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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Smoothie shop owner who charges more for liberals fires two employees for supporting Obama. Smooth move   ( sltrib.com) divider line
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2013-01-18 11:45:19 AM  
19 votes:
From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.
2013-01-18 11:42:36 AM  
17 votes:
Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.
2013-01-18 11:47:42 AM  
16 votes:

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'
2013-01-18 11:55:49 AM  
12 votes:
I worked for a guy like this. After the 2008 election he fired another one of the chefs in the company simply for having an Obama bumper sticker, and had made threats prior to about doing such. In his North Carolina drawl he said "I'll tell you guys, if that farkin' liberal idiot gets put in the house I'm going to fire each and every one of you assholes with an Obama sticker on their car". That's a WORD FOR WORD quote. The same guy used to come into our restaurant (on the once every 6 weeks he stopped in) and would EXPLODE if anything besides Fox News was on the televisions. CNN, C-Span, BBC... didn't matter. Fox news was the only news station he allowed in his restaurants. Anything else was "liberal bias bullshiat". He would constantly write bad payroll checks and get pissed at the management (myself and another guy) for GIVING OUT CHECKS ON PAY DAY BEFORE THE BANKS CLOSED, employed an accountant that was simply lazy for years and incurred roughly $600/wk in overdrafts, let alone reimbursing employees for overdrafts on shiat checks he had written. He even was known for getting in screaming matches with guests at the white-tablecloth restaurant in Okemos about politics.

Needless to say, I left his employ for somebody else. I worked at the new place for 7 months and got fired after I fixed their problems they hired me in to fix. Basically after accomplishing that mission, I was deemed "overpaid".

Now I legally grow medicinal marijuana to the tune of what should be 6 figures this year, and I don't have to deal with corrupt assholes. I'm all for raising taxes on people like that because they didn't EARN anything on their own anyway.. and I'd love to pay taxes on MY income as well, and fulfill my financial duty to the country once the federal government pulls its head from it's ass.

Anyways, people like that are how STRONG liberals are created. Kind of like the "Catholic Schoolgirl turning into raging slut effect": oppress something for long enough, and the backlash becomes more powerful than you could ever imagine.

/COOL STORY BRO
2013-01-18 11:43:44 AM  
11 votes:
Subby headline fail. Smoothie shop owner and the firing owner are two completely different people/businesses.
2013-01-18 11:52:56 AM  
8 votes:
Its his chance to make a statement, the medias attention is fixed on him and he comes up with "Obongo"?

This is why you can't have nice things republicans. well, this and you're douchebags.
2013-01-18 11:47:58 AM  
8 votes:
They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.
2013-01-18 11:44:37 AM  
7 votes:

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.
2013-01-18 12:04:45 PM  
6 votes:
If you're carrying two employees who aren't contributing to your bottom line and can be let go without being replaced, you're just a bad business owner.

If, conversely, you would fire two employees who are adding value to your company because of their political affiliations and need to find new people to employee and train to replace them, you're also a bad business owner.

And, hell, any business that specializes in computer forensics but can't even keep it's domain registered and loses it to a car dealer just sounds like an awful outfit anyway.

I just can't imagine what it's like to live life so scared and angry all the time, but whatever.
2013-01-18 11:55:20 AM  
6 votes:
Nine employees and he's citing the ACA for increased costs?
Either he, or his accountant, is lying.
2013-01-18 11:52:50 AM  
6 votes:
He should have fired the accountant who told him Obamacare was going to cost his business money.
2013-01-18 11:52:32 AM  
6 votes:
After letting the two part-time contract workers go, Terry Lee Forensics has nine employees who work with local law enforcement and attorneys to retrieve digital data from encrypted computer hard drives. Terry Lee would not release the names of the two part-timers.

He said that in the past couple of years he has had to cut costs as his business has slowed. But he said his accountant recently told him that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, had raised his company's taxes and operating costs. Asked to detail those costs, Lee deferred to his accountant, who could not be reached for comment. Obamacare mandates that only businesses with more than 50 employees be required to insure full-time employees or face penalties.



Sounds like he needed to let two people go, and why not blame that damn n***** in the "White" House?

"Terry Lee Forensics"? Sounds like a hair salon.
2013-01-18 11:49:16 AM  
6 votes:
Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?
2013-01-18 11:46:10 AM  
6 votes:

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Perhaps.  Still an asshole.
2013-01-18 11:40:59 AM  
6 votes:
Easiest Lawsuit Ever.
2013-01-18 12:11:19 PM  
5 votes:
Small businesses in Utah are defined as less than 50 employees and are exempt from providing insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act. So, this guy's claim that "Obongocare" forced him to fire two employees doesn't hold up, since it wouldn't have cost him anything in coverage no matter who had won the election. I hope a civil case moves forward and he gets explain his real reasons for firing those guys. He doesn't seem smart enough to invent a good lie.
2013-01-18 12:08:58 PM  
5 votes:

spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"


You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.
2013-01-18 11:54:26 AM  
5 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The civil lawsuit that ensues is going to be full of lulz.  Just because politics is not a "protected class" doesn't mean it's immune to any/all legal action.


they might lose the case but...hell, they might as well take a shot at it.  if nothing else, it's a headache for the douchebag who fired 'em.  not to mention the fact that first thing douchbag's lawyer is gonna tell him is to STFU about politics while the lawsuit is grinding through the court system.  that alone might make it worth doing.
2013-01-18 11:54:18 AM  
5 votes:

stirfrybry: LOL@racecard


ah yes...now we enter the section of the thread where using terms that are obviously connected to race and ethnicity are not racist or bigoted.
2013-01-18 11:51:53 AM  
5 votes:
Have fun paying their unemployment benefits, asswipe.
2013-01-18 11:48:40 AM  
5 votes:
Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways? He's an embarrassment to his community.
2013-01-18 11:42:42 AM  
5 votes:
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.
gja
2013-01-18 11:40:44 AM  
5 votes:
lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
2013-01-18 12:01:21 PM  
4 votes:
Sadly, "at will" is a rich man's wet dream. They can toss out human beings like a used Kleenex and not have to worry about any lawsuits.

Looks like it's up to Anonymous to take care of this butthole employer situation.
2013-01-18 12:00:04 PM  
4 votes:

OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


ya, just because they cant be fired for political affiliation doesn't mean lawsuits wont commence, smart guy.
2013-01-18 11:53:08 AM  
4 votes:
This guy is bound for failure...

...which he'll blame on Obama.

He can't lose.
2013-01-18 11:52:21 AM  
4 votes:
The civil lawsuit that ensues is going to be full of lulz.  Just because politics is not a "protected class" doesn't mean it's immune to any/all legal action.
2013-01-18 11:51:40 AM  
4 votes:
The fool! By firing his employees without just cause, he's enabling them to go on undefinate unemployment and welfare. He's doing exactly by 0bungalowbob wants!
2013-01-18 11:49:25 AM  
4 votes:

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


Well, when your so consumed with hatred for a politician that you're willing to come across as a eight year old in the national media, I assume that's how.

I wonder if he cries into his smoothie at night over the election?
2013-01-18 01:10:36 PM  
3 votes:

gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)


See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.
gja
2013-01-18 12:55:25 PM  
3 votes:

ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?


No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and deepen the wounds. Not very smart, not very nice.
2013-01-18 12:13:27 PM  
3 votes:

BMFPitt: Did The Onion change its name recently?

The quotes are too crazy to be real.


It is from Utah. I believe it. Not that Mississippi and most of Louisiana aren't as bad. You wouldn't believe some of the Facebook posts from my crazy cousin who lives in Mississippi but Utah and some other bits of the desert S.W. could teach the old South a thing or two about "conservative" craziness.

/Saw a billboard about Obama being the Antichrist on my way to Baton Rouge last Wednesday, though...
//Need to move somewhere sane.
2013-01-18 12:02:03 PM  
3 votes:

You know what the best part of this is? This owner is now going to be unable to hire anyone who's not a conservative idiot throwback neanderthal. That will mean erosion of his bottom line, which will in turn mean that he will have to close down his little homoerotic smoothie shop. And the absolute best part is:


OBAMA STILL WON THE ELECTION AND THERES NOT A GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
LOL ROFLMAO U SUKC N00B

2013-01-18 11:59:30 AM  
3 votes:
So people now understand he's an asshole and a retard. I'm sure they're rushing to eat at his establishment as we speak.

and when he goes under, that will also be Obongo's fault. Then he'll file bankruptcy and the taxpayers will foot his bill (again!).

/as has already been pointed out, I doubt he has 50 employees and as such, is exempt from many Obongocare provisions. Oh, and he gets special tax credits, too! Damn Fartbongo!
2013-01-18 11:54:58 AM  
3 votes:

Emrick: He should have fired the accountant who told him Obamacare was going to cost his business money.


His accountant is making a quick buck using his client's derangement as a cover.
2013-01-18 11:54:04 AM  
3 votes:
They might not be able to sue based upon protected class but they could sue for wrongful termination. Political affiliation does not constitute poor work performance nor does it guarantee the employer carteblanche for removal. They may have trouble if they are in a "right to work/fire" state, but there is certainly footholds for legal action with this.
2013-01-18 11:51:17 AM  
3 votes:

Dimensio: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.


if I were a small business owner, that's a risk I wouldn't take.  i'd keep national politics out of my store.  that shiat can backfire on you REAL fast.
2013-01-18 11:50:00 AM  
3 votes:
I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business. Considering again that it's in Utah, it will probably increase his business and he will be forced to hire more employees to keep up.
2013-01-18 11:49:44 AM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.
2013-01-18 11:49:33 AM  
3 votes:
And he'll be the first one to cry foul if the Obama supporters stop shopping there.
2013-01-18 11:46:58 AM  
3 votes:
I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.
2013-01-18 11:43:14 AM  
3 votes:
...I wouldn't get a smoothie anywhere with a name that close to "venereal".
2013-01-18 01:17:47 PM  
2 votes:
If the law is with you, pound the law. If equity is with you, pound equity.--Old legal maxim

Although US law has limited grounds for basic political, civil and economic rights, unlike the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which explicitly states that the rights and freedoms mentioned therein are not complete and all-inclusive and thus leaves the question of rights and freedoms for other classes, groups, and categories opened-ended, there is more than law in play here.

Americans are guaranteed freedom of speech, freedom of association, and many other freedoms, including the right to vote (admittedly freedoms and rights often violated throughout US history).

Firing somebody because of their political opinions or even actions (such as voting, campaigning, running for office) may not be a violation of their explicitly-named and legislated rights and freedoms, but it is an assault on their rights and freedoms nonetheless, and therefore a tort as well as unAmerican, and contratry to the intent and meaning of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, various Amendments to the Constitution and many other laws.

In short, they have excellent grounds to litigate against discrimination which violates their rights as citizens, even though those rights are not part of those designated-identity group rights and freedoms.

After all, the rights of the citizen are prior to and fundamental to the guarantees of the rights of various groups (religious, ethnic, national, demographic, etc.). These rights and freedoms are shared by all and based deeply in the ethics, morals, religion, political theory and values of the American state and society. So fundamental are they, that there was and is no need to declare them as group-identity rights. They are not rights guaranteed to groups that have proven victims of discrimination and wrongs--they are the basic rights and freedoms of the citizen and the Rights of Man.

I suggest taking some of these cases of quasi-fascistic partisan persecution to not only US courts but to international coursts where the rights of humanity are protected.

Employers do not have the right to dictate the political opinions or actions of citizens. In Canada, for example, even Government employees have the right to vote (and employers must give them time off without penalty or reduction in pay if they have to vote during working hours), the right to participate in political activities (such as campaigning for a candidate or even taking leave to be a candidate) and so forth.

I do not know if American employees have the same explicit rights and freedoms as Canadian employees, but I think they should.

This guy is obviously one of those ultra-partisan reactionaries who object to the existence of their opponents, not merely their policies and values. Like the Coors beer company, who were found guilty of discrimination not only against Democrats and liberals, but also women, non-whites, non-Christians, and non-conservatives generally, this guy could be facing a heap of hurt if he persists in discriminating against the free exercise of political rights and freedoms that don't always go his way.

He's the type of "republican" who makes me wonder if the ancient Greek democracy of Athens was not entirely justified to deny political office and power to the oligarchs that were over-turned when the city-state became a genuine direct democracy (for some time).

At the very least, corporations should not have the right to usurp and overturn the will of the sovereign people under the pretext of being "legal persons", and billionaires should not be allowed to vote with their dollars and their lobbies and propaganda organs disguised as "think tanks" and their private armies of seditious PR flac-mongers and liars.

A majority of the voters elected Obama. A majority of voters elected the Senate. I'm not sure the House Republicans was elected by a majority--maybe they were elected by the right-wing 47%ers--the system has been skewed conservative for a long time, since the days of the 6/10ths citizen and the direct election of the Presidents and Governors by legislative bodies rather than the people, all of which were reactionary rules designed to favour the upper classes and suppress the 99%.

It's clear that the values of liberal democracy are far from universal, even in America and such countries, which created them, but the majority still prize democracy, real freedom, and a state that protects its citizens, their dependants and other residents.
2013-01-18 12:59:11 PM  
2 votes:

gja: ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?

No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and deepen the wounds. ...


Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.
2013-01-18 12:45:00 PM  
2 votes:

H31N0US: Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.


If they had the option of working for someone besides this asshole, they would have been doing that already.
2013-01-18 12:27:20 PM  
2 votes:

kombat_unit: tricycleracer: This guy is bound for failure...

...which he'll blame on Obama.

He can't lose.

It's cool, he didn't build his business.


Apologies in advance if you were being sarcastic (Poe's Law)

Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives? Yes, I'm sure that this boot strappy business owner built the highways and bridges for customers to come to his store; educated his workers from grades K-12 so they could interact with customers and do tasks proficiently; and invented the Internet to allow for easy advertising and communication.

Why the fark does everything have to be reduced to bumper sticker slogans for Republicans? Here's the original quote some folks lack the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me - because they want to give something back. They know they didn't - look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something - there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President - because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together."
2013-01-18 12:23:01 PM  
2 votes:

James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.


Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)
2013-01-18 12:11:54 PM  
2 votes:

stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.


If he just knew, why did he hire them in the first place?
2013-01-18 12:10:37 PM  
2 votes:
Once again, the true value of our right to free speech is that it allows idiots to identify themselves.
2013-01-18 12:10:20 PM  
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.


Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.
2013-01-18 12:06:28 PM  
2 votes:

NutWrench: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I think that sums up the article nicely.

"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

And this, too.


Based on the mans use of language he fired these people for supporting a black person. Imagine a Klansman beating a white man for dating a black woman. It's still a discriminatory act.
gja
2013-01-18 12:03:22 PM  
2 votes:

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


And if you are naive enough to think there will NOT be lawsuits I urge you to get out more.
There are literally scores of lawyers who just LOVE this type of shiat because it will get their names/faces in the media.

/oh, and I don't like Obama, but this dude is an asshat of galactic proportions
2013-01-18 12:01:39 PM  
2 votes:

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


Pfft, like a real conservative would "teach" at a "college".
2013-01-18 11:59:08 AM  
2 votes:
Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?
2013-01-18 11:57:29 AM  
2 votes:
Unfortunately, this business owner is well within his rights to fire these people solely because of their political affiliation, but damn if that's not one of the most immoral things I've ever seen.
2013-01-18 11:54:47 AM  
2 votes:

Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.


His business is failing. There is no way in hell he had to fire two people because of Obamacare. But the business can't be failing because he's an idiot, you see. So the blame must go somewhere.
2013-01-18 11:53:32 AM  
2 votes:
I'm curious as to how he knew they were Obama supporters. Political affiliation may not be protected, but I'm pretty sure you can't force anyone to tell you how they voted.
2013-01-18 11:53:27 AM  
2 votes:
If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?
2013-01-18 11:51:43 AM  
2 votes:
The Australian Constitution guarantees "freedom of political expression" - should we borrow an amendment?
2013-01-18 11:51:32 AM  
2 votes:
Maybe the terminated employees will exercise their second amendment rights?
2013-01-18 11:50:50 AM  
2 votes:

Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.


Even so, some enterprising lawyer will gladly pick up their case as they attempt a wrongful termination suit.
2013-01-18 11:50:42 AM  
2 votes:
CSB: I just got a Vitamix 2500.

Its the greatest machine in the history of the kitchen.
2013-01-18 11:47:40 AM  
2 votes:
It seems pretty unfair, but the article specifically seems to mention that firing based on political affiliation is legal. Or am I misunderstanding?
2013-01-18 11:47:29 AM  
2 votes:
Christ what an asshole
2013-01-18 11:46:08 AM  
2 votes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Race - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Color - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Religion - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

National origin - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Age (40 and over) - Federal: Age Discrimination in Employment
Act of 1967
Sex - Federal: Equal Pay Act of 1963 & Civil Rights Act of 1964

Familial status - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII (Housing, cannot discriminate for having children, exception for senior housing)

Disability status - Federal: Vocational Rehabilitation and Other Rehabilitation Services of 1973 & Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

Veteran status - Federal Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974
Genetic information - Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act
2013-01-18 11:46:06 AM  
2 votes:
Wow seems like a great guy to work for.
2013-01-18 04:07:25 PM  
1 vote:

tenpoundsofcheese: pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.

No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.


Just so 10lbfrommage gets another $1 for inspiring a reply:

US Constitution Article 2 Section 2 (clause 2)

"He shall have Power,...by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint...all other Officers of the United States"

Any law that tried to restrict, such as 'must keep previous occupants except with cause' who he could appoint would be unconstitutional.

So go ahead. Put on your 'successful troll is successful' shirt
2013-01-18 03:25:40 PM  
1 vote:
This asshole runs a company that does computer forensic investigations. How fair a shake do you think "liberals" get in the course of him doing his job? Seems like he just opened a big door leading to questions about his impartiality, I'm sure opposing attorneys will waste no time in making hay of this.
2013-01-18 03:23:59 PM  
1 vote:

Could get interesting if evidence/testemony appeared that they were fired for VOTING for Obama.

Imagine a conversation like this:

Accountant: "We could make some more money if we let some people go"
Owner: How about those two guy who said the voted for Obama. I want to punish them for that
Accountant: Works for me!
Owner: lets tell everyone that's why we're doing it too!


18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;


/or am I just trolling the "there is no Constitutional right to vote!" people?
2013-01-18 03:22:23 PM  
1 vote:

ItchyBrother: Didn't Romney start out with a Kool-Aid Stand?


In fact, he did!

If by "Kool-Aid" you mean "really big", and by "stand" you mean "trust fund."
2013-01-18 03:14:52 PM  
1 vote:

Aigoo: Utah (where this occurred) is an at-will employment state.


Good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all. It's lovely, huh? Exactly like that where I live. And we're called a "Right to Work" state! Which basically means you aren't forced to join a union to get a job. But as to actually having a right to work, that's a farkin' joke. In truth it's not funny whatsoever if you find yourself on the receiving end.

My brother's wife was a teacher for nearly 20 years with great performance reviews and a 6yr degree. A new pricipal came to the school and decided he didn't like her. So he fired her, just before Christmas. There is no union, no one to say the termination was wrongful, so she had no recourse.  Plus, now she's branded with a scarlet letter and no other school will touch her.

Her 20yr career as a teacher is done, so she's going back to school to be a nurse.
2013-01-18 03:09:09 PM  
1 vote:

theorellior: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: THANKS, taxpayers!

As a fellow American citizen, I would prefer that your basic human needs were supplied for rather than you getting shoved out on the street to fend for yourself. However, given your posting record, this does indicate you don't have the proof of your convictions and would prefer to be a "leech" rather than be "bootstrappy". So noted.


LOL! You sound bitter and selfish.

Actually, I would much rather be working. I, in fact, went on an interview yesterday. That's a lot harder than it sounds, because I normally don't have quick access to a shower and the monkey suit. One of the agencies (none of whom know I'm living in a camper shell) called at 9:30am and said they had an "out of the blue" rush job, and could they set up an 11am for me. I deferred to Noon and then drove like a maniac to 24 Hr Fitness, showered, shaved, then drove like a maniac to the Public Storage facility where all our stuff (including my suits, ties and dress shirts) are. Got changed in 7 minutes then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways in 20 minutes to arrive 3 minutes late. Pretty good interview, and the job will last for 6 to 8 weeks at $20 per hour (they would be paying the agency maybe $40 per hour. That's annualized at $83K. A few years ago that job would have been at the $120K-$130K level.

It's a Corporate Controller slot. The current Controller gave one week's notice. Reading between the lines during the interview I think the company is "on the ropes" and the Controller (who would know) is getting out while the getting is good.

Still, hope I get it. There were 3 other people cooling their heels in the lobby, and someone else arrived just as I was leaving. I was the only old fat white guy. The rest were various combos of Black, Hispanic, Asian, young, clotheshorse (i.e.: all packaging little content). Even some of the people at the agencies tell me that I'm at a disadvantage due to age, incorrect packaging, and ethnic profile. And with 6 or 8 people minimum applying for each position it's sometimes tough.

As for my posting record, my convictions are pretty much on display. I challenge you to find one single post of mine, anywhere, that criticizes the concept of a basic safety net. But I find it.... interesting (and amusing) to get reactions like yours when someone actually admits to long term "mooching" off the public tit. Personally, I have no problem with my doing so; I worked like a dog in middle and senior management for 40 years and paid a shiat-load of taxes to help support that safety net. Now it is my turn, and reactions from libtards like you are simply Golden. Again, thanks for your money.
2013-01-18 03:05:38 PM  
1 vote:

verbaltoxin: The left in the United States celebrates a victory when they stop a beaver dam from being drained and graded over. That's how low the bar has fallen for the left here. So for people crowing about "DEM LIBZ!!" you f*cking won, alright? You won 30 years ago. This is the price you pay for it. You get arm wrestling matches over the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff scares and crisis after crisis bringing governing to a halt. F*cking own it. It's yours. Pay up.


You have to understand that being the "victim" or "the oppressed minority" is fundamental to the right-wind mythology. For a start, the very word "conservative" comes from the idea that the past was better than the present, and the future is likely to be worse, so they tend to see history as a downward slide into debauchery, which in turn implies that they're on the losing side but fighting heroically to turn things around. But you also see it in their tendency to lump everything they don't agree with into a single monolithic group. That's why they imagine that Islamic fundamentalists and atheists are one the same, for example, or at least working together. How many times have your heard conservatives claim that liberals attack Christianity exclusively and give Islam a free pass? You also see this with the whole socialism = communism = fascism thing as well. Or conflating democracy with capitalism. On some basic level, everything that isn't "us" is "them," and no real effort is made to see how two different "thems" aren't really the same at all. But when you think that way, then your group IS a minority on some scale.

A third sign of it is how bitter they get about "special rights" for minorities such as heterosexuals, "affirmative action" and "reverse discrimination" and "men's rights." Many of them genuinely seem to think that non-whites, non-heterosexuals, and women want, or even already have, some special status ABOVE them.

And pundits like Limbaugh and conservative outlets like Fox News both feed on this and perpetuate it by pushing stories which cast conservatives as an oppressed minority. It really doesn't matter how slanted or even factually incorrect the stories are, the kind of people who watch Fox News and listen to Limbaugh just eat it up.
2013-01-18 02:55:36 PM  
1 vote:

Forbidden Doughnut: Chummer45: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

There's a lot of derp on the far left as well. If you go far enough, the two extremes start looking like each other..


And again, when you really start to look at them, you will start to realize that one of those extremes is much larger, much more prone to violent, explosive episodes, much more likely to use hyperbolic rhetoric and outright lies and poses a far greater threat to the future peace, prosperity and general cohesion of this country. I'll leave it to you to figure out which one that is.
2013-01-18 02:43:38 PM  
1 vote:

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.
2013-01-18 02:41:19 PM  
1 vote:

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


You are worked up over an enemy your ilk have imagined.

The "gimme gimmes" aren't getting a lavish lifestyle on government dollar. People who milk the system make up SO LITTLE of the whole welfare receiving population that it is cheaper to just pay them than investigate.

Think about what that means. It means you are wrong. It means that this vast conspiracy of takers just doesn't exist.
2013-01-18 02:16:39 PM  
1 vote:

skullkrusher: praxcelis: skullkrusher: praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.

that isn't remotely what he said, is it?

This isn't going to be one of those threads where we take a commonly-used phrase like "station in life" and spend all afternoon arguing abscure usages of those words, rather than accepting the commonly-used context? Every time I hear that phrase used it is in the context of "knowing one's place". gja's comment was followed by "Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.", which indicates an awareness of that commonly-used context.

What do you think was meant?

he is talking about living in one's means. Living according to one's position on the socioeconomic ladder. Nothing about "remembering one's place" aside from as it pertains to personal finances. "Remembering one's place" is far more loaded than "station in life" - it even has a connotation that one should show deference to his or her "betters".
I did not get anything of that sort from his post. Nor did I see the cognitive dissonance.


I'm willing to give on the definition--it's something I've heard in conversation all-too-often associated with that more-loaded connotation, but that may just be a function of the more conservative-leaning (read: scary) sorts I have in my friends-and-family list. :P We'll just have to disagree on whose context-senses are going off more.

The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.
2013-01-18 02:03:39 PM  
1 vote:

tenpoundsofcheese: pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.

No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.



What's blatantly wrong and stupid is pretending that a Presidential Election winner is somehow violating discrimination laws when his winning team takes over. It's kind of the POINT of politics and elections.

Jesus farking christ.
2013-01-18 01:57:19 PM  
1 vote:

StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.



This. And it has been solidly trending this way for years. The extreme elements have taken over the GOP and now represent the party in every way that matters. That is the core difference between the makeup of the "two sides" now, and the reason one side DOES go off the deep end more than the other.

And the more that happens, the more the relative "middle" gets shifted toward them out of some sense of compromise. Politically, it should work. But they're so farking cartoonishly stupid about it now they keep losing elections.

How dumb do you have to be to make RAPE excuses part of your narrative in an election year, just because you want to rally your base around another divisive topic (abortion)?
2013-01-18 01:40:59 PM  
1 vote:
This guy is a tool. Id like to think that if I ever ran a business I would be smart enough to keep my religion and politics out of it. As long as their money was green and they paid on time I wouldnt give two shiats. We were having this problem with the bible thumper I work with she kept on asking us about what religion we were, what church we went to etc. Pretty much everyone got sick of it then she told us that we were "mocking" her and her religion. I kindly pointed out this is the workplace and she should keep her personal problems,politics and religion at the door and worry about her work more. Sometimes I still wish I worked with the wiccan guy. He was a theology major and took great delight in verbally flaying people like her.
2013-01-18 01:39:29 PM  
1 vote:

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


I'm pretty sure that Bob Gates got to keep his job, actually.
2013-01-18 01:30:34 PM  
1 vote:

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.


Answers with snark. Then goes on to complain about being snarked at. The knife cuts both ways.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.


So you complain about civility, then form an argument of gross generalizations and strawmen. Take note: your first sentence, "STOP, just STOP," shows you have interest only in the other party patiently listening, while you use whatever tone you want. That is not civility. That is rote condescension and entitlement.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.

"Disruptive." Show your work. Where are these disruptive liberals, exactly? And how do I know disruptive doesn't just mean, "Challenging my sense of privilege?"

Pro tip: you're not as far from the far right as you think you are.
2013-01-18 01:25:14 PM  
1 vote:
Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?
2013-01-18 01:23:36 PM  
1 vote:

gja: "The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


"This clump we are spinning on is finite" is in fact the major point that the extremist left tree-hugging greenies have been trying to make.
2013-01-18 01:17:05 PM  
1 vote:

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?


"obongo" is 5/6s "bongo".
Get it now?
2013-01-18 01:14:48 PM  
1 vote:

stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard


This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?
2013-01-18 01:03:33 PM  
1 vote:

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


It's not that colleges DONT hire conservative professors, it's just that real scientists and academics are incredibly unlikely to BE conservative.


http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics- a nd-religion/
2013-01-18 12:53:32 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: Dimensio: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.

if I were a small business owner, that's a risk I wouldn't take.  i'd keep national politics out of my store.  that shiat can backfire on you REAL fast.


CSB: My ex-father-in-law was a Foxnews-quoting-Republican, operating a small business in a very, very blue state. He drags politics into his business constantly. During the 2004 election he covered his 8' store logo with a special ordered "Bush/Cheney" sign. Needless to say, he does very well at alienating his customers.
What killed me was listening to my ex-wife whine about how her fathers business has been losing money every year since he bought it. Her whole family couldn't understand it.
2013-01-18 12:52:59 PM  
1 vote:

Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?


Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.
2013-01-18 12:50:38 PM  
1 vote:
Sounds like he picked the low hanging fruit at his business to cut costs his accountant told him to mitigate, after already having declining business. The two people he fired were part time contractors, so it stands to question what, if any, healthcare benefits he would've provided to them in the first place, but I digress. The point is he's a dick.
2013-01-18 12:49:54 PM  
1 vote:
This guy's just admitting to what I know for a fact goes on behind the scenes a lot anyway.
2013-01-18 12:46:13 PM  
1 vote:
He runs a forensics lab that the police there use... I doubt his business will suffer an iota. Sadly.

That said... I REALLY question the quality of the scientific work produced by an outfit led by that idiot. For instance:
"They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.
...and
"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

...and the fact that Obamacare has squat to do with his business unless he hires 43 more employees to add to the 7 he has left - a growth of his company by more than 5 times its current size! So he doesn't know for sure he fired Obama supporters but just who in his gut he thought were Obama supporters, he fired people without even knowing for certain he wasn't commiting an illegal act and all because he wrongly believes Obamacare will apply to his business. Oh yeah, and he's racist too.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY the kind of guy I want the police sendig my forensic evidence off to. I'm so sure we can expect impartial, unbiased, professionally handled scientific work products to come from his business.

/sarcasm off
Hmmmnn.... Come to think of it, that's probably exactly what why the police like to use him...
2013-01-18 12:43:43 PM  
1 vote:
So... 2 contract employees were let go by a guy that has a business small enough to be exempt from the mandatory provisions. He admits that business had slowed, and being a computer forensics company means either crimes requiring his services have been in decline (good for public, bad for his business) or his company sucks ass at what they do enough to where local law enforcement is going to other service providers (bad for everyone).

I am not disappointed in his choice to let those 2 contractors go, that is his prerogative. I am disappointed that someone in the press felt that this was enough of a news worthy story to print.
2013-01-18 12:42:07 PM  
1 vote:
This guy doesn't even have a website. (Terrylee.com redirects to a honda dealer) If he fired two employees, then he must have negative two employees now. This isn't even worth getting worked up over.
2013-01-18 12:35:07 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Maybe the terminated employees will exercise their second amendment rights?


The guy's an asshat and deserves a fine and/or to see his business suffer, but shooting him seems a little harsh.

Now, if was lost so much business and/or got hit with a fine so bad that he had to go on unemployment or welfare, that would be some lovely ironic justice.
2013-01-18 12:30:10 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles.


Yeah, you're right. spentmiles is funnier.

madgonad: And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)


Both of them pale in comparison to StopArrestingMe.
2013-01-18 12:26:37 PM  
1 vote:

solitary: The Australian Constitution guarantees "freedom of political expression" - should we borrow an amendment?

2013-01-18 12:23:47 PM  
1 vote:

Red_Fox: StrangeQ: WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.

You have got to be wrong about that. That or life's so much more unfair in the USA than I ever imagined.

He posted online that he chose them because they supported Obama. That's GOT to be a lawsuit...it is discrimination based on political leanings.


He can fire them for whatever reason he wants. But unless it was for something truly justifiable (constantly being late for shifts, harassing management or other workers, creating an unsafe or unsanitary work environment, ect) they can claim unemployment afterwards. Since in this case it is clear he is just an ignorant, asshole redneck, there is no way he will be able to fight their unemployment claims. When his unemployment insurance providers learn that he is just firing people because he is an ignorant, partisan hack and thus causing them to shell out money, they could possibly decide to raise his rates. They wouldn't have to, but he seems like he's made himself into too good a target not to. So yeah, stupid redneck will hopefully be reaping exactly what he has sewn. Of course, then he'll probably blame that on "obongo" too, because of course, nothing is ever a conservative's fault.
2013-01-18 12:20:55 PM  
1 vote:
I wonder what's next in this butthole's sage of DoucheBaggery?

"I went out to the park today and threw rocks at liberal babies. Then I went over to some liberal's house and set it on fire. I knew it was a stinking liberal house because of the lack of flags and crying eagles in the front yard like EVERY god-fearing real American™ has. Let Obongo's commie fire department worry about it."
2013-01-18 12:19:13 PM  
1 vote:
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes,"
What a nice christian. I hope at other christian read what he has done and shun him. For the rest of his life.
He is clearly doing the work of stan.
2013-01-18 12:15:53 PM  
1 vote:

theorellior: Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


Um, The contracting part?

youkeepusingthat word.jpeg
2013-01-18 12:15:17 PM  
1 vote:
Eh, FTA it just sounds like he fired two employees for other reasons and then decided to troll for from free advertising
2013-01-18 12:15:08 PM  
1 vote:

stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.


I'm surprised someone like this hired the only two black people in Utah in the first place.
2013-01-18 12:15:07 PM  
1 vote:

Headso: Carth: I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?

Yeah firing them is probably nothing but good publicity there.


That is what I was thinking. Looking into it a bit more Vernal Utah is in Uintah County which is the reddest county in the state. Romney won the county with 90% and Obama got 962 votes.

This kind of attention is a cheap advertising campaign in that area.
2013-01-18 12:14:08 PM  
1 vote:

StrangeQ: WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.


You have got to be wrong about that. That or life's so much more unfair in the USA than I ever imagined.

He posted online that he chose them because they supported Obama. That's GOT to be a lawsuit...it is discrimination based on political leanings.
2013-01-18 12:13:07 PM  
1 vote:

edmo: I thought consuming smoothies was a liberal thing to do.


So is drinking tea, but look at the way the rightards tossed their chimpsh*t all over it.
2013-01-18 12:09:50 PM  
1 vote:
Some places charge less for being female.
Some places give discounts if you show a tattoo.
Some places cut you a break if you're a student, or wear a certain team jersey, or have a visible piercing.
I'm liberal, but I just see it as a discount for conservative thinking people. Sadly, there's no way to really prove it, and I'd just claim to be conservative for the discount (or lack of upcharge, same thing in essence).

Where he farked up was the firing people. That's a no-no.
2013-01-18 12:08:05 PM  
1 vote:
I bet this is the kind of guy that would put chopped bugs instead of fruit into his smoothies and would scream like a stabbed pig about "DAMN OBONGO REGULATIONS!!!" when the health department showed up and wrote a citation.
2013-01-18 12:07:30 PM  
1 vote:
I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?
2013-01-18 12:07:25 PM  
1 vote:

OnlyM3: FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


does federal law prevent people who have been fired for political affiliation from suing?
2013-01-18 12:07:14 PM  
1 vote:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

This. It appears that most Farkers have not RTFA.

Political affiliation is a protected trait only if you are a government employee.

CSB:

Knew an old guy at the Tustin post office with 50 years service. (he refused to retire and get his pension since his ex-wife would get part of it). Now this guy WAS a gold-plated stereotype for the uber-conservative know-nothing meme. Made Ronald Reagan seem like a squishy liberal. He would get into farking political arguments with customers, and when talking with like-minded people would loudly complain about the mindlessness of liberals. USPS management couldn't touch him.

/CSB


Should have asked him why he worked for a socialist organization like the US Postal Service. Surely a rugged, bootstrappy guy like him could have found better work in the private sector? No? Well, then he was just a big-government parasite--no better than a liberal! That would have been a fun conversation.
2013-01-18 12:01:43 PM  
1 vote:
Smoothie shop was here:
i212.photobucket.com

Employer in the article is here:
i212.photobucket.com
2013-01-18 11:58:43 AM  
1 vote:

Illiterate liberal 1

gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.


FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"
2013-01-18 11:58:39 AM  
1 vote:
Aww how cute someone is using the term obongo unironically.
2013-01-18 11:58:09 AM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


deanis: Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways? He's an embarrassment to his community.


This happened in Utah, which IIRC is one of the most Republican states in the country. If anything, this might even spur his business, since that's the crazy world in which we live.
2013-01-18 11:57:49 AM  
1 vote:

give me doughnuts: Nine employees and he's citing the ACA for increased costs?
Either he, or his accountant, is lying.


this is what I was thinking. Isn't the threshold for having to provide health insurance in some form, 50 employees? What the hell is he talking about?
2013-01-18 11:56:28 AM  
1 vote:
I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed titties. We were having sex when the perfect metaphor for the experience occurred to me.

Not missing the rhythm of a single pump, I shifted it back and drove it into her asshole. It was like I'd whipped a sleeping dog with a belt - WWWOOOEEEEHHHEEEEEE!

I bust out laughing, lost my hard on, and went back to work, while she laid there and cried about it.

Bottom line, this smoothie shop guy doesn't deserve to own a business if he's going to let politics and petty social issues affect his bottom line. Go run for office. Go be a politico-blogger-dickthong. Go to a Gabby Giffords speech. Just don't waste prime sales space with your nonsense attitudes.
2013-01-18 11:56:01 AM  
1 vote:
Reading comprehension fail. Still, owner in story adds to the concrete evidence that conservatives are spiteful dicks. Enjoy your lawsuit dumbass.
2013-01-18 11:55:59 AM  
1 vote:
Buckle up, Terry Lee. Your life is never going to be the same.
2013-01-18 11:55:54 AM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


As a bonus he also gets to learn the joys of the internet the hard way.
2013-01-18 11:54:40 AM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


I am most surprised by the lack of the number 0 as a substitute for the letter 'O'.


I'm with you on that. It's actually a little insane* that someone actually uses that in an earnest attempt to insult the President.

*read: stupid and racist
2013-01-18 11:54:17 AM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


This. It appears that most Farkers have not RTFA.

Political affiliation is a protected trait only if you are a government employee.

CSB:

Knew an old guy at the Tustin post office with 50 years service. (he refused to retire and get his pension since his ex-wife would get part of it). Now this guy WAS a gold-plated stereotype for the uber-conservative know-nothing meme. Made Ronald Reagan seem like a squishy liberal. He would get into farking political arguments with customers, and when talking with like-minded people would loudly complain about the mindlessness of liberals. USPS management couldn't touch him.

/CSB
2013-01-18 11:53:37 AM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


That would not even slow an attorney down.
2013-01-18 11:53:32 AM  
1 vote:
The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!
2013-01-18 11:53:10 AM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.


True dat.
2013-01-18 11:52:57 AM  
1 vote:
Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...
2013-01-18 11:52:45 AM  
1 vote:
Why do you hate democracy Smoothie Man?
2013-01-18 11:52:32 AM  
1 vote:

stirfrybry: LOL@racecard


Do you speak English or just teenager?
2013-01-18 11:51:46 AM  
1 vote:
It was obvious something like this was going to happen.

Got one of those storage center places near here, and the sign out front has said "SCREWED NOW" ever since Obama got re-elected. Choosing a side with your business during the election season is one thing, but to keep it up for the foreseeable future just pushes people away from your business. I mean Texas might be conservative central, but wouldnt this shtick get old after a while?
2013-01-18 11:51:38 AM  
1 vote:
Well, since Romney is a citizen of the Cayman Islands and Obama is a Christian, who else could they support?

//does that work both directions?
2013-01-18 11:51:29 AM  
1 vote:
I'm now going to move to Florida and start hiring republican retirees, only to fire them every few months while shouting "RERPUBLICUN"
2013-01-18 11:50:26 AM  
1 vote:

bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.


LOL@racecard
2013-01-18 11:49:12 AM  
1 vote:
I predict much calm and rational political debate about Obamacare, Right-to-work, and non-performance related employment termination in this thread.
2013-01-18 11:48:53 AM  
1 vote:
That was a
ecodiscountstore.com
idea
2013-01-18 11:47:15 AM  
1 vote:

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


Your political party is not a protected group under EOC
2013-01-18 11:47:13 AM  
1 vote:

Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.


Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.
2013-01-18 11:42:56 AM  
1 vote:
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I think that sums up the article nicely.

"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

And this, too.
 
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