind of firearm, even though that firearm isn't the problem, nor are the people who legally purchase it.
3. Ignore the statistical evidence that shows handguns cause the highest percent of murders, and just go after the guns that "look scary".
4. Wave an AK in the house to show your derp and ignorance
5. profit?

Might as well blame rape victims for the way they dress, and make women wear bags from now on, or take cars away from people because far more people are killed each year from drunk drivers than are killed by guns. But that's ok, just ignore the facts and go after the wrong gun and the wrong people. Please continue with your derpfest.
 
2013-01-18 05:00:02 PM

give me doughnuts [TotalFark]
2013-01-18 01:03:34 PM

That wasn't brandishing a rifle, that was "holding up" a rifle.

Guess how we know you're an obama voter.

bran·dish (brndsh)
To display ostentatiously.

words mean things.
 
2013-01-18 05:01:00 PM

BronyMedic: dugitman: BronyMedic: Gun Thread? I think some margaritas are in order! Play the gun thread drinking game!

On another note, I guess they didn't come unarmed this time. Glad to see events are progressing exactly as people predicted in FARK threads with responsible gun ownership. And by responsible, I mean using them to intimidate and silence people who disagree with you.

Odd sort of patriot, that is.

You should probably read TFA

Lampshading is a difficult concept for you to gasp, isn't it?


Except what you wrote read in no way, shape or form like lampshading. So thats nice. Ass.
 
2013-01-18 05:01:16 PM
This thread has electrolytes.
 
2013-01-18 05:01:46 PM

willfullyobscure: kombat_unit: willfullyobscure: They are dangerous toys, noting more, nothing less. If hicks and lunatics can't play safely with these toys, they will lose them, and that's OK.

Ersatz military gear has no rational place in our civil society. We don't let idiots dress up like cops or firefighters or EMTs, either; you get arrested for that shiat. It should be the same if you want to dress up like a soldier. We can make an exception for re-enactors, since at least they seem to know that they're playing dress-up.

Otherwise, yes, you should lose your military toys at the drop of a hat and they should be regulated to whatever necessary level to keep them away from thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.

It's only common sense.

Read Federalist 45 and then realize how off base your dumb post is.

Yeah OK. cuz you and your fake assault rifle in 5.56 are gonna be a big help against armored IFVs and drone strikes in the event the Fed goes all "crush internal dissent". yeeeep.


Fer the n-th time mere escalation to that level is desirable in itself. If society grows so irrecoverably divided that coexistence becomes unbearable and we all start other meansing the shiat out of each other someone is going to win. Do you trust the cops or the military more to play king maker?
 
2013-01-18 05:03:02 PM
Hey, that's the same place that Patrick Henry used to speak!

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace²but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Gee, I wonder which of those two speeches crazy white guys are most aligned with. The one about guns being too easily acquired and carried or the one about there's a war on and it's caused Northerners sweeping in.

Huh. I couldn't begin to guess.
 
2013-01-18 05:06:50 PM

simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.


And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.
 
2013-01-18 05:08:59 PM

kombat_unit: I need some advice. Fark has taught me that guns are all about sexing my tiny wang. I've tried to rub various firearms but failed to get excited (My Benelli M4's handle came closet but still no love). I then watched mad gun porn, similar result. Why is this not working?


/Its only working for the people that say it works on you. They are trying to feel better about their closet gun pron fantasies. See what i did there? turned it right around.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:02 PM

ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.


It would certainly be nice if they were listened to instead of having it brushed off by people with a "The internet is a series of tubes" level of knowledge.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:06 PM

Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.


You need to be making youtube videos and linking them here so mainstream America gets your message loud and clear.

Please?
 
2013-01-18 05:09:15 PM

ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.


Nope, I'm fine with all of the above. Expertise has value.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:58 PM

Dimensio: Declaring a position to be "common sense" is inherently an appeal to the "poisoning the well" fallacy.


Isn't there something along the lines of an "appeal to consensus" or "false consensus?"

\Not English major
\\Engineering major
\\\Didn't have to use words
 
2013-01-18 05:11:32 PM
Okay, I get it, you don't like guns
ignore the fact that handguns are the lion's share of the weapons used in murders
and that these people surround themselves with men who have guns..
yet want to take ours
I don't really get that a thumbhole makes a rifle into a dangerous assault weapon that kills on command
but okay

What really bugs me, is that if they had all this information
on how dangerous and horrible these specific guns are
why didn't they say something before?
Where was the vitriol?
Where was the outraged politician bringing a gun to shake at his fellow rich people?
Thousands die every year and now it's a problem...
 
2013-01-18 05:12:33 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: kombat_unit: I need some advice. Fark has taught me that guns are all about sexing my tiny wang. I've tried to rub various firearms but failed to get excited (My Benelli M4's handle came closet but still no love). I then watched mad gun porn, similar result. Why is this not working?

/Its only working for the people that say it works on you. They are trying to feel better about their closet gun pron fantasies. See what i did there? turned it right around.


Dang. That is too bad because I'm ready to save a ton of cash by foregoing dating.
 
2013-01-18 05:13:46 PM

Theburner: Front Page of the Toronto Star.. Teenager shot in Toronto High rise.
Further in the article, 2 others were shot in the same building last year.

Where are the holier than thou Canadians preaching about their awesome gun laws?


We haven't gone anywhere, though at this point I'm starting to wonder why.

And because this happened, I guess all Canucks have to buy a gun and Arnold Schwarzenegger gets to be Prime Minister.

Cheers.
 
2013-01-18 05:14:29 PM

ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.


Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.

People who jabber about tubes shouldn't propose internet regulation.
Bretharians shouldn't propose medical legislation.

/no economics example. That shiat is ALL voodoo anyway.
 
2013-01-18 05:17:34 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.

Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.


Again, so what? Are you suggesting that you should need to know anything about gun safety to own and brandish a gun? That's some commie pinko socio liberal nazi talk right there.
 
2013-01-18 05:17:53 PM
The day the people are fully disarmed is when the new order truly begins.
 
2013-01-18 05:21:42 PM

ProfessorOhki: Holocaust Agnostic: ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.

Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.

Again, so what? Are you suggesting that you should need to know anything about gun safety to own and brandish a gun? That's some commie pinko socio liberal nazi talk right there.


As a commie pinko socio etc etc I'm fine with that.
 
2013-01-18 05:25:00 PM
Can we please just begin the impeachment trials.
 
2013-01-18 05:25:55 PM

Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.


I came.
 
2013-01-18 05:29:36 PM

swangoatman: So if this guy, and David Gregory, took a twelve year old girl and showed her his wang it would be okay as long as it was for educational purposes on national news television and you told the cops you were gonna do it and you get the kid from "a friend".
Nice to know.


GDISM, I keep telling you it is not illegal when "we" do it.
/only applies to "they"
 
2013-01-18 05:30:03 PM
Ever notice how people think that if you keep some stuff in some areas of the society and other stuff in other areas of the society - and we all agree that this hypocrisy is normal and good - but if you take some stuff in that society and put it where we think it shouldn't be, people lose their rags?
 
2013-01-18 05:36:28 PM

ProfessorOhki: Holocaust Agnostic: ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.

Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.

Again, so what? Are you suggesting that you should need to know anything about gun safety to own and brandish a gun? That's some commie pinko socio liberal nazi talk right there.


Goalpost moving as well?
 
2013-01-18 05:43:16 PM

Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.


The doomsayer scenario?

Step 1) Classify as enemy combatants
Step 2)
ricks.foreignpolicy.com
 
2013-01-18 05:44:52 PM

ProfessorOhki: Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.

The doomsayer scenario?

Step 1) Classify as enemy combatants
Step 2)
[ricks.foreignpolicy.com image 625x348]


Nice, but too pricey for my budget.
 
2013-01-18 05:51:14 PM

ProfessorOhki: Clemkadidlefark: All you anti-gun whackos, how're you non-gun owners going to disarm us?

Nighttime Shoot

... and that's just the smallest sliver of the tiniest percent of the overwhelming majority of Americans who will resist anyone trying to abridge their 2nd Amendment Rights. Rights which We The People reserved unto ourselves. Rights which DO NOT come from the federal government. These Rights are ours, we declared them and we defend them AGAINST government alienation.

The doomsayer scenario?

Step 1) Classify as enemy combatants
Step 2)
[ricks.foreignpolicy.com image 625x348]


Now THAT looks like a penis.
 
2013-01-18 05:55:40 PM

spacelord321: ProfessorOhki: Holocaust Agnostic: ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.

Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.

Again, so what? Are you suggesting that you should need to know anything about gun safety to own and brandish a gun? That's some commie pinko socio liberal nazi talk right there.

Goalpost moving as well?


That's cute; you think I actually set goalposts. Nah, the point is the more you criticize what he did with a gun, the stronger the case you make for the control of guns. If you're saying it's an absolute right, then him being a complete moron is fine because he didn't actually endanger or threaten anyone - ergo, he was just carrying openly, right? If you're saying that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it, then you're making an argument for gun control based on something.

There's basically three stances you can have:
1) Trust all John Q. Publics with guns, as is their inalienable right; that means that you've got to accept that people will do stupid things with them and that there's nothing you can do about it; you can try to educate, but not force
2) Ban all guns.
3) The middle ground in which you admit that you're pro-gun control and then address the real debate of where those lines should be drawn.

You can't hold 1 and 3 at the same time. If you're against all gun control, you've got to come to terms with the fact that some people will totally disregard safe handling.
 
2013-01-18 05:56:19 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but the goal is to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of untrained asshats, eh?
Case in point!

This moran is the poster child for who should not have access to weapons.
 
2013-01-18 05:57:44 PM
But FWIW, I agree that those lines should be drawn by someone who knows what a barrel shroud is.
 
2013-01-18 05:58:09 PM
I don't trust that ass to know if a weapon is loaded or not.
Now there is a scenario,,,
 
2013-01-18 06:03:14 PM

ProfessorOhki: But FWIW, I agree that those lines should be drawn by someone who knows what a barrel shroud is.


Personally, as a liberal gun owning Democrat, I think gun training should be required before gun purchase. This clown does no good for either side.
 
2013-01-18 06:04:55 PM

snocone: This moran is the poster child for who should not have access to weapons.


And therefore, the perfect example for the downside of the fact that they do.
 
2013-01-18 06:10:32 PM
Anyone else happen to notice that he's not holding an AK 47? That's a MAK 90, which was still quite legal for sale before the original "assault rifle" ban was lifted.
 
2013-01-18 06:20:52 PM
So...the lesson here is Politicians shouldn't be allowed to have weapons. Got it.
 
2013-01-18 06:22:19 PM

Farkage: So...the lesson here is Politicians shouldn't be allowed to have weapons. Got it.


Not if they don't know basic gun safety.
 
2013-01-18 06:25:00 PM

ThunderChicken: Anyone else happen to notice that he's not holding an AK 47? That's a MAK 90, which was still quite legal for sale before the original "assault rifle" ban was lifted.


Yes, thus my "semantics" comment. A cosmetic ban is worthless.

Now that I think of it, his "gun friends" who loaned him that weapon probably chose it for just that reason.

/used to own one exactly like the one in TFA
//preferred shooting it to one with a 'traditional' stock
///still shot like shiat. Traded it for an m1911
 
2013-01-18 06:34:24 PM

Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.


The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I was 'hoping' that that the gun thing was a settled issue, and we could look at some of the actual problems our country faces. Unfortunately it seems that the Democrats are now just assuming that the swing voters are permanent.

/NOVA registered republican. I don't think a single republican got my vote this time around, but next election I'm not sure I can support the same guys.
 
2013-01-18 06:37:01 PM
Ummm... Isn't he prohibited from possessing a firearm due to his assault?
 
2013-01-18 06:38:18 PM

simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: But FWIW, I agree that those lines should be drawn by someone who knows what a barrel shroud is.

Personally, as a liberal gun owning Democrat, I think gun training should be required before gun purchase. This clown does no good for either side.


I'd support a tax credit for anyone who buys a real gun safe and takes a proper storage, precaution, and maintenance course.

The problem with a lot of proposed training is that it's too concerned with teaching how to shoot well. I don't really care if you are a good shot. I care that you know WHEN to shoot, how to maintain your firearm, how to handle it safely, etc. The amount of firearm injuries due to poor aim probably number in the single digits.

Firearm safety courses shouldn't even need you to fire a gun.
 
2013-01-18 06:40:29 PM

kim jong-un: Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.

The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I was 'hoping' that that the gun thing was a settled issue, and we could look at some of the actual problems our country faces. Unfortunately it seems that the Democrats are now just assuming that the swing voters are permanent.

/NOVA registered republican. I don't think a single republican got my vote this time around, but next election I'm not sure I can support the same guys.


Maybe too optimistic, but I'd like to think it could have actually gone down that way if it hadn't been for Aurora and Sandy Hook. It was background noise until those two sorry excuses thrust it back into the spotlight. Not that all the "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE," crowd on either side is helping either. You can win voters with "protect our guns!" you can win voters with "protect our children," but it's really really hard to win their hearts with, "yeah, that was a really depressing story.... so anyway, let's talk about wiretapping..."
 
2013-01-18 06:51:06 PM

ProfessorOhki: spacelord321: ProfessorOhki: Holocaust Agnostic: ProfessorOhki: simplicimus: ProfessorOhki: geo9270: Xythero: So what? It was an unloaded gun that was inspected by police before enterring the chamber. What's the big deal?

The 4 Basic Rules of Gun Safety:

•Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

•Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

•Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

•Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


How many did this moran violate? (Hint ALL OF THEM)

So?

So, people who have no idea how to handle a gun should not be proposing legislation on guns. I'm supposed to let idiots describe what an "assault weapon" is? All guns are assault weapons, as are my bow, crossbow and swords. Probably my cutlery.

And non-economists shouldn't make propose economic legislation, non-engineers shouldn't propose internet legislation, and non-doctors shouldn't propose medical legislation, right? If that's your argument, I'm all for it. If you think it only applies to this one topic... derp.

Cool strawman brown, but knowing not to wave a gun around a crowded room with your finger isn't gunsmith level expertise.

Again, so what? Are you suggesting that you should need to know anything about gun safety to own and brandish a gun? That's some commie pinko socio liberal nazi talk right there.

Goalpost moving as well?

That's cute; you think I actually set goalposts. Nah, the point is the more you criticize what he did with a gun, the stronger the case you make for the control of guns. If you're saying it's an absolute right, then him being a complete moron is fine because he didn't actually endanger or threaten anyone - ergo, he was just carrying openly, right? If you're saying that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it, then you're making an argument for gun control based on something.

There's basically three stances you can have:
1) Trust all John Q. Publics with guns, as is their inalienable right ...


Your initial statement had to do with legislation. You switched it to ownership and carried on as if it is the same discussion. It is not.

Also, no matter where you draw the line, someone will abuse it. I am #1.
 
2013-01-18 06:53:45 PM
But he's got a solution!
 
2013-01-18 06:56:46 PM

kim jong-un: Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.

The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I was 'hoping' that that the gun thing was a settled issue, and we could look at some of the actual problems our country faces. Unfortunately it seems that the Democrats are now just assuming that the swing voters are permanent.

/NOVA registered republican. I don't think a single republican got my vote this time around, but next election I'm not sure I can support the same guys.


Pick your poison.

Very good point.
 
2013-01-18 07:06:50 PM

spacelord321: Goalpost moving as well?

That's cute; you think I actually set goalposts. Nah, the point is the more you criticize what he did with a gun, the stronger the case you make for the control of guns. If you're saying it's an absolute right, then him being a complete moron is fine because he didn't actually endanger or threaten anyone - ergo, he was just carrying openly, right? If you're saying that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it, then you're making an argument for gun control based on something.

There's basically three stances you can have:
1) Trust all John Q. Publics with guns, as is their inalienable right ...

Your initial statement had to do with legislation. You switched it to ownership and carried on as if it is the same discussion. It is not.

Also, no matter where you draw the line, someone will abuse it. I am #1.


Actually my initial statement was, "so?" Regardless of that, I only went with ownership/use when someone else moved to the amount of expertise needed to know not wave a gun around. Seems like a reasonable chain of discussion. "Goalpost moving" is where I go, "X never happens" you show it does, and then I go, "but X+Y never happens!" Since you seem to clearly agree that ownership and legislation are completely unrelated, there was no goalpost moving, only two topics that you think are disjoint...

Anyway, I hate to trot out such a tired argument, but as #1, would you be cool with a civilian with a bunch of, oh let's say, FGM-148 Javelins? You know, for collecting? If you are, I can't complain about you argument, only disagree with it.
 
2013-01-18 07:07:43 PM

Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.


As I said in an earlier post, that's a MAK90. It's actually classified as a sports rifle.
 
2013-01-18 07:10:11 PM

kim jong-un: The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...


I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.
 
2013-01-18 07:20:55 PM
penis
 
2013-01-18 07:23:08 PM

GRCooper: ThunderChicken: Anyone else happen to notice that he's not holding an AK 47? That's a MAK 90, which was still quite legal for sale before the original "assault rifle" ban was lifted.

Yes, thus my "semantics" comment. A cosmetic ban is worthless.

Now that I think of it, his "gun friends" who loaned him that weapon probably chose it for just that reason.

/used to own one exactly like the one in TFA
//preferred shooting it to one with a 'traditional' stock
///still shot like shiat. Traded it for an m1911


Too true. The chrome lined barrels help a little, but I don't think we'll be seeing anyone win any marksman competitions with one.
 
2013-01-18 07:27:02 PM
Just watched a cool movie where only the police and military have guns....some of you libs might even be able to fap to it enjoy
 
2013-01-18 07:42:59 PM
FTFA: "A lot of people don't know that in many locations in the commonwealth, you can take this gun, you can walk in the middle of Main Street loaded and not be in violation of the law,"

If only there were a politician that would bring this to the attention of the under informed public. Maybe in a public place, such as the floor of the state House of Delegates, so as to get more media coverage, to reach as many Virginians as possible.

/Joe Morrissey might have just received an A+ rating from the NRA.
 
2013-01-18 07:58:25 PM

Rich Cream: baka-san: Chagrin: Cheese eating surrender monkey: What the shiat is that stock?

It has a thumbhole. That makes it an assault weapon.

Wrong way around sparky, the lack of a true pistol grip made it NOT one under the original mid 90's ban.

How is that not a pistol grip? Because it connects to the stock at the bottom to make a loop? That's hi-larious. I can still hold it (comfortably) with one hand.


And was perfectly legal in the 94 AWB. That is why us gun owners laugh a people that want to re-establish that ban. It did nothing. Not having a pistol grip doesn't effectively change the performance or effectiveness of a round. Nor does limiting magazine capacity to 7-10 rounds. It takes all of a half second to change a magazine and chamber a round.
 
2013-01-18 08:18:52 PM

ProfessorOhki: spacelord321: Goalpost moving as well?

That's cute; you think I actually set goalposts. Nah, the point is the more you criticize what he did with a gun, the stronger the case you make for the control of guns. If you're saying it's an absolute right, then him being a complete moron is fine because he didn't actually endanger or threaten anyone - ergo, he was just carrying openly, right? If you're saying that he shouldn't have been allowed to do it, then you're making an argument for gun control based on something.

There's basically three stances you can have:
1) Trust all John Q. Publics with guns, as is their inalienable right ...

Your initial statement had to do with legislation. You switched it to ownership and carried on as if it is the same discussion. It is not.

Also, no matter where you draw the line, someone will abuse it. I am #1.

Actually my initial statement was, "so?" Regardless of that, I only went with ownership/use when someone else moved to the amount of expertise needed to know not wave a gun around. Seems like a reasonable chain of discussion. "Goalpost moving" is where I go, "X never happens" you show it does, and then I go, "but X+Y never happens!" Since you seem to clearly agree that ownership and legislation are completely unrelated, there was no goalpost moving, only two topics that you think are disjoint...

Anyway, I hate to trot out such a tired argument, but as #1, would you be cool with a civilian with a bunch of, oh let's say, FGM-148 Javelins? You know, for collecting? If you are, I can't complain about you argument, only disagree with it.


Ok... here is the thing. You can legally own "banned" arms such as machine guns, grenades, explosives, mortars, rpgs, etc... you just have to have the proper Federal Licensing and pay a $250 fee for a tax stamp on each piece of equipment that is covered by that law. Each hand grenade would be the price for the grenade + $250 + what ever it cost for the paperwork to go through. If I had an extra $250 million laying around I could buy an F-22 if I wanted to.
 
2013-01-18 08:33:27 PM

kim jong-un: Theburner: jaybeezey: Theburner: BTW, that looks like an AK sold DURING the Clinton ban, as it has a thumb hole stock. Can anyone confirm? That would make this really funny.

Well, there is no flash hider or muzzle break, so it is possible.

It seems like everyone's shiat is getting really emotional in there right now.

Funny, the Dem's are introducing bills in the VA Senate that mimic what Obama and Feinstein are wishing for. They are being voted down. VA might have gone blue in the Federal Election, but folks around here really like their guns.

The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I was 'hoping' that that the gun thing was a settled issue, and we could look at some of the actual problems our country faces. Unfortunately it seems that the Democrats are now just assuming that the swing voters are permanent.

/NOVA registered republican. I don't think a single republican got my vote this time around, but next election I'm not sure I can support the same guys.


You and me both.
 
2013-01-18 08:46:43 PM

Stone Meadow: kim jong-un: The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.


You sound concerned.

It's not an over-reach despite the hysterics of the NRA and Rand Paul and the rest of the GOP and...

I've seen no indication that the GOP will develop the balls necessary to stop kowtowing to their lunatic fringe in their march to irrelevance.
 
2013-01-18 08:48:41 PM

JSam21: Ok... here is the thing. You can legally own "banned" arms such as machine guns, grenades, explosives, mortars, rpgs, etc... you just have to have the proper Federal Licensing and pay a $250 fee for a tax stamp on each piece of equipment that is covered by that law. Each hand grenade would be the price for the grenade + $250 + what ever it cost for the paperwork to go through. If I had an extra $250 million laying around I could buy an F-22 if I wanted to.


Perhaps, but I'm guessing that's not exactly a shall-issue license? I'm also willing to wager that you'd be denied the F-22 on account of other reasons (classified hardware or whatever). Besides, in the context of believing it's an a right that can't be infringed on like spacelord321, you don't get to demand licensing because that's a form of arms control; you step over that line and you've agreed that there should be 'reasonable' restrictions. The rest is defining what's reasonable.
 
2013-01-18 08:51:13 PM
Because there will be grandfathering, this whole debate is about whether the barn door should be closed after the horses have left.
 
2013-01-18 08:51:36 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Stone Meadow: I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.

You sound concerned.

It's not an over-reach despite the hysterics of the NRA and Rand Paul and the rest of the GOP and...

I've seen no indication that the GOP will develop the balls necessary to stop kowtowing to their lunatic fringe in their march to irrelevance.


I am concerned. (Yes, I know the meme.) That aside, you don't remember the shellacking House Dems took after first Clinton and then Obama passed or attempted to pass major legislation that inflamed the GOP?
 
2013-01-18 09:13:12 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Stone Meadow: kim jong-un: The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.

You sound concerned.

It's not an over-reach despite the hysterics of the NRA and Rand Paul and the rest of the GOP and...

I've seen no indication that the GOP will develop the balls necessary to stop kowtowing to their lunatic fringe in their march to irrelevance.


Its something to be concerned about. Here we were watching the Republicans self immolate and hoping for serious realignment and instead the farkers are gonna heroic resolve themselves back onto their feet with D5 HP cause the national discourse blundered its way into the only issue on which the GoP can ever hope to put a win up on the board with.

I'm not conspiracy minded but the timing here was uncannily terrible.
 
2013-01-18 09:17:05 PM

JSam21: Ok... here is the thing. You can legally own "banned" arms such as machine guns, grenades, explosives, mortars, rpgs, etc... you just have to have the proper Federal Licensing and pay a $250 fee for a tax stamp on each piece of equipment that is covered by that law.


There are severe caviats to that. For example, unless you are a Class III FFL dealer selling to law enforcement or authorized PMC groups that have the permission from the DOJ and State Department to utilize them, you cannot own any fully automatic weapon made after 1984, even with a tax stamp.

JSam21: If I had an extra $250 million laying around I could buy an F-22 if I wanted to.


No, you could not. The FAA strictly prohibits any civilian aircraft from carrying offensive weapons of ANY kind, and Lockheed/Martin would not sell you a piece of US Military Technology which even the bolt holding the left seatbelt into the ejector seat is considered Secret, NOFOR, Compartmentalized and above.
 
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2013-01-18 09:18:09 PM
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© God Bless Texas
 
2013-01-18 09:28:54 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: I've heard a story that since it's legal to carry a concealed weapon in the Texas Capitol building, and if you do you skip the metal detector lines (because what's the point?), some reporters have gotten concealed carry licenses and pistols to speed up the process. I have no idea if I remember right or if it was true when I heard it, but it's funny anyway.


The security at the Virginia General Assembly makes you go through a metal detector and won't let you take a knife in, but if you have a concealed weapon permit you can take your firearm. The legislator spoke truly when he said that other legislators are armed on the floor of the legislature. One of them accidentally discharged his firearm through his office door; luckily, no one was hurt.

/wtf
//WWTJD?
what would Thomas Jefferson do?
 
2013-01-18 09:48:57 PM
Don't you dare infringe on his sacred 2nd amendment rights.
 
2013-01-18 10:05:39 PM
"How about this," he asked, exasperated. "How about prohibiting assholes from coming into the General Assembly?"

They should come in their mistresses like most politicians.
 
2013-01-18 10:07:09 PM

wambu: "How about this," he asked, exasperated. "How about prohibiting assholes from coming into the General Assembly?"

They should come in their mistresses like most politicians.


"The General Assembly" actually makes for a fantastic euphemism.
 
2013-01-18 11:06:54 PM

ProfessorOhki: JSam21: Ok... here is the thing. You can legally own "banned" arms such as machine guns, grenades, explosives, mortars, rpgs, etc... you just have to have the proper Federal Licensing and pay a $250 fee for a tax stamp on each piece of equipment that is covered by that law. Each hand grenade would be the price for the grenade + $250 + what ever it cost for the paperwork to go through. If I had an extra $250 million laying around I could buy an F-22 if I wanted to.

Perhaps, but I'm guessing that's not exactly a shall-issue license? I'm also willing to wager that you'd be denied the F-22 on account of other reasons (classified hardware or whatever). Besides, in the context of believing it's an a right that can't be infringed on like spacelord321, you don't get to demand licensing because that's a form of arms control; you step over that line and you've agreed that there should be 'reasonable' restrictions. The rest is defining what's reasonable.


I have agreed that reasonable restrictions should be implemented. I'm a proponent of background checks, criminal and mental health (the second part is going to be a problem with current HIPPA laws), mandatory training prior to taking posession of your gun. The training would consist of firearms safety, cleaning/maintenance, law when it comes to use of force, and lastly actually firing the gun. Only after completion of the class would you take posession of the firearm. If you don't pass the class you can either reschedule the class or get a refund for the firearm from your point of purchase, minus the cost of the class.

I would also have CCW classes involve shoot/don't shoot situations using FATS machines along with hand to hand defensive tactics and weapon rentention. It would put you in a stress situation and you can talk your way out of situations and give people techniques that can end or control situations with less force being used. I feel anyone that carries should either also have a collapsible baton or pepper spray as an alternative option.
 
2013-01-18 11:19:49 PM

kombat_unit: I need some advice. Fark has taught me that guns are all about sexing my tiny wang. I've tried to rub various firearms but failed to get excited (My Benelli M4's handle came closet but still no love). I then watched mad gun porn, similar result. Why is this not working?


Tell me sumthin' dearie.

Do ya think yer wallet is made outta 4skin?

There's yer problem.

Yer rubbin' the wrong wang, thang.
 
2013-01-18 11:28:55 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Stone Meadow: kim jong-un: The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.

You sound concerned.

It's not an over-reach despite the hysterics of the NRA and Rand Paul and the rest of the GOP and...

I've seen no indication that the GOP will develop the balls necessary to stop kowtowing to their lunatic fringe in their march to irrelevance.

Its something to be concerned about. Here we were watching the Republicans self immolate and hoping for serious realignment and instead the farkers are gonna heroic resolve themselves back onto their feet with D5 HP cause the national discourse blundered its way into the only issue on which the GoP can ever hope to put a win up on the board with.

I'm not conspiracy minded but the timing here was uncannily terrible.


About as far away from a mid-term election as you can get? Yeah, great timing for a GOP conspiracy.
 
2013-01-19 08:44:55 AM

puppetmaster745: Holocaust Agnostic: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Stone Meadow: kim jong-un: The Democrats are making some big mistakes right now in pushing so hard against guns. A lot of registered Republicans voted for them this time around (myself included) because we felt that the Republican candidates were failing on issues regarding things like FISA, etc...

I've been making this same point over and over again and getting laughed at by my fellow Democrats. I am genuinely afraid that this could be the DNC over-reach the GOP has been praying for to bring the faithful back to the flock.

You sound concerned.

It's not an over-reach despite the hysterics of the NRA and Rand Paul and the rest of the GOP and...

I've seen no indication that the GOP will develop the balls necessary to stop kowtowing to their lunatic fringe in their march to irrelevance.

Its something to be concerned about. Here we were watching the Republicans self immolate and hoping for serious realignment and instead the farkers are gonna heroic resolve themselves back onto their feet with D5 HP cause the national discourse blundered its way into the only issue on which the GoP can ever hope to put a win up on the board with.

I'm not conspiracy minded but the timing here was uncannily terrible.

About as far away from a mid-term election as you can get? Yeah, great timing for a GOP conspiracy.


"During the election, the Democrats swore they were not going to take your guns, but the very first thing Obama did in his lame duck presidency, within 60 days of the election, blah blah blah"

There's your spin

/I don't believe the above
//I don't believe any politician
///the phrase "the American people want" is D.C. speak for "I'm about to blow smoke up your ass"
 
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